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crameur · 10-08-2007, 01:13 AM

Hi , I'm looking To get some Coilovers To put on my s13 , I would like to have feedback of many kind of Coilovers, I was looking at Tanabe , Stance , Maybe Apexi n1 !! Budget Of 1500 $$ , Most Daily Drive Use , A Little Bit Of Track Use , I'm looking For The Most Confortable And The Most Streetable Coilovers For My S13 !!Confort is Imporant for me!!! Thanks a lot !!!!

TonKpilS14 · 10-08-2007, 01:18 AM

there is a thread floating somewhere around here on what r the best coilovers for the price. it shows about prolly 20sets total.

search it.

GSXRJJordan · 10-08-2007, 02:01 AM

Why do you want coilovers? For performance, for lowering, for bragging rights?

The problem with coilovers is that they're designed for performance; setting your ride height, keeping your pitch and roll in check, and keeping those tires attached to the ground, in that order.

What makes them uncomfortable is their valving: cheap coilovers don't have that much adjustment in compression and rebound stiffness. My Tanabe Sevens do, as do most of the other top tier coils, but they're out of your price range.

Out of personal experience, I'd say you should get RSR Race Springs and Koni Yellows or Tokico adjustables. It'll give you a lot of performance, a decently comfortable ride, great for the canyons - just not as good for drifting.

Or you can do what the rest of us do: man up, get what performs well in your budget, and toughen up those kidneys.

*AceInHole* · 10-08-2007, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSXRJJordan

Out of personal experience, I'd say you should get RSR Race Springs and Koni Yellows or Tokico adjustables. It'll give you a lot of performance, a decently comfortable ride, great for the canyons - just not as good for drifting.

You should probably clarify that Koni's + springs wouldn't be good for drifting because they'll help your car grip. It seems for drifting people like to run solid beams instead of springs/ shocks, probably because they like a lack of traction.

Good dampers = not harsh = somewhat comfortable, regardless of the springrate.

GSXRJJordan · 10-08-2007, 12:49 PM

^^^ lol Ace you're so anti-drift, it's cute

He's right. By "give you a lot of performance" I didn't mean "make you drift". I meant your suspension will be close to proper, with tons of grip.

If you turn the Konis or Tokicos all the way to stiff, they'll work alright for drifting, but transitions will be tough. A sporty/comfy ride with em set in the middle though.

DP_Michelle G · 10-08-2007, 01:35 PM

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=154534

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=157870

Wiisass · 10-08-2007, 01:44 PM

Good dampers will work well for everything. The ones I valved for my brother's supra do awesome both on the road course and for drifting. But they're valved correctly.

So the car is comfortable to drive on the street, especially considering the high sprung natural frequencies and stiff spring rates, it works awesome on the road course and can drift pretty well. For drifting, transitions are no problem, I think it takes them smoother than a lot of the other cars I've driven. Meaning that it's not too fast which would indicate too much rebound, but it's a lot smoother. Minimal overshoot, quicker settling time, so the car does what you want. And the compression curve is nice, so bumps and high frequency inputs are properly taken care of and not transfered into the chassis. So during a drift the car is very stable despite the type of road surface.

So it can be done and it's not that hard, you just aren't going to find it in any of the coilovers that get pushed on here or talked about like they're actually good.

I think people are using overly stiff dampers to make it easier to drift. But they're probably hurting the overall performance of the car for other parts of the course. Dampers too stiff in rebound for the rear can make it real easy to enter a fast turn, you can just let off the throttle, steer in and the back will start to step out. But it will also make the car a little harder to control for other sections of the course. For example, if you're coming in fast to a tight turn and you have all that rebound back there, you aren't going to be able to take the tight section as fast as someone with good dampers because you will have to fight the car to keep the rear where you want it. But I don't know, maybe it's just me and the fact I like good dampers.

For the original poster, you're going to compromise ride quality unless you spend about double what you want to spend or you wait until my setup is done, which should be soon. I'm hoping to have it ready to test at the end of the month.

aznpoopy · 10-08-2007, 02:12 PM

in that price range
from my personal experience on jersey roads, which are fairly terrible

nismo r-tune by far
tein flex 2nd

i have no idea what the shocks are doing, but they are firm without being harsh or bouncy.

crameur · 10-08-2007, 04:07 PM

Ok , I want the car to Still Confortable With a Lot Of Grip !!!! I'm Not Drifting , Just Doing Donuts :P , So A Good Shock/ Spring Will do the job ????Wich One Are Good ??

***FaLKoN240*** · 10-08-2007, 04:50 PM

What is up with the random cap locks?

*AceInHole* · 10-09-2007, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSXRJJordan

^^^ lol Ace you're so anti-drift, it's cute

I'm not anti-drift by any means. It simply seems as though people more inclined towards drifting will be more apt to say the car "feels" better with it set in a manner that has it "skip" rather than "dig in".

My point was more or less that you made a statement that seemed as though coilovers were more performance oriented, and that performance comes at the cost of ride quality, which is not necessarily true beyond a single specific application.

Aoshi112 · 10-09-2007, 05:43 PM

Wiiass i was going to PM you about the project you started awhile ago. I can't wait to see the results!

crameur · 10-10-2007, 09:15 PM

other suggestions ?

water · 10-11-2007, 06:56 AM

Go with Tein Flexes. They were developed for your exact needs.

crameur · 10-11-2007, 03:31 PM

Tein Flexes , Someone have Feedback of those ???

*Sonic Motor* · 10-11-2007, 03:39 PM

must be the 1 millionth thread about the same topic...its like reruns on TV sigh..

DP_Michelle G · 10-11-2007, 04:23 PM

flexes are the same as the bc racing BR coilovers they both ride the same to me atleast and there only 900 bucks compared to the tein's price.

everyone has already told you the ones that are out there So which ones have you chosen yet?

if not this thread should be locked for being pointless.

*ManoNegra* · 10-11-2007, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wiisass

For the original poster, you're going to compromise ride quality unless you spend about double what you want to spend or you wait until my setup is done, which should be soon. I'm hoping to have it ready to test at the end of the month.

Consider my interest officially perked. Keep us posted please.

240on430 · 10-11-2007, 08:19 PM

go with coilovers that use original top mounts for comfort.

*!Zar!* · 10-11-2007, 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AceInHole

You should probably clarify that Koni's + springs wouldn't be good for drifting because they'll help your car grip. It seems for drifting people like to run solid beams instead of springs/ shocks, probably because they like a lack of traction.

Good dampers = not harsh = somewhat comfortable, regardless of the springrate.

That's why I'm going to invent, "Weld Shok". Why spend hundreds of dollars when you could weld your shock to the ride height you want and have aggressive fitment and the stiff ride that kids enjoy these days.

BUY IT NOW!!!

initial_drifter · 10-11-2007, 09:25 PM

I would say that by far the most comfortable coilovers that i've driven/ridden on are the Tanabe Sustec Pro's
http://tanabe-usa.com/coilovers/s-ocII.asp

The coilovers are nice and comfy, but you will be limited to height adjustability.

If you aren't gonna go out and build a crazy drift car and just want something smooth yet stiff enough to make tight turns i'd suggest these

crameur · 10-12-2007, 10:05 PM

Thanks a lot

10-08-2007, 01:13 AM	#1
crameur Leaky Injector Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Canada Age: 35 Posts: 102 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Choices Of Coilovers For s13 ( More Confortable ) Hi , I'm looking To get some Coilovers To put on my s13 , I would like to have feedback of many kind of Coilovers, I was looking at Tanabe , Stance , Maybe Apexi n1 !! Budget Of 1500 $$ , Most Daily Drive Use , A Little Bit Of Track Use , I'm looking For The Most Confortable And The Most Streetable Coilovers For My S13 !!Confort is Imporant for me!!! Thanks a lot !!!!

10-08-2007, 02:01 AM	#3
GSXRJJordan Post Whore! Join Date: May 2006 Location: << 626 >> Posts: 9,135 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: GSXRJJordan Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Why do you want coilovers? For performance, for lowering, for bragging rights? The problem with coilovers is that they're designed for performance; setting your ride height, keeping your pitch and roll in check, and keeping those tires attached to the ground, in that order. What makes them uncomfortable is their valving: cheap coilovers don't have that much adjustment in compression and rebound stiffness. My Tanabe Sevens do, as do most of the other top tier coils, but they're out of your price range. Out of personal experience, I'd say you should get RSR Race Springs and Koni Yellows or Tokico adjustables. It'll give you a lot of performance, a decently comfortable ride, great for the canyons - just not as good for drifting. Or you can do what the rest of us do: man up, get what performs well in your budget, and toughen up those kidneys. __________________ Jordan Innovations has a new web site! www.JordanInnovations.com -- All your favorite FD Pro Drifters love it, trust me -- www.JordanInnovations.com

10-08-2007, 12:49 PM	#5
GSXRJJordan Post Whore! Join Date: May 2006 Location: << 626 >> Posts: 9,135 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: GSXRJJordan Feedback Score: 19 reviews	^^^ lol Ace you're so anti-drift, it's cute He's right. By "give you a lot of performance" I didn't mean "make you drift". I meant your suspension will be close to proper, with tons of grip. If you turn the Konis or Tokicos all the way to stiff, they'll work alright for drifting, but transitions will be tough. A sporty/comfy ride with em set in the middle though. __________________ Jordan Innovations has a new web site! www.JordanInnovations.com -- All your favorite FD Pro Drifters love it, trust me -- www.JordanInnovations.com

10-08-2007, 01:35 PM	#6
DP_Michelle G Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Anaheim/OC Age: 38 Posts: 666 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=154534 http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=157870 __________________ BC RACING COILOVER REVIEW

10-08-2007, 01:44 PM	#7
Wiisass Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Philly Posts: 486 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Good dampers will work well for everything. The ones I valved for my brother's supra do awesome both on the road course and for drifting. But they're valved correctly. So the car is comfortable to drive on the street, especially considering the high sprung natural frequencies and stiff spring rates, it works awesome on the road course and can drift pretty well. For drifting, transitions are no problem, I think it takes them smoother than a lot of the other cars I've driven. Meaning that it's not too fast which would indicate too much rebound, but it's a lot smoother. Minimal overshoot, quicker settling time, so the car does what you want. And the compression curve is nice, so bumps and high frequency inputs are properly taken care of and not transfered into the chassis. So during a drift the car is very stable despite the type of road surface. So it can be done and it's not that hard, you just aren't going to find it in any of the coilovers that get pushed on here or talked about like they're actually good. I think people are using overly stiff dampers to make it easier to drift. But they're probably hurting the overall performance of the car for other parts of the course. Dampers too stiff in rebound for the rear can make it real easy to enter a fast turn, you can just let off the throttle, steer in and the back will start to step out. But it will also make the car a little harder to control for other sections of the course. For example, if you're coming in fast to a tight turn and you have all that rebound back there, you aren't going to be able to take the tight section as fast as someone with good dampers because you will have to fight the car to keep the rear where you want it. But I don't know, maybe it's just me and the fact I like good dampers. For the original poster, you're going to compromise ride quality unless you spend about double what you want to spend or you wait until my setup is done, which should be soon. I'm hoping to have it ready to test at the end of the month. __________________ TIP Engineering R/T Tuning Drift and RWD Sport DriftAssNation

10-08-2007, 01:18 AM	#2
TonKpilS14 BANNED Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: 714 SoCal Posts: 183 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	there is a thread floating somewhere around here on what r the best coilovers for the price. it shows about prolly 20sets total. search it.

10-08-2007, 02:12 PM	#8
aznpoopy Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: New Jersey Age: 40 Posts: 5,013 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	in that price range from my personal experience on jersey roads, which are fairly terrible nismo r-tune by far tein flex 2nd i have no idea what the shocks are doing, but they are firm without being harsh or bouncy.

10-08-2007, 04:07 PM	#9
crameur Leaky Injector Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Canada Age: 35 Posts: 102 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Ok , I want the car to Still Confortable With a Lot Of Grip !!!! I'm Not Drifting , Just Doing Donuts :P , So A Good Shock/ Spring Will do the job ????Wich One Are Good ??

10-08-2007, 04:50 PM	#10
*FaLKoN240* Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 16,760 Trader Rating: (73) Feedback Score: 73 reviews	What is up with the random cap locks? __________________ Best way to do business with me? Make your best offer FIRST.

10-09-2007, 05:43 PM	#12
Aoshi112 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 620 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Wiiass i was going to PM you about the project you started awhile ago. I can't wait to see the results!

10-10-2007, 09:15 PM	#13
crameur Leaky Injector Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Canada Age: 35 Posts: 102 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	other suggestions ?

10-11-2007, 06:56 AM	#14
water Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: FL Age: 41 Posts: 373 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Go with Tein Flexes. They were developed for your exact needs.

10-11-2007, 03:31 PM	#15
crameur Leaky Injector Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Canada Age: 35 Posts: 102 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Tein Flexes , Someone have Feedback of those ???

10-11-2007, 03:39 PM	#16
Sonic Motor www.SonicMotor.com Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: 4981 N Irwindale Ave #100, Irwindale, CA Posts: 9,481 Trader Rating: (113) Feedback Score: 113 reviews	must be the 1 millionth thread about the same topic...its like reruns on TV sigh.. __________________ Sonicmotor.com \| Zach @ Sonic Motor \| 626.363.9036 \| [email protected] Check out our website! ( CLICK )

10-11-2007, 04:23 PM	#17
DP_Michelle G Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Anaheim/OC Age: 38 Posts: 666 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	flexes are the same as the bc racing BR coilovers they both ride the same to me atleast and there only 900 bucks compared to the tein's price. everyone has already told you the ones that are out there So which ones have you chosen yet? if not this thread should be locked for being pointless. __________________ BC RACING COILOVER REVIEW

10-11-2007, 08:19 PM	#19
240on430 Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: San Francisco Posts: 230 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	go with coilovers that use original top mounts for comfort.

10-11-2007, 09:25 PM	#21
initial_drifter Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Mill Creek Posts: 380 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I would say that by far the most comfortable coilovers that i've driven/ridden on are the Tanabe Sustec Pro's http://tanabe-usa.com/coilovers/s-ocII.asp The coilovers are nice and comfy, but you will be limited to height adjustability. If you aren't gonna go out and build a crazy drift car and just want something smooth yet stiff enough to make tight turns i'd suggest these

10-12-2007, 10:05 PM	#22
crameur Leaky Injector Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Canada Age: 35 Posts: 102 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Thanks a lot

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