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Old 07-30-2002, 10:14 PM   #1
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I was showing my friend my car. We went by a local ricer hangout to see if anyone with half a brain on them was there. As it happened, the ricer meet was empty, but just as we were pulling out an eclipse gs with fart can and altezzas was leaving. He ran up by me, the typical ricer run... anyway, I slowly advanced to get next to him. I didn't want to show him what I had before we raced. We both caught eyes when we were next to eachother. Clutch in, shifter from 4 to 2, revs to 4500, we both dump. I then notice he's 6 car lengths behind me and struggling to catch up.

Now at the light he's looking mad and starts revving like he's gonna dump. Ok, I'll play, I rev to five and dump when it turns green, but he's decided he didn't want to race. So instead I slowed to speed limit and let him get by me. He waved the courtesy two fingers of submission and we went on our ways.

When I bought the 240, I expected to lose to practically any car on the road, especially modified. This is my second kill (other was a V6 accord w/fart can). What cars have you guys killed stock?
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Old 07-30-2002, 10:29 PM   #2
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just a word of caution.......i would keep your kills on the down-low and not post them because most of the people on the board do not agree with street racing....people who post their kills usually end up getting flamed so i just wanted to let you know........
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Old 07-30-2002, 10:48 PM   #3
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If it's a special kill, they don't get flamed, but beating a GS Eclipse is really nothing to brag about, so that will probably get a flame or two, but not from me.  Stock 240s are not fast though, so don't start to get cocky.
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Old 07-30-2002, 10:48 PM   #4
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Revved to 5 and then dumped the clutch?<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>?

shit man, i wouldnt be surprised if you weren't the one looking like a dumbass in this race. &nbsp;If you revved to 5,000 rpm and then dumped the clutch you wouldn't be going much of anywhere.
eclipse gs aren't exactly anything to brag about and you say you have beaten a v6 accord, i call bullshit on that one if your car is stock. &nbsp;It may have been a 4-banger accord. &nbsp;I believe a v6 accord 0-60 time is &nbsp;around 6.5, a stock 240's around 8.
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yea..i was gonna say the same thing..5000!?..isnt that a lil too high? and plus u dump the clutch...i talked to BOMEX240sx and he said he revs to like 4100 and dumps the clutch..im thinking..dats hella high and all u do is burnout..and go nowhere....i mean..i rev to like 2000 and dump the clutch..and i still burn out...so yea

wazzup ppl..stock cars or near stock..how do u do a good launch?..wat rpm do u rev too..and dump/slip the clutch?
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Old 07-30-2002, 11:21 PM   #6
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My best launches are done w/o me paying attention to anything else but the launch and the car. &nbsp;I don't look at the tach when I'm launching, but I know it's not a very high RPM, it's a small chirp and I'm off!!! &nbsp;If I had to say, it's probably about 2200 RPMs or so, but again, I don't look at the tach, so I could be wayy off.
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Old 07-30-2002, 11:25 PM   #7
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I'll make some videos if I have to. When I rev to five and dump I peel for about a second before I get good traction by my guess. And the race with the v6 accord, well, that was neck and neck, I was *barely* pulling on the dude.
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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (gsu240 @ July 30 2002,11:48)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Revved to 5 and then dumped the clutch?<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>?

shit man, i wouldnt be surprised if you weren't the one looking like a dumbass in this race. If you revved to 5,000 rpm and then dumped the clutch you wouldn't be going much of anywhere.
eclipse gs aren't exactly anything to brag about and you say you have beaten a v6 accord, i call bullshit on that one if your car is stock. It may have been a 4-banger accord. I believe a v6 accord 0-60 time is around 6.5, a stock 240's around 8.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
so ur saying a v6 accord runs 6.5 0-60.... hahah i laugh at ur antics <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> anyhow... thats almost as fast or even faster than an rsx type s...wheres the logic in that...i give the accord v6- around 7.8sec 0-60mph (if that) ... if u dont believe me check car and driver.

yeah and about launching... ive launched at 4500 rpm before but i spin for a sec...and the car goes...im not sure if im equipped with lsd or not...i hav a 97 LE... with leather and SE package 5sp. i say the best launch i had wuz around 3500-4000 slipping till the car inches then dropping.



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Honestly, I don't know how you guys do it, if I rev reletively high and dump the clutch, I spin for ages and ages...
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i feel ya..i mean..i dump at 4-5k..im there forever..might as well give up..i mean..i dump at 2k and im there for at least a sec or two..i dunno y some ppl thinking burning out during a race is good..yes i talked to ppl saying its good...i did a chirp once for a launch..and dat was it..every other time was a burnout.....but i can chirp on 2nd so dats good
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Yup, just like DriftMonkey said, I would not post kills unless it's power is among the lines of 200+ horsepower. I don't mind reading it, it's all fun to read and all, but beware of some of the more a$$hole members like eh hem, "camppain". I posted about beating a 2.5 RS Subaru Impreza with an exhaust and got flamed by him and a couple other guys. I mean it's just a story, but I guess nobody wants to hear about it unless it's something big. The thing is they could have let me know in a respectful matter, but sad to say, they didn't. Just letting you know from my experience. Oh yeah, not to diss "camppain" or anything cuz I know he knows a lot, but he didn't really know anything about drifting and he was trying to diss me about my screen name and how I just bought a 240 cuz I thought drifting was cool and in. Not to say I'm the master of drift but it's funny how people who aren't into drift flame the people who are, expecially if you're a newbie. Anyways, just another warning from your friendly zilvia member.... or should I say newbie since we go by posts number here.

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Old 07-31-2002, 02:42 AM   #13
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If you kill something in your new car and you are happy about it. Why should you not share your happiness? IF you have some problem with street racing Don't read Kill stories. &nbsp;Lets keep the 240 enviroment a more positive one. aight?
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Old 07-31-2002, 06:48 AM   #14
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geez dont those old school eclipse gs have like 95 hp at flywheel engines?
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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (NutzDrifta @ July 30 2002,02:35)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Yup, just like DriftMonkey said, I would not post kills unless it's power is among the lines of 200+ horsepower. I don't mind reading it, it's all fun to read and all, but beware of some of the more a$$hole members like eh hem, "camppain". I posted about beating a 2.5 RS Subaru Impreza with an exhaust and got flamed by him and a couple other guys. I mean it's just a story, but I guess nobody wants to hear about it unless it's something big. The thing is they could have let me know in a respectful matter, but sad to say, they didn't. Just letting you know from my experience. Oh yeah, not to diss "camppain" or anything cuz I know he knows a lot, but he didn't really know anything about drifting and he was trying to diss me about my screen name and how I just bought a 240 cuz I thought drifting was cool and in. Not to say I'm the master of drift but it's funny how people who aren't into drift flame the people who are, expecially if you're a newbie. Anyways, just another warning from your friendly zilvia member.... or should I say newbie since we go by posts number here.

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Don't post a kill unless it is something big and don't post something among the lines of "bought a 240sx to drift".</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
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Well to clear up the accord issue a v6 accord at least the newer ones have 200hp stock witha vtec motor along witht the 4 banger but the four banger has 150 with a vtec.I am seriously doubting any type of victory on a v6 accord unless the driver was one not racing or two missed a gear.My mom has a 2002 accord 4 banger and that thing is freaking quick i have victory on it about 8 times.But i also have a injen cai.But it still runs very well.i hate it when that thing starts to wine"sp".But street racing is not a very big deal to alot of peps on this board dont get me wrong i love to do street racing but i dont do it much anymore cus it is way to unsafe.Plus a gs is a slow piece of shit.But i say no way to the v6 accord.
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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (BEISSEN @ July 30 2002,09:18)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Well to clear up the accord issue a v6 accord at least the newer ones have 200hp stock witha vtec motor along witht the 4 banger but the four banger has 150 with a vtec.I am seriously doubting any type of victory on a v6 accord unless the driver was one not racing or two missed a gear.My mom has a 2002 accord 4 banger and that thing is freaking quick i have victory on it about 8 times.But i also have a injen cai.But it still runs very well.i hate it when that thing starts to wine"sp".But street racing is not a very big deal to alot of peps on this board dont get me wrong i love to do street racing but i dont do it much anymore cus it is way to unsafe.Plus a gs is a slow piece of shit.But i say no way to the v6 accord.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
most v6 accords are automatics... and the 5spd v6 runs mid and high 15s... so what do you mean a 240 couldnt beat one? some people suck at racing u know, or it was just an auto..

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stock accord - mid 15s/high 15s

edit: the best time you can prolly get out of a v6 accord 5spd is around a 15.5/15.6 and thats with perfect driver and perfect temp...

and stop bugging the kid he assumed his car was going to get beat all the time and its not. yes stock 240sx are slow but most other 4 cyl cars with 2 doors are slower... so stfu



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I'm new to this so don't clown on me. &nbsp;But what exactly is "dumping the clutch?" Also, what gear and RPM are you at?
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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (matic 240sx @ July 31 2002,2:53)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">most v6 accords are automatics...</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
ALL V6 Accords are automatics. &nbsp;Period. &nbsp;This V6 action you're talking about and quoting simply does not exist. &nbsp;The ONLY V6 products with manual trannies in the Honda/Acura stable are the 3.2CL and the NSX.

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (thelinja @ July 30 2002,4:18)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I'm new to this so don't clown on me. But what exactly is "dumping the clutch?" Also, what gear and RPM are you at?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
To explain what dumping the clutch is, first I need to explain what feathering the clutch is.

Feathering the clutch is basically when you release the clutch slowly and gradually, it's done for maximum smoothness during acceleration. &nbsp;Basically it's the way most people drive to and from work and to get places (everyday driving). &nbsp;

Dumping the clutch is the opposite of that, you release the clutch (I say release because I ride motorcycles and it's just habit) rapidly, there is absolutely no feathering, you just get on the throttle and go. &nbsp;I suck at explaining things w/o showing people.

As for the gear they are in, they said they started from a stop, so they are in 1st gear, and everyone gave different RPM numbers, so just go back and read those. &nbsp;What works for them might not work for you though, so I suggest getting a feel for your car because I know that if I were to dump the clutch at what was it 4 or 5K RPMs, my wheels would turn....but I'd stay still.
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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (uiuc240 @ July 30 2002,4:35)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (matic 240sx @ July 31 2002,2:53)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">most v6 accords are automatics...</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
ALL V6 Accords are automatics. Period. This V6 action you're talking about and quoting simply does not exist. The ONLY V6 products with manual trannies in the Honda/Acura stable are the 3.2CL and the NSX.

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I killed a possum last week. Ran him over and it made all kinds of noise as he went under the car bouncing of shit. I stopped and went back to make sure it was an actual kill, and it was.

He was deader than shit! I would have swerved to miss him but there was the ditch he came out of on one side and a BIG truck coming the other way so it was either him or me, he lost.

I'm pretty sure I could kill another if the timing was just right.

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DrDubbleB @ July 31 2002,3:41)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (uiuc240 @ July 30 2002,4:35)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (matic 240sx @ July 31 2002,2:53)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">most v6 accords are automatics...</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
ALL V6 Accords are automatics. Period. This V6 action you're talking about and quoting simply does not exist. The ONLY V6 products with manual trannies in the Honda/Acura stable are the 3.2CL and the NSX.

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No, all V6 sedans are automatic, coupes are another story.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
No. &nbsp;Go check Honda's website. &nbsp;I did before I posted just to make sure nobody could call me out for being wrong. &nbsp;Coupes and sedans both...3.0 VTEC V-6 with 200 hp and the 4AT is the ONLY TRANNY AVAILABLE.

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Starlin @ July 30 2002,4:46)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I killed a possum last week. Ran him over and it made all kinds of noise as he went under the car bouncing of shit. I stopped and went back to make sure it was an actual kill, and it was.

He was deader than shit! I would have swerved to miss him but there was the ditch he came out of on one side and a BIG truck coming the other way so it was either him or me, he lost.

I'm pretty sure I could kill another if the timing was just right.

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Oh, that makes total sense now. &nbsp;Dumping the clutch at about 2k-3k rpms won't damage the tranny or anything will it?
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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Starlin @ July 30 2002,4:46)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I killed a possum last week. Ran him over and it made all kinds of noise as he went under the car bouncing of shit. I stopped and went back to make sure it was an actual kill, and it was.

He was deader than shit! I would have swerved to miss him but there was the ditch he came out of on one side and a BIG truck coming the other way so it was either him or me, he lost.

I'm pretty sure I could kill another if the timing was just right.

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Freaking hilarious...I actually could of had a kill on one last night, but he looked like a ricer, so I swearved and didn't waste my time (I'm talking about a possum).

As for the kill story...big deal...congrats on the win, but come back when you get a gst or gsx.

As for the clutch dump...I do a clutch slip from 3100 rpm's for my launches, and I don't spend hardly anytime spinning, if any.
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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (uiuc240 @ July 31 2002,4:11)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DrDubbleB @ July 31 2002,3:41)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (uiuc240 @ July 30 2002,4:35)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (matic 240sx @ July 31 2002,2:53)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">most v6 accords are automatics...</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
ALL V6 Accords are automatics. Period. This V6 action you're talking about and quoting simply does not exist. The ONLY V6 products with manual trannies in the Honda/Acura stable are the 3.2CL and the NSX.

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No. Go check Honda's website. I did before I posted just to make sure nobody could call me out for being wrong. Coupes and sedans both...3.0 VTEC V-6 with 200 hp and the 4AT is the ONLY TRANNY AVAILABLE.

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All V-6 Accords are auto, even the ones that are coming next year will have a V-6 auto, they said that they might finally make &nbsp;the V-6 stick. But as for now they are all auto.

Chances of you beating a V-6 Accord are very slim.

Anyway about someone who said that we should just ignore kill stories, well if we don't bitch and complain and flame, then they will sprout all over the board and all the good topics will be pushed away. We have a lot of members here and if everyone shared thier race stories we would have half of page 1 filled with races, then we would get people that almost one start telling stories and such.
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I think that everyone should be able to post their kills in here, whether they are claiming a kill on a cheap ass tampon of a Civic or an all out beast like a Viper. It doesn't matter what kill you post anyone could call out bs, because anything is possible in a race, it all comes down to the best car and driver combination. Put an experienced driver in a SR powered 240 versus an unexperienced driver in a Twin Turbo Supra and my money would go on the experienced driver. SPEED means nothing if you don't know how to use it.

And don't worry about the "senior" members in here. Unless you are a Professional driver, you have no business flaming anyone for a racing kill. Show them the same respect that you would someone saying they beat a Viper or something (that could be bullshit too you know) A lot of people in here talk a lot of shit, I am going to start asking for credentials...

As for the author of this post, congratulations on the experience, hopefully it will encourage you to modify your 240 and get more experience, then you will have what you need to survive on the streets and on the track.
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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Griffon2k @ July 30 2002,6:07)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I think that everyone should be able to post their kills in here, whether they are claiming a kill on a cheap ass tampon of a Civic or an all out beast like a Viper. It doesn't matter what kill you post anyone could call out bs, because anything is possible in a race, it all comes down to the best car and driver combination. Put an experienced driver in a SR powered 240 versus an unexperienced driver in a Twin Turbo Supra and my money would go on the experienced driver. SPEED means nothing if you don't know how to use it.

And don't worry about the "senior" members in here. Unless you are a Professional driver, you have no business flaming anyone for a racing kill. Show them the same respect that you would someone saying they beat a Viper or something (that could be bullshit too you know) A lot of people in here talk a lot of shit, I am going to start asking for credentials...

As for the author of this post, congratulations on the experience, hopefully it will encourage you to modify your 240 and get more experience, then you will have what you need to survive on the streets and on the track.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Refer to the above post. &nbsp;He put it best about not wanting the whole racing stories unless it is something worthy...like a viper being taken by a four banger turbo...that's damn worthy of posting.

As for taking out a gs eclipse...big deal (I've said it once, I'll say it again). &nbsp;Everyone in here with a 240 has kills on civic this, teg that, dsm this...make it more worthy like a type r, or gsx, or a z28. &nbsp;Nobody wants to hear about you drifting your car, or beating the punkass one lane over with a ricey *insert whatever* p.o.s. &nbsp;

As for not respecting the "senior" members here...why don't you go find another forum dick weed. &nbsp;Nine out of ten senior members know more about every nook and cranny of the 240's and usually can give tricks to any install...That's damn worthy of repecting jerkoff.
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