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Old 04-19-2005, 10:53 AM   #1
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I read yesterday that they would probably have the new pope by thursday at the latest.
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will that finally make em STFU? I'm tired to seeing this shit on cnn and all other news channels. It's like the rest of the world seized to exist. Who gives a shit anyway.
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Who gives a shit anyway.
I give a shit. It affects me since I'm catholic. Just because you don't care about something or don't want to see it doesn't mean it doesn't matter to others. I'm tired of hearing people on hear bitch and moan about how bad california is as far as modifying vehicles and such but to I sit there and complain about it everytime it comes up? no, because it affects a large number of people and just because I'm not interested, they probably are.
edit: igor you douchebag
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someone correct me if I'm wrong, but did they pick the most conservative cardinal to succeed the title? cuz dammit. I was hoping to see the uber right catholic church move into the present within my lifetime... I was fairly convinced we might see some change but I guess not... the new pope is anti-gay marraige, anti-birth contol, anti-female clergy, etc etc etc.

Am I suprised, no, not really.
Am I dissapointed? oh hell yeah

The more things change, the more they stay the same I guess :/
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He's 78... it'll be a short palpacy.
The pope cycle seems to follow a pattern (and therefore cyclic). A long reign of a pope who was elected young, then a short (couple year) interim pope, who was elected very old and dies. Then, back to a youn, long presiding pope again. Look at John Paul II and the previous 2 or 3 preceding popes.

There is alot of stress involved with becomming pope, and few older people can handle it. Like that stress chart with divorce or marrage bieng 100 out of 100.. I think bieng pope, with the 1.1 billion followers, is in the 1000s out of 100.
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damn at 78? i think maybe they should have choosen someone younger? i mean he doesnt have many years left...
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did you know that he was a member of the NAZI party? honestly, no joke.
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he was mid 20's during WWII. he may have served in the german army but I doubt he was nescessarily a supporter of the nazi party. I am 99% sure the cardinals wouldn't have picked somebody with a doubtful past as the pope.
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for real? man thats all sorts of funny if its true. that dude looks freaking evil... for real.
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He was a hitler(sp) youth. His dad was anti-nazi. He got a pardon to become a priest.
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maybe he will be murdered like John Paul I. he was pope for just over a month.
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I give a shit. It affects me since I'm catholic. Just because you don't care about something or don't want to see it doesn't mean it doesn't matter to others. I'm tired of hearing people on hear bitch and moan about how bad california is as far as modifying vehicles and such but to I sit there and complain about it everytime it comes up? no, because it affects a large number of people and just because I'm not interested, they probably are.
edit: igor you douchebag
I'll try not to be an asshole, and wont post my views on religion (as it will ultimately lead to a flame war), but seriously, how many catholics are there in the world? 10% of world population? 20%? Is that sufficient percentage to be airing this election process over headlines for like 2 weeks? IMHO, not even close. When say north korea tests nuclear weapons, air that shit on the headlines for a freakin month by all means. Stuff like that affects whole world. News of the catholic church? Like i said, who gives a shit.

here is a bad example: I play soccer in 2 different leagues. I follow soccer games fairly closely. Does that mean i expect the news channels headline the 2006 world cup for a month? No. And i bet there are more soccer fans in the world then catholics

When people post about california on zilvia, it's like half the car forum population discussing car related things. When i turn on the news channel, i expect to hear all around news from the whole world, not the news of catholic church from a country of 1000 people.
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maybe he will be murdered like John Paul I. he was pope for just over a month.
he wasn't killed, in his haste to pack up his stuff to head to rome he forgot to bring medication. the papal doctor never had his medication refilled either. he was in office for 33 days. He suffered from poor blood flow and over-coagulation as evidenced from swollen ankles and feet. The following stuff is not proven fact but is accepted theory by most historians.
all events happened w/in 24 hours before his death.
he had 2 incidents where he felt very very ill but refused to let his secrataries call for a doctor.
his heart rate was raised from a long period of walking around his room as he was told not to walk in the gardens due to coldness.
he had a horrible coughing fit but once again refused dr's.
he had ran down the hallway to take a phone call just before his believed death in the 9:30-10:00 range. his secrataries found him and they placed him into his bed in a position that is very unlikely for somebody to be in if they just died of a heart attack. he was found sitting upright, glasses on, and papers in hand. the secrataries are believed to have done this to cover-up that they never called for a doctor even though they were asked, actually more ordered, not to.
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17% of the world population is catholic. christianity as a whole is 33%
muslim is 20% and hindu is 13%.
13% have no religion
the rest add up to 21%.

however, in the US, catholics make up 24%, christianity as a whole is 76%
10% have no religion, and the rest add up to 14%

which makes it a pretty big deal i'd say.
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hahahah, I fucking love those chops. I really doubt that 76% is actually Christian, they just say they are for tax breaks and because they celebrate Christmas. But yeah, he is definitely a "transitional" pope. As said above they usually pick a guy who is allready 1/2 dead between the greats to give them sometime to figure out who the f they want to pick. Whatev's on the media being obsessed with it for 2 weeks. THats how they go! Focus all news channels on everything for 2 weeks, then move on.
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I'll try not to be an asshole, and wont post my views on religion (as it will ultimately lead to a flame war), but seriously, how many catholics are there in the world? 10% of world population? 20%? Is that sufficient percentage to be airing this election process over headlines for like 2 weeks? IMHO, not even close. When say north korea tests nuclear weapons, air that shit on the headlines for a freakin month by all means. Stuff like that affects whole world. News of the catholic church? Like i said, who gives a shit.
I am NOT Catholic, never have been, never will be, I think I fell asleep the one time I tried to sit through a Catholic church service... I do, however, understand that the individual chosen to lead a given religion dying, and the subsequent selection of his replacement will be one of the major things on television, inteenet and print media until something else major happens... If catholocism, as you state, is 10, 20% of the world population, then why would that l;ot of individuals NOT give a shit? And the rest of us actually care because of this increasingly rare animal we call compassion
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The way media is running it makes it look like the whole world is on the edge of their seats waiting for the outcome of the ordeal. As if whichever of the cardinals gets elected is going to have any freaking effect on anyones life.

I never said they shouldnt talk about it. But put it somewhere on the side in 10 regular font, as 16 bold is reserved for at least somewhat important news.
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He's pretty old...and it doesn't phase me that much at all on who the pope currently is.

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The way media is running it makes it look like the whole world is on the edge of their seats waiting for the outcome of the ordeal. As if whichever of the cardinals gets elected is going to have any freaking effect on anyones life.

I never said they shouldnt talk about it. But put it somewhere on the side in 10 regular font, as 16 bold is reserved for at least somewhat important news.
Important news such as?
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^^ That would actually be worth seeing and quite entertaining, but still wouldn't amount to shit on a world scale, wouldn't matter to people outside of a buncha ricer kids and internet drifters... Are there 1.1 billion of those particular groups?
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Important news such as?
I dunnow... china invading russia... earthquake destroying half of san francisco... gas prices soaring to there all time highs...

Most of the time, i have some reference or at least can appreciate the information posted in the news. This thing has exactly zero importance to me and they are blabbering about it on the headlines for the last coupla weeks and its headlining every freaking news website. Just annoying.
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