zenkiticks

I'm trying to find out exactly how bad HID's will look in a zenki headlamp assembly with a yellowish lens.... any pics and please include what the bulbs are rated at.... i.e. 5000k, 6500k, 8000k, etc. Thanks.

zenkiticks

I am not here to argue about aftermarket versus retro-fit, beam patterns and sharp cut-off, or glare harming other drivers. I have searched most every thread and have read everyone's opinions thus far. I just want to see some pictures of what the headlights look like turned on with an HID kit of some sort installed. If they look horrible I may decide not to go through with it.

Prep Guy

I think if you read mostly every thread you would of saw
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.p...light=retrofit

pictures of HID on a zenki.

rainier

actually in my area i met a guy with a zenki and some HIDs w/o projectors. its the blue-ish color. dont know how bright but looks okay. glares WAY too much all over the road. but its cool since it lights up everything

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ghostuss

I have it without projector. Just get the reflector D2s bulbs. It's actually not as bad as you think. If I would just aim it a little lower hehe. But since I am lazy I just left it pretty high. I got complains from friends who drive in front of me. Also I have German glass headlights and Philips HID kit with 5-6000k bulb (forgot the rating) for the 240sx.

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ghambino

I was one of those friends ghost is talking about. We were driving in a dark road with no street lights and I had to fold my side view mirrors in and flip the rear view mirror to block the light just so I could drive without distractions or being blinded. Ghost you gotta fix that man. By the way how much did the kit cost you excluding glass headlights, I just might do the same thing.

ghostuss

I got it awhile back for $365. But you can piece up ur own for cheaper, except you won't have the metal bracket to fit the housing. So retro fit is a method. All you need is Philips Ballast, Philips D2s bulb (I think there are two type get the higher rating one) and the wires that you can just ask the seller to include. Just do the wiring by splicing the wires.

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zenkiticks

Actually I have already read that thread completely a couple of times. I really didn't want to see anything regarding a retro-fit kit. I should have explained that to keep sticklers like you at bay.

projectRDM

I have a set of 4300Ks in Ecode lamps, cutoff is a little better than the US lamps but still has some glare. No pics yet, but you were getting impateint for responses.

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RBS14

I know it's not what you want to hear, but don't do a drop in kit. Major weaksauce.

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ghostuss

The best is to do projector Retro fit. But not everyone knows now and you also have to buy the projector housing. I saw someone done it with s2k project housing on a kouki headlight before. I think was "Phi Unit." To me the result isn't that much better but you have a sharper cut off now.

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RBS14

but the result IS so much better. here's a comparo for you.

Zenki S14 w/6000k drop in kit.


My retro'd zenki with stock lenses, will be even better w/ clear ones.


The color is not as yellow on my car, but the light output is representative. Look at the difference in foreground lighting, reach, and evenness of the spread.

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ghostuss

You have also include the cost on those projector retro housing. You would have to open up the light housing, Cut the bracket blah blah... Of course it would be better. And yea a lot more work and you are pretty much screwed if you fuck up somewhere. A drop in kit with a good temp bulb and German glass headlights is good enough for me. btw you not even comparing the same HID kit here.

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RBS14

^^^^^

Whatever dude, I could care less about the justification/excuses you come up with.

You said only thing different was cutoff, and I gave PROOF with pics that a retro DOES give better output.

Oh and BTW my whole retro cost me ~$375. Any hid kit worth it's weight in salt (not many) will be at least that much.

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ghostuss

Hell no it won't cost that much. Philip ballast is like 100 each, + bulbs are like 30-40 each. That's what? 260-280. You probably got deals on ur stuff, I am just talking about normal ebay price here. Project housing isn't cheap. It's like 150 and retro fit is a bitch to do. For that little light difference, screw that. If you wanna aruge about beam brightness. Ok I will go take a pic of my light once I am done with midterm. I am pretty sure it's as close to ur brightness. Ur friend's 6000 which is a bit high on the bulb temp, it shows blue. I am sure yellow to a bit whiteish is the brightest color.And I have double checked, I have 5000k bulb, these

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nrg

think again before using hid kit: http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3505
s2k retrofit into kouki: http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6638

My light is 4300k and it's WHITE.

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ghostuss

drooling over retro fit. I always said it's better but is it worth the extra 160+ shipping and all other stuff? If I can do this without destroying my german light bracket and under 100 I would go for retro fit too.
http://www.hidplanet.com/bosch.html

anywayz, I got get back to study Ochem and Cal. Stupid quarter system and it's never ending mid-terms and finals.

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NI_YON_Zenki

Im running Gourmet Garage Ballast to McCullouch 8K Bulbs, great Blue hue sharp beam, but not a strong alignment due to the outter adjustment screw inside the headlamp housing is busted, I will still dopr images if still interested. .

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NI_YON_Zenki

Im running Gourmet Garage Ballasts to McCullouch 8K Bulbs, great Blue hue sharp beam, but not a strong alignment due to the outter adjustment screw inside the headlamp housing is busted, I will still drop images if still interested. .

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dct223

kaixen 6000K, no HID retrofit..






ill get a pic of a night shot on how it looks from inside the car on the road...

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nrg

^ please park the car 20ft away from the wall. then try taking pictures correctly.

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zenkiticks

I don't understand what you're comparing, a "drop in kit" and a "retro-fit," but the drop in looks better? You have clear lenses in the top pic? if not, I like the drop in kit.

Is this what you're referring to:
drop in= 250 bucks from ebay....?
retro-fit= source HID projectors and install them into stock headlamps...?

SilviaSR20DET

Heres a pic of my zenki with no retrofit and 5300k hid's

MrSkinny

Prolumen 5000k HID drop in kit. so bright that it makes my fogs useless but i still leave em on cuz i like the yellow. heh.



and here's how it looks lighting up my garage

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RBS14

Neither of us have clear lenses. Both are stock. I'm not talking about color either. His is purple and mine is pure white. My camera just made it look yellow. Look at how wide my beam is compared to his and the length too. I'm getting some glare with my setup, so once I have clear lenses, that light will be directed on the road, making for an even brighter road.

Yes drop-in is a hid bulb that you put in the stock headlight, and a retrofit is putting an OEM HID projector into the stock headlights.

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zenkiticks

I could you say you are an idiot, but that alone wouldn't make it true. If you say that I'm impatient, it really serves the same purpose, nothing. If you can help, thanks, if not, don't get this thread locked for stupid shit.

zenkiticks

yea i know all that, the other guy's comparison wasn't really accurate with the amount of imformation he gave IMO, that's all. thanks.

RBS14

Perfect example of why drop-in kits are so F*CKING obnoxious!

that's enough glare to kill a horse! Geez.

Not to mention that all of that light is not being directed at the road, making visability worse than it should be.


Note that if my pic was against a white wall, a ton more light would show up in the pic that the brown wall is absorbing. So yeah.

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Jeff240sx

That doesn't look like an issue with the HID kit, it looks like an issue with the digital camera used, and purple fringing.

There is a very important distinction between drop-in kit and a retro fit. The ONLY difference is that in a retrofit, you are using a different lens - the OEM projector. I've sold a set of 6500K (purple) bulbs to someone with a 350z. He retained the razor sharp cutoffs, and gained purple lights. The bulb will have very little result on glare/light. It's 98% the lenses.

S13 owners that switch to a $19 ebay-special H4 conversion have godaweful output. I've seen it. A local kid's HID lit up ~10 feet in front of him, and blinded me while I stood at a 135* angle to the light source. But when springing $80 for any ECE conversion kit, the cutoff is so much better, the light projects down the road, and there isn't dangerous glare.
On a zenki, there is a bit more glare than most other cars that accept drop-ins because of the flutes on the lenses. Koukis, however, look very good, and don't blind me as I drive in front of them. Good projectors. And nobody has complained about my gf's cougar's stock projectors with the HID kit.

Razor sharp cutoffs look good. Amazing. I want them. But not having them doesn't make you Satan Incarnate. If anything, lower the headlights to remove glare from drivers. There is a way to spend a couple hundred bucks and 5 minutes to double or triple your light output. Not everyone needs to spend many hundreds of dollars and hours sourcing/fabricating/installing a retro fit.

Again, I'm not taking anything away from retrofitters. Their stuff looks good. But - you guys ripping on kit owners is like Clearcorners ripping on you for not buying their $1800 HID retrofit. Apparently, theirs is the only DOT approved HID conversion. Retrofits and kits are both illegal. But the two cars I have with HIDs, and my friend's kouki and other friend's s14.5 .. none have been bothered by cops at all.

-Jeff

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zenkiticks

I agree with that ^^^^. I am not sure just yet if I want to mess with nasty zenki lenses to do it, hence my request for pictures. Some of those look okay, and a couple look really bad, like huge bluish purple glowing masses at night, NOT like "sweet, that guy's got a HID kit" kinda thing as you're coming down the road.