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MC.Understeer · 01-29-2013, 01:42 AM

Sold!!!!!!

xGUNKX · 01-29-2013, 01:54 AM

I might be interested in this soon

Superaison · 01-29-2013, 03:08 AM

i very much will be soon i def am interested

rb27dets14 · 01-29-2013, 06:27 AM

Lsx turbo Kouki mint.....u ship both

hobbs · 01-29-2013, 07:24 AM

This should go quick, any pictures of the rust?

MC.Understeer · 01-29-2013, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by hobbs

This should go quick, any pictures of the rust?

I will have more pictures today and will keep updating pictures till it sells.

jk26 · 01-29-2013, 09:33 AM

Great price for a fed legal r32, gtr or not this is gonna sell really quick and someone's getting an awesome deal.

wvexeaterw · 01-29-2013, 10:41 AM

Pm sent thanks

jcruz85 · 01-29-2013, 10:49 AM

First one ive seen since I joined that that's federally approved....free bump.

kcsil80 · 01-29-2013, 11:20 AM

free bump! this things crispy!

Knuckshaft · 01-29-2013, 12:32 PM

Can you post pics of the bond release, and the vin on the vehicle?

MC.Understeer · 01-29-2013, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knuckshaft

Can you post pics of the bond release, and the vin on the vehicle?

Yeah not happening. Might as well make a post explaing the hell I went through to do this. Not having this info on the internet. This is between me and the buyer. Sorry

*Mofuhcka* · 01-29-2013, 01:01 PM

Great price goddamn, glws sexy R32

Knuckshaft · 01-29-2013, 01:49 PM

It was for me. I'm looking for a federally legal car and that is by far the cheapest fed legal one ive seen. Makes me kinda Leary about it.

Second off how the heck does that explain how you got it legal. I know what a bond release states and it doesn't tell you how it made it legal, it just states that it now conforms.

RHDAmerica · 01-29-2013, 01:51 PM

^^^ I wouldn't give out personal info on a car either... If you're serious I would pm and maybe give info like that...

...

MrSanchez925 · 01-29-2013, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knuckshaft

It was for me. I'm looking for a federally legal car and that is by far the cheapest fed legal one ive seen. Makes me kinda Leary about it.

Second off how the heck does that explain how you got it legal. I know what a bond release states and it doesn't tell you how it made it legal, it just states that it now conforms.

this.

10k for a fed legal skyline?

something isn't right.....

zane · 01-29-2013, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrSanchez925

this.

10k for a fed legal skyline?

something isn't right.....

this............ glws

Knuckshaft · 01-29-2013, 02:10 PM

Not only that but 96-98 r33s are the only one on the import list

brewster240 · 01-29-2013, 02:13 PM

In for pics of accord headlights

Rag · 01-29-2013, 02:17 PM

In for actual proof of legality apart from buyer word of mouth.

ng26 · 01-29-2013, 02:18 PM

bump for a dope car! hope its all legit.

MC.Understeer · 01-29-2013, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rag

In for actual proof of legality apart from buyer word of mouth.

When someone comes to pick up the car they'll have all the proof they need before handing over any money. I don't to prove anything to everyone on zilvia, I've sold 4 skylines on here I don't need to start posting federal documents on the internet.

MC.Understeer · 01-29-2013, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knuckshaft

Not only that but 96-98 r33s are the only one on the import list

Are you posting facts or things you read online? I don't think you've actually imported a jdm car let alone as many as I have. This is THE only one Federally legalized that I own.

singlecamslam · 01-29-2013, 03:02 PM

Black 2002 Is 300 WAGON? Pm me if interested at all. 111k miles runs great. I'm guessing even though its legal in the US its probably still not legal in CA? Since we're our own communist car country down here.

Vandrel · 01-29-2013, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MC.Understeer

Are you posting facts or things you read online? I don't think you've actually imported a jdm car let alone as many as I have. This is THE only one Federally legalized that I own.

I could spend all day quoting the federal rules and regulations for importing but it'd be a waste of my time because Knuckshaft already pointed out the blemish of this sale post.

If this car is a bond released car then you can simply PM me the VIN and I'd be happy to verify it and vouch for this car on here. If you don't know who I am you can stroll over to SkylineOwnersUSA.com and read a bit

MC.Understeer · 01-29-2013, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vandrel

I could spend all day quoting the federal rules and regulations for importing but it'd be a waste of my time because Knuckshaft already pointed out the blemish of this sale post.

If this car is a bond released car then you can simply PM me the VIN and I'd be happy to verify it and vouch for this car on here. If you don't know who I am you can stroll over to SkylineOwnersUSA.com and read a bit

I could spend the day quoting things on the internet but as I pointed out already I don't need to prove anything about the car to anyone other than the buyer. I have all my paperwork for what ive stated I have for sale. So I don't care who you are on the internet.

Knuckshaft · 01-29-2013, 03:33 PM

No but if you knew who he was in real life and what he has been through you might be singing a different tune. You can read all kinds of shit on the Internet and it looks like that's all you've done. If you can't post up a vin and bond release you are full of shit or its vin swapped.

Vandrel · 01-29-2013, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MC.Understeer

I could spend the day quoting things on the internet but as I pointed out already I don't need to prove anything about the car to anyone other than the buyer. I have all my paperwork for what ive stated I have for sale. So I don't care who you are on the internet.

That is perfectly fine. We (SOUSA) have seen hundreds of sellers just like you since 2006. Same deal different person.

The offer stands. By not posting the bond release, HS7 or VIN you are only opening yourself up to having DHS paying you a visit after they find this thread.

Again, only trying to help you out here. Offer stands.

EDIT: For anyone thinking of buying this car, please do some research. Jump on SkylineOwnersUSA.com and ask before investing any time or money in travling to visit a shady car. We have plenty of people who have been there and done that in this market.

For everyone's information, R32's are not open for import except for NISMO GTR models under show/display. 96-98 R33's are open to import but there's only one known place that can do the OBDII for the EPA conformance and they are refusing to do any more. Only select R34's are open for import and they are few and far between (basically don't exist).

The only other bond released Skylines you will find are old Motorex cars, period.

Cars from Canada are not federally legal and do not carry a bond release from OVSC (NHTSA). Taking a Canadian titled Skyline to the DMV and managing to get a U.S. title for the car does not mean it's federally legal. If there's no bond release from NHTSA/OVSC, no HS7, and no EPA form then it's not legal.

18 months and you can all get a 89' R32 for practically nothing.

I'm not crapping on your thread but I've seen far too many buyers spending time and money to go out of their way to look at and purchase an illegal car that they had no idea was illegal because they were not educated enough. Some people are fine with getting a non-federally legal car, to each their own. But fact is, U.S. title does not = legal. No bond release = always subject to seizure.

EDIT: Adding this to my fist post so it's more visible to folks who have no clue about this sort of stuff

Quote:

Originally Posted by MC.Understeer

Clearly you cannot read and have went onto a new subject of your own. Read a little better. I have my Federal paperwork all lined up for the person that's buying the car. Anything you're saying is meaningless.

Ok cool....... it's been years since I really needed to use this and I don't feel like retyping it.

I'm just going to leave this right here

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vandrel

(Note Telephone Area Code is "202" Except for San Angelo Test Facility)

Quote:

IMPORT AND CERTIFICATION
DIVISION (NVS-223)
Coleman Sachs, Chief
Kristi Bragdon, 366-5291
Administrative Assistant
E-Mail: [email protected]
FAX: 366-1024

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Dick Merritt
- Compliance Certification of Canadian Imports
- Show or Display Exemption
- Temporary Importation for research,
investigations, demonstrations, or training
- Importation of Small Motor
Scooters (pocket bikes, mini-ninjas,
mini-choppers, etc)
- Importation of Race Vehicles

Both of them hate Skylines to the fullest. Even Sean Morris will tell you that.

All you have to do is say, "Hey, I have a company called Next Level Motorsports selling me a Nissan Skyline R34 from Japan, they said that Nissan of Japan is making it meet FMVSS and EPA regulations and then Next Level Motorsports is shipping it to the US. Is that legal and will my Nissan Skyline R34 clear customs and be able to be titled and used for On-Road use?"

Answer from them, "No, and can you give me the contact information for Next Level Motorsports?"

Then we'll see Next Level Motorsports on the latest headlines for being raided by ICE like Kaizo and the rest of the yahoos.

Again, Next Level Motorsporst is NOT a Registered Importer nor a Independant Commercial Importer and Nissan of Japan cannot and will not certify Japanese Domestic Market vehicles as meeting U.S. Federal Motor Vehcile Safety Standards when it's already been proven that they do not meet those standards and are not legal for import.

That means they cannot legally bring a car into this country in any way, shape, or form. That furthermore means that whatever car they try and get you to pay for so they can ship it to the U.S. will have a 80% chance of being marked for serizing before it even lands at the port. There was a service member stationed in Japan that had his R32 GTR sent to California when he PCS'd, needless to say it was tagged and bagged before it even landed.

In order for a vehicle to enter this country, a Bill of Lading must be sent in along with a HS-7. What those documents contain are the VIN# and year/make/model of any vehicles that are arriving and what they are arriving for. In order for a vehicle to leave customs it has to be "cleared" and "approved" by Customs Boarder Patrol (CBP) who in turn clears it through the NHTSA.

Ports are secure locations, meaning Joe Shmuckatelli cannot just walk up in that place, you have to go to a entry checkpoint office and check in with the duty, you have to state your business, you have to have papers for your shipment that you are picking up and they must review them. They physically call down to the docks and varify everything and "IF" you are allowed to enter you must be escorted the entire time. Nothing enters or leaves without being checked and rechecked, just like a military entry control point for a base but worse.

To keep things simple, when you call the OVSC and talk to either Coleman Sachs or Dick Merritt, simply give them the VIN# to the vehcile you are trying to import or just the year/make/model and ask them if it's legal for importing. They are the final, say all, end of ends, word. No matter what Joe Shmoe at Next Level tells you, what those folks at the OVSC tell you is the LAW.

For reference: http://skylineownersusa.com/files/ovscorgchart.pdf

I don't care what you say or what papers you have there showing you had someone drive the car into the country from Canada in December 2012. Your car is NOT federally legal, period. You simply had a lucky stroke (if your papers are legit) where CBP did not do their job. That car is subject to seizure at all times.

For those who did not read the above quote I made years ago, simply call the above provided phone number and give them a VIN to verify. They keep a complete active database of all cars (Skylines included) that have entered the country legally. If they don't have a record of the VIN it's not legal. End of story.

Quote:

18 U.S.C. §545
"Whoever knowingly and willfully, with intent to defraud the United
States, smuggles, or clandestinely introduces any merchandise which
should be invoiced, or makes out or passes, or attempts to pass, any
false, forged or fraudulent invoices, or other document or paper; or
whoever fraudulently or knowingly imports or brings into the United
States any merchandise contrary to law, or buys such merchandise after
importation, knowing the same to have been imported or brought into
the United States contrary to law may be fined or imprisoned."

Items that fall under 18 U.S.C. §545 are subject to seizure and forfeiture.

JDM Imports and Next Level are not approved or authorized to conduct
importation of motor vehicles subject to FMVSS and EPA regulations.
Regardless of whether they do so or not, any attempt they make is,
again, a violation of law as noted above per 18 U.S.C. §545. Any
vehicle that they handle which is required to be bond released will be
subject to seizure and forfeiture, even after they've entered the
country and received a U.S. motor vehicle title. Only a "Registered
Importer" approved by the NHTSA may import and modify such vehicles
that require a bond release, vehicles that do not pass through the
proper channels are forever subject to seizure and forfeiture per 18
U.S.C. §545, even after they reach exemption year (25 years old).

I am quoting Next Level Motorsports info from years ago because it's relevant to whoever imported that car. I'm also shocked that http://www.pcbusa.com/ would have signed off on such a case.

As others stated, no one cares if the car isn't legal. People care when the car is misrepresented to be legal. It's nothing shy of shady and utter bullshit to try and dupe a buyer into thinking that car is legal at all. Tell the truth, let them know what they are getting into, you will find people who are willing to accept the risks.

Lastly, with a Canadian VIN I'm sure posting pictures of that car over on GTRCanada.com would yield some interesting feedback from the community there. People talk.

Piggy · 01-29-2013, 03:46 PM

http://zilvia.net/f/cars-sale/500197...azy-color.html

I'd be willing to do anything and everything in my power to work out a deal.

MC.Understeer · 01-29-2013, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vandrel

That is perfectly fine. We (SOUSA) have seen hundreds of sellers just like you since 2006. Same deal different person.

The offer stands. By not posting the bond release, HS7 or VIN you are only opening yourself up to having DHS paying you a visit after they find this thread.

Again, only trying to help you out here. Offer stands.

EDIT: For anyone thinking of buying this car, please do some research. Jump on SkylineOwnersUSA.com and ask before investing any time or money in travling to visit a shady car. We have plenty of people who have been there and done that in this market.

For everyone's information, R32's are not open for import except for NISMO GTR models under show/display. 96-98 R33's are open to import but there's only one known place that can do the OBDII for the EPA conformance and they are refusing to do any more. Only select R34's are open for import and they are few and far between (basically don't exist).

The only other bond released Skylines you will find are old Motorex cars, period.

Cars from Canada are not federally legal and do not carry a bond release from OVSC (NHTSA). Taking a Canadian titled Skyline to the DMV and managing to get a U.S. title for the car does not mean it's federally legal. If there's no bond release from NHTSA/OVSC, no HS7, and no EPA form then it's not legal.

18 months and you can all get a 89' R32 for practically nothing.

I'm not crapping on your thread but I've seen far too many buyers spending time and money to go out of their way to look at and purchase an illegal car that they had no idea was illegal because they were not educated enough. Some people are fine with getting a non-federally legal car, to each their own. But fact is, U.S. title does not = legal. No bond release = always subject to seizure.

Clearly you cannot read and have went onto a new subject of your own. Read a little better. I have my Federal paperwork all lined up for the person that's buying the car. Anything you're saying is meaningless.

01-29-2013, 01:42 AM	#1
MC.Understeer Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Seattle Age: 34 Posts: 290 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Thinking about buying a Skyline? READ THIS THREAD FIRST!!! Sold!!!!!! Last edited by dorkidori_s13; 10-08-2013 at 08:36 PM..

01-29-2013, 10:49 AM	#9
jcruz85 Leaky Injector Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: New Jersey Age: 35 Posts: 53 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	First one ive seen since I joined that that's federally approved....free bump. __________________ For Sale!!! PM or inbox for info n contact info.

01-29-2013, 01:01 PM	#13
Mofuhcka Barrys World Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Sacramento Posts: 1,810 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Great price goddamn, glws sexy R32 __________________ @hcr32love 400whp NEO R32 Sedan

01-29-2013, 01:51 PM	#15
RHDAmerica Banned from the Marketplace Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: RHDAmerica Posts: 924 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	^^^ I wouldn't give out personal info on a car either... If you're serious I would pm and maybe give info like that... ... Last edited by RHDAmerica; 01-29-2013 at 03:04 PM..

01-29-2013, 03:02 PM	#24
singlecamslam Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Norcal Posts: 2,531 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	Black 2002 Is 300 WAGON? Pm me if interested at all. 111k miles runs great. I'm guessing even though its legal in the US its probably still not legal in CA? Since we're our own communist car country down here. __________________ Nothing says racecar like a stock car with no interior.

01-29-2013, 03:08 AM	#3
Superaison Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ohio Posts: 131 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i very much will be soon i def am interested

01-29-2013, 06:27 AM	#4
rb27dets14 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: ri Age: 35 Posts: 1,301 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Lsx turbo Kouki mint.....u ship both

01-29-2013, 07:24 AM	#5
hobbs Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Under a rock Posts: 2,263 Trader Rating: (43) Feedback Score: 43 reviews	This should go quick, any pictures of the rust?

01-29-2013, 09:33 AM	#7
jk26 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,231 Trader Rating: (31) Feedback Score: 31 reviews	Great price for a fed legal r32, gtr or not this is gonna sell really quick and someone's getting an awesome deal.

01-29-2013, 10:41 AM	#8
wvexeaterw Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: ca Posts: 5 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Pm sent thanks

01-29-2013, 11:20 AM	#10
kcsil80 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: KCMO Posts: 17 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	free bump! this things crispy!

01-29-2013, 12:32 PM	#11
Knuckshaft Leaky Injector Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Boerne tx Age: 37 Posts: 50 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Can you post pics of the bond release, and the vin on the vehicle?

01-29-2013, 01:49 PM	#14
Knuckshaft Leaky Injector Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Boerne tx Age: 37 Posts: 50 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	It was for me. I'm looking for a federally legal car and that is by far the cheapest fed legal one ive seen. Makes me kinda Leary about it. Second off how the heck does that explain how you got it legal. I know what a bond release states and it doesn't tell you how it made it legal, it just states that it now conforms.

01-29-2013, 02:10 PM	#18
Knuckshaft Leaky Injector Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Boerne tx Age: 37 Posts: 50 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Not only that but 96-98 r33s are the only one on the import list

01-29-2013, 02:13 PM	#19
brewster240 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: tampa bay, fl Age: 38 Posts: 1,042 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	In for pics of accord headlights

01-29-2013, 02:17 PM	#20
Rag Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 171 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	In for actual proof of legality apart from buyer word of mouth.

01-29-2013, 02:18 PM	#21
ng26 Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: I.E. Posts: 86 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	bump for a dope car! hope its all legit.

01-29-2013, 03:33 PM	#27
Knuckshaft Leaky Injector Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Boerne tx Age: 37 Posts: 50 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	No but if you knew who he was in real life and what he has been through you might be singing a different tune. You can read all kinds of shit on the Internet and it looks like that's all you've done. If you can't post up a vin and bond release you are full of shit or its vin swapped.

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