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BustedS13 · 09-25-2009, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by slowpo

Shenmue was the best game ever.

virtual toy collecting is the best game ever?

BOROSUN · 09-25-2009, 06:47 PM

red baron blah...air warrior was the shit.

***FaLKoN240*** · 09-25-2009, 07:38 PM

I will tear people a new asshole in Smash Bros on N64.

40daws · 09-25-2009, 07:41 PM

Bard's Tale
Wasteland
Police Quest 1-2-3
Snatcher
Omnimusha (spelling ?)
Old ass Apple IIc and Sega Cd games I still have and enjoy. Recent new games I like(d)
are Mass Effect, Half Life 2, and all the Knights of the Old Republic RPGs. I cannot stand multiplayer. Never done it, never will.

zaneithan · 09-25-2009, 08:11 PM

i blame halo and the guitar hero series, why? because they started making gaming popular and it became more profitable to companies to pump out 5 mediocre games at a cheaper price that sell semi well than one really awesome game at a higher price.

HyperTek · 09-25-2009, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by zaneithan

i blame halo and the guitar hero series, why? because they started making gaming popular and it became more profitable to companies to pump out 5 mediocre games at a cheaper price that sell semi well than one really awesome game at a higher price.

haha alot of people say halo sucks as a FPS game but people love it, i never played it so i cant say my opinion. Prince turned down the offers he had to put his music in those guitar games, saying he rather kids play real guitar if they really want to play instead of all the time they spend playin a game

zaneithan · 09-25-2009, 08:41 PM

i dont mind halo, think its a pretty decent game with a decent story, just how it has helped popularize games for mainstream audiences is what i am griping about, this, brawl, GH, rockband, party games, its paying off for companies to just make quick bucks off semi decent games instead of awesome titles..... more than likely there will be another massive video game crash sometime within the next few years and things will go back to normal hopefully

*kingkilburn* · 09-26-2009, 12:54 AM

You can't say every one has sold out. Companies like BioWare are looking at three to five years to develop some of their newest stuff. That kind of commitment is not for a quick buck. I can see myself playing Mass Effect 2 for years to come.

Exitspeed, I too love 2d side scrolling games. I dying for a new MegaMan X game done in the vain of the first 5. Or maybe a good platformer based on some nice physics and timing.
They should bring back top down adventure games. I would be real happy to see a solid clone of Link to the past, maybe a 10-15 hour game.

zaneithan · 09-26-2009, 06:43 AM

like everything else in the world there are exceptions to what the masses are doing, like you said bioware still putting out good games, but also i take into account older games bioware has made...the star wars KOTOR series for the regular xbox, great games, great story, good length and then i look at mass effect, which I personally found the dialogue to be dry and the story only meh... i didnt even finish it, but its to each their own ya know? there's really no sense in bitching about vidya because what one person might dislike, you might personally love and thats what its all about right? having fun

0wn3r · 09-26-2009, 06:47 AM

go play Call of Duty 4 or reserve Modern Warfare 2...

zaneithan · 09-26-2009, 07:12 AM

own COD4 and plan to pick up MW2, but here lies the problem with todays game, or the evolution... those both will be mainly geared towards online, the story really doesnt matter (hell i know people who never even touch the story just go straight to online), and a lot of game companies are gearing games toward online with a mediocre short story included just because they have to

Quail · 09-26-2009, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ESmorz

What needs to happen is Bethesda needs to make a Zombie game.

In the same vein as Oblivion and Fallout 3.

40+ hours of gameplay. Zombie Apocalypse. FPS RPG. Not some cheesey ass arcade game, but a gritty fucking game that makes you choose between peoples lives and your own ammo or medical and food supply.

Winner.

Thats a pretty good idea actually. I dont even want to think about how many hours I have in Oblivion

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I'm mostly a console gamer now, although I grew up on Commander Keen, Wolfenstein and Doom. Also have fond memories of Kings Quest IV, Duke Nukem (the side scrolling versions) and many other Apogee games.

Then I moved on to my NES, (whilst playing on my neighbours' SNES and Megadrive), and eventually got a PS when they came out. Like I said, I was mostly a console gamer, but I still enjoyed playing strategy games on my PC (early Warcrafts, Total Annihilation, etc).

Then PS2 happened, and eventually now on my Xbox360. I still rate the PS2 for its robustness and massive choice of games. I pretty much only play Forza and Oblivion on my Xbox (nothing else can hold my attention for that long), and I definitely miss the glory days of gaming

VNG704 · 09-26-2009, 07:51 AM

Some people think games with stories are movies. Personally, I like games with a deeper storyline. Xenogear, Xenosaga (all of them), Chronotrigger... I liked turn play rpg games. Waiting!

***Future240*** · 09-26-2009, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by slowpo

Shenmue was the best game ever.

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Originally Posted by exitspeed

But I agree, games feel very "throw-away" now. Gears of War was like that for me. I beat it and had zero interest in playing it ever again. I traded it in really quick and got a bunch of money for it.

Agreed, games seem to be following moves and music down the entertainment shitter. I can't remember the last time a game just wowed the shit out of me.

***CrimsonRockett*** · 09-26-2009, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by FaLKoN240

I will tear people a new asshole in Smash Bros on N64.

That's what my buddy said.

Played him.

Tore him a new asshole.

MGS4 was pretty good. Took me a few hours to beat it, but it seemed as if I was watching a movie more than I was actually playing the game itself.

Resident Evil 5 was pretty awesome.

I can spend hours playing Halo and COD when I have nothing to do.

Can spend an entire night playing Rock Band 2 with friends.

Super Smash Bros. for N64. Now, that we can spend all day playing.

TravisSW · 09-26-2009, 12:27 PM

Games are more epic when you're younger. As we get older, it loses it's epicness. I remember being 7 years old and playing the first Doom and all the others. That was epic to me. The first boss in Quake was epic too as well. But being young, our minds are different then being at an older age.

A little bit of selling out has a bit to do with it as well.

Just my thoughts.

Imo though, two epic games coming up: MAG and MW2.

***Future240*** · 09-26-2009, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TravisSW

Games are more epic when you're younger. As we get older, it loses it's epicness. I remember being 7 years old and playing the first Doom and all the others. That was epic to me. The first boss in Quake was epic too as well. But being young, our minds are different then being at an older age.

A little bit of selling out has a bit to do with it as well.

Just my thoughts.

Imo though, two epic games coming up: MAG and MW2.

I think I agree with you on this. While Zelda is still a great game, it doesnt have that wow effect on me like it did when I first played it. Perhaps as we mature we require more mature things to wow us, and games are taking their sweet time developing truly engaging stories to keep us interested.

aznpoopy · 09-26-2009, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by chibo

I guess, but I can't really remember buying games and being utterly disappointed in them like I have lately. By epic games I mean games that stayed around a long time with a good community. Hell, I just realized I've been playing Counter-Strike on and off for the past 10 years - that community sucks now but still.

gameplay wise i agree with you. maybe we're just old though. i'm sure this generation will think of gears and halo as landmark classics in 10 years.

console style match making has kind of diffused the traditional pc game community. you don't get to know people since there aren't centralized servers you're constantly going back to. you can form small communities though; my gf's little brother has a shitload of 360 live friends he plays with consistently. not quite the same as the server / forum / clan etc there was back in the day though.

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Originally Posted by exitspeed

But I agree, games feel very "throw-away" now. Gears of War was like that for me. I beat it and had zero interest in playing it ever again. I traded it in really quick and got a bunch of money for it.

alot of these games now rely on the mp component for longevity. i agree with you, but once again, i think we're just old (see above)

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Originally Posted by kingkilburn

You can't say every one has sold out. Companies like BioWare are looking at three to five years to develop some of their newest stuff. That kind of commitment is not for a quick buck. I can see myself playing Mass Effect 2 for years to come.

exactly. ive been through mass effect like 4 times... haha. knights of the old republic at least 6. blizzard is another obvious example.

you guys can still get your 2d games just on hand held market. i am a little disappointed with how 'hold your hand' they are nowadays. for instance, metroid zero basically gives you waypoints, instead of letting you run around and figure it out like in the original.

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Originally Posted by TravisSW

Games are more epic when you're younger. As we get older, it loses it's epicness.

i agree.

BustedS13 · 09-26-2009, 02:28 PM

all this talk of being good in smash bros is lulzy. it's a button masher. anybody who can smash buttons will be "good" at it.

***FaLKoN240*** · 09-26-2009, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BustedS13

all this talk of being good in smash bros is lulzy. it's a button masher. anybody who can smash buttons will be "good" at it.

It's hardly a button masher.

***CrimsonRockett*** · 09-26-2009, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by FaLKoN240

It's hardly a button masher.

At all.

I'm super technical on it.

My gf used to just mash on the buttons(which got annoying).

Now, she's super technical too.

Can spend hours playing on Kirby's stage and that Pokemon(Safron City?) stage.

Zelda's and Star Fox's stages are way too big.

ESmorz · 09-26-2009, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quail

Thats a pretty good idea actually. I dont even want to think about how many hours I have in Oblivion

.

I'm mostly a console gamer now, although I grew up on Commander Keen, Wolfenstein and Doom. Also have fond memories of Kings Quest IV, Duke Nukem (the side scrolling versions) and many other Apogee games.

Then I moved on to my NES, (whilst playing on my neighbours' SNES and Megadrive), and eventually got a PS when they came out. Like I said, I was mostly a console gamer, but I still enjoyed playing strategy games on my PC (early Warcrafts, Total Annihilation, etc).

Then PS2 happened, and eventually now on my Xbox360. I still rate the PS2 for its robustness and massive choice of games. I pretty much only play Forza and Oblivion on my Xbox (nothing else can hold my attention for that long), and I definitely miss the glory days of gaming

I only use my console for sports and racing games. Everything else is PC. I can't play anything FPS on a console, I feel retarded.

A true zombie game still hasn't been made and I think with that formula... it could happen.

lolatclint · 09-26-2009, 05:19 PM

video games suck dick nowadays

Bubbles · 09-26-2009, 10:45 PM

Cannot find people who can beat me in Smash Brothers, not even at college.

However, I would get my ass handed to me at a competition, most likely by a 15 year old.

I didn't even know what the fuck a wavedash was.

*kingkilburn* · 09-27-2009, 12:06 AM

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Maybe we're just old though

I feel older than I am. lol

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I'm sure this generation will think of Gears and Halo as landmarl classics in 10 years.

Gears of War will only stick out because of its over the shoulder view, chainsaw, and Hoard mode. When I think about it all I get is gray and gritty(= blah).

Halo is big because it really made console fps stand out. I think the game design is good too but that is just an opinion I guess.

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you guys can still get your 2d games just on hand held market.

Fuck hand held. I want a full blown huge budget massive 2d game. Viewtifull Joe was on the right track and Shadowcomplex is near gold. I hope they both get sequels, and not as downloadable games either.

***FaLKoN240*** · 09-27-2009, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Bubbles

Cannot find people who can beat me in Smash Brothers, not even at college.

However, I would get my ass handed to me at a competition, most likely by a 15 year old.

I didn't even know what the fuck a wavedash was.

Gamecube is the bastard child of SB.

SochBAT · 09-27-2009, 02:33 PM

I've always had my own concepts for making a videogame.

Turn-based battles, but interactive. I dug Legend of the Dragoon for PSX, MarioRPG for SNES, and the Mario&Luigi RPGs for GBA/DS. Awesome execution

***Future240*** · 09-27-2009, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Soooshi

I've always had my own concepts for making a videogame.

Turn-based battles, but interactive. I dug Legend of the Dragoon for PSX, MarioRPG for SNES, and the Mario&Luigi RPGs for GBA/DS. Awesome execution

KOTR basically, I love those games. I am so dissapointed that the new one is going to be a mmorpg.

Matej · 09-27-2009, 02:58 PM

One of my ideas is a game set in medieval times, but with no magic or dragons or anything supernatural. Just adventuring through the land, with castles and such. It seems that everyone loves to stick magic in every game that has a medieval theme.

SochBAT · 09-27-2009, 03:57 PM

^^

I agree. I would substitute "technology" in for magic.

Anyone could use 'tech' but those adept in sciences would accel, ie herbalists, alchemists.

None of that Essence of Demon soul shit.

"Dried bog" + "Flint n Tinder" = FIRE.

LIMITED supplies, impromptu combat scenarios, dealing with environmental diseases/threats, AND constant watch for ambushes.

Simple, realistic, and badass.

It'd start like Fallout3, toon building and crafting, and build up from there.

09-25-2009, 07:38 PM	#63
*FaLKoN240* Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 16,761 Trader Rating: (73) Feedback Score: 73 reviews	I will tear people a new asshole in Smash Bros on N64. __________________ Best way to do business with me? Make your best offer FIRST.

09-25-2009, 08:11 PM	#65
zaneithan Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NY Age: 36 Posts: 948 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	i blame halo and the guitar hero series, why? because they started making gaming popular and it became more profitable to companies to pump out 5 mediocre games at a cheaper price that sell semi well than one really awesome game at a higher price. __________________ 1993 240sx fastback (wrecked) 1991 240sx SE fastback Daily Driver status 1992 240sx fastback (???) 1986 Toyota Corolla SR5 Coupe (sold)

09-25-2009, 08:41 PM	#67
zaneithan Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NY Age: 36 Posts: 948 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	i dont mind halo, think its a pretty decent game with a decent story, just how it has helped popularize games for mainstream audiences is what i am griping about, this, brawl, GH, rockband, party games, its paying off for companies to just make quick bucks off semi decent games instead of awesome titles..... more than likely there will be another massive video game crash sometime within the next few years and things will go back to normal hopefully __________________ 1993 240sx fastback (wrecked) 1991 240sx SE fastback Daily Driver status 1992 240sx fastback (???) 1986 Toyota Corolla SR5 Coupe (sold)

09-26-2009, 12:54 AM	#68
kingkilburn Philosopher King Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: FresYes Posts: 3,041 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	You can't say every one has sold out. Companies like BioWare are looking at three to five years to develop some of their newest stuff. That kind of commitment is not for a quick buck. I can see myself playing Mass Effect 2 for years to come. Exitspeed, I too love 2d side scrolling games. I dying for a new MegaMan X game done in the vain of the first 5. Or maybe a good platformer based on some nice physics and timing. They should bring back top down adventure games. I would be real happy to see a solid clone of Link to the past, maybe a 10-15 hour game. __________________ G O L D E N B E A R R E P U B L I C

09-26-2009, 06:43 AM	#69
zaneithan Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NY Age: 36 Posts: 948 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	like everything else in the world there are exceptions to what the masses are doing, like you said bioware still putting out good games, but also i take into account older games bioware has made...the star wars KOTOR series for the regular xbox, great games, great story, good length and then i look at mass effect, which I personally found the dialogue to be dry and the story only meh... i didnt even finish it, but its to each their own ya know? there's really no sense in bitching about vidya because what one person might dislike, you might personally love and thats what its all about right? having fun __________________ 1993 240sx fastback (wrecked) 1991 240sx SE fastback Daily Driver status 1992 240sx fastback (???) 1986 Toyota Corolla SR5 Coupe (sold)

09-25-2009, 06:47 PM	#62
BOROSUN Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: two legit to quit Age: 41 Posts: 5,211 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	red baron blah...air warrior was the shit.

09-25-2009, 07:41 PM	#64
40daws Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Nonterrestrial Posts: 197 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Bard's Tale Wasteland Police Quest 1-2-3 Snatcher Omnimusha (spelling ?) Old ass Apple IIc and Sega Cd games I still have and enjoy. Recent new games I like(d) are Mass Effect, Half Life 2, and all the Knights of the Old Republic RPGs. I cannot stand multiplayer. Never done it, never will.

09-26-2009, 06:47 AM	#70
0wn3r Zilvia Addict Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: CT Posts: 676 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	go play Call of Duty 4 or reserve Modern Warfare 2... __________________ 97 240sx se

09-26-2009, 07:12 AM	#71
zaneithan Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NY Age: 36 Posts: 948 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	own COD4 and plan to pick up MW2, but here lies the problem with todays game, or the evolution... those both will be mainly geared towards online, the story really doesnt matter (hell i know people who never even touch the story just go straight to online), and a lot of game companies are gearing games toward online with a mediocre short story included just because they have to __________________ 1993 240sx fastback (wrecked) 1991 240sx SE fastback Daily Driver status 1992 240sx fastback (???) 1986 Toyota Corolla SR5 Coupe (sold)

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VNG704 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 1,575 Trader Rating: (17) Feedback Score: 17 reviews	Some people think games with stories are movies. Personally, I like games with a deeper storyline. Xenogear, Xenosaga (all of them), Chronotrigger... I liked turn play rpg games. Waiting!

09-26-2009, 12:27 PM	#76
TravisSW Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Orange County, CA Age: 37 Posts: 2,071 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Games are more epic when you're younger. As we get older, it loses it's epicness. I remember being 7 years old and playing the first Doom and all the others. That was epic to me. The first boss in Quake was epic too as well. But being young, our minds are different then being at an older age. A little bit of selling out has a bit to do with it as well. Just my thoughts. Imo though, two epic games coming up: MAG and MW2. __________________ 1986 Porsche 944 Turbo (951) 1995 Nissan 240sx (S14) Miss ya.

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BustedS13 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Phoenix AZ Age: 36 Posts: 10,287 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	all this talk of being good in smash bros is lulzy. it's a button masher. anybody who can smash buttons will be "good" at it. __________________

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Bubbles Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Location, Location. Posts: 3,320 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Cannot find people who can beat me in Smash Brothers, not even at college. However, I would get my ass handed to me at a competition, most likely by a 15 year old. I didn't even know what the fuck a wavedash was. __________________ For all the world knows, my vagina could be moist with desire as we speak.

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SochBAT Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Abilene, TX Age: 35 Posts: 6,428 Trader Rating: (9) Rides Gallery: SochBAT Feedback Score: 9 reviews	I've always had my own concepts for making a videogame. Turn-based battles, but interactive. I dug Legend of the Dragoon for PSX, MarioRPG for SNES, and the Mario&Luigi RPGs for GBA/DS. Awesome execution

09-27-2009, 02:58 PM	#89
Matej Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: N/A Posts: 9,423 Trader Rating: (39) Feedback Score: 39 reviews	One of my ideas is a game set in medieval times, but with no magic or dragons or anything supernatural. Just adventuring through the land, with castles and such. It seems that everyone loves to stick magic in every game that has a medieval theme.

09-27-2009, 03:57 PM	#90
SochBAT Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Abilene, TX Age: 35 Posts: 6,428 Trader Rating: (9) Rides Gallery: SochBAT Feedback Score: 9 reviews	^^ I agree. I would substitute "technology" in for magic. Anyone could use 'tech' but those adept in sciences would accel, ie herbalists, alchemists. None of that Essence of Demon soul shit. "Dried bog" + "Flint n Tinder" = FIRE. LIMITED supplies, impromptu combat scenarios, dealing with environmental diseases/threats, AND constant watch for ambushes. Simple, realistic, and badass. It'd start like Fallout3, toon building and crafting, and build up from there.

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