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Old 07-08-2008, 04:20 PM   #91
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something different i like it, should of been a 20b for all the hassel you inccured. 20b's sound amazing at 9-10k rpm, hope you dont rear end somebody because that intercooler radiator setup thats so beautiful will be toast. Im selling my kouki built ka-t if any one interested not to thread jack but im going back to a FD3S for sexy style

The car was designed so that a 20b will bolt directly into this. Making the hassle worth while for both engines. I didn't want to do 20b (yet?) for the fact that the amount of money spent vs power needed a 13b turbo fit the criteria better. A 13b is comfortable around the 400-500hp range. Also produces less heat and less weight.
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The horsepower and torque was at 13lbs w/93 octane, roughly tuned on our dyna packs. The engine at the time only had 60 miles on it. The more I drove it the stronger it felt. We've been working on a few 3rotor conversions on FD/FCs so I have not yet re-dyno'd the car. I built this not to break records but to be a purpose built track car. I'll be posting more pictures when the car is finally done. Thanks again for the your comments.
Thats what I wanted to hear - good shit. Those are good numbers so far for the boost range... What you cranking it up to when all said and done?
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Thats what I wanted to hear - good shit. Those are good numbers so far for the boost range... What you cranking it up to when all said and done?
16psi is really the most I'm going to run for now. Don't really need much more power.
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Hello gents ,Im a lil late to the party here. I am in the process of puting a 13B-RE Cosmo in my S13. My reasons for this are ,much lower center of gravity,the weight loss Vs SR is only minimal(60-80lbs guessing),but it is ditributed much better. On my setup the engine is 98% behind the front cross member, only the front iron & related components are ahead of it.

As far as 400 being a cake walk for an SR that may or may not be true ther are aloooooot more parts to buy to get to that point & do it correctly VS a rotary. Of course it helps alot when you know how to port & assemble your own stuff. I think the amount of jack asses blowing up SRs & rotarys is a close race ,all for the same reasons poor tuning & poor parts selction & poor upkeep.

Also all this talk of the rotary being a non reliable motor is all garbage,MAZDAs racing history was built on the fact that these motors were very reliable in a road race setting. Just the pure nature of drifting is very hard on these motors. The problem is all of these "Import Tuners" out there that dont even understand basic 4 stroke principals let alone how to extract reliable HP from a rotary. Not that Im so guru or anything . Just my .02
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How come only 400whp? That thing has dry sump and a big ass turbo... You should be able to rev the shit out of that rotary especially with a dry sump setup to spool that thing. Is there a post with more information on it like a dyno graph or how much boost they are running?

That is a straight up awesome swap and it was done well. That Precision 61 shouldn't be short at 400whp as the 67s go to like 700whp on supras.... I know different league, but the airflow should still be there.
"It made 400whp and 280tq @ 13lbs of boost on 93 octane, and with 60 miles on the engine.......Once its fully broken in we will turn up the pressure. "
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Hello gents ,Im a lil late to the party here. I am in the process of puting a 13B-RE Cosmo in my S13. My reasons for this are ,much lower center of gravity,the weight loss Vs SR is only minimal(60-80lbs guessing),but it is ditributed much better. On my setup the engine is 98% behind the front cross member, only the front iron & related components are ahead of it.

As far as 400 being a cake walk for an SR that may or may not be true ther are aloooooot more parts to buy to get to that point & do it correctly VS a rotary. Of course it helps alot when you know how to port & assemble your own stuff. I think the amount of jack asses blowing up SRs & rotarys is a close race ,all for the same reasons poor tuning & poor parts selction & poor upkeep.

Also all this talk of the rotary being a non reliable motor is all garbage,MAZDAs racing history was built on the fact that these motors were very reliable in a road race setting. Just the pure nature of drifting is very hard on these motors. The problem is all of these "Import Tuners" out there that dont even understand basic 4 stroke principals let alone how to extract reliable HP from a rotary. Not that Im so guru or anything . Just my .02

How far along are you on the build?
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Rotary swap 240sx , id make that bish street legal.. then you have street legal SR20 territory without the stress and worry from cops
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Reminds me of the 20B AE86... Yeah, it's old but still fucking awesome.

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I think the amount of jack asses blowing up SRs & rotarys is a close race

You would be wrong.
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How far along are you on the build?
. Well the motor & trans are mounted. So now Im working of plumbing,& reconstructing the tunnle & firewall!!!

BUBBLES- You forgot the rest of the sentence wich is the reasoning behind the statement,But its cool if you disagree
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I didn't forget anything.

Rotaries are FAR less reliable than sr's.

It's not even an opinion.



I fucking love rotaries and have owned two of them

but you look at that thing wrong and it goes into fuck-mode.
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this wouldnt happen to be peter would it ? the car looks way familiar
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Old 07-14-2008, 07:29 PM   #107
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this wouldnt happen to be peter would it ? the car looks way familiar
yes you're right its Peter.
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Ok...

Why are people still so dense when it comes to torque?

Let me guess, a Formula 1 car is a piece of crap because it doesn't have a near 1 to 1 torque ratio...right? I mean it revs to 20,000 RPM with all of its 2.4L fury only producing roughly 185 foot pounds at redline. With peak torque probably settling in around or below 300 foot pounds.

I think a lot of you guys need to do some learning and figure out how the HP number is derived...it couldn't be a mathematical equation or anything could it...

RPM is your friend, you need less torque and boost to create large amounts of horsepower. The "car" world needs to realize this rather than bashing a car because it has "low" torque.
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yeah but more torque=more fun.

500hp 500tq>500hp 300tq
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yeah but more torque=more fun.

500hp 500tq>500hp 300tq
800hp 500tq> 500hp 300tq

Yes I agree is more fun
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Wow a P20 carb. That thing sucks some fuel.
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Wow a P20 carb. That thing sucks some fuel.
It's a drinker for sure.
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I suppose if you really want to make a Nissan less reliable, this is one way to go about it.

Not really my thing, but hey, if they like it, then good for them.
I remember an article in one of the mags a few years ago about a guy at some shop swaping his FD RX-7's 13b rotary for an SR because he got tired of it breaking.

Cool points for being different though.
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it is a drift car? I guess he never got the memo that you want torque for drifting =)

cool project though.
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I think the amount of jack asses blowing up SRs & rotarys is a close race ,all for the same reasons poor tuning & poor parts selction & poor upkeep.

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I wholeheartedly agree with this dude's post.
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Cool...this car has maybe been to one event all year. Fuck yeah bro, purpose built drift car that never sees the track, gtfo.
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it is a drift car? I guess he never got the memo that you want torque for drifting =)

cool project though.

still more torque than a stock sr and a stock ka that ppl drift with right?
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He's a great driver use to drift back in the day project elite boys. He works at a Rotary shop around cbus so it makes sense. Cool guy missed the car though crashed too fast.. I bought the shell of his friend loun lol.

Shit didn't see he is posting in here lol....
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Iv seen my share of SR's in Rx-7's so i geuss its there turn. cool
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