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mehsilvia · 01-18-2008, 03:00 PM

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R-Compound D.O.T. Approved Competition Tire

A unique semi-slick shoulder area, continuous center contact, and enhanced R compound combined with the V-shaped tread design make the R888 ideal for road racing, track days, and high-performance driving schools. In competition, the improvements in casing and tread design increase dry performance, while maintaining wet traction and control. The R888 provides consistent performance throughout the life of the tread.

My first set of R-Compounds. Gonna be kicking off the new season right!

Contacted Toyo about their infamous RA1, but their sizes in 18 are limited. They suggested/offered the R888. Their new up-n-coming and rummored replacment of the RA1.

The only thinng i know about the R888 is that they run about +10mm from whats listed.

Ill be running 235/40 front (8.5"wheel) and 255/35 (9.5" wheel) - which i guess is closer to 245 & 265

Anyone run them personaly or know anyone who does? All ive got so far from searching is a tremendous amount of marketing info and forums talking about the great selection and availability.

S14SwimShark105 · 01-18-2008, 03:13 PM

Hey, if I remember right, they are the exact same compound as the Ra-1's just a more aggressive tread , I THINK haha. How come you are running so little width? GO WIIIIDEE!!! haha you should go 245 front and 265 back,OR 255 front and 265 back OR 255 ALL AROUND

all R-compounds run about 5-10mm wider than your normal street tires I believe, even the bridgestone Re-01r's run alittle wider than usual. But damn those tires are expensive haha The most commonly used R-compounds I see are the Toyo Ra-1's and the Nitto Nt-01's both really nice tires I've had both.

Nice car though man maybe I'll see you at this years Nasa events

*slider2828* · 01-18-2008, 03:29 PM

I saw these tires at SEMA but I don't think they are readily available yet. I think more closer towards the summer I think.

tchenku · 01-18-2008, 03:31 PM

go wide for grip. if that's your blue s14 in the pic, i'd run 265-front and 285-rear. but, good choice in tires. let us know how they work for you.

mehsilvia · 01-18-2008, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by S14SwimShark105

Hey, if I remember right, they are the exact same compound as the Ra-1's just a more aggressive tread , I THINK haha. How come you are running so little width? GO WIIIIDEE!!! haha you should go 245 front and 265 back,OR 255 front and 265 back OR 255 ALL AROUND

all R-compounds run about 5-10mm wider than your normal street tires I believe, even the bridgestone Re-01r's run alittle wider than usual. But damn those tires are expensive haha The most commonly used R-compounds I see are the Toyo Ra-1's and the Nitto Nt-01's both really nice tires I've had both.

Nice car though man maybe I'll see you at this years Nasa events

Thanks for the info. Ive got to get some suspension work/tuning before i go any wider. Already got a bit of rubbing when im killing it at tracks like HTM and the real technical areas of Buttonwillow.

Hope to see you out there too. Got a few of us with NASA already a few more interested i think this year. Youll have no problems finding me out there.

mehsilvia · 01-18-2008, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by slider2828

I saw these tires at SEMA but I don't think they are readily available yet. I think more closer towards the summer I think.

They have mine in stock, so im pretty stoked.

Plus the Toyo rep said that they are more readily available than the RA1's at this time.

S14SwimShark105 · 01-18-2008, 03:47 PM

haha I dont think anyone will have a problem spotting you at the track. Common man dont go 235's up front at least 245 haha. Right now on my street wheels I'm running 245/45/18 Bridgestone Re-01r's all around just cause I got them for cheap,but they dont rub at all when I'm at the track so I'm sure 245/40/18 in the front would clear no problem and 255/35/18 or 265/35/18 in the rear wouldn't be too much of a problem either with a SLIGHT SLIGHT pull or even just hammering the inside lip might do it.

On my track wheels (enkei rpf1's) I'm running Nitto Nt-01 in 245/40/17's all around. Since my car is just stock with headers intake and exhaust only, I dont really want to run much wider than that. But since you got some nice power you should go wider. WIIIDER WIIIIIDER WIIIIIDER!! haha

Nikeboy355 · 01-18-2008, 03:51 PM

My friend runs R888s on his Evo and is sponsored by Toyo...

He loves them and I was thinking about getting a set myself...

Gumballf355 · 01-18-2008, 04:00 PM

Haven't tried them but at 100 tread wear they seem nice. Good for track days... and sticky enough to help you pass cars with street tires even at those narrow widths.

steve shadows · 01-18-2008, 04:27 PM

i need to rob a bank

I need these more than anyone.

Last time at buttonwillow I only full throttled the car a couple times to pass and down the main straight.

mostly because of tires.

haha

spool_sample · 01-18-2008, 05:13 PM

I say pull an AceInHole... beat the living hell out of your fenders, run 18x10s, and throw on some 285/30/18s.

Dreaming aside, you would probably be fine with 235/255. But you could also consider 255/35/18 up front and 265/35/18 or 275/35/18 rear since those will be just as short or shorter than 235/40 and 255/35. Just have to work the fenders and get proper backspacing. veilside180sx's custom Konis give lots of clearance if you're thinking about changing suspension.

S14SwimShark105 · 01-18-2008, 05:19 PM

Aceinthehole 's tire sizing is pretty insane, but for a s14 road race car I dont think you would want to go that wide. You probably would never use up all of the grip unless you had a lot of power and running pretty high high speeds. MAX I'd ever go would be 275/40/17's all around but thats just me haha

spool_sample · 01-18-2008, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by S14SwimShark105

I dont think you would want to go that wide.

NONSENSE!

lol.

UNITEDMASTER · 01-19-2008, 09:15 PM

Hello to the OP, yea I would say go 245 minimum for the front .Based on the last time I saw your car at HTM there are still some things that need to be done to eliminate rubbing & issues, Hell then I was on 245/40 all around on S13 slammed. Im gonna be going to 245/40-275/30-18 Hoosier R6 & they run quite a bit wide(flater width profile) so the 245 is more like a 255/265 street tire after next wknds run

TheArkitekt · 01-20-2008, 09:19 AM

I road race my s13 and run those same widths, except on 17 inch wheels. I run the RA-1s, and they are simply amazing. I was passing friends that run AO48s which are 40 treadwear lower then the RA1s. In addition they last about 5-7 events before they get to worn down but keep grip the whole time.

I also agree with your statement about size, this is plenty for the car. I had no understeer issues with the smaller front tire size and was not quite using all the grip the setup had to offer.

Do you ever do any NASA events out east? it would be nice to have another Silvia out there.

sean350z · 01-20-2008, 09:50 AM

I'm digging my NT-01s 255 all around on my S14. If I remember right, Toyo manufactures them and I think the compound is very similar to the RA-1 if not the same...

jonasblack · 01-20-2008, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheArkitekt

I road race my s13 and run those same widths, except on 17 inch wheels. I run the RA-1s, and they are simply amazing. I was passing friends that run AO48s which are 40 treadwear lower then the RA1s. In addition they last about 5-7 events before they get to worn down but keep grip the whole time.

I also agree with your statement about size, this is plenty for the car. I had no understeer issues with the smaller front tire size and was not quite using all the grip the setup had to offer.

Do you ever do any NASA events out east? it would be nice to have another Silvia out there.

What size wheel and tires do you run?

racepar1 · 01-21-2008, 12:19 AM

R888's are sexy! I'm jealous! Seriously though go wider especially in the front. I am running 255/40/17 on all 4 of my s-13, although I am definitely not slammed. I just took a cheap-ass baseball bat and flared my front fenders, I am actually going to use a fender rolling tool for the rears though as they are quite a bit stronger than the fronts.

TheArkitekt · 01-21-2008, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jonasblack

What size wheel and tires do you run?

I run 17x7 +33 FR 17x8 +35 Rear with 235/40/17 front and 255/40/17 rear.

cefirosliderRB2.7 · 01-21-2008, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TheArkitekt

I run 17x7 +33 FR 17x8 +35 Rear with 235/40/17 front and 255/40/17 rear.

FAIL.... buldging rubber is gay.. a little stretch never hurt anyone...cause sidewall fold is gay... go 235/40 max front...with a 8J rim...and 255/40- 265/35 with the 9.5J thats plenty of meat...

S14SwimShark105 · 01-22-2008, 05:13 PM

^^ bulging rubber is the shiz, stretched tires are gay, I've never seen any true dedicated race car that runs stretched tires. I ran somewhat stretched tires on my wheels one time and it just jacks up your rim at the track. The track isn't always clean, sometimes theres like big rocks everywhere that you cant really avoid and when you run over them it hits the lip of the rim and just bends it like a mother. If you got a 8 inch width rim 235 at the LEAST not at MOST

racepar1 · 01-23-2008, 12:53 PM

The max I would want to go on a 7" wheel is 225, on an 8" wheel 245, and on a 9"wheel 275. If you go beyond those sizes on those width wheels you are outside the min rim width specs for the tires. That doesn't necessarily mean that you will have any problems, but it does mean that the tire is not DESIGNED to work 100% effectively on that wheel. I just try to stay within the manufacturer's reccomendations. For my next set of tires I plan to run 275/40/17 NT01's on my 9" wheels, unless I can find an affordable r-compound 275 with a 35 sidewall. Seriously though fuck stretch! This is the WRONG thread to be preaching any amount of stretch. There are absolutely no proven performance gains to stretching. Leave stretch to the drifters and fan-boys!

owenxguo · 03-03-2008, 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gumballf355

Haven't tried them but at 100 tread wear they seem nice. Good for track days... and sticky enough to help you pass cars with street tires even at those narrow widths.

Well, depends on drivers

01-18-2008, 03:00 PM	#1
mehsilvia Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Simi Valley, CA Age: 45 Posts: 2,642 Trader Rating: (39) Rides Gallery: mehsilvia Feedback Score: 39 reviews	Any fellow Grippers using Toyo Proxes R888's? Marketing Product/Sizes R-Compound D.O.T. Approved Competition Tire A unique semi-slick shoulder area, continuous center contact, and enhanced R compound combined with the V-shaped tread design make the R888 ideal for road racing, track days, and high-performance driving schools. In competition, the improvements in casing and tread design increase dry performance, while maintaining wet traction and control. The R888 provides consistent performance throughout the life of the tread. My first set of R-Compounds. Gonna be kicking off the new season right! Contacted Toyo about their infamous RA1, but their sizes in 18 are limited. They suggested/offered the R888. Their new up-n-coming and rummored replacment of the RA1. The only thinng i know about the R888 is that they run about +10mm from whats listed. Ill be running 235/40 front (8.5"wheel) and 255/35 (9.5" wheel) - which i guess is closer to 245 & 265 Anyone run them personaly or know anyone who does? All ive got so far from searching is a tremendous amount of marketing info and forums talking about the great selection and availability.

01-18-2008, 03:13 PM	#2
S14SwimShark105 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: socal Age: 37 Posts: 493 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Hey, if I remember right, they are the exact same compound as the Ra-1's just a more aggressive tread , I THINK haha. How come you are running so little width? GO WIIIIDEE!!! haha you should go 245 front and 265 back,OR 255 front and 265 back OR 255 ALL AROUND all R-compounds run about 5-10mm wider than your normal street tires I believe, even the bridgestone Re-01r's run alittle wider than usual. But damn those tires are expensive haha The most commonly used R-compounds I see are the Toyo Ra-1's and the Nitto Nt-01's both really nice tires I've had both. Nice car though man maybe I'll see you at this years Nasa events __________________ http://www.amazon.com/gp/prod Amazon book!

01-18-2008, 03:29 PM	#3
slider2828 Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 5,824 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	I saw these tires at SEMA but I don't think they are readily available yet. I think more closer towards the summer I think. __________________ Turn and Burn!

01-18-2008, 03:47 PM	#7
S14SwimShark105 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: socal Age: 37 Posts: 493 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	haha I dont think anyone will have a problem spotting you at the track. Common man dont go 235's up front at least 245 haha. Right now on my street wheels I'm running 245/45/18 Bridgestone Re-01r's all around just cause I got them for cheap,but they dont rub at all when I'm at the track so I'm sure 245/40/18 in the front would clear no problem and 255/35/18 or 265/35/18 in the rear wouldn't be too much of a problem either with a SLIGHT SLIGHT pull or even just hammering the inside lip might do it. On my track wheels (enkei rpf1's) I'm running Nitto Nt-01 in 245/40/17's all around. Since my car is just stock with headers intake and exhaust only, I dont really want to run much wider than that. But since you got some nice power you should go wider. WIIIDER WIIIIIDER WIIIIIDER!! haha __________________ http://www.amazon.com/gp/prod Amazon book!

01-18-2008, 03:51 PM	#8
Nikeboy355 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA Age: 41 Posts: 734 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	My friend runs R888s on his Evo and is sponsored by Toyo... He loves them and I was thinking about getting a set myself... __________________ http://respectvolkracing.blogspot.com/

01-18-2008, 03:31 PM	#4
tchenku Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NC Posts: 224 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	go wide for grip. if that's your blue s14 in the pic, i'd run 265-front and 285-rear. but, good choice in tires. let us know how they work for you.

01-18-2008, 04:00 PM	#9
Gumballf355 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Age: 41 Posts: 605 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Haven't tried them but at 100 tread wear they seem nice. Good for track days... and sticky enough to help you pass cars with street tires even at those narrow widths.

01-18-2008, 04:27 PM	#10
steve shadows Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: LA and OC Posts: 8,202 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	i need to rob a bank I need these more than anyone. Last time at buttonwillow I only full throttled the car a couple times to pass and down the main straight. mostly because of tires. haha __________________ Like Me on FaceBook !

01-18-2008, 05:13 PM	#11
spool_sample Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OH Age: 34 Posts: 269 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: spool_sample Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I say pull an AceInHole... beat the living hell out of your fenders, run 18x10s, and throw on some 285/30/18s. Dreaming aside, you would probably be fine with 235/255. But you could also consider 255/35/18 up front and 265/35/18 or 275/35/18 rear since those will be just as short or shorter than 235/40 and 255/35. Just have to work the fenders and get proper backspacing. veilside180sx's custom Konis give lots of clearance if you're thinking about changing suspension.

01-18-2008, 05:19 PM	#12
S14SwimShark105 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: socal Age: 37 Posts: 493 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Aceinthehole 's tire sizing is pretty insane, but for a s14 road race car I dont think you would want to go that wide. You probably would never use up all of the grip unless you had a lot of power and running pretty high high speeds. MAX I'd ever go would be 275/40/17's all around but thats just me haha __________________ http://www.amazon.com/gp/prod Amazon book!

01-19-2008, 09:15 PM	#14
UNITEDMASTER Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Anaheim Posts: 1,626 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	Hello to the OP, yea I would say go 245 minimum for the front .Based on the last time I saw your car at HTM there are still some things that need to be done to eliminate rubbing & issues, Hell then I was on 245/40 all around on S13 slammed. Im gonna be going to 245/40-275/30-18 Hoosier R6 & they run quite a bit wide(flater width profile) so the 245 is more like a 255/265 street tire after next wknds run __________________ MR JACKSON.

01-20-2008, 09:19 AM	#15
TheArkitekt Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: merika...fuck yeah Posts: 296 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	I road race my s13 and run those same widths, except on 17 inch wheels. I run the RA-1s, and they are simply amazing. I was passing friends that run AO48s which are 40 treadwear lower then the RA1s. In addition they last about 5-7 events before they get to worn down but keep grip the whole time. I also agree with your statement about size, this is plenty for the car. I had no understeer issues with the smaller front tire size and was not quite using all the grip the setup had to offer. Do you ever do any NASA events out east? it would be nice to have another Silvia out there.

01-20-2008, 09:50 AM	#16
sean350z Zilvia Addict Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Downingtown, PA Posts: 890 Trader Rating: (5) Rides Gallery: sean350z Feedback Score: 5 reviews	I'm digging my NT-01s 255 all around on my S14. If I remember right, Toyo manufactures them and I think the compound is very similar to the RA-1 if not the same... __________________

01-21-2008, 12:19 AM	#18
racepar1 Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Simi Valley, CA Age: 38 Posts: 9,006 Trader Rating: (106) Rides Gallery: racepar1 Feedback Score: 106 reviews	R888's are sexy! I'm jealous! Seriously though go wider especially in the front. I am running 255/40/17 on all 4 of my s-13, although I am definitely not slammed. I just took a cheap-ass baseball bat and flared my front fenders, I am actually going to use a fender rolling tool for the rears though as they are quite a bit stronger than the fronts.

01-22-2008, 05:13 PM	#21
S14SwimShark105 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: socal Age: 37 Posts: 493 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	^^ bulging rubber is the shiz, stretched tires are gay, I've never seen any true dedicated race car that runs stretched tires. I ran somewhat stretched tires on my wheels one time and it just jacks up your rim at the track. The track isn't always clean, sometimes theres like big rocks everywhere that you cant really avoid and when you run over them it hits the lip of the rim and just bends it like a mother. If you got a 8 inch width rim 235 at the LEAST not at MOST __________________ http://www.amazon.com/gp/prod Amazon book!

01-23-2008, 12:53 PM	#22
racepar1 Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Simi Valley, CA Age: 38 Posts: 9,006 Trader Rating: (106) Rides Gallery: racepar1 Feedback Score: 106 reviews	The max I would want to go on a 7" wheel is 225, on an 8" wheel 245, and on a 9"wheel 275. If you go beyond those sizes on those width wheels you are outside the min rim width specs for the tires. That doesn't necessarily mean that you will have any problems, but it does mean that the tire is not DESIGNED to work 100% effectively on that wheel. I just try to stay within the manufacturer's reccomendations. For my next set of tires I plan to run 275/40/17 NT01's on my 9" wheels, unless I can find an affordable r-compound 275 with a 35 sidewall. Seriously though fuck stretch! This is the WRONG thread to be preaching any amount of stretch. There are absolutely no proven performance gains to stretching. Leave stretch to the drifters and fan-boys!

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