whats the best way to install wide rear fenders??? - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

colombian240sx · 08-14-2007, 12:05 AM

well guys im about to put my rear wheels that are 11.5 wide, and thats why i have to install my rear wide fenders, but i don't know whats the best way to do it, so if you know whats the best way, or you have any suggestions please lend me know.

thanks.

RPS13FREAK · 08-14-2007, 12:13 AM

19.5 inches WIDE?! WHOA

Phoenix_95 · 08-14-2007, 12:20 AM

Wurd...you much have gotten those from A Spec lol. Thats like 18 feet worth of lip

colombian240sx · 08-14-2007, 12:20 AM

jejeje i typed it wrong sorry!

colombian240sx · 08-14-2007, 12:22 AM

the wide its 11.5

Phoenix_95 · 08-14-2007, 12:33 AM

Well, there are several FAQs on zilvia from various other people that went widebody. If you just search for them...I know there is at least 1 that is VERY in depth and should be able to answer every question that you might have. Also, if you haven't done bodywork before you might should take it to a bodyshop. Just to avoid the whole "Oh shit, what have I done to my car?!" speech.

Matej · 08-14-2007, 12:55 AM

Rivets look the coolest.

Dousan_PG · 08-14-2007, 12:57 AM

wide fendres are easy
welder
plasma cutter
rivet gun and propane torch and hammer is about all you need
takes a few hours to do it right

i want to mold my rear wides in
looks sooo fucking awesome when its smooth amd molded
but alas, no cash
and it will crack due to regular track events.

3-240's-N-aMule · 08-14-2007, 02:12 AM

Here ya go my good man. Dont know if i can post a walk through from other 240 sites but o well! Complete rear widebody install.
http://nismokc.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3483

fromxtor · 08-14-2007, 09:23 AM

^^ Thats a good write up...but this picture scares me. I don't like the possibility of the extra fender skin cutting into a tire.

colombian240sx · 08-14-2007, 10:23 AM

thanks guy it was a lot of help!!!!

Esteban.

Dousan_PG · 08-14-2007, 11:29 AM

ugh nice write up
but you cut those fenders waaay too low
i cut mine like at least 1+ inch ABOVE the body line

3-240's-N-aMule · 08-15-2007, 03:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dousan_PG

ugh nice write up
but you cut those fenders waaay too low
i cut mine like at least 1+ inch ABOVE the body line

I figure if u cut too much of the rear away, you lose a good bit of structural integrity in the rear which would make the ass of it more flimsy and flexible. Also i dont think you could slam it that low if you're runnin correct size wheels (18inch and larger and hella wide) on widebody to warrant a reason for cutting so far up. Unless you run over an elephant and you dont have coils, you're wheel shouldnt travel that high and outwards to slice your tire. I could be wrong though.

atom · 08-15-2007, 03:57 AM

In that writeup the guy did cut above the body line? He just cut it real low at first to split the panels then riveted the inner panel up higher, then lastly he chopped the rest off. 10th pic down you can see he chopped the rest of it off after riveting.

Dousan_PG · 08-15-2007, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3-240's-N-aMule

I figure if u cut too much of the rear away, you lose a good bit of structural integrity in the rear which would make the ass of it more flimsy and flexible. Also i dont think you could slam it that low if you're runnin correct size wheels (18inch and larger and hella wide) on widebody to warrant a reason for cutting so far up. Unless you run over an elephant and you dont have coils, you're wheel shouldnt travel that high and outwards to slice your tire. I could be wrong though.

yes you are wrong
haha

shit NEEDS to be wide and low
WIDE AND LOW
18" wheels . 245 tires
soft rear suspension, mega grip minimal camber.
gotta cut above that line. u can see how much it tucks under this compression.

flimsly? how so? its not the chassis, its thin metal. its not structural at all.
dont fool yourself.

but i guess if u dont do track events and stuff, then meh. whatever.

hellion240sx · 08-15-2007, 11:56 AM

dousan, i'm surprised you didn't have the tire going inside your car? what are you running? awesome pic btw.

Dousan_PG · 08-15-2007, 11:58 AM

suspenion? stance GR+ 7kg rear
fenders are origin 30mm
work done by me and lindsay
mig welder
hammer
time
plasma cutter
propane torch
and rivits and drill
thats all u need

Behind Horizon · 08-18-2007, 03:12 AM

I'm going to cut my old rear fenders and going widebody in the next few days also. However it would be nice if someone could post some pictures of a S13 hatch where this job had been done properly. I'm especially looking after pictures of the cutting job, as i don't know how high i should cut. Thanks in advance.

Bushido · 08-18-2007, 09:39 AM

1 inch above the body line.

Behind Horizon · 08-18-2007, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S30Z Bushido

1 inch above the body line.

Sorry but i can't imagine where the "body line" is located.

Not my car but i think it is still too low ?

**ThatGuy** · 08-18-2007, 01:55 PM

See the line running through the middle of the gas cap?

The "line" on the "body"?

Yeah, that one. That's the "body line".

Behind Horizon · 08-18-2007, 02:30 PM

Alright as we all know what the body line is now i think that 1" above the body line is be a bit too high? I think if i'll cut up to that body line it should be enough space, or am i wrong ?

OptionZero · 08-18-2007, 02:37 PM

read the thread again

it is not too high

Matej · 08-18-2007, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Behind Horizon

Alright as we all know what the body line is now i think that 1" above the body line is be a bit too high?

Don't worry, you can go way higher than that, you can pretty much cut off almost the entire panel as long as you leave enough to attach the overfender to. Less quarter panel = less metal to rust, haha.

Dousan_PG · 08-20-2007, 01:13 AM

dont ask if you wont take the advice

1" above
no less
more is ok

Behind Horizon · 08-20-2007, 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dousan_PG

dont ask if you wont take the advice

1" above
no less
more is ok

Why i wouldn't take advice, i already cut my fender now and i think i cut 2" above. Thanks for the help guys.

seiyess · 08-20-2007, 01:30 PM

yeah~ cut it up as much as you want!!
it's all thin metal anyways.
i think it depends on what kind of looks and set up u want.
rough rugged battle look ----> rivets!
smooth clean look----> cover them with filler, bondo and all the good stuff.
and i would say cut the fender as much as you can. then you can go low as you want if you want it lower after. you are going to cover it with wider fenders anyways.

Behind Horizon · 08-21-2007, 01:52 AM

Thats how we did it, the fenders will be cleaned, primed and sprayed soon also, i think i wouln't cut any higher, maybe i would cut 1/2inch lower next time:

420sx · 08-21-2007, 05:40 AM

that actually looks pretty clean. im guessing u tacked the skin and the cut off the rest.

did u seam weld just the rear wheel well or you got everything else too?

Behind Horizon · 08-21-2007, 12:49 PM

Yeah i seam welded the rear arches from the inside, i also drilled holes and then spot welded it where it is possible.

08-14-2007, 12:05 AM	#1
colombian240sx Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DFW Posts: 74 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	whats the best way to install wide rear fenders??? well guys im about to put my rear wheels that are 11.5 wide, and thats why i have to install my rear wide fenders, but i don't know whats the best way to do it, so if you know whats the best way, or you have any suggestions please lend me know. thanks.

08-14-2007, 12:13 AM	#2
RPS13FREAK Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2005 Location: Covina, CA Posts: 495 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	19.5 inches WIDE?! WHOA __________________ SHIFT_zilvia

08-14-2007, 12:57 AM	#8
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 42 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	wide fendres are easy welder plasma cutter rivet gun and propane torch and hammer is about all you need takes a few hours to do it right i want to mold my rear wides in looks sooo fucking awesome when its smooth amd molded but alas, no cash and it will crack due to regular track events. __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

08-14-2007, 09:23 AM	#10
fromxtor Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: NC Age: 40 Posts: 3,012 Trader Rating: (23) Feedback Score: 23 reviews	^^ Thats a good write up...but this picture scares me. I don't like the possibility of the extra fender skin cutting into a tire. __________________ Seller feedback>>http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.p...light=fromxtor

08-14-2007, 11:29 AM	#12
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 42 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	ugh nice write up but you cut those fenders waaay too low i cut mine like at least 1+ inch ABOVE the body line __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

08-14-2007, 12:20 AM	#3
Phoenix_95 Leaky Injector Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Greenbrier TN Age: 36 Posts: 133 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Wurd...you much have gotten those from A Spec lol. Thats like 18 feet worth of lip

08-14-2007, 12:22 AM	#5
colombian240sx Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DFW Posts: 74 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	the wide its 11.5

08-14-2007, 12:33 AM	#6
Phoenix_95 Leaky Injector Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Greenbrier TN Age: 36 Posts: 133 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Well, there are several FAQs on zilvia from various other people that went widebody. If you just search for them...I know there is at least 1 that is VERY in depth and should be able to answer every question that you might have. Also, if you haven't done bodywork before you might should take it to a bodyshop. Just to avoid the whole "Oh shit, what have I done to my car?!" speech.

08-14-2007, 12:55 AM	#7
Matej Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: N/A Posts: 9,423 Trader Rating: (39) Feedback Score: 39 reviews	Rivets look the coolest.

08-14-2007, 02:12 AM	#9
3-240's-N-aMule Zilvia Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: earf Age: 36 Posts: 201 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Here ya go my good man. Dont know if i can post a walk through from other 240 sites but o well! Complete rear widebody install. http://nismokc.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3483

08-14-2007, 10:23 AM	#11
colombian240sx Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DFW Posts: 74 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	thanks guy it was a lot of help!!!! Esteban.

08-15-2007, 03:57 AM	#14
atom Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: San Francisco Posts: 1,196 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	In that writeup the guy did cut above the body line? He just cut it real low at first to split the panels then riveted the inner panel up higher, then lastly he chopped the rest off. 10th pic down you can see he chopped the rest of it off after riveting.

08-15-2007, 11:56 AM	#16
hellion240sx Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: NOLA Age: 40 Posts: 1,509 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	dousan, i'm surprised you didn't have the tire going inside your car? what are you running? awesome pic btw.

08-15-2007, 11:58 AM	#17
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 42 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	suspenion? stance GR+ 7kg rear fenders are origin 30mm work done by me and lindsay mig welder hammer time plasma cutter propane torch and rivits and drill thats all u need __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

08-18-2007, 03:12 AM	#18
Behind Horizon Zilvia Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Germany / Black Forest Posts: 164 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I'm going to cut my old rear fenders and going widebody in the next few days also. However it would be nice if someone could post some pictures of a S13 hatch where this job had been done properly. I'm especially looking after pictures of the cutting job, as i don't know how high i should cut. Thanks in advance.

08-18-2007, 09:39 AM	#19
Bushido Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: SFL Posts: 3,562 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	1 inch above the body line. __________________

08-18-2007, 01:55 PM	#21
ThatGuy Admin Asshole Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Retired Age: 41 Posts: 20,394 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: ThatGuy Feedback Score: 0 reviews	See the line running through the middle of the gas cap? The "line" on the "body"? Yeah, that one. That's the "body line". __________________ "Speak softly,..." -Pres. Teddy Roosevelt "Be polite, be professional, ..." -Gen. James Mattis

08-18-2007, 02:30 PM	#22
Behind Horizon Zilvia Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Germany / Black Forest Posts: 164 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Alright as we all know what the body line is now i think that 1" above the body line is be a bit too high? I think if i'll cut up to that body line it should be enough space, or am i wrong ?

08-18-2007, 02:37 PM	#23
OptionZero Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Norcal Age: 37 Posts: 6,262 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: OptionZero Feedback Score: 2 reviews	read the thread again it is not too high

08-20-2007, 01:13 AM	#25
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 42 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	dont ask if you wont take the advice 1" above no less more is ok __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

08-20-2007, 01:30 PM	#27
seiyess Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: S.Cali Age: 42 Posts: 414 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yeah~ cut it up as much as you want!! it's all thin metal anyways. i think it depends on what kind of looks and set up u want. rough rugged battle look ----> rivets! smooth clean look----> cover them with filler, bondo and all the good stuff. and i would say cut the fender as much as you can. then you can go low as you want if you want it lower after. you are going to cover it with wider fenders anyways.

08-21-2007, 01:52 AM	#28
Behind Horizon Zilvia Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Germany / Black Forest Posts: 164 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Thats how we did it, the fenders will be cleaned, primed and sprayed soon also, i think i wouln't cut any higher, maybe i would cut 1/2inch lower next time:

08-21-2007, 05:40 AM	#29
420sx Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Texas Age: 38 Posts: 3,960 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: 420sx Feedback Score: 0 reviews	that actually looks pretty clean. im guessing u tacked the skin and the cut off the rest. did u seam weld just the rear wheel well or you got everything else too? __________________ hydropgrahics! ls1......

08-21-2007, 12:49 PM	#30
Behind Horizon Zilvia Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Germany / Black Forest Posts: 164 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yeah i seam welded the rear arches from the inside, i also drilled holes and then spot welded it where it is possible.

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