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TAMTANIUM · 07-13-2005, 12:50 AM

I need people that changed their subframe bushings before. What are your recommendation on subframe bushings brand..what are some out there that you guys like?

Any tips on doing it at home?

thanks.

180InProgress · 07-13-2005, 01:03 AM

Well, I didn't quite change my subframe bushings, but rather got subrame bushing collars. They're SPL, silver/aluminum, and stiffen up my rear suspension a lot. Ther ride is rougher but I have feel for the road and great control, less bounce and no shake around the corners. Could think about investing in those, 30 minute install and less than $70. Just need a jack set, good breaker bar and 17mm/19mm sockets.

sLip techniques · 07-13-2005, 01:04 AM

i got mine from ebay, they work good...and its not that hard to do it at home. just get some jackstands, jack, and proper tools for ubolting and your good.

and a friend to help will make it easier

that180guy · 07-13-2005, 01:20 AM

hrmm...anybody hav a feel with the solid aluminum spl ones?
i kinda want em....but i feel that they will be insane, anybody with some feed back on em?

TAMTANIUM · 07-13-2005, 01:25 AM

i know what you guys are talking about, subframe spacers right? but i'm changing bushings for now. Subframe spacers go after.

Dousan_PG · 07-13-2005, 01:26 AM

you dont need subframe spacers after bushings are done. wont fit too

anyways iw as going to do solid bushings but i went spacers too , even w/ an extra subframe. talke dw/ some friends and drifters and recommended passing on it for my seutp. so i ewnt that route. got solid rear bushings (s14 subframe) so thats about it. used spacers

i got SPL rear ones

i would only get SPLparts.com subframe solid bushings if i was though, almost did.

TAMTANIUM · 07-13-2005, 01:37 AM

Dousan PG you got me all confused

Do i still need to change my bushings? or get Subframe bushing collars but not bushings?

sorry for asking you questions...and thanks a lot for helping me out.

Dousan_PG · 07-13-2005, 01:42 AM

get collars/spacers and you keep stock bushings in there (easiest route)
get solid bushings dont need collars (more time consuming/expensive)

splparts.com
read up bro.

drftwerks · 07-13-2005, 01:49 AM

ill be getting the solids soon, since i have extra subframe, ill let you know asap

scir16v · 07-13-2005, 02:17 AM

I love the sh*t out of the spl parts subframe bushings. The rear end use to feel all disconnected, and I could feel shift around. Especially when taking off from stop signs. The rear would feel like it's shifting to the right on regular takeoffs.

Since I got the bushings, I feel the rear is more planted, and doesn't wheel hop.

I have noticed a slight increase in noise. I can hear the r/p meshing, and I can hear some gear whine from the trans in the rear end. But it's not over-bearing, or annoying. The exhaust, radio, road noise, and engine noise all cover it up.

TAMTANIUM · 07-13-2005, 06:20 PM

is it worth buying this SPL replica? one member is selling it to me.

projectRDM · 07-13-2005, 06:59 PM

ES sells urethane if you're concerned about noise, and JWT sells Delrin bushings that are midway between the two.

Dousan_PG · 07-13-2005, 07:06 PM

SPL said on website their prev version isnt as good as their nwe one?? and avoid cheap copies
i'd buy spl direct, they support their products 100%!

JDMs13 · 07-13-2005, 07:48 PM

Get on ebay and buy some solid aluminum inserts. Put them in the freezer for a night, get a big hammer and smash away. The insert looks like it will never fit, but it does. The factory bushing can be a bitch to get out, I used an air chisel and demolished them. Solid inserts are the way to go, they feel so much better than anything else.

ranisron · 07-13-2005, 07:52 PM

SPL subframe spacers are good... That's the first suspension mod I've done to my car... I used to get a lot of rear-end play, now it is pretty solid.... (not to the level I want it to be...)

drftwerks · 07-13-2005, 07:54 PM

i jsut orderd them, ill let you know how they are.

projectRDM · 07-13-2005, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dousan_PG

SPL said on website their prev version isnt as good as their nwe one?? and avoid cheap copies
i'd buy spl direct, they support their products 100%!

True, but it's damn hard to screw up a hockey puck of aluminum. I'd see if it was a complex machine or had working or assembled parts, but a subframe bushing isn't any of those.

TAMTANIUM · 07-13-2005, 10:22 PM

anybody use LS subframe bushings? let me know their quality

Drunk Bastard · 07-14-2005, 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by that180guy

hrmm...anybody hav a feel with the solid aluminum spl ones?
i kinda want em....but i feel that they will be insane, anybody with some feed back on em?

basically, i didnt really notice a difference when i put the subframe spacers in. i searched and read that "hella" (yes, i AM from norcal, deal with it) ppl put them on and noticed a HUGE difference....well i think those ppl had either stock suspension or atleast some cheap ass struts (like tokico hp's). here's a run down, i noticed LITTLE to NO difference with them after coilovers and other suspension mods. if you are under the impression that this is the end-all of all cheap ass mods, then you sir are mistaken.

my impressions = waste of $80 plus your own 20 min of labor. pm me with problemsz

that180guy · 07-14-2005, 02:41 AM

joe: alotta ppl seem to notice the spacers. even xander said he felt a huge ass differnce, and i know guys with decent set ups that swear its one of the best mods to em. ill still pick up a set regardless,
200k bushings on my car....tryin to rid em all out, but dont wanna deal with the pulling of the subframe, etc yet.

SochBAT · 07-14-2005, 04:59 AM

Get those BUSHINGS!!! I remembered somewhere here someone was saying the bushings are adjustable, but thats balogna! the only way i see them as 'adjustable' would be interchanging spacers/bushings n stuff.

We all learned our first time that Stiff = Better!

drftwerks · 07-23-2005, 01:24 PM

well i got the aluminum ones in, from spl, and in about a week ill let you know how it is, but im going to be putting them on as well as coilovers, ruca, tesion rods, and exhaust, so i dont know how ill be able to rate them.

HyperTek · 07-23-2005, 02:57 PM

when i replaced my subframe, i filled the stock ones with polyurathane, and ran my subframe collars with it.. I unfortinutly dont track or drive my car hard enough to tell the difference from when i just had collars on my old subframe..

heres pics of what can be filled..

Twisting with a screwdriver

I dont think its worth pulling your subframe if you dont need to.

Jbma327 · 05-23-2008, 01:03 AM

Planning to poly fill my subframe bushing with my solid subframe collars sometime this weekend. Hope it comes out good.

Any feedback or results from anybody that has done this?

Thxz

TCtrackrunner · 05-23-2008, 01:43 AM

It is a PITA but I think it was worth it. I put in 300zx subframe bushings and they went in with easily. Get a friend to help you out with it(I wish I did for the first half). But after doing this the car had better response and the noise in the rear stoped.

vespaman · 05-23-2008, 02:33 AM

what about the urethane one from peak perfomance?
is it better than the aluminum?

Style · 05-23-2008, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drunk Bastard

basically, i didnt really notice a difference when i put the subframe spacers in. i searched and read that "hella" (yes, i AM from norcal, deal with it) ppl put them on and noticed a HUGE difference....well i think those ppl had either stock suspension or atleast some cheap ass struts (like tokico hp's). here's a run down, i noticed LITTLE to NO difference with them after coilovers and other suspension mods. if you are under the impression that this is the end-all of all cheap ass mods, then you sir are mistaken.

my impressions = waste of $80 plus your own 20 min of labor. pm me with problemsz

I agree with you, when i put my subframe collars on my car (stock suspension, stock everything) all it did was make noise. id say it was a little stiffer but just a tad and it made alot of noise when you go in reverse. so now i have Stance GR+pro and spl ruca, toe, tension, ats diff and the collars and i guess my car is stiff but its still not where i want it, next im going to go spl solids.

Devil Man · 05-23-2008, 10:10 AM

i went nismo but havent driven the car yet. all i do know is that you stick them in the frezzer before you are going to do the job helps them slip in a bit easier. gl

bigOdom1 · 05-23-2008, 10:19 AM

i have the spl solid subframe and diff bushings. they dont bother me at all now but they definitely are loud. you got a bitchy female that rides with you or you just dont want the noise then dont get them. if you can deal with the noise i say go for it. you get to burn shit, use a sawzall, and a BFH what could go better with a six pack in the heat

rightcoastimports · 06-27-2008, 04:37 PM

just curious if theres a better solution than dropping the subframe.. i've had the aluminum spacers now for a while but the rubber buishings are making all kinds of noise..

07-13-2005, 12:50 AM	#1
TAMTANIUM Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Socal. wc Age: 34 Posts: 1,022 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Subframe bushings I need people that changed their subframe bushings before. What are your recommendation on subframe bushings brand..what are some out there that you guys like? Any tips on doing it at home? thanks.

07-13-2005, 01:04 AM	#3
sLip techniques Zilvia Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: So Cal Posts: 292 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i got mine from ebay, they work good...and its not that hard to do it at home. just get some jackstands, jack, and proper tools for ubolting and your good. and a friend to help will make it easier __________________ people on Zilvia need a big ol

07-13-2005, 01:20 AM	#4
that180guy Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: EaStO BaYo Age: 35 Posts: 968 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	hrmm...anybody hav a feel with the solid aluminum spl ones? i kinda want em....but i feel that they will be insane, anybody with some feed back on em? __________________ LP stylez!! bishes Lazy Penguin since teh 04' Part of the Elite Shasta Speed Stars RIP......05-09-03....sniff sniff the beast nears completion..... YOU LOOK AND U BUY STUFF !!!!!*

07-13-2005, 01:26 AM	#6
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 42 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	you dont need subframe spacers after bushings are done. wont fit too anyways iw as going to do solid bushings but i went spacers too , even w/ an extra subframe. talke dw/ some friends and drifters and recommended passing on it for my seutp. so i ewnt that route. got solid rear bushings (s14 subframe) so thats about it. used spacers i got SPL rear ones i would only get SPLparts.com subframe solid bushings if i was though, almost did. __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

07-13-2005, 01:42 AM	#8
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 42 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	get collars/spacers and you keep stock bushings in there (easiest route) get solid bushings dont need collars (more time consuming/expensive) splparts.com read up bro. __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

07-13-2005, 01:03 AM	#2
180InProgress Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 80 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Well, I didn't quite change my subframe bushings, but rather got subrame bushing collars. They're SPL, silver/aluminum, and stiffen up my rear suspension a lot. Ther ride is rougher but I have feel for the road and great control, less bounce and no shake around the corners. Could think about investing in those, 30 minute install and less than $70. Just need a jack set, good breaker bar and 17mm/19mm sockets.

07-13-2005, 01:25 AM	#5
TAMTANIUM Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Socal. wc Age: 34 Posts: 1,022 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	i know what you guys are talking about, subframe spacers right? but i'm changing bushings for now. Subframe spacers go after.

07-13-2005, 01:37 AM	#7
TAMTANIUM Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Socal. wc Age: 34 Posts: 1,022 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Dousan PG you got me all confused Do i still need to change my bushings? or get Subframe bushing collars but not bushings? sorry for asking you questions...and thanks a lot for helping me out.

07-13-2005, 01:49 AM	#9
drftwerks Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: california Posts: 2,343 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	ill be getting the solids soon, since i have extra subframe, ill let you know asap __________________ giantroboteyes.wordpress.com/

07-13-2005, 02:17 AM	#10
scir16v Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: St. Louis Posts: 171 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I love the sh*t out of the spl parts subframe bushings. The rear end use to feel all disconnected, and I could feel shift around. Especially when taking off from stop signs. The rear would feel like it's shifting to the right on regular takeoffs. Since I got the bushings, I feel the rear is more planted, and doesn't wheel hop. I have noticed a slight increase in noise. I can hear the r/p meshing, and I can hear some gear whine from the trans in the rear end. But it's not over-bearing, or annoying. The exhaust, radio, road noise, and engine noise all cover it up. __________________ Scott Driving Angle Motorsports

07-13-2005, 06:20 PM	#11
TAMTANIUM Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Socal. wc Age: 34 Posts: 1,022 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	is it worth buying this SPL replica? one member is selling it to me.

07-13-2005, 06:59 PM	#12
projectRDM Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Atlanta Age: 47 Posts: 13,812 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	ES sells urethane if you're concerned about noise, and JWT sells Delrin bushings that are midway between the two. __________________ FORMERLY R240NA Learn what's really going on and protect your assets now before they're gone forever: www.paypalsucks.com

07-13-2005, 07:06 PM	#13
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 42 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	SPL said on website their prev version isnt as good as their nwe one?? and avoid cheap copies i'd buy spl direct, they support their products 100%! __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

07-13-2005, 07:48 PM	#14
JDMs13 BANNED Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: New England Age: 37 Posts: 271 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Get on ebay and buy some solid aluminum inserts. Put them in the freezer for a night, get a big hammer and smash away. The insert looks like it will never fit, but it does. The factory bushing can be a bitch to get out, I used an air chisel and demolished them. Solid inserts are the way to go, they feel so much better than anything else.

07-13-2005, 07:52 PM	#15
ranisron Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Bloomington, IN Age: 39 Posts: 766 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	SPL subframe spacers are good... That's the first suspension mod I've done to my car... I used to get a lot of rear-end play, now it is pretty solid.... (not to the level I want it to be...) __________________ U13 and S13 zilvia members are friendly

07-13-2005, 07:54 PM	#16
drftwerks Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: california Posts: 2,343 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	i jsut orderd them, ill let you know how they are. __________________ giantroboteyes.wordpress.com/

07-13-2005, 10:22 PM	#18
TAMTANIUM Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Socal. wc Age: 34 Posts: 1,022 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	anybody use LS subframe bushings? let me know their quality Last edited by TAMTANIUM; 07-14-2005 at 12:18 AM.. Reason: bushings not spacers

07-14-2005, 02:41 AM	#20
that180guy Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: EaStO BaYo Age: 35 Posts: 968 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	joe: alotta ppl seem to notice the spacers. even xander said he felt a huge ass differnce, and i know guys with decent set ups that swear its one of the best mods to em. ill still pick up a set regardless, 200k bushings on my car....tryin to rid em all out, but dont wanna deal with the pulling of the subframe, etc yet. __________________ LP stylez!! bishes Lazy Penguin since teh 04' Part of the Elite Shasta Speed Stars RIP......05-09-03....sniff sniff the beast nears completion..... YOU LOOK AND U BUY STUFF !!!!!*

07-14-2005, 04:59 AM	#21
SochBAT Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Abilene, TX Age: 35 Posts: 6,428 Trader Rating: (9) Rides Gallery: SochBAT Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Get those BUSHINGS!!! I remembered somewhere here someone was saying the bushings are adjustable, but thats balogna! the only way i see them as 'adjustable' would be interchanging spacers/bushings n stuff. We all learned our first time that Stiff = Better!

07-23-2005, 01:24 PM	#22
drftwerks Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: california Posts: 2,343 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	well i got the aluminum ones in, from spl, and in about a week ill let you know how it is, but im going to be putting them on as well as coilovers, ruca, tesion rods, and exhaust, so i dont know how ill be able to rate them. __________________ giantroboteyes.wordpress.com/

07-23-2005, 02:57 PM	#23
HyperTek Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 13,222 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	when i replaced my subframe, i filled the stock ones with polyurathane, and ran my subframe collars with it.. I unfortinutly dont track or drive my car hard enough to tell the difference from when i just had collars on my old subframe.. heres pics of what can be filled.. Twisting with a screwdriver I dont think its worth pulling your subframe if you dont need to. __________________ Keep it Classy

05-23-2008, 01:03 AM	#24
Jbma327 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: SIX-2-SIX Posts: 1,153 Trader Rating: (51) Rides Gallery: Jbma327 Feedback Score: 51 reviews	Planning to poly fill my subframe bushing with my solid subframe collars sometime this weekend. Hope it comes out good. Any feedback or results from anybody that has done this? Thxz __________________ KEEPIN IT REAL!

05-23-2008, 01:43 AM	#25
TCtrackrunner Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Texas Age: 34 Posts: 88 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	It is a PITA but I think it was worth it. I put in 300zx subframe bushings and they went in with easily. Get a friend to help you out with it(I wish I did for the first half). But after doing this the car had better response and the noise in the rear stoped.

05-23-2008, 02:33 AM	#26
vespaman Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: California Posts: 777 Trader Rating: (64) Rides Gallery: vespaman Feedback Score: 64 reviews	what about the urethane one from peak perfomance? is it better than the aluminum?

05-23-2008, 10:10 AM	#28
Devil Man Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: hell Posts: 357 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i went nismo but havent driven the car yet. all i do know is that you stick them in the frezzer before you are going to do the job helps them slip in a bit easier. gl

05-23-2008, 10:19 AM	#29
bigOdom1 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Auburn/Birmingham AL Age: 37 Posts: 1,817 Trader Rating: (4) Rides Gallery: bigOdom1 Feedback Score: 4 reviews	i have the spl solid subframe and diff bushings. they dont bother me at all now but they definitely are loud. you got a bitchy female that rides with you or you just dont want the noise then dont get them. if you can deal with the noise i say go for it. you get to burn shit, use a sawzall, and a BFH what could go better with a six pack in the heat __________________ my car domain that good review thread

06-27-2008, 04:37 PM	#30
rightcoastimports Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Boston Area Age: 36 Posts: 663 Trader Rating: (15) Feedback Score: 15 reviews	just curious if theres a better solution than dropping the subframe.. i've had the aluminum spacers now for a while but the rubber buishings are making all kinds of noise.. __________________ 95 SR Zenki \| @ e_form daily - A34 Maxima \| A36 Maxima

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