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Why would you want to keep the use of your sensor on your high pressure power steering setup??


Here's why!


Check out our high pressure power steering setup with our patented distribution block to retain the use of the stock sensor along with our other products at:
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S13x88

Are there any plans to sell that distribution block? My sensor is fine and I still have some left over braided hose. All I would need are the fittings.

GeneStarWindGSW

x2, interested in the distribution block as well

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Wake

Signs me up for a distribution block too. Lol

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fullthrottle

So this idle up is going to help my steering while im bouncing my car off the rev limited? Maybe i dont understand.

snafupossum

You'r not always going to be bouncing off your rev limiter at full lock.

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DavidEspiau

That's a clean looking little setup ya got there. How much?

dkim1985

also interested in just the block. how much?

i have the chasebays powersteering setup. would the block be compatible with that?

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iamtheyi

lol I must be retarded because I read it four times and still don't get it. Can someone tell me what this is in layman's terms?

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DavidEspiau

It's just saying that we should keep the sensor so our cars won't bog down at full lock when our rpms are low. Basically this sensor sends a signal to bump up the idle during full lock to reduce strain on the motor.

Thorough Concepts, LLC

(Thats the closest I could find to a thumbs up lol) And that is exactly right. I should have added a brief explanation which is my bad.

Thorough Concepts, LLC

To everybody looking to buy the sensor and the fittings, YES! We will be selling just the power steering block and appropriate fittings. In fact we're going to go ahead to get it done extra quick based on the interest in this thread. When we do (which should be within the next couple of days) we'll be posting both back on this thread, as well as on the front page of zilvia.

Thorough Concepts, LLC

To my knowledge it is not directly compatible (we will certainly look further into it), however as with anything, it comes down to hose lengths, fittings, and ends.

If anybody has already tried tweeking their Chase Bays setup to be compatible with ours let us know what you find!

NOTE: to my knowledge the Chase Bays kit is simply a replacement setup with an aluminum reservoir and not a full high pressure system (see here). Our system is a full high pressure setup using all stainless steel braided, teflon inner coated lines as well as high pressure fittings with o-rings and all appropriate fittings are pre-installed with teflon paste into the distribution block to the correct torque specifications. We also test-fit all setups before shipment to triple check quality and fitment.

Thorough Concepts, LLC

We're currently selling the full base setup for $219.99 on our retail store here.

You can check out more details and pics here!

hOngsterr

you should have the option to not run it also, maybe more people would jump on it.

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S13x88

Awesome! Thanks a bunch, I thought I was the only one :P

INeedNewTires

would a PowerFC or AEM EMS take the sensor into account? do they even see it? do they care?

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Thorough Concepts, LLC

Basically any vehicle specific, plug and play system should account for all factory sensors unless configured otherwise i.e. race applications.

matts13vert

I hope you realize that this block is useless for anything other than having the OEM idle bump. It will not affect anything when the throttle is open i.e. normal driving, time attack, drift, whatever it may be.

Most small 4 cylinder engines do not produce enough power at idle to compensate for the power loss caused by the pump which is why that sensor is there, it bumps IDLE speed to keep the engine from bogging down/stalling.

Its the same reason the idle is bumped up when you engage the A/C the compressor.

Only situation i see this being functional is if your off throttle long enough for the engine to come down to an idle, and car is at full lock.

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Thorough Concepts, LLC

You are absolutely correct in the function of the sensor! That is indeed exactly what it does. Which, as you stated, is very useful in situations when "your off the throttle long enough for the engine to come down to an idle, and the car is at full lock".

When would such a situation occur?
1) Downshifting or e-braking in drift/competition scenarios. You would be in a little bit of trouble, for ex., if your car died going into the downhill section of horse thief at our upcoming competition! (June 2nd AND 3rd, signup here!)
2) Parallel parking during everyday street driving. Not everybody's car is purely for competition and they may be fine with deleting the sensor for their track car (which we do NOT recommend) but it's certainly a useful thing to have on a daily driver as well.

You are correct in the idle being bumped for the A/C which at the fundamental level is an accurate comparison. But people should remember that although the function (of bumping the idle) is the same, the load types are different. The A/C being a constant load, and one that is generally not seen on the track. (Not arguing with your comparison, just adding a note for readers)

Additional benefits of our system and would be the actual position of our High Pressure lines. We route them the same as the OEM lines which serves multiple functions:
1) Keeps the lines cooler than other systems that delete the sensor and run the lines close to the exhaust (additionally we thermal sleeve the line for a bit of added protection)
2) Longer lines result in cooler fluid. It can be argued how much cooler, but cooler nonetheless.

Thanks for helping us educate readers about our product and how it functions

Additional details can be found on our website here! And be sure to check out our retail store here! where you can both purchase product AND signup for our upcoming event. Hope to see you out there!

Sugoi_Style

That was thoroughly indepth, thanks Matt and TC LLC.

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Ask and you shall receive! We have now listed for sale our patented distribution block with fittings and all necessary hardware for $62.99!

Buy it HERE!


NOTE: photograph is shown with optional stainless steel lines + optional OEM sensor. These are not included in this newly listed product.

We'll be posting this great news on the zilvia front page shortly.

hOngsterr

so are you guys thinking of making some without the sensor?

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Thorough Concepts, LLC

Yea in the sense that we'll sell the block and the lines separately, but as of now we don't have plans to sell a setup of lines that delete the sensor. There are plenty of companies out there selling that and we believe in our product. We may revisit the idea if we find additional ways in which we can improve upon what's currently out there on the market, that's just who we are and what we do! If we're gonna make something, then it has to be the best out there no matter what it is.

hellion240sx

did anyone find out if this is compatible with the chase bays power steering set up?

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dkim1985

i would like to know this too.
tc, i couldn't find fitting sizes on your website.
chasebays hp fittings are -6AN.

i have the chasebays kit..but would like to include this block.
looks like someone in my position would need the block and an extra line(?)

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Wake

It should work with chasebays, given you have the right fittings.

This isnt rocket science people.

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dkim1985

^not helping
obviously it will work with the right fittings, which is what we're trying to find out.

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Thorough Concepts, LLC

Hi all,

The fittings (line side) are dash 6AN.

In response dkim1985, yes you would need another line in order to incorporate the block into the existing chase bays setup.

Thanks for the interest and apologies for the late response!

hellion240sx

Basically you need tyhis to work with the cb kiy correct?

HPPS Setup for Nissan 240sx '91-'02 + Power Steering Rack Bushings

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