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Old 01-08-2008, 05:55 PM   #31
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I'm a fan. The interior looks very nice and actually surprised me when i first saw the pic.

Considering how complicated the iDrive is in the M5, the simplicity of the CTS-V would probably win me over.
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Damn car looks good. The interior is badass.
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I love it, but... More panties will get thrown at an M5.
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i really like the interior, and how the car looks, ahhh another beast on the road!
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that is very nice. always liked the CTS.
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sorry exit, usually i agree, but i could care less about awards. as mechanic i hate caddies in general always have. sure, itll be fucking badass to drive, but working on it will suck ass.
same argument can be made against current BMWs, Benzes, Lexus, etc etc.
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same argument can be made against current BMWs, Benzes, Lexus, etc etc.
and i hate BMWs and Benzes. lol
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http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/au...illacctsv01500

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DAMN, this thing is nice.
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Shut your mouth young whippersnapper. In my day, drivers drove their cars, they didn't let their cars drive themselves.
All this newfangled technology is the bane of modern society.
Pretty soon the act of driving will be considered illegal.
Now back when cars were cars, here's a real man's caddy!
Cadillac V16. Had over 100HP!
Now listen up young man, a ravishing young lady would shuck her bloomers to the dapper gent that would pick her up in this fine motorcar!


But now we have all this newfangled stuff like air conditioning and radios actually mounted in the cars!! What's the world coming to?
Yuri, shows a classic. New Caddy? Eh I have always felt the lines were too squared on the CTS. Though I do applaud GM for trying to do Caddy's right. Not my cup of Tea and I will also probably opt for the BMW instead.

P.S. Yuri sig catch line cracks me up. If your referring to the GTR transmisions its not your Dads Manumatic. LOL.
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Old 01-09-2008, 11:26 AM   #41
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no joke about lexus. $400 to replace a cable in the steering column.

I actually kinda like this car, and i'm not a huge caddy fan or even american cars in general.

what's the price point gonna be like? I know the M5 is 100k+
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Old 01-09-2008, 12:01 PM   #42
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Well the previous one was about $50,000.

I'd expect this one to climb to about the $65k price at least. GM's been all about bang for your buck lately.
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Old 01-09-2008, 12:50 PM   #43
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beautiful car man! i have a 2001 cts and i love IT!!!!!!!! some higher end modles come with a v8 vet engine
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damn, that's not a bad deal especially if it rivals the M5 in perforance, but only 2/3 the price.
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Old 01-09-2008, 02:24 PM   #45
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Depending on the price. I may have found my stepdads new car. He loved the old CTS-Vs and i know he will love this. but he would get an auto . I would still beat the shit out of it though.
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The onyl gripe I have about this car and the previous CTS is the fact that the e-brake is either a foot pedal or a button. Give me a yank e-brake please. It just totally kills the car for me.
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Old 01-11-2008, 12:27 AM   #48
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meh..... i don't dig it. i guess i'm just picky about domestics.
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If I can get it for under 60k... I'm definitely heading that way.
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It's a tough call, the new m3 might be under 60k. Less hp but a lot lighter (3571).
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It's a tough call, the new m3 might be under 60k. Less hp but a lot lighter (3571).

Comparing a coupe to a sedan is 'meh' IMO. Are you referring to the M3 sedan (still in testing)?
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Well soon enough the CTS Coupe will be out. GM is going to debute it this year.
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2 door and 4 door isn't that big of a difference. At least to me. I would cross shop them. The cts-v looks like it's going to be an animal.

I could easily see someone cross shopping

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I am looking at the dec 07 C&D right now and guess what the comparo was. c63 amg(4d), new M3(2d), and rs4(4d)... M3 won btw.
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2 door and 4 door isn't that big of a difference. At least to me. I would cross shop them. The cts-v looks like it's going to be an animal.

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I am looking at the dec 07 C&D right now and guess what the comparo was. c63 amg(4d), new M3(2d), and rs4(4d)... M3 won btw.
Read that article. M3 (3 series) always wins.

Stewing over these cars (RWD sport sedans) just made me think of something. Almost all the cars in that segment offer a performance version....EXCEPT Nissan/Infinity and the G35. I wonder if a high powered G35 is in the works???
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Hmm, what's different here?


Since when did Cady start taking cues from Mbenz, one of the few companies, of not the only one, I've encountered, that has a foot e-brake in their manuals, and from Jaguar and Audi, with Push button e-brake. Hell, even the manual Infinitis come with a hand brake instead of a foot brake like their automatic version.
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Well the previous one was about $50,000.

I'd expect this one to climb to about the $65k price at least. GM's been all about bang for your buck lately.
GM used to be a good deal with the 50k C5 Z06 and CTS-V. Their prices have gone up quite a bit since. I honestly don't see it coming any cheaper the $70k Z06. Right now, imo the Lexus IS-F at 55k or so seems like the best bargain. Meanwhile BMW's pricing have remained similar, and Audi is beginning to get their act together.

Edit...actually I think the E90 M3 @ $55k is the car to have. The Audi S5 (and the soon to be resdesigned S4 rumored to go back to b-turbo) is promising as well. Cadillac is gonna have some tough competition. All the better for potential customers like us!

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I wonder if a high powered G35 is in the works???
I wouldn't mind setting an N/A version of the VR38 stuffed into a G Sedan (or coupe).
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For those asking for a coupe! (like me)

Cadillac CTS Coupe Concept to debut later this morning
Hot off the wire is GM's surprise announcement that Cadillac will unveil a CTS Coupe Concept at its press conference later this morning. We've been expecting a CTS Coupe as part of the diversification of that model's offerings, and this concept should give us a great idea of what the probable production car will look like. Photos won't be released until closer to showtime, and we'll get them up as soon as they're released. Joining the CTS Coupe will be the Cadillac Myst, another hydrogen concept, and of course, you're already familiar with the CTS-V and Escalade Hybrid, which round out the Caddy contingent. Stay tuned for more.

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PRESS RELEASE:

CT COUPE CONCEPT CELEBRATES CADILLAC'S DESIGN RENAISSANCE

DETROIT – Having earned critical acclaim, industry awards and brisk sales, Cadillac CTS has moved into the vanguard of contemporary design. In doing so, Cadillac designers faced the question of what to do next. Their answer celebrates that design legacy with the exhilarating Cadillac CT Coupe Concept, which premiered at the 2008 North American International Auto Show.

The CT Coupe takes Cadillac's acclaimed Art and Science design language and adds more of both. More expressive, more technical and very personal, the CT Coupe extends the dramatic design of its sedan predecessor with all-new sculpted bodywork aft of the front fenders.

"The CT Coupe Concept is a dramatic design statement," said Ed Welburn, VP, GM Global Design. "We did not create it as the result of sifting through reams of market data, nor is its shape trimmed to suit the input collected at a consumer clinic – it is emotion on four wheels and the very essence of what defines Cadillac today."

The CT Coupe Concept has a classic 2+2 interior layout, highlighted by black leather and Alcantara microfiber trim that is complemented by yellow ochre-colored seat inserts and leather stitching. It is designed to accommodate a range of engines for the global luxury market, including Cadillac's popular 3.6L Direct Injection V-6, as well as a new 2.9L turbo-diesel currently in development.

"This Coupe Concept is a natural extension of our design language, and of the CTS itself," said Jim Taylor, Cadillac general manager. "Very simply, the dramatic design of the sedan begged the question of what it would look like in the unbridled form of a Coupe."

Generated from the spark of the CTS design team's imagination, the CT Coupe casts a profile unlike anything else on the road. Its fast-rake styling – it has the same wheelbase as the CTS, but an overall height that is approximately four inches (101 mm) shorter – blends with hand-sculpted bodywork that bulges around the wheels, giving the vehicle a ready-to-pounce stance that is dramatic, powerful and sleek.

"Just about every decade, Cadillac designs a breakthrough car that becomes synonymous with the brand's character of the period, such as the 1938 60 Special, the 1959 lineup, the 1975 Seville and the 2003 Sixteen Concept," said Clay Dean, global director of design, for Cadillac. "The CT Coupe Concept is the next great design, carrying the baton from the Evoq Concept that ushered in the Art and Science era in 1999."

A design gem

Among the CT Coupe Concept's signature design cues are a number of elements that suggest the look of a carefully cut diamond – particularly at the rear. These elements are seen in everything from the chrome header above the rear license plate holder to the indents that comprise the basic form of the rear fascia.

"The diamond-cut elements enhance the sleek profile of the car," said John Manoogian II, director of exterior design for Cadillac. "The CT Coupe uses the elements, along with other nods to classic Cadillac cues – such as vertical headlamps and taillamps – to acknowledge the brand's heritage without resorting to nostalgia. It is a forward-looking design in every sense of the term."

Although based on the sedan, the CT Coupe shares only the instrument panel, console, headlamps, front fenders and grille with the production model. Unique elements include:

* Classic hardtop styling, with no B-pillar
* CTS production windshield laid at a faster angle to create a sleeker profile
* Chrome, split seven-spoke wheel design; 20-inch front wheels and 21-inch rear wheels
* Sculpted lower front fascia with unique brake-cooling vents
* Slim-profile outside mirrors
* XLR-type hidden door handles with proximity remote opening
* Unique front fender vents
* Diamond-cut rear fascia with mesh lower grilles and center-outlet exhaust
* Taillamps with a subtle fin profile and are highlighted with LED lighting technology with light pipes
* Rear spoiler integrated into the center high-mounted stop lamp
* Sculpted roof-mounted antenna for OnStar, XM Satellite Radio, etc.

"The cliché is to say that there were no compromises in the design, but that is absolutely accurate in the case of the CT Coupe," said Manoogian. "Each line and angle of the bodywork was carefully honed, and the final design's proportions were judged by the eyes of the design team, not computer-generated math data."

The surfaces of CT Coupe Concept are complex, inviting careful inspection. The rear fenders, for example, were sculpted by hand in the design studio until they provided a perfect, muscular form that wrapped tightly over the wheels. At the top, the rear fenders are beveled – owing to the diamond-cut theme – and become part of a horizontal plane that runs from the leading edge of the taillamps and merges into the roof.

"At first glance, the design appears effectively simple, because there are no extraneous moldings, spoilers or other protrusions, but the more you look at it, the more complex it becomes," said Manoogian. "The angles and bevels were carefully carved to enhance the car's sleek shape, but aren't 'busy' or distracting – there's really nothing quite like it."

Personal passenger environment

A classic 2+2 interior environment enhances the CT Coupe's personal feel. It shares the hand cut-and-sewn instrument panel and center console with the CTS, but features unique front and rear seats, a continuous console running between the front and rear seats, and custom door panels.

"The CT Coupe is a personal car – something a customer would choose to reward him or herself – and the passenger environment reflects that," said Eric Clough, interior design director. "The interior uses the already excellent CTS design and takes it to a new, bolder level."

Custom-trimmed sport seats from Recaro are located in all four positions. They support the grand-touring nature of the car and are covered in rich, black and suede-like microfiber material, with yellow ochre-colored inserts. The yellow ochre color provides dramatic contrast with the black surrounding trim, but is a subdued hue consistent with the interior's overall feeling of refinement. Yellow ochre stitching also is used throughout, including the seats, instrument panel, shifter knob and more.

Black microfiber fabric covers the front armrest, as well as an armrest located between the rear seats. The armrests are part of a continuous console that stretches from the instrument panel to rear seats. Carbon-fiber trim accents the console. The interior also features ambient lighting throughout, creating a distinctive environment at night.

Like the sedan, the CTS Coupe Concept's interior is home to a host of technologies, including a premium Bose audio system, 40-gigabyte hard drive and XM Satellite Radio. OnStar with Turn-by-Turn Navigation enhances the vehicle's onboard navigation system, which – like the CTS – features a screen that rises out of the center of the instrument panel.

Performance-bred powertrain and suspension systems

As is the case with its design, the CT Coupe extends the acclaimed capabilities of the sedan in terms of performance technology. This includes the capability to support a broad engine range of gasoline and diesel engines.

The CT Coupe, of course, ascertains the sedan's 3.6L V-6 engines, including the 304-horsepower (227 kW) Direct Injection power plant. The Coupe Concept also is designed for a new 2.9L turbo-diesel being developed for international markets. This new engine, tailored for use in the CTS, will deliver an estimated 250 horsepower (184 kW) and 406 lb.-ft. of torque (550 Nm).

A six-speed manual transmission backs the engine, sending torque to an independently sprung rear axle. The CT Coupe's sport-tuned suspension gives it a slightly lower ride height than a production CTS – a look enhanced by the car's rakish shape and large, 20-inch front and 21-inch rear wheels.

Behind the chrome, split-spoke, aluminum alloy wheels is a set of high-performance brakes, featuring cross-drilled rotors. Six-piston calipers clamp down on the front rotors, while four-piston calipers grab the rear rotors. All of the rotors have a distinctive, yellow-painted finish.

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The coupe's a lot cleaner and aggressive looking imo. Even the more subtle grille is a substantial improvement. The only things I don't care for are the excessive use of yellow (brake calipers, interior stitching, etc), and the aftermarket looking rear bumper. Otherwise I like it a lot, morso than the sedan.
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