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Brolewigi · 07-08-2004, 07:36 AM

As I am finishing up my 240sx/Sr20det project, I have come up apon a 1971 Datsun 240z. It is going to be a project car with my father. I would be buying it off of my friend because he is going into the navy to buy a skyline and marry a 13 year old japaneese girl so he is getting rid of it. Im getting it for 350.00. It needs work. The floor is rusted out completly but he has the new ones so we would have to weld them in. The car runs and it runs well but I was interested in putting a new engine in it. I was wondering the possibilities of different engines for the car. I heard that you can put an Rb26dett in it. I would like to do that. I just want to let my father know what the options are for the car so he can buy all of the parts, hehe. Just wanting to know. Oh if anyone has any good Datsun sites for info, that would be good. thanks.

aznpoopy · 07-08-2004, 07:53 AM

wow... i'm kinda jealous. good luck with the car! put up some pics when u get it.

brianglawson · 07-08-2004, 11:17 AM

im going rb20det, but ther eis so many options
l20 6 cyl not 4
l24 stock but build it, you should have round su's and e31 head
l26
l28
l28 turbo
l31 (l28 bottom, l28 deisel crank, ka24e pistons..blah blah)
l31 turbo (same as above just boosted)
ca18det
fj20det
sr20det
rb20det
rb25det
rb26dett
rb30de
rb20de
rb25de
rb30det (rb30 bottom end with rb25det top)
2jzgte
7mgte
4age
vg30dett
ka24de
ka24e
ive seen all of these of course you could put a stupid american v8 in one, but who would do that?
i cant wait to start working on mine again, i had to put floor pans in mine as well, i have a 72 with l24 with rounds and e31, but rb20det will replace it, hoping for around 400whp

brianglawson · 07-08-2004, 11:19 AM

oh yeah dont forget q45 v8's

ForceofWill · 07-08-2004, 11:23 AM

Put an LS1 in that biotch.

And here is a great site/forum for the old Z's. http://www.hybridz.org

Steeles · 07-08-2004, 11:23 AM

motorsport auto in cali has the install kits for a chevy smallblock. I hear those things are damn sick when built. see all this Z talk really is gonna make me build mine up.... damn you people

Zoom8112 · 07-08-2004, 12:00 PM

i agree, LS1, LT1 are good options.

Bbandit · 07-08-2004, 12:27 PM

and I have to second or third that...
LS1/LT1.. parts are easier to come by
and if for some reason, +300rwtq wont satisfy you, turbo that bioatch.
It will be an awesome learning experience too.
something new to play with instead of being stuck at the inline 4/6 cyl world.

well at least thats what i'm going to do if i have a old skool z's project

tsunami0ne · 07-08-2004, 12:44 PM

wait what? 13 year old japanese girl?

goodjuan · 07-08-2004, 01:44 PM

Do it just like this or it's worthless....JK!

Good Luck man and keep us updated with pics!

Hawd · 07-08-2004, 01:51 PM

rb powaaaa. I want a 240z badly. The first car I learned to drive on was my mom's 1982 280z and I loved it. I like the older model z's better though.

d r i f t swift · 07-08-2004, 02:54 PM

i say go for the v8 swap lt1 ls1 even a carbureted 350 would give you more than enough power you could want..nm you could never have enough power. the v8 is probably one of the easier swaps also..

Zemus · 07-08-2004, 03:09 PM

Its all about weight with those. Some guy on the forusm has a 500HP SR powered 1900lb 240z, its the SHIIIT, and he wants to throw a CA in their talk about weight reductions and overall awesomness!!

d r i f t swift · 07-08-2004, 03:12 PM

holy shit 500hp 1900lbs thats like a go kart. haha

brianglawson · 07-08-2004, 04:46 PM

screw v8, lighter cars benefit from fast revving motors, not to mention the sound of a nive I-6, and plus who wants to spend 5 grand on 310 hp when you can spend 4 grand with an sr-ca-rb20 and have just as much and be lighter and better balanced with great sound/revs/and keepin it nissan

Ghettokracker71 · 07-08-2004, 04:58 PM

What he said ^ lol. I was thinking bascially "no gay V8" when I was reading about the V8 thing....You want a chevy,go buy one.

Put an a VH45DETT in that bitch!!!!

(I found a site along time ago,with a VH45DETT in a fully restored 240z in japan,unfuckingbelieveable,unfuckingbelieveable I tell you! I'll try to find it again...)

**mrmephistopheles** · 07-08-2004, 05:02 PM

SR20DET. Or KA24DET.

fogleroller · 07-08-2004, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrmephistopheles

SR20DET. Or KA24DET.

DITTO on the SR20DET

AKA Ryan · 07-08-2004, 10:15 PM

I love the 240z!!! They look badass from the front with the huge mouth. I say got with an RB or SR. Not only are they lighter, but it will keep your weight distro better balanced.

ForceofWill · 07-09-2004, 12:01 AM

The LS1 is actually a light engine, lighter i believe than the stock 280 motor.

If you think a v8 in there wont get you the power or speed that you want, check out Darius' procharged LT1 http://servinitup.com/videos.shtml Click on third pic for the video.

brianglawson · 07-09-2004, 08:21 AM

that q45 v8 twin turbo z is at this site www.zparts.com

Shin_Kudo · 07-09-2004, 02:30 PM

I've always liked Zs with Small Blocks. My friend and I have been considering taking this engineless, stripped, 280 and dropping in the biggest V8 we can fit in there.

brianglawson · 07-10-2004, 09:19 AM

^^booooooooo

oojpeeoo · 07-10-2004, 10:11 PM

mah friend has one and goin with an sr in it...beautiful lookin cars...ill try 2 post pix one hez finished...it should be comin around the corner

Ghettokracker71 · 07-10-2004, 11:27 PM

Thanks brian I been looking everywhere....

http://www.zparts.com/showcase/engin...z-testfit.html

Check THAT shit out. (LS-1 that,bitch

)

RSX-NICE clip

Bbandit · 07-10-2004, 11:38 PM

yea thats pimp.
But turbocharge the LS-1 and spend the same amount of $ and you can get the same thing.
Its just that the LS1 will be missing one thing... the dual overhead cams lol

Shin_Kudo · 07-11-2004, 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brianglawson

^^booooooooo

Well, I've already got a car slated to have an SR. V8s are so much easier to put in Zs, anyway, 'cause they sell convo kits for 'em.

rednerd · 07-11-2004, 01:59 AM

I have seen a 9 second 240z with a ferrari kit body on it. It had a small block chevy in it with a lot of laughing gas. It yanked the wheels wayyyyyyyy off the ground. The guy driver/own was probably in his late 60's.

I like the idea of updating the Datsun/Nissan straight 6 by changing it to an RB. The Z's were pretty heavy compared to a 240sx, I'd be afraid of the SR not having enough off boost torque. And lets face it RB engines just sound soooooo cooooool. Then again so do VQ engines with decent exhaust.

Push rods and spark plug wires suck.

**mrmephistopheles** · 07-11-2004, 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rednerd

The Z's were pretty heavy compared to a 240sx, I'd be afraid of the SR not having enough off boost torque.

Uhmm no. 240Zs are WAY lighter than 240sxs. On the order of 4-500 pounds lighter. I've seen MANY a modified S30 weighing in at around 2200lbs.
Also, SRs a good NA motors. Even though they're 2 liters, they're not like Honda motors where you have to rev them to infinity to go somewhere. Besides... How often will you be staying out of boost in an SR powered Z?!

bkfill · 07-11-2004, 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghettokracker71

What he said ^ lol. I was thinking bascially "no gay V8" when I was reading about the V8 thing....You want a chevy,go buy one.

u can't say shit like this

its like saying
u want a rb25det go buy a skyline

go check out www.v8rx7.com
there site is pretty cool usualy they do LS1 swaps but, some guy did a maxima motor in a rx7 2nd gen that was nice

to all the people who hate v8s theres nothing wrong with a v8 its prob even cheaper to find aftermarket parts(if your in the US)

and if u think about it witch 1 will last longer? a 400HP v8 or a 400HP i4
i don't know what to say about the i6/v6s they're cool..

same thing with money wise how much do you think it'll cost you to do the HP you want with a lower cyl car, and how much would it cost you to do it with a 8cyl car

well i dunno what the hell i just said but, what im trying to say is, ALL MOTORS ARE OUR FRIENDS, FROM 3 CYL TO WHATEVER 12CYL

and don't even try to say BLAH BLAH BLAH GAS GUZZLER, turbo cars eat gas too

07-08-2004, 07:36 AM	#1
Brolewigi Zilvia Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Michigan Age: 36 Posts: 152 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I might be getting a 240z! As I am finishing up my 240sx/Sr20det project, I have come up apon a 1971 Datsun 240z. It is going to be a project car with my father. I would be buying it off of my friend because he is going into the navy to buy a skyline and marry a 13 year old japaneese girl so he is getting rid of it. Im getting it for 350.00. It needs work. The floor is rusted out completly but he has the new ones so we would have to weld them in. The car runs and it runs well but I was interested in putting a new engine in it. I was wondering the possibilities of different engines for the car. I heard that you can put an Rb26dett in it. I would like to do that. I just want to let my father know what the options are for the car so he can buy all of the parts, hehe. Just wanting to know. Oh if anyone has any good Datsun sites for info, that would be good. thanks. __________________

07-08-2004, 11:17 AM	#3
brianglawson Nissanaholic! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, VA Age: 33 Posts: 1,912 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: brianglawson Feedback Score: 1 reviews	im going rb20det, but ther eis so many options l20 6 cyl not 4 l24 stock but build it, you should have round su's and e31 head l26 l28 l28 turbo l31 (l28 bottom, l28 deisel crank, ka24e pistons..blah blah) l31 turbo (same as above just boosted) ca18det fj20det sr20det rb20det rb25det rb26dett rb30de rb20de rb25de rb30det (rb30 bottom end with rb25det top) 2jzgte 7mgte 4age vg30dett ka24de ka24e ive seen all of these of course you could put a stupid american v8 in one, but who would do that? i cant wait to start working on mine again, i had to put floor pans in mine as well, i have a 72 with l24 with rounds and e31, but rb20det will replace it, hoping for around 400whp __________________ S15 SR20DET Powered, Kouki S14 http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=578575

07-08-2004, 11:19 AM	#4
brianglawson Nissanaholic! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, VA Age: 33 Posts: 1,912 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: brianglawson Feedback Score: 1 reviews	oh yeah dont forget q45 v8's __________________ S15 SR20DET Powered, Kouki S14 http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=578575

07-08-2004, 11:23 AM	#6
Steeles Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: 7th layer of hell, special pit of anger Age: 45 Posts: 3,785 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	motorsport auto in cali has the install kits for a chevy smallblock. I hear those things are damn sick when built. see all this Z talk really is gonna make me build mine up.... damn you people __________________ Keeping it Godzira bishes. So I murdered another turbo

07-08-2004, 12:27 PM	#8
Bbandit Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Texas and now Jakarta Age: 39 Posts: 2,674 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Bbandit Feedback Score: 0 reviews	and I have to second or third that... LS1/LT1.. parts are easier to come by and if for some reason, +300rwtq wont satisfy you, turbo that bioatch. It will be an awesome learning experience too. something new to play with instead of being stuck at the inline 4/6 cyl world. well at least thats what i'm going to do if i have a old skool z's project __________________ ==>>TGL GARAGE<<==.. RIP! S13 coupe KA-T @ 0.5 Bar = SOLD! A31 Cefiro + SR = Current

07-08-2004, 07:53 AM	#2
aznpoopy Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: New Jersey Age: 40 Posts: 5,013 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	wow... i'm kinda jealous. good luck with the car! put up some pics when u get it.

07-08-2004, 11:23 AM	#5
ForceofWill Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Birmingham Posts: 18 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Put an LS1 in that biotch. And here is a great site/forum for the old Z's. http://www.hybridz.org

07-08-2004, 12:00 PM	#7
Zoom8112 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: San Francisco, California Posts: 440 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i agree, LS1, LT1 are good options.

07-08-2004, 12:44 PM	#9
tsunami0ne Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: CA Posts: 503 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	wait what? 13 year old japanese girl?

07-08-2004, 01:44 PM	#10
goodjuan Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: San andreas Posts: 391 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Do it just like this or it's worthless....JK! Good Luck man and keep us updated with pics!

07-08-2004, 01:51 PM	#11
Hawd BANNED Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 593 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	rb powaaaa. I want a 240z badly. The first car I learned to drive on was my mom's 1982 280z and I loved it. I like the older model z's better though.

07-08-2004, 02:54 PM	#12
d r i f t swift Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: macramento Posts: 380 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i say go for the v8 swap lt1 ls1 even a carbureted 350 would give you more than enough power you could want..nm you could never have enough power. the v8 is probably one of the easier swaps also..

07-08-2004, 03:09 PM	#13
Zemus Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Minneapols Age: 37 Posts: 2,268 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Zemus Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Its all about weight with those. Some guy on the forusm has a 500HP SR powered 1900lb 240z, its the SHIIIT, and he wants to throw a CA in their talk about weight reductions and overall awesomness!! __________________ \|Ziptied.com\|Hybrid Z\|D-Town Forum\|Clubfr.net\|

07-08-2004, 03:12 PM	#14
d r i f t swift Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: macramento Posts: 380 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	holy shit 500hp 1900lbs thats like a go kart. haha

07-08-2004, 04:46 PM	#15
brianglawson Nissanaholic! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, VA Age: 33 Posts: 1,912 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: brianglawson Feedback Score: 1 reviews	screw v8, lighter cars benefit from fast revving motors, not to mention the sound of a nive I-6, and plus who wants to spend 5 grand on 310 hp when you can spend 4 grand with an sr-ca-rb20 and have just as much and be lighter and better balanced with great sound/revs/and keepin it nissan __________________ S15 SR20DET Powered, Kouki S14 http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=578575

07-08-2004, 04:58 PM	#16
Ghettokracker71 Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Don't look now... Age: 34 Posts: 3,327 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	What he said ^ lol. I was thinking bascially "no gay V8" when I was reading about the V8 thing....You want a chevy,go buy one. Put an a VH45DETT in that bitch!!!! (I found a site along time ago,with a VH45DETT in a fully restored 240z in japan,unfuckingbelieveable,unfuckingbelieveable I tell you! I'll try to find it again...)

07-08-2004, 05:02 PM	#17
mrmephistopheles Inactive Admin Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: BFE Age: 19 Posts: 14,334 Trader Rating: (9) Rides Gallery: mrmephistopheles Feedback Score: 9 reviews	SR20DET. Or KA24DET.

07-08-2004, 10:15 PM	#19
AKA Ryan Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Beaumont, TX Age: 40 Posts: 49 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I love the 240z!!! They look badass from the front with the huge mouth. I say got with an RB or SR. Not only are they lighter, but it will keep your weight distro better balanced. __________________ Our doubts are traitors, And make us lose the good we oft might win By fearing to attempt. - Shakespeare

07-09-2004, 12:01 AM	#20
ForceofWill Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Birmingham Posts: 18 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The LS1 is actually a light engine, lighter i believe than the stock 280 motor. If you think a v8 in there wont get you the power or speed that you want, check out Darius' procharged LT1 http://servinitup.com/videos.shtml Click on third pic for the video.

07-09-2004, 08:21 AM	#21
brianglawson Nissanaholic! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, VA Age: 33 Posts: 1,912 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: brianglawson Feedback Score: 1 reviews	that q45 v8 twin turbo z is at this site www.zparts.com __________________ S15 SR20DET Powered, Kouki S14 http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=578575

07-09-2004, 02:30 PM	#22
Shin_Kudo Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 699 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I've always liked Zs with Small Blocks. My friend and I have been considering taking this engineless, stripped, 280 and dropping in the biggest V8 we can fit in there. __________________ '95 240SX Base Pearl White

07-10-2004, 09:19 AM	#23
brianglawson Nissanaholic! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, VA Age: 33 Posts: 1,912 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: brianglawson Feedback Score: 1 reviews	^^booooooooo __________________ S15 SR20DET Powered, Kouki S14 http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=578575

07-10-2004, 10:11 PM	#24
oojpeeoo Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: san jose Posts: 538 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	mah friend has one and goin with an sr in it...beautiful lookin cars...ill try 2 post pix one hez finished...it should be comin around the corner

07-10-2004, 11:27 PM	#25
Ghettokracker71 Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Don't look now... Age: 34 Posts: 3,327 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Thanks brian I been looking everywhere.... http://www.zparts.com/showcase/engin...z-testfit.html Check THAT shit out. (LS-1 that,bitch ) RSX-NICE clip

07-10-2004, 11:38 PM	#26
Bbandit Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Texas and now Jakarta Age: 39 Posts: 2,674 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Bbandit Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yea thats pimp. But turbocharge the LS-1 and spend the same amount of $ and you can get the same thing. Its just that the LS1 will be missing one thing... the dual overhead cams lol __________________ ==>>TGL GARAGE<<==.. RIP! S13 coupe KA-T @ 0.5 Bar = SOLD! A31 Cefiro + SR = Current

07-11-2004, 01:59 AM	#28
rednerd Zilvia Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 180 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I have seen a 9 second 240z with a ferrari kit body on it. It had a small block chevy in it with a lot of laughing gas. It yanked the wheels wayyyyyyyy off the ground. The guy driver/own was probably in his late 60's. I like the idea of updating the Datsun/Nissan straight 6 by changing it to an RB. The Z's were pretty heavy compared to a 240sx, I'd be afraid of the SR not having enough off boost torque. And lets face it RB engines just sound soooooo cooooool. Then again so do VQ engines with decent exhaust. Push rods and spark plug wires suck.

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