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Old 11-05-2012, 12:32 AM   #4801
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I want to weld a spherical onto my FLCA but have no idea which one to buy. Do you guys have any links or preferences? I have no experience with sphericals/rod ends.

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Old 11-05-2012, 05:37 PM   #4802
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Have any of my R/z chassis guys seen this setup?

Garage 7 R32 Skyline Bolt In Lock Kit

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Old 11-05-2012, 07:18 PM   #4803
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Old 11-06-2012, 03:02 AM   #4804
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That is a pretty crazy bolt on :/
Tdp have posted pics of theyre prototype r chassis knuckles. Look them up on facebook
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Old 11-06-2012, 05:13 AM   #4806
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I see you have reduced anti-dive or even eliminated it, how are the results?
Also you might want to reconsider changing the size of your pictures
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Old 11-06-2012, 07:13 AM   #4807
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Yes i raised front crossmember 35mm and also the tierods 35mm inboard mounting points. Iam gonna try 17.5mm in the middle next

Ive only had 10 laps with it. It is soooo easy to drift
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Old 11-06-2012, 07:15 AM   #4808
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I'll try make the pics smaller

EDIT: I thought I would add that when I say easy to drift I mean really really easy.

I had never driven this car before. My first laps were top 32 qualifying of the UK open drift championship. I qualified 3rd, then knocked out the driftworks s15 in the top 16 battles and I ended up finishing in 3rd place overall
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That is a pretty crazy bolt on :/
Tdp have posted pics of theyre prototype r chassis knuckles. Look them up on facebook
That looks like a nice kit, but sadly I dont think it will work on my Q45. It uses the same knuckle as a r32/z32 but the LCA is different and so is the 3rd member/uproght.
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So how far do i need to extend s13 LCA to work with stock knuckles and PBM tie rod inners
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Old 11-06-2012, 12:53 PM   #4812
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That is a pretty crazy bolt on :/
Tdp have posted pics of theyre prototype r chassis knuckles. Look them up on facebook

Those definetely look promising. I wish i could see more pics, I tried searching Tdp on FB and nothing popped up. I just dont like how it widens my track so much. Could I shorten the LCA and keep my current wheels or would defeating the purpose...
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Those definetely look promising. I wish i could see more pics, I tried searching Tdp on FB and nothing popped up. I just dont like how it widens my track so much. Could I shorten the LCA and keep my current wheels or would defeating the purpose...
Search Track Day Performance on facebook, to find them.

You would be defeating the purpose of the adapter, if you were to shorten your LCA.
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So how far do i need to extend s13 LCA to work with stock knuckles and PBM tie rod inners
thats all backwards, get the knuckle and that makes you need the long tie rods

you need that angle, roll center, and bump steer correction in your life even if it means eating top-ramen every day until you reach your goal = )
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thats all backwards, get the knuckle and that makes you need the long tie rods

you need that angle, roll center, and bump steer correction in your life even if it means eating top-ramen every day until you reach your goal = )
Dan you know i'm getting knuckles at some point lol, but i'm going in stages, My Ikea rods are toast and i already have some LCA to extend. So figured i could do the rack bushing i have new tie rods and extended LCA. i dont mind the stock angle b/c i just dick around on the streets. But i might be buying knuckles soon regardless so i can fix the f**king bumpsteer and killing of tie rods/ends / ball joints
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understood, if you do push to get them, even if you never use full lock unless you are in the rain, the car will handle like a go cart & be stable in turns with the roll center / bump steer elimination knux and the quicker steering character is fun even around town and changing lanes on the freeway.

This is why many people choose the pro mod for their DD
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ya, not to mention i've brian washed my self with the desire to be Haruguchi low(tho i doubt ill ever be that low), build proper slammed cars and have fun !
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thats all backwards, get the knuckle and that makes you need the long tie rods

you need that angle, roll center, and bump steer correction in your life even if it means eating top-ramen every day until you reach your goal = )
i already have JIC tie rods which has built in spacers, and SPC tension rods on my S13. If i get ur Pro knuckle what else would u recommend? I saw where u could mod the oem lca but was wondering if i needed ot run ur tension rod also?

Or could i just get ur pro knuckle and use oem s14 LCA?

the car will be used for grassroots drift events
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:36 PM   #4819
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read almost all 160 pages, but still have some q's

extending lca is best option for gaining inboard clearance at full lock? wheel offset seemes to be more important for tc rod clearance. how far to extend s13 lca? 15-30mm?

also which are the best companies in north america modifying knuckles for angle only? MA, garage autohero, drift speed, kpr? will PBM modify knuckles for angle only? (no roll center correction)

need moar angle for next season. been running stock and a godspeed angle spacer was a major headache that would not work with my setup.
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Why wouldn't you want roll center, bumpsteer and ackerman adjusted?
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You read an entire thread about roll centre correction and then decided you dont want it..... crazy
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that bolt on knuckle mod has got me confused.

It looks to me like they would increase scrub radius by a large amount and also reduce the kpi a large amount also. i wonder if they adjust the top mounting point at all
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Old 11-07-2012, 08:07 AM   #4823
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^ yes, that's definitely my biggest concern. offsetting the old ball joint pickup so far out from the new pickup just made for a big scrub radius. can't see that being particularly advantageous over a drop-spindle like PBM's or GKTech's.
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You read an entire thread about roll centre correction and then decided you dont want it..... crazy
my goal is to increase steering angle for drift. ideally i would want RC correction but have a limited budget. i would not want to correct RC in the front with drop knuckles without doing anything to the rear, creating unbalance. the gktech rear looks very nice with dual caliper and drum ebrake provisions. i have bumpsteer correction with adjustable outers, but i suppose modifying the pickup at the knuckle is the beter solution and would probably explain my vague steering feel around center.( the increase length of the shank vs oem outer) ackerman would be altered with most modified knuckles.

so my question remains, which is the best company that is modifiying these knuckles? my biggest concern is the strength once modified. everyone here knows how difficult cast iron is to weld. my local fabricator could cut and weld but it would be the first pair hes done and i sure as hell wouldnt be comfortable throwing my car into a drift at 60+mph and having the tie rod snap off.

ideally new castings such as era1, welded plates like driftworks or billet like that company from ireland would give best strength, but those are the most expensive options, for me to gain a little angle.
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The rollcenter imbalance doesn't seem to cause much problems with my car. I had drop knuckles in the rear and destroyed one hitting a kwall. I went back to stock knuckles in the rear and managed to get back on the podium for round 3 of my local proam. I feel you should just save and do it right the first time.
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my biggest concern is the strength once modified. everyone here knows how difficult cast iron is to weld. my local fabricator could cut and weld but it would be the first pair hes done and i sure as hell wouldnt be comfortable throwing my car into a drift at 60+mph and having the tie rod snap off.
S-Chassis have Forged knuckles. NOT cast.
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Yes, more info on this please!!! For $600 the Abercrombie kit looks amazing.
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i already have JIC tie rods which has built in spacers, and SPC tension rods on my S13. If i get ur Pro knuckle what else would u recommend? I saw where u could mod the oem lca but was wondering if i needed ot run ur tension rod also?

Or could i just get ur pro knuckle and use oem s14 LCA?

the car will be used for grassroots drift events
if you get the Pro knuckle mod, it will be a lot of fun regardless of the other parts however it should be every s-chassis owners mission to eliminate all of the 20 year old rubber from the car for the best most responsive feel.

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ideally new castings such as era1
actually to make a casting copy of a plate design is not ideal because you are combining low density steel with a thin wall design. It bends.

No one has ever broken our S chassis welded knuckle mod, no matter how hard the crash, its the only thing to survive in some cases, very good steel.
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