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Old 05-18-2012, 08:54 PM   #1
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S14 vs. S15 T28 turbos!!!!!!!

So not long i had a friend purchased for me a turbo from Glenn (HIBOOST) yes silver S14 RB26DETT. Sad part is i text and even message glenn on facebook about a t28 turbo he had for sale. Asked him if it was a S15 and NOT S14 turbo and clearly states that it IS an S15 spec R turbo. What's even more sad was i was trying to buy the turbo from him, never got back to me then told me he was going to keep it. My friend text him and asked if he had the turbo....glenn then text me back saying he is selling the turbo which was my friend actually buying it for me so i had to buy the turbo threw someone else!!!

The best part is how much of a dumbass he is when he is suppose to be a tuning god and KNOW's everything about SR's, KA's, RB's blah blah but is either really stupid or is a true druggie like everyone says. My problem is not identifying the difference between a S14 t28 and S15 t28 hence they look exactly the same. Anyways i did some searching and realized on the back exhaust housing the S15 is divided in between turbine exit and wastegate flapper and the S14 is flat/smooth. I confronted him about his lies and he really sold an S14 T28 turbo claiming it was an S15 that there all the same. Both can make the same power and that it was pulled from an S15 engine which people can vouch for

Now he is texting me about how much of a dumbass i am and don't know what i'm talking about saying i'm crazy for not knowing their the same thing and make the same power. It amazes me that this guy would pull this shit hence people nutswing off this loser which he is suppose to be the best AEM tuner and makes crazy high power cars from his tunes and good in the community. Even after a briefly conversation on the phone he said he's made S14 t28 turbo's make the same power as S15 gt2871r turbos!

This is his turbo purchased (S14 t28 garbage)


This is how the turbo is suppose to look like (S15 gt2871r)


I wanted everyone's opinion on what they think about this, hence everyone on here has shared experience.
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You got suckered, sucks to be you. Punch the people, who keeps telling you that S15 turbos and S14 turbos are the same, in the face.
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You got suckered, sucks to be you. Punch the people, who keeps telling you that S15 turbos and S14 turbos are the same, in the face.
They are the same... right? Just not the JDM S15 spec R turbo.

IIRC, there are s15s that come with smaller turbos which are the single ball bearing s14 kouki turbo. I do not know if these turbo's are off JDM S15s but instead are off aussie/nz s15s or something like that. Maybe off a non S15 Spec R, a spec s maybe???

Somebody please confirm this, though it's not really important.... You didn't get the jdm s15 spec r turbo, you should have checked the part number first.
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ive heard that s15 spec r turbos are dual bb but i havent researched it a whole lot
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From what i heard and read, S14 are BB turbo's. Supposedly there are two different S15 turbo's an automatic one which is BB and the other that has a divider is suppose to be a BB as well. The spec R version is DBB dual ball bearing. Not 100% sure how true that is?
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Automatic s15 turbos don't have the divider. I have one. Just look on the chra and research the numbers
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the only J-Spec T28 that is not a ball bearing turbo is the Pulsar GITR turbo

Post up the PN off the turbo and ill tell you what its off of.
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Automatic S15's had the 'S14' turbo.

Honestly, I would rather not have the half-divider on the turbo, since all of the fancy downpipes/elbows come with a full divider built-in, and then it just complicates things.
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I don't understand this thread. As long as its a t28 bb one there is no reason to complain. Just like he says they are pretty identical, s15 may be able to squeeze a few extra hp up top with that divider but your butt dyno will never feel it. All it is, is mad jdm points to say you have a s15 turbo.
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Kouki S14 Silvia and the automatic S15 Silvia Spec-R use the same turbos. The 6spd S15 Silvia Spec-R uses another turbo. Both turbos are ball bearing but have various differences.

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Compressor: T-28, 60 trim 60 mm BCI-1 compressor in T-04B housing

Turbine: T-25, 62 trim 53.8mm 0.64 A/R turbine housing.

Center Section: Ball Bearing

S15 manual
Compressor: T-28, 60 trim 60 mm BCI-1 compressor in T-04B housing

Turbine: Inco turbine wheel. Cast divider wall between turbine discharge and wastegate.

Center Section: Ball Bearing

The turbine wheel is also larger on the s15 turbo.
Max efficient psi on the s14 turbo is about 14 psi. Max psi on the s15 turbo is around 18 psi. Max hp on the s14 turbo is around 280 and on the s15 it's 300+
I have a S15 DBB turbo from a 6spd spec-R and the part number on it is 14411-91F00
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'95-'99 S14 Silvia, 200sx
Blacktop 8.5:1 162 kW (217 hp) @ 6000 rpm 203 lb·ft (275 N·m) @ 4800 rpm T-28 7psi
62 trim 53.8 mm (2.1 in), .64 A/R housing, BB if JDM
BCI-1 in T-04B housing
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Blacktop 8.5:1 183 kW (245 hp) @ 6400 rpm 202 lb·ft (274 N·m) @ 4800 rpm T-28BB 7psi
60 trim 60 mm (2.4 in), ball bearing, Inco turbine wheel
BCI-1 in T-04B housing

That’s what I could find bro, I mean the amount of power you might be able to squeeze out of the S-15 spec R turbo would be minute to say the least. Can you show us a pic of the compressor side? It’s really all in the tune I’m sure everybody can agree with that. (Which I doubt you will be able to get from Glenn after this). Personally, I have delt with Glenn multiple times he is a clean cut dude who knows his stuff. Honestly bro, many people would kill to have gotten that turbo for like 300 bucks you should count your blessings! If you don’t want it put it up for sale you prob could make money off of all this. All the drifting events are coming up and I’m sure a bunch of dudes are ganna be looking for these. You really should not bash Glenn on Zilvia he has brought a lot to the 240 community. You probably should have handled this situation a little more mature... m2$
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The s15 t28 is NOT a 2871r.. Its a 2560r, or so i thought?? hmm..
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The best thing, IMO, about S15 turbochargers is that you can sometimes find them in decent shape.
Many S14 turbochargers have been around the block.
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Hello everyone this is Hiboost .. Yes you can pretty much make the same power s14 or s15 T28 so i'm not sure what this guy is getting at ! This guy is crazy i never even did business with him !!!!!!! wow he sent me a message on Facebook asking the condition of the turbo that's it!!! It was a very fresh turbo and a good deal!! (((A guy named Omar purchased this turbo from me about a month ago and i would have gladly given a refund to Omar if there was a problem!!))) But this guy... I don't even know what he looks like or who he is i went on Facebook he doesn't even have a photo anywhere! Oh well all the years and finally.... That Guy that's out to get me lol My name is Glenn you can find me @ SRRBWORLDTUNING.COM and check out my Cummins Turbo Diesel 240sx on Youtube @ http;//youtu.be/UpaktgSI1rs
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Oh and by the way the turbo was off a S15 swap and i have two people to vouch on that one for me .....Instead he jumped the gun and started calling me a crook saying i'm no different than Z Fever I would have welded a Divider into the Turbine housing for him to make it the exact same turbo if i made a mistake due to someone putting a T28 S14 turbo on a S15 motor in Japan or even given him his money back !! But then again Omar never called me with a problem and that's the guy who bought it from me lol But what do i know i'm a Dumb ass and a Druggy lol
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OP: You should've just told "Omar" or whoever to contact Glenn and ask him for a return/partial refund whe nyou realized it wasn't a Spec-R turbo.


Glenn: But did you sell the turbo as a Spec-R turbo? Because regardless of what you think, those turbo's aren't identical. There are differences, that's why there are different PN's. That's also why S15 Spec-R turbos cost more. They are DBB compared to standard BB.
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Hello everyone this is Hiboost .. Yes you can pretty much make the same power s14 or s15 T28 so i'm not sure what this guy is getting at ! This guy is crazy i never even did business with him !!!!!!! wow he sent me a message on Facebook asking the condition of the turbo that's it!!! It was a very fresh turbo and a good deal!! (((A guy named Omar purchased this turbo from me about a month ago and i would have gladly given a refund to Omar if there was a problem!!))) But this guy... I don't even know what he looks like or who he is i went on Facebook he doesn't even have a photo anywhere! Oh well all the years and finally.... That Guy that's out to get me lol My name is Glenn you can find me @ SRRBWORLDTUNING.COM and check out my Cummins Turbo Diesel 240sx on Youtube @ http;//youtu.be/UpaktgSI1rs
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Oh and by the way the turbo was off a S15 swap and i have two people to vouch on that one for me .....Instead he jumped the gun and started calling me a crook saying i'm no different than Z Fever I would have welded a Divider into the Turbine housing for him to make it the exact same turbo if i made a mistake due to someone putting a T28 S14 turbo on a S15 motor in Japan or even given him his money back !! But then again Omar never called me with a problem and that's the guy who bought it from me lol But what do i know i'm a Dumb ass and a Druggy lol
Cool stories bro. Where did you learn to art of perfect run on sentences?

If you would have cared to read the entire thread you would have saw that S14 and S15 automatic turbos are the same. Only S15 MT turbos are different (and better).
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I'm sure everyone know's what i am saying/getting at except for you Killer therefore i am sorry .. And what you are saying is pointless because ONCE AGAIN i would have given Omar a full refund for my mistake if one was made! Omar Never called me !!!!! One month later this other guy calls me saying i ripped him off what really ???? What would you do??
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I sold the turbo as a S15 t28 not a Manual SPEC-R Turbo Not a GT28/71 but a plane jane T28 S15 BB Turbo Seriously!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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The fact that this dude is doing this really sucks! what a waste of time there are three people i know that wanted this turbo for $300 a few days after i sold it to Omar ...
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It's not a "28/71".

Your argument is void, please shut the fuck up.
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Thanks buddy not needed.. miss type ! I'm sure everyone that's smart here can see the point!! This is very upsetting !!!
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I think you've got a couple typos or misconseptions. The S15 specR turbo is not a 2871R its a 28R. Second you more than likely have a non ball bearing t28 from an s15. You need to check also how many bolts hold the turbine housing because on the BB turbos they had 6 and the non bb t28s/25s they used 4 bolts. You also need to check the drain port on the turbo. If your stock t25 drain tube fits on it it's def not a bb t28.
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What kind of dumbass can't tell if the turbo is a BB one or not? Oh right... this kind of dumbass....


I think I can hear him crying into a pillow all the way from TX...
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You got screwed. With that said, it's silly to call someone dumb when you can't even type a legible sentence. Telling someone to go cry about it and making a homophobic remark is also very childish. Grow up.
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If OP bought the turbo for $300, that should have been the first clue...
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I think I can hear him crying into a pillow all the way from TX...
I mod tamparacing.com's nissan section. This thread originated there. I told him exactly what everyone has been saying in this thread. S14 and regular non spec r t28's are the same. They are NOT 2871r's for the love of God! IIRC the only journal bearing t2 flanged t28 comes off a Pulsar. The turbo he was sold is a standard bb s14 / non spec R t28. If it was marketed as a Spec R dual bb turbo, then there can be a dispute. It is pretty evident that wasn't the case though.

All this crap over 10-15hp! I guess he needs to hear everything twice...

S14 vs. S15 T28 turbos!!!!!!!
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