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Old 11-19-2007, 10:00 AM   #1
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10 Most safe and dangerous cities to live

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/11/18/dan....ap/index.html

Ranked Most Dangerous
1. Detroit, Michigan
2. St. Louis, Missouri
3. Flint, Michigan
4. Oakland, California
5. Camden, New Jersey
6. Birmingham, Alabama
7. North Charleston, South Carolina
8. Memphis, Tennessee
9. Richmond, California
10. Cleveland, Ohio

Ranked Safest
1. Mission Viejo, California
2. Clarkstown, New York
3. Brick Township, New Jersey
4. Amherst, New York
5. Sugar Land, Texas
6. Colonie, New York
7. Thousand Oaks, California
8. Newton, Massachusetts
9. Toms River Township, N.J.
10. Lake Forest, California
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Old 11-19-2007, 10:04 AM   #2
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I dunno I found Louisiana pretty crazy.....Most of those places have bad crime because of population bad way to calculate crime isnt it? Still cool though.
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Detroit is dangerous without a doubt. I try to stop in Detroit as little as possible. I stopped at a gas station on the outskirts of Detroit once and all windows had security bars on them and the counter was shielded by super thick bullet proof glass. Plus, all the beaters of Detroit litter car parts on I-75. I smoked a bumper that I couldn't avoid going 75 and it cracked my bumper and tore off the fender liner.
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hasnt detroit been on top of the list for years now?
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Yea, Birmingham sucks cause the "thugs" here are idiots. Chicago's ghetto had me pretty freaked out when I went there trying to find a hotdog spot. Surprised it didn't make the list.
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Camden is hood as fuck. Where is Gary, Indiana, they must be slacking. Need to step their game up again.
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I want to live in Sugar Land, TX... that place sounds like something I dreamed about as a fat kid growing up...
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lol Ohio? how is somewhere in Ohio on the top 10 most dangerous cities....and lol newton MA is on the safest, not suprising I dont think they know what crime is

and yeah detroit is always up there on the list cause its economy sucks....like highest unemployment rate in the nation.....suprised baltimore isnt up there tho cause they ususally have the higest murder rate every year
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I never noticed Birmingham being that bad...Weird
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lol Ohio? how is somewhere in Ohio on the top 10 most dangerous cities....
because cleveland is a wannabe deeeetroit

ha i live 5 min from #4 safest spot, guess i should move
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compton in the HOUSE!

hehe damn, we're slippin out here
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camden new jersey is like the fucking scariest place on earth! I read some where that it had the highest murder rate! Im suprised other Nj cities didnt make it to the dangerous list for there is alot of them i wouldnt want to be caught dead walking in at nite
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hehe damn, we're slippin out here
supposedly compton has been getting safer, but seriously wtf south central aint a place Id wanna be in after the street lights come on!
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jaja, I live in Lake Forest and Mission viejo is like two lights away from my house, arent I lucky?
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Hey... I was just considering summer plans to go visit a friend in Detriot.

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i believe Cary, NC was one of the safest cities last year....

and i believe Camden almost doubled the murder rate of DC last year, and DC was number 1 the year before that....
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Ah Sugarland, TX I had a lot of friends from there growing up. It is a really nice place.

What happened to Irvine though?

I thought a certain person who works at a certain company called (blank) spec lived in the nation's safest city.
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Having lived in Detroit for 4 years, I have to say it's the best city ever...... for street drifting.
And by that I mean Detroit is total anarchy. You can be going 120mph on the I-94, and be passed by a cop car that doesn't even look at you.
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I'm surprised that Atlanta didn't make the list... We have college park!
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cali is on there 5 times. our state is just toooooo fucking big!
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Mission Viejo:
As of the census of 2000, there are 93,102 people, 32,449 households, and 25,212 families residing in the city.

Detroit:
As of the 2000 census, there were 951,270 people, 336,428 households, and 218,341 families residing in the city.


i dont consider mission viejo, lake forest, or any other "city" in orange county an actual city, besides irvine and santa ana, which both have metropolitan areas. mission viejo and lake forest are just "planned communities" with homes with sparatic 'business parks'... i dont think they should be compared to places like detroit, oakland, etc.

there's a fbi website some where which has the most safest / dangerous cities with population over 150k and so forth, i just cant find it. in which irvine was included and labeled as the safest, since 2005.

but yeah, 90k people vs 900k people... obviously the crime is going to be way higher.

Mission Viejo Demographics

Detroit Demographics

there's nothing to do in mission viejo / lake forest anyway. theres a giant church that's basically like a disneyland for christians. there's no bars, no night clubs, no liquor stores, only one freeway that boarders the town (I5)... lake forest doesnt have any freeways going through it, but it does have a toll road (SR241)..

these 'sub-cities' dont compare with normal cities. imo.
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yes Oakland is in it again, funny thing is, its not that bad out here, I honestly must say Richmond, is much worse.
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I have no idea how every single town in Iowa is not safer then ANY city in New York and Cali.
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I need to move to Mission Viejo soon.

M.V. has been the safest for a while now.. I lived there back in 02' and I read the same thing (top of the list)..

What's ironic is that right after I read that my wife called me and told me someone just capped like two people at the mall she worked at.. I wanted to pick her up A.S.A.P but cops had all the street shut down.. They were even in my parking structure..

After that we moved (not cause of that specific reason).

Just saw the list again.. From MV I did move to Lake forest..

I also agree with you Pedro about comparing "communities" to Metropolises. obviously is the city with the larger pop will have more crime simply cause there are more people/cars/houses/businesses/etc. to commit crimes against.

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