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drift freaq · 03-14-2011, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atutt

All it takes is one bad apple to ruin it.

Actually, my family has owned F-150's since 1985... Never had one issue with any of them. Except my 04... Then it killed it for everyone.
I used to speak highly of Ford. Now I'll talk shit about them every chance I get.

I'm sure it's like that for a lot of people.
Just saying.... Can't expect everyone to be all giddy about the new Ford stuff

I think you are to quick to judge. You had a problem and they warrantied it. Which means they were willing to take care of it.
Plus like we said earlier, the Ford of the last 3 years is not the Ford of 04. Now if you can't see beyond that? Then that blindness is your problem.

I could sit there and say the GM of 2002 was utter crap and falls apart. Guess what I would be right. Though I keep my eyes open and am willing to say hey maybe they have it right now. Check it out, wow they actually did get it right.

You miss many chances in life if you adopt your attitude of one bad apple ruins it.

You would screw yourself at the Grocery store based on that approach. LOL.

atutt · 03-14-2011, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drift freaq

I think you are to quick to judge. You had a problem and they warrantied it. Which means they were willing to take care of it.
Plus like we said earlier, the Ford of the last 3 years is not the Ford of 04. Now if you can't see beyond that? Then that blindness is your problem.

I could sit there and say the GM of 2002 was utter crap and falls apart. Guess what I would be right. Though I keep my eyes open and am willing to say hey maybe they have it right now. Check it out, wow they actually did get it right.

You miss many chances in life if you adopt your attitude of one bad apple ruins it.

You would screw yourself at the Grocery store based on that approach. LOL.

Groceries and $50k truck are different.

First off..... NONE of this was warrantied. Aside from Ford terrible engineering. My problems also lie within the incompetent mechanics who worked on it.

It seems more people are taking offense to others not liking Ford more than anything. Ranting and raving that it's so amazing. But one person thinks otherwise. Suddenly it's an issue....

It's not just the 04's I have issues with either.

The bosses 2010 powerstroke... 3 faulty turbos in 6 months...
I just simply have no faith in Ford anymore. I see this ecoboost motor. And all I see are problems coming to light in the next few years.
I'd love to be proven wrong.

But close to $20k in repairs in 4 years...? Would you have any faith in a motor company?
"Hey my last Ford cost me my balls! I want another one!" I don't see that as a likely scenario... For anyone.
Even Ford's parts stamped "revised" fail incredibly quick.

HyperTek · 03-14-2011, 07:17 PM

I like the motor and power output, but if i own a mustang it has to be a v8

K_style · 03-14-2011, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HyperTek

I like the motor and power output, but if i own a mustang it has to be a v8

Agreed.... if I ever own a Mustang... it has got to be V8.... can't beat that roaring exhaust sound...

drift freaq · 03-14-2011, 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atutt

Groceries and $50k truck are different.

First off..... NONE of this was warrantied. Aside from Ford terrible engineering. My problems also lie within the incompetent mechanics who worked on it.

It seems more people are taking offense to others not liking Ford more than anything. Ranting and raving that it's so amazing. But one person thinks otherwise. Suddenly it's an issue....

It's not just the 04's I have issues with either.

The bosses 2010 powerstroke... 3 faulty turbos in 6 months...
I just simply have no faith in Ford anymore. I see this ecoboost motor. And all I see are problems coming to light in the next few years.
I'd love to be proven wrong.

But close to $20k in repairs in 4 years...? Would you have any faith in a motor company?
"Hey my last Ford cost me my balls! I want another one!" I don't see that as a likely scenario... For anyone.
Even Ford's parts stamped "revised" fail incredibly quick.

Nothing personal here. Just a counter point. I always love how the minute you give counter points to people on Zilvia they think you are taking it personal.

For instance, if there were mechanics involved that might have made the problem worse, perhaps you are laying the blame in the wrong place?

Now again this is just a counter point. If you cannot take it then do not post.

I only have you word. Nothing personal, but until I have both sides of the story? Perhaps I cannot even pass judgment against Ford, based on your words.

You have your opinion, I have mine. You speak of something I cannot verify so I call to question. That is all.
Nothing personal at all beyond opinions.

atutt · 03-14-2011, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drift freaq

Nothing personal here. Just a counter point. I always love how the minute you give counter points to people on Zilvia they think you are taking it personal.

For instance, if there were mechanics involved that might have made the problem worse, perhaps you are laying the blame in the wrong place?

Now again this is just a counter point. If you cannot take it then do not post.

I only have you word. Nothing personal, but until I have both sides of the story? Perhaps I cannot even pass judgment against Ford, based on your words.

You have your opinion, I have mine. You speak of something I cannot verify so I call to question. That is all.
Nothing personal at all beyond opinions.

My cam phasers

They're not supposed to come apart.....

These failing resulted in my timing chain coming off and completely destroying my guides, tensioners, timing case, and because it's an interference motor.. I bent almost all my valves.

Oil changes every 3000-5000km... All regular maintenance....

Sure. I got a lemon... But why would something like this entice anyone to ever buy from that company again?

pacotaco345 · 03-14-2011, 08:35 PM

We had a '96 explorer with a v6 and an auto that had 230xxx miles on it before we sold it. When we sold it EVERYTHING on the car still worked, the only thing wrong with it was a timing chain rattle and half of us who own 240's with a ka deal with that on a daily basis. As long as you take care of your car, and keep up on the "secret recalls" that EVERY manufacturer puts out then you'll be fine.

*exitspeed* · 03-15-2011, 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atutt

All it takes is one bad apple to ruin it.

Actually, my family has owned F-150's since 1985... Never had one issue with any of them. Except my 04... Then it killed it for everyone.
I used to speak highly of Ford. Now I'll talk shit about them every chance I get.

I'm sure it's like that for a lot of people.
Just saying.... Can't expect everyone to be all giddy about the new Ford stuff

No, personal experiences definitely play into things. However if you educate yourself on the subject of dependability you will find out that in general ALL car manufactures are super dependable today compared to even 15 years ago.

I had a 99 Grand Am GT in 99, brand new, like 12 miles on it. Thing was an absolute pile. At the time, admittedly, I wasn't nearly as educated on the subject as I am today. And it was years and years before GM would start making GOOD vehicles and convince me to buy another one. Now, I haven't bought another one yet, but I would not hesitate. And I recommend them to all my friends and family that depend on me for information regarding car purchases.

PoorMans180SX · 03-15-2011, 09:44 AM

I work on Ford, GM, and Chrysler products every day from 1985 to 2010. I can say that yes, they have made long strides (well except for Chrysler), but they're still a ways away.

I do think the new ecoboost engine looks really good and cool. The videos were awesome for sure.

But even modern 4.6 and 5.4 exhaust manifolds still warp and rot off the engines along with the exhaust studs. And that kind of thing is such a pain in the butt. Until they fix those kind of problems, I'll stick with the Japanese import world.

*exitspeed* · 03-15-2011, 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PoorMans180SX

I work on Ford, GM, and Chrysler products every day from 1985 to 2010. I can say that yes, they have made long strides (well except for Chrysler), but they're still a ways away.
.

Yeah, Chrysler still has a waaaays to go.

lewisfk · 03-17-2011, 09:37 PM

the engine sounds great, the hype around it sounds great, but i will never buy a first year model anything! i own a nissan armada and that bitch is a beast! she takes away all my money on gas and i feel raped! I can tow to my hearts content and they stand out. Ford has made some radical changes in the last 5 years, and they may be the only one standing in a few years out of the big three. I swore to myself i will never buy a so called made in America vehicle until their actually are made in America and they can beat the other competitors hands down! Maybe in the next two years i will have an ecoboost in my garage! (maybe) what has chevy or dodge brought to the table? i know this there still accepting bail out money!

K_style · 03-22-2011, 08:33 PM

NVMD !!

Davidna2fi · 03-23-2011, 08:22 PM

Chiming in here... I have yet to have a new Ford Ecoboost come into the shop lately, but I know for a fact that the engine was designed by a company Ford owns over in Sweeden... SAAB. I think SAAB has turbocharging down pretty good IMO, every turbo car needs maintence, if you don't maintain it, things break. I haven't had any SAABs come in to the shop for major failures, no turbo replacements, valve tick, injectors failing, etc. And most are over 140K on the clock due to the extreame distances ppl travel in Houston on their daily commute to and from work. I'm actually pretty confident that SAAB engineered this engine with little help from Ford truck division, and just said... more power more TQ... make it so!!!

*exitspeed* · 03-24-2011, 07:39 AM

Ummmm....Saab isn't owned by Ford...Spyker Cars NV does...and Ford doesn't own the them. And before the recent ownership change GM owned them.

So I have no idea what the fuck you are talking about.

statickx991 · 03-24-2011, 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exitspeed

Ummmm....Saab isn't owned by Ford...Spyker Cars NV does...and Ford doesn't own the company them. And before the recent ownership change GM owned them.

So I have no idea what the fuck you are talking about.

Correct!! ding ding ding. and chrysler is just screwed.

tqstarburst · 03-28-2011, 11:43 PM

Finished watching the videos,and i must say that im impressed with what Ford brought up to the table. Even though i have had shitty experiences with Ford and always thought of it as complete shit,i never thought i'd change my mind about it.

Flicktitty · 03-29-2011, 09:56 AM

I drove a Taurus SHO a few weeks after they came out, the power i thought felt very smooth. I just got a chance last week to drive a 2011 F150 with the new Eco-boost, and that puts my brothers 5.4L V8 in the 07 F150 to shame. they just sound kinda "goofy"

fyneyoungstunna · 03-29-2011, 11:58 AM

When all the domestics stop looking alike then I'll consider giving one a chance. Focus looks like a caliber, all the cryslers look alike, and ford...well I've rebuilt more than two ppl's shares of ford engines. Thank god for chevy and gm hahaha

*exitspeed* · 03-29-2011, 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fyneyoungstunna

When all the domestics stop looking alike then I'll consider giving one a chance. Focus looks like a caliber, all the cryslers look alike, and ford...well I've rebuilt more than two ppl's shares of ford engines. Thank god for chevy and gm hahaha

Chevy is a GM, and GM is domestic, therefore you also said all GM's look alike...

I don't see how this:

Resembles this at all:

They look nothing a like at all. Other then having, wheels, doors, and headlights.

lewisfk · 04-17-2011, 02:09 PM

Guys while in Texas i test drove the new F-150 ecoboost truck and it was great! I gave the guy my military id and he said go for it! I drove it around for almost an hour in the Austin area! Its got so much torque that i broke free a couple of times turning. The truck had little under half a tank so i drove it damn near to San Marcos TX and back to the dealership! I almost bought the damn thing there but i realized i wouldn't have room for my wife's friend to ride back with us to Cali! They also didn't give me a good trade in for my armada! they offered me 14500, carmax told me 15000 even! For some reason i only qualified for 2500 in rebates. Im going to wait for the 2012 to be out, when that happens the will give big rebates for the 10 & 11.
Let the wait begin!

K_style · 04-17-2011, 11:31 PM

One of my friend is looking into Ecoboost swap for S14... I will update if I hear any progress

JDMJNKY · 04-18-2011, 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheWolf

Being in the diesel pickup truck business, I've seen some good stuff from ford and I've seen alot of bone headed maneuvers over the last 5 years.. This is ford diesel pickups from the last 5 years...

things like..
Run truck out/low on gas, injectors hammer themselves to pieces.. it's ok.. new set only $2200. Surprise

Need to light off soot trap, we'll inject extra fuel into cylinders on exhaust stroke.. sure it won't cause washdown and premature wear.. result blown motor..

Next year.. since last years fuel into cylinder idea wasn't the best (but we won't admit or warranty it) we put an injector into the down pipe... soon duct tape will be standard...

result from both, exhaust pipe hot enough to light your pants on fire if you walk by.. melted body work..

EGR is cooled with onboard coolant.. EGR clogs.. engine overheats YAY!

Neither of the above ideas lasted longer than 2 years so this is the new and improved idea for 2011-2012.
Onboard 10 gallon chemical tank that injects a proprietary urea water into exhaust and a very high pressure. Good thing to. It's only $12 a gallon and should only need to be refilled every oil change!

and well.. on all these screw ups... we made one small boo boo.. um.. well... on these motors we kinda didn't put alot of headbolts on them but we did put alot of boost... and so when these things blow headgaskets there's a slight problem.. the last 4 bolts on each cylinder head are kinda trapped.. so we weren't kidding when on step one of headgasket replacement it said "Remove and Lift Cab 4 inches".

So would I run out and buy a new twin turbo'd direct injected variable cam computer controlled gas pickup? Not on their track record for the past 5-10 years with twin turbo'd direct injected diesel pickups.

Prob not.

I believe you here. However to say a company can never change is naive. Take Hyundai and Kia for example. They have re-invented themselves by changing or advancing technology. I'm not saying I'd run out and buy one either, but you can't ignore proven results. I'm a believer in that engine, still skeptical on FORD. No car manufacturer is perfect, but I'd love to have that engine in a project car if it wasn't $5,000+. The astounding part is the motor is not even huge, it's a v6 w/ a displacement of an engine found in a passenger car. Using 2 Garret GT15's....Those turbos are for 1.0L-1.6L engine and only net 100-150whp.

To say the least, it would be the best bet for a consumer to let them work out the real world kinks before buying the ecoboost system w/ it's revisions for 2011.

Quote:

Originally Posted by exitspeed

Bums me out they haven't put the Ecoboost in the Fusion yet as a real Sport model.

They have. It's not marketed because
1: It's an expensive engine, and it would drive up the price tag of a Fusion.
2: IT SLAYS MUSTANGS, FORD "bread winners' WITH EASE! ( if

Prime · 04-19-2011, 05:39 PM

Something I didn't notice anyone point out... Ford has done something really cool with the new Coyote 5.0, and I'm hoping they'll do the same thing with the Ecoboost. You can not only buy the motor in a crate from them, but they also sell a wiring kit designed for custom installations. Makes it nearly plug n' play for any chassis. If I had a few grand to drop, I'd be looking at putting one in my hatch. <3000lbs and 412 RWD horses?

Yes please.

BOROSUN · 04-19-2011, 06:08 PM

Got any site addy where you can check those crate motors

DHall243 · 04-19-2011, 06:16 PM

I was seeing a girl who had one, I gave that truck the baja experience....lol Ill probably buy one soon.

Prime · 04-19-2011, 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BOROSUN

Got any site addy where you can check those crate motors

Ford Racing Performance Parts for the motor and Ford Racing Performance Parts for the wiring kit.
For the 5.0. But as I said earlier. I'm hoping they do it with the Ecoboost motor. Especially considering it's already set for boost. They're both incredible motors, but without swapping pistons you won't be getting much of a blower strapped on @ 11:1 compression.

JDMJNKY · 04-19-2011, 08:54 PM

Not necessarily. All you will need to throw more boost at the ecoboost engine is higher octane, and a better tune. However if you just want dyno numbers/drag car I suggest use a cheaper engine. Using this would be a waste unless you bought it for what it is. A true economic beast. The reason why this motor works so well is because it is designed properly to begin with. Great fuel efficiency, great whp, great TQ. Does it have more potential assuredly, but you'll kill the "lure" of fuel efficiency.

High Compression + Twin GT15's = no lag

....so someone out there wants to buy this engine, go lower compression, bigger turbo(s) = back to lag for higher dyno numbers??? essentially the same as any other turbo setup on the market right now except those can be had @ 1/3 of the price. Pointless.

p.s.
Just my/one point of view, doesn't mean it's right.

Joel

Prime · 04-19-2011, 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDMJNKY

Not necessarily. All you will need to throw more boost at the ecoboost engine is higher octane, and a better tune. However if you just want dyno numbers/drag car I suggest use a cheaper engine. Using this would be a waste unless you bought it for what it is. A true economic beast. The reason why this motor works so well is because it is designed properly to begin with. Great fuel efficiency, great whp, great TQ. Does it have more potential assuredly, but you'll kill the "lure" of fuel efficiency.

High Compression + Twin GT15's = no lag

....so someone out there wants to buy this engine, go lower compression, bigger turbo(s) = back to lag for higher dyno numbers??? essentially the same as any other turbo setup on the market right now except those can be had @ 1/3 of the price. Pointless.

p.s.
Just my/one point of view, doesn't mean it's right.

Joel

Well, the only thing is you completely misunderstood me. But as a result, you agreed with me, so it's not like I'm mad.

I was talking about the V8 5.0 TI-VCT and swapping pistons, not the Ecoboost 3.7. The 5.0 runs at 11:1, not the Ecoboost. I don't even know the CR on it, but I doubt it's that high. Which was my point. It's already set to go for more boost.

For the most part, NA motors nowadays are hard to get much more power than they come with from the factory. They're just too efficient to begin with. If you want much more than what it's giving, you need to go forced. Less work and headache to push more into the 6 than any at all into the 8.

DHall243 · 04-20-2011, 02:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prime

I was talking about the V8 5.0 TI-VCT and swapping pistons, not the Ecoboost 3.7. The 5.0 runs at 11:1, not the Ecoboost. I don't even know the CR on it, but I doubt it's that high. Which was my point. It's already set to go for more boost.

Try 10:1 on the Ecoboost, Thats pretty high.

Prime · 04-20-2011, 02:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DHall243

Try 10:1 on the Ecoboost, Thats pretty high.

It's lower than the 5.0, and it's direct injected. Big difference there.

03-14-2011, 07:17 PM	#33
HyperTek Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 13,222 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	I like the motor and power output, but if i own a mustang it has to be a v8 __________________ Keep it Classy

03-14-2011, 08:35 PM	#37
pacotaco345 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: SoCal/Ft Worth TX Age: 27 Posts: 1,549 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	We had a '96 explorer with a v6 and an auto that had 230xxx miles on it before we sold it. When we sold it EVERYTHING on the car still worked, the only thing wrong with it was a timing chain rattle and half of us who own 240's with a ka deal with that on a daily basis. As long as you take care of your car, and keep up on the "secret recalls" that EVERY manufacturer puts out then you'll be fine. __________________

03-15-2011, 09:44 AM	#39
PoorMans180SX Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 33 Posts: 5,432 Trader Rating: (16) Rides Gallery: PoorMans180SX Feedback Score: 16 reviews	I work on Ford, GM, and Chrysler products every day from 1985 to 2010. I can say that yes, they have made long strides (well except for Chrysler), but they're still a ways away. I do think the new ecoboost engine looks really good and cool. The videos were awesome for sure. But even modern 4.6 and 5.4 exhaust manifolds still warp and rot off the engines along with the exhaust studs. And that kind of thing is such a pain in the butt. Until they fix those kind of problems, I'll stick with the Japanese import world. __________________ Build: http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=643065 Friends don't let friends buy knock-offs.

03-17-2011, 09:37 PM	#41
lewisfk Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2009 Location: North Austin, Texas Age: 40 Posts: 1,162 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	plain and simple the engine sounds great, the hype around it sounds great, but i will never buy a first year model anything! i own a nissan armada and that bitch is a beast! she takes away all my money on gas and i feel raped! I can tow to my hearts content and they stand out. Ford has made some radical changes in the last 5 years, and they may be the only one standing in a few years out of the big three. I swore to myself i will never buy a so called made in America vehicle until their actually are made in America and they can beat the other competitors hands down! Maybe in the next two years i will have an ecoboost in my garage! (maybe) what has chevy or dodge brought to the table? i know this there still accepting bail out money!

03-24-2011, 07:39 AM	#44
exitspeed aWingThing.com Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Milwaukee, WI Age: 41 Posts: 20,898 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Ummmm....Saab isn't owned by Ford...Spyker Cars NV does...and Ford doesn't own the them. And before the recent ownership change GM owned them. So I have no idea what the fuck you are talking about. __________________ What I do for a living...www.mhrussell.com Last edited by exitspeed; 03-24-2011 at 08:19 AM..

03-22-2011, 08:33 PM	#42
K_style Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Henderson, NV Posts: 7,666 Trader Rating: (63) Rides Gallery: K_style Feedback Score: 63 reviews	NVMD !!

03-23-2011, 08:22 PM	#43
Davidna2fi Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2008 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 513 Trader Rating: (18) Feedback Score: 18 reviews	Chiming in here... I have yet to have a new Ford Ecoboost come into the shop lately, but I know for a fact that the engine was designed by a company Ford owns over in Sweeden... SAAB. I think SAAB has turbocharging down pretty good IMO, every turbo car needs maintence, if you don't maintain it, things break. I haven't had any SAABs come in to the shop for major failures, no turbo replacements, valve tick, injectors failing, etc. And most are over 140K on the clock due to the extreame distances ppl travel in Houston on their daily commute to and from work. I'm actually pretty confident that SAAB engineered this engine with little help from Ford truck division, and just said... more power more TQ... make it so!!!

03-28-2011, 11:43 PM	#46
tqstarburst Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Texas Age: 29 Posts: 1,314 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Finished watching the videos,and i must say that im impressed with what Ford brought up to the table. Even though i have had shitty experiences with Ford and always thought of it as complete shit,i never thought i'd change my mind about it.

03-29-2011, 09:56 AM	#47
Flicktitty Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Wisconsin Age: 34 Posts: 3,685 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	I drove a Taurus SHO a few weeks after they came out, the power i thought felt very smooth. I just got a chance last week to drive a 2011 F150 with the new Eco-boost, and that puts my brothers 5.4L V8 in the 07 F150 to shame. they just sound kinda "goofy" __________________ 2JZ-GTE Swapped S13 Coupe - 1994 Supra Turbo

03-29-2011, 11:58 AM	#48
fyneyoungstunna Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: colorado springs Posts: 722 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	When all the domestics stop looking alike then I'll consider giving one a chance. Focus looks like a caliber, all the cryslers look alike, and ford...well I've rebuilt more than two ppl's shares of ford engines. Thank god for chevy and gm hahaha

04-17-2011, 02:09 PM	#50
lewisfk Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2009 Location: North Austin, Texas Age: 40 Posts: 1,162 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	test drive Guys while in Texas i test drove the new F-150 ecoboost truck and it was great! I gave the guy my military id and he said go for it! I drove it around for almost an hour in the Austin area! Its got so much torque that i broke free a couple of times turning. The truck had little under half a tank so i drove it damn near to San Marcos TX and back to the dealership! I almost bought the damn thing there but i realized i wouldn't have room for my wife's friend to ride back with us to Cali! They also didn't give me a good trade in for my armada! they offered me 14500, carmax told me 15000 even! For some reason i only qualified for 2500 in rebates. Im going to wait for the 2012 to be out, when that happens the will give big rebates for the 10 & 11. Let the wait begin!

04-17-2011, 11:31 PM	#51
K_style Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Henderson, NV Posts: 7,666 Trader Rating: (63) Rides Gallery: K_style Feedback Score: 63 reviews	One of my friend is looking into Ecoboost swap for S14... I will update if I hear any progress

04-19-2011, 05:39 PM	#53
Prime Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: California Age: 36 Posts: 444 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Something I didn't notice anyone point out... Ford has done something really cool with the new Coyote 5.0, and I'm hoping they'll do the same thing with the Ecoboost. You can not only buy the motor in a crate from them, but they also sell a wiring kit designed for custom installations. Makes it nearly plug n' play for any chassis. If I had a few grand to drop, I'd be looking at putting one in my hatch. <3000lbs and 412 RWD horses? Yes please.

04-19-2011, 06:08 PM	#54
BOROSUN Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: two legit to quit Age: 41 Posts: 5,211 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Got any site addy where you can check those crate motors

04-19-2011, 06:16 PM	#55
DHall243 Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: West Virginia Age: 30 Posts: 106 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I was seeing a girl who had one, I gave that truck the baja experience....lol Ill probably buy one soon. __________________ 1995 Nissan 240SX SE 2JZ w/R154

04-19-2011, 08:54 PM	#57
JDMJNKY Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: sOuL-CaL Age: 39 Posts: 774 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	Not necessarily. All you will need to throw more boost at the ecoboost engine is higher octane, and a better tune. However if you just want dyno numbers/drag car I suggest use a cheaper engine. Using this would be a waste unless you bought it for what it is. A true economic beast. The reason why this motor works so well is because it is designed properly to begin with. Great fuel efficiency, great whp, great TQ. Does it have more potential assuredly, but you'll kill the "lure" of fuel efficiency. High Compression + Twin GT15's = no lag ....so someone out there wants to buy this engine, go lower compression, bigger turbo(s) = back to lag for higher dyno numbers??? essentially the same as any other turbo setup on the market right now except those can be had @ 1/3 of the price. Pointless. p.s. Just my/one point of view, doesn't mean it's right. Joel __________________ Facebook.com/NiteGrind

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