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Old 08-10-2011, 12:11 AM   #31
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If they tried it then it's their own fault they got addicted

Cause I highly doubt someone put a gun to a dudes head and said "smoke this shit"

Addicts = addicts = worthless to society
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What, are addicts meaningful, contributing members to society? ..I don't think so.

I could be wrong though... I am, after all, a fucking idiot

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Not to generalize all drug users, but you have got to be either extremely masochistic, suicidal, or really stupid to do that crocodile drug today.
The drug's effects have been documented comprehensively, and the physiological are probably the most gruesome and fatal.
Would-be users know well enough what they're getting into.

Back to the video, what was most shocking was the procedure.
Looks really primitive chopping off the dude's bones & throwing that mess in the trash.
I wonder if he still felt anything, I would imagine so with all the nerves on the bone.
Could have knocked him out, but maybe that's just the norm in Russia.
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is it bad that I think they should distribute this in the local jail system. Might weed out the "criminals". Save us some money on taxes too. We can use that to donate more money to our ever growing economic uprising.
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Old 08-10-2011, 02:44 PM   #37
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is it bad that I think they should distribute this in the local jail system. Might weed out the "criminals". Save us some money on taxes too. We can use that to donate more money to our ever growing economic uprising.
and spend a fortune of our tax paying dollars on their medical bills.
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What, are addicts meaningful, contributing members to society? ..I don't think so.

I could be wrong though... I am, after all, a fucking idiot
I'm sorry but I'm with Eric on this one.

Drug addicts are a far cry from all the other sorts of criminals/felons that society typically associate with one another. (Murderers, burglers, rapists, child molestors) are not all cut from the same cloth.

Some just make poor choices and need our help to treat their disease, but not all deserve second chances.

JUST SAYIN'

P.S. Don't even get me started on prison reform.
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and spend a fortune of our tax paying dollars on their medical bills.
What? Just let them self medicate on more of this shit. The worse they get the more they take. This drug is a self remedy to removing the lowest dregs of society(life no parole, child killers, etc etc).

Also, just going from the statistics in the article, if there are 100k russians on this shit, then thats 100k less russian drug users in 2~3 years.

Win/win?
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I'm sorry but I'm with Eric on this one.

Drug addicts are a far cry from all the other sorts of criminals/felons that society typically associate with one another. (Murderers, burglers, rapists, child molestors) are not all cut from the same cloth.

Some just make poor choices and need our help to treat their disease, but not all deserve second chances.

JUST SAYIN'

P.S. Don't even get me started on prison reform.
Pretty much what I was trying to say (might have come out completely wrong though, haha).

Showed the first video to my little brother and his friends (13-14/in High School). The look on their faces was pretty bad. Hopefully it'll scare them straight. Pretty protective of him. I know all of his friends and know who/where he hangs out.

My girlfriend and I were talking about this yesterday. Looking back at our High School days now, I'm somewhat shocked at the amount of shit that was going on when we were in school. I mean, we all know it's happening, but it wasn't until now that we really comprehended the situation. MJ is pretty common and easily accessible (unfortunately), but so was Chrystal Meth.

Another reason why we want to move the hell away from this city.
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I heard about this drug a month or two ago, I don't understand what can be so good about it? U want your flesh to rot off your skin just for a 20-30min high? I just don't understand. Like others I've tried most drugs before but I really don't understand or grasp the concept of how there addicting. Weak minds I guess? This is disgusting. The pictures make me cringe.
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Pretty much what I was trying to say (might have come out completely wrong though, haha).
You made complete sense in your post. Most people probably didn't bother to read it though (unfortunately).

Maybe more people will now, and see the sense in what we're saying.
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I was thinking thats how you can kill zombies lol, it would get them to fall apart, but yeah i guess it does create them as well haha
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Addicts are people/family members too. Remeber that when you say all junkies deserve this shit. Just sayin..

I don't like the idea of addicts and I don't do the shit but think about it like the extasy associated with sex. If I could get that from a pipe I might be a junky too.

Nobody deserves the repercussions of this drug. Junkies may ruin there lives and everyone elses but they don't deserve this. It reminds me of the happening when everyone is killing themselves but it's beyond there control.

It's beyond me to debate people's strengths and weaknesses when it comes to addiction. It's easy to condemn someone else for their actions, especially if we don't know them, but who can relate? I've never had a strong enough physical desire for something that I simply could not deny. So I don't understand, prolly never will. I got a super diluted dose of narcotics after a surgery and it instantly made me vomit everywhere. I guess I don't know what to do with people who have serious drug addictions. But prison is not the answer, nor is rehab, nor is freedom, nor is a long painful death from this nasty 3rd world shit.
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That's fucked. And yeah, it's not the desomorphine that does the rotting, it's the fact that they're cooking this shit up with stuff they find at the hardware store and not purifying it, so they're shooting red phosphorus and iodine...
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But prison is not the answer, nor is rehab, nor is freedom, nor is a long painful death from this nasty 3rd world shit.


sorry couldn't resist.
instead of looking for answers, I think ppl should just be realistic with their expectations.
if you're getting into hard drugs, you can't kid yourself into thinking there are no risks.
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So this shit is the Crystal Meth of Heroin.

This is why I feel fighting drug use is pointless. People just find other stupid shit to get high off of.

Cocaine - Free Base - Crack - Meth

Mix prescription pills in a popcorn bowl with booze? Rotten Orange peals for a nicotine buzz.

Your never going to stop this shit, just legalize it, tax it and take a hard, heartless stance on abusers. (no welfare for users, no job rights for those that pop)
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no, this is the dirty cousin of heroin. the article said so
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Addicts are people/family members too. Remeber that when you say all junkies deserve this shit...

That is the exact problem.


Apparently you've never known or loved an addict. The sheer misery and suffering they put friends and families through is utterly insane. For them to constantly choose their drug over their life, children, lover, friends, family is simply disgusting and its even more heart wrench to watch these people do everything they possibly can to save this person. All the while the addict is playing off these peoples emotions and sympathies, blaming everyone else in the world and continuing on their selfish hypocritical bullshit physical and spiritual suicide.

Fuck these weak willed dregs of society and human filth.
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no, this is the dirty cousin of heroin. the article said so
Crystal meth is a hyper synthetic Crack

Krodile is a synthetic fucked super Heroin.
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Apparently you've never known or loved an addict. The sheer misery and suffering they put friends and families through is utterly insane. For them to constantly choose their drug over their life, children, lover, friends, family is simply disgusting and its even more heart wrench to watch these people do everything they possibly can to save this person. All the while the addict is playing off these peoples emotions and sympathies, blaming everyone else in the world and continuing on their selfish hypocritical bullshit physical and spiritual suicide.

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Its happening a lot differently in their heads.
And the addiction has control over everything.

The reasons interventions are successful is because the addict is sat down and realizes what they are putting the family through. They realize the family is for them, and against the drug, not just against them.

You learn this crap growing up with one of the best counselors out there as your mother.





Told a work friend, he read a bunch on it.

CLIFFs

Basically Heroin is kind of the worse drug out there, or was.
Its most addictive, and takes a few painful weeks to wear off when your kicking it.

The Krocidile Takes over a month to kick, and the entire time it is so painful that people regularly pass out, (from pain!!).

With addicts, and that amount of pain, they arent thinking long term. And if "just one more fix" will ease that kind of pain for a few hours, then fuck it.... (at that point, very few people in the world would be strong enough to say no and stop).

People dont just start Kroc, they usually cant afford Heroin at $40-$60 euro's or whatever, and Kroc is about $3 euro's.
So you see how an addict can easily try a hit (and its all over from there).
Hardcore drug addicts dont start at the end.
Its usually some pot, and coke at a party or two, and progresses from there.


Also, Kroc takes a half hour to make, and wears off in a couple hours and starts hurting, so your almost instantly living for it. Cloths and the Kroc addicts also smell like iodine so bad they cant even wash it out of the clothes.
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don't worry, eric, I read all of it!

while I do have some compassion for these users... initially... before all of this bullshit started destroying their bodies, they made the conscious decision to start using. they made the SELFISH decision to forget everything/everyone around them to get high.

I've dealt with addiction with quite a few people around me. I've seen/felt the pain it brings. some people will never understand that; some people will never even think about it before taking drugs.

that's kind of beside the point of this thread though. this drug looks INTENSE. definitely not something kids will be buying at parties though. seems like the already doomed speeding up the process. sad, but that's the reality of it.
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I have been telling people all the chemical, artificial shit is bad... stick to natural stuff, organic if possible

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^ that and the fact that they dont even know what secondary reactions are taking place while the actually make the drugs.
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i had a friend i knew since preschool tell me he had a heroin issue and wanted help getting off it when 2 people overdosed and died next to him
i took him to his house had him pack up 2 weeks worth of clothes
kept him in my house and did not go anywhere with out him helped him as much as i possibly could and we agreed to take him to a rehab center he spent 4 months there i picked him up he was alot happier to have kicked that habbit
he moved up to albany and is now working for this factory making toys

im really happy i helped someone that came to me in need
this shit is no joke
sure alot of users are scumbags and deserve to die but others made a mistake and need help getting off it
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I could be wrong though... I am, after all, a fucking idiot
I can think of a few addicts that have contributed to society in one way or another.
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I'm sorry but I'm with Eric on this one.

Drug addicts are a far cry from all the other sorts of criminals/felons that society typically associate with one another. (Murderers, burglers, rapists, child molestors) are not all cut from the same cloth.

Some just make poor choices and need our help to treat their disease, but not all deserve second chances.

JUST SAYIN'

P.S. Don't even get me started on prison reform.
In Arizona, PD statistics are showing that most of the burglaries are being committed by drug users, mostly meth (which for the most part are all Felonies). Hell, many of the crimes revolve around drug usage. Rapists and molesters are a different breed.

But point of the fact is, most people, even when treated relapse back into their addictions. Once you are in, your level to society drops and you never really can join. You either continue to use that drug, move onto something else or die from it.
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