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burgy240 · 12-31-2006, 06:41 PM

I don't have install pics but I just finished this project yesterday. I bought the Calipers from Ebay and rebuilt them myself after I had them powder coated "black chrome" I had a shop put the pistons into the cylinders and boots but I did the rest. The install was absolutely easy other than the cutting of the Brake shields. I just snipped them off completely down to the hub. ( I know I know, no dust shield, water gets on the rotors yadayadayada). I ran into a snag when the back right caliper bleeder stripped out. I have to replace the rear caliper or at least take it off and see if I can get out the bleeder valve. I love the upgrade because it is a subtle look but there is definately better brakeing power without messing up the brake bias. I would recomend this to anyone that wants a performance upgrade without the bling and the jackedd up brake bias of some of the other swaps. If anyone has questions I would gladly help them out.

Oh yeah, If anyone is interested in some black S14 SE front calipers, used rotors, and used pads, let me know

Dousan_PG · 12-31-2006, 06:44 PM

yeah q brakes are great stuff
good job on the instal
its easy as pie
i installed my friends. took 1/2 hour
in and out
done and done
speed bleeders save time

burgy240 · 12-31-2006, 06:47 PM

Yeah, It took all day for me because of the fact that I stripped the bleeder valve. Other than that it was a piece of cake. Just so you rookie's out there know,....That was the first time I ever did my own brakes by myself too. It really is the easiest brake upgrade for our cars.

smelly240 · 12-31-2006, 07:14 PM

u gotta spend that 5$ on the speed bleeders - and use line wrenches

what pads you using? the pad selection isn't as wide as the z32/r32 or the stock brakes - i know endless makes a pad for them

Irukandji · 12-31-2006, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by burgy240

stripped the bleeder valve. .

Vicegrips.. then go buy speedbleeders to make it a 30-45 min install.
I did my q45's this week also, couldn't be happier.

Fat Felix · 12-31-2006, 07:44 PM

Where's the best place to buy some speed bleeders?

Dousan_PG · 12-31-2006, 07:46 PM

online?
splparts.com

articdragon192 · 12-31-2006, 09:12 PM

Q45s are awesome. I have them on my 13 and couldn't be happer. Ran some Endless SS-S pads on them and they were great. The only pain was the dust shield.

Irukandji · 12-31-2006, 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by articdragon192

The only pain was the dust shield.

I just junked mine when doing 5 lug. made it much easier.

CKAMC · 12-31-2006, 11:34 PM

what year q brakes are yall running... from what I read there are some differences between the years... but my resource can be incorrect (or my memory).

OptionZero · 12-31-2006, 11:41 PM

IIRC it's 92-96...maybe '90-96

burgy240 · 01-01-2007, 08:58 AM

Mine are 96.....I am running akebono pads for now. I don't need speed bleeders because I have a hydrolic bleeder but the F-ing valves stripped. I 've tried all the tools mentioned above as well. I will be buying a new caliper/ replacing the whole thing unless I am able to get the bleeder out once the caliper is removed?

JesusFreakDrifter · 01-01-2007, 09:13 AM

only five lug? if i redrill the rotors, will i be able to fit them on s13 se's like the z32?

burgy240 · 01-01-2007, 09:34 AM

You should! I have an S14 so I don't want to garauntee it though.

Dousan_PG · 01-01-2007, 11:30 AM

yes they are exactly same style as z32
a bolt on job
z32 is just as easy to put on as q45
both u would have to redrill to 4 lug if u need 4 lug
for 5 lug, its a bolt on affair

but q45 u can use the stock q45 lines where as z32 you need conversion lines
unless you get z32 from a s14 jdm car because they can retain stock lines and are teh same as z32

the info is all over the net
this isnt a new swap/conversion/upgrade. people been doing it for like 5 years now.

Ninjabread · 01-01-2007, 12:43 PM

Aren't the Q45 lines the same the same as the 240's? Maybe i had just assumed that in my head...

Irukandji · 01-01-2007, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt89

Aren't the Q45 lines the same the same as the 240's? Maybe i had just assumed that in my head...

Yeah, that was already stated a few times in this thread.
q45 = use 240sx or q45 lines *same thing
z32 = conversion lines

burgy240 · 01-01-2007, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dousan_PG

the info is all over the net
this isnt a new swap/conversion/upgrade. people been doing it for like 5 years now.

That is why I just put up a quick thread instead of a full description and a detailed explanation. I used the stock S14 lines that were on the car already. As I stated before, the reason I went with the Q's instead of the Z's is the brake bias and the $ difference.

94cc0rd · 02-15-2007, 11:31 AM

is the use of a q45 brake master cylinder recommended or is the stock bmc good if i plan on doing q45 brakes up front only.

***FaLKoN240*** · 02-15-2007, 01:21 PM

I upgraded to Q brakes recently, and I noticed that I experienced more pedal travel. It goes to the FLOOR.

The brakes lock up and work fine, but the pedal softness is kinda lame.

I have a manual S13.

I heard from a friend I can use an auto S13 BMC to correct, does anyone know if this is true?

g6civcx · 02-15-2007, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 240FaLKoN

I upgraded to Q brakes recently, and I noticed that I experienced more pedal travel. It goes to the FLOOR.

The brakes lock up and work fine, but the pedal softness is kinda lame.

I have a manual S13.

I heard from a friend I can use an auto S13 BMC to correct, does anyone know if this is true?

You may want to swap over to a Z32 master cylinder. The booster should be okay if it's not leaking.

DP_Michelle G · 02-15-2007, 03:40 PM

I have q45's and i know what your talking about falkon. i'm swaping out the bmc these weekend and i'll be installing a z31 bmc hopfully that fixes it.

s13gold · 02-15-2007, 03:44 PM

cool deal man.

***FaLKoN240*** · 02-15-2007, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DP_Michelle G

I have q45's and i know what your talking about falkon. i'm swaping out the bmc these weekend and i'll be installing a z31 bmc hopfully that fixes it.

Lemme know how that goes, I really miss having a good pedal.

*!Zar!* · 02-15-2007, 10:19 PM

Which bias z32 bmc are you getting?

**mrmephistopheles** · 02-15-2007, 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 240FaLKoN

I upgraded to Q brakes recently, and I noticed that I experienced more pedal travel. It goes to the FLOOR.

The brakes lock up and work fine, but the pedal softness is kinda lame.

I have a manual S13.

I heard from a friend I can use an auto S13 BMC to correct, does anyone know if this is true?

No, you adjust the pedal/booster engagement.
Take the BMC off and extend the little rod a few 1/4 turns. 6 or 8mm wrench does the job.

***FaLKoN240*** · 02-15-2007, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrmephistopheles

No, you adjust the pedal/booster engagement.
Take the BMC off and extend the little rod a few 1/4 turns. 6 or 8mm wrench does the job.

OOo, ok, cool, I'll try that before I try replacing anything

*!Zar!* · 02-15-2007, 10:32 PM

Just make sure the brake pedal has some freeplay.

You don't want to have your brakes engaged at a stand still...

burgy240 · 02-16-2007, 02:01 PM

Let us know how that goes as I would like a stiffer pedal as well. Thanks

510skater · 02-27-2007, 10:37 PM

i just swapped j30 front calipers onto my s13 they are slightly smaller than q45's but the rotor size is the same...it was a very easy and cheap swap...50 for 2 calipers from the junk yard...and for both q and j30 swap 95 altima rotors are the correct size so you dont need to redrill the 5 lugs

12-31-2006, 06:41 PM	#1
burgy240 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Tampa Age: 45 Posts: 2,151 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Q45 brake install I don't have install pics but I just finished this project yesterday. I bought the Calipers from Ebay and rebuilt them myself after I had them powder coated "black chrome" I had a shop put the pistons into the cylinders and boots but I did the rest. The install was absolutely easy other than the cutting of the Brake shields. I just snipped them off completely down to the hub. ( I know I know, no dust shield, water gets on the rotors yadayadayada). I ran into a snag when the back right caliper bleeder stripped out. I have to replace the rear caliper or at least take it off and see if I can get out the bleeder valve. I love the upgrade because it is a subtle look but there is definately better brakeing power without messing up the brake bias. I would recomend this to anyone that wants a performance upgrade without the bling and the jackedd up brake bias of some of the other swaps. If anyone has questions I would gladly help them out. Oh yeah, If anyone is interested in some black S14 SE front calipers, used rotors, and used pads, let me know __________________

12-31-2006, 06:44 PM	#2
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 42 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	yeah q brakes are great stuff good job on the instal its easy as pie i installed my friends. took 1/2 hour in and out done and done speed bleeders save time __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

12-31-2006, 06:47 PM	#3
burgy240 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Tampa Age: 45 Posts: 2,151 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Yeah, It took all day for me because of the fact that I stripped the bleeder valve. Other than that it was a piece of cake. Just so you rookie's out there know,....That was the first time I ever did my own brakes by myself too. It really is the easiest brake upgrade for our cars. __________________

12-31-2006, 07:44 PM	#6
Fat Felix Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: El Monte, CA Posts: 739 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Where's the best place to buy some speed bleeders? __________________ megasonly.wordpress.com

12-31-2006, 07:46 PM	#7
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 42 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	online? splparts.com __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

12-31-2006, 07:14 PM	#4
smelly240 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Philaburbia Age: 43 Posts: 2,137 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	u gotta spend that 5$ on the speed bleeders - and use line wrenches what pads you using? the pad selection isn't as wide as the z32/r32 or the stock brakes - i know endless makes a pad for them

12-31-2006, 09:12 PM	#8
articdragon192 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: West covina/ Irvine Age: 35 Posts: 6,789 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Q45s are awesome. I have them on my 13 and couldn't be happer. Ran some Endless SS-S pads on them and they were great. The only pain was the dust shield.

12-31-2006, 11:34 PM	#10
CKAMC Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Desert Age: 34 Posts: 4,804 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	what year q brakes are yall running... from what I read there are some differences between the years... but my resource can be incorrect (or my memory). __________________

12-31-2006, 11:41 PM	#11
OptionZero Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Norcal Age: 37 Posts: 6,262 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: OptionZero Feedback Score: 2 reviews	IIRC it's 92-96...maybe '90-96

01-01-2007, 08:58 AM	#12
burgy240 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Tampa Age: 45 Posts: 2,151 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Mine are 96.....I am running akebono pads for now. I don't need speed bleeders because I have a hydrolic bleeder but the F-ing valves stripped. I 've tried all the tools mentioned above as well. I will be buying a new caliper/ replacing the whole thing unless I am able to get the bleeder out once the caliper is removed? __________________

01-01-2007, 09:13 AM	#13
JesusFreakDrifter Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: fort lauderdale Posts: 975 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	only five lug? if i redrill the rotors, will i be able to fit them on s13 se's like the z32?

01-01-2007, 09:34 AM	#14
burgy240 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Tampa Age: 45 Posts: 2,151 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	You should! I have an S14 so I don't want to garauntee it though. __________________

01-01-2007, 11:30 AM	#15
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 42 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	yes they are exactly same style as z32 a bolt on job z32 is just as easy to put on as q45 both u would have to redrill to 4 lug if u need 4 lug for 5 lug, its a bolt on affair but q45 u can use the stock q45 lines where as z32 you need conversion lines unless you get z32 from a s14 jdm car because they can retain stock lines and are teh same as z32 the info is all over the net this isnt a new swap/conversion/upgrade. people been doing it for like 5 years now. __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

01-01-2007, 12:43 PM	#16
Ninjabread Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Age: 32 Posts: 3,492 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: Ninjabread Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Aren't the Q45 lines the same the same as the 240's? Maybe i had just assumed that in my head... __________________ 613DriftWerks.ca

02-15-2007, 11:31 AM	#19
94cc0rd Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles, CA Age: 34 Posts: 2,390 Trader Rating: (8) Rides Gallery: 94cc0rd Feedback Score: 8 reviews	is the use of a q45 brake master cylinder recommended or is the stock bmc good if i plan on doing q45 brakes up front only. __________________

02-15-2007, 01:21 PM	#20
*FaLKoN240* Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 16,760 Trader Rating: (73) Feedback Score: 73 reviews	I upgraded to Q brakes recently, and I noticed that I experienced more pedal travel. It goes to the FLOOR. The brakes lock up and work fine, but the pedal softness is kinda lame. I have a manual S13. I heard from a friend I can use an auto S13 BMC to correct, does anyone know if this is true? __________________ Best way to do business with me? Make your best offer FIRST.

02-15-2007, 03:40 PM	#22
DP_Michelle G Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Anaheim/OC Age: 38 Posts: 666 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I have q45's and i know what your talking about falkon. i'm swaping out the bmc these weekend and i'll be installing a z31 bmc hopfully that fixes it.

02-15-2007, 03:44 PM	#23
s13gold Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: CARSON Posts: 4,240 Trader Rating: (79) Feedback Score: 79 reviews	cool deal man.

02-15-2007, 10:19 PM	#25
!Zar! Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: North Korea Posts: 14,576 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	Which bias z32 bmc are you getting? __________________

02-15-2007, 10:32 PM	#28
!Zar! Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: North Korea Posts: 14,576 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	Just make sure the brake pedal has some freeplay. You don't want to have your brakes engaged at a stand still... __________________

02-16-2007, 02:01 PM	#29
burgy240 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Tampa Age: 45 Posts: 2,151 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Let us know how that goes as I would like a stiffer pedal as well. Thanks __________________

02-27-2007, 10:37 PM	#30
510skater Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: SF Bay Area Age: 36 Posts: 108 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	i just swapped j30 front calipers onto my s13 they are slightly smaller than q45's but the rotor size is the same...it was a very easy and cheap swap...50 for 2 calipers from the junk yard...and for both q and j30 swap 95 altima rotors are the correct size so you dont need to redrill the 5 lugs

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