ixfxi

one thing ive always hated about the supra community


their use of the phrase BPU, which means nothing.

BPU my nuts.

BoostSlideWayz

im assuming u think it means nothing because u don't know what it means ? Technically i guess u can use the term for any car. Its just used more often with the supra forums and owners etc.

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ThatGuy

No, I know what it means, and I'm sure Mike does too, it is still worthless.

Yet Supra owners cling to it like it is some fucking Badge of Honor.

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BoostSlideWayz

I personally don't. I mean I think its used generally to give some one an idea of the upgrades they have done rather than telling some one every part the have.

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ixfxi

Bpu+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +

ThatGuy

Hahahaha, exactly Mike!

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BoostSlideWayz

ehh ohh well. the guy can make his own decision. both cars are great cars. either one he picks is a win.

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shortyman4065

exactly, thanks

Dirty Habit

Theres a church down the street where a red nsx is parked occasionally.. I stopped one day when I saw a guy standing next to it. Turns out he is a pastor and he refered to it as his only "vice."

LOL.

Cool guy. I still see it parked out there from time to time during the summer. Beautiful car.

GO NSX.



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shortyman4065

Yeah Im trying to convince him that he wants the Supra, so I can have the NSX haha lol.

BoostSlideWayz

You're friend is smart ha. u guys are lucky.... (hey i want the NSX) ( NO I want the NSX) or maybe ill pic the supra lemme think. ha good luck. and u HAVE to show us what car u got in the end.

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tricky_ab

I'm actually laughing my ass off because it's the truth...Good work!

shortyman4065

lol yeah for sure, I'll post pics up ASAP. They're both black, so I guess that kind of gives you an idea? But yeah I'll let you all know, and thanks again for all the comments.

ixfxi

I wonder where that money comes from.. hmm......


Here's what you get when a fuckin nerd named Mark Tozer claims he developed a fancy catch-phrase and decides to trademark it:
Toyota Supra FAQ Section - BPU™ - What Does It Mean?

...and in case they decide to one day eliminate the link, lets copy and paste for the good of humanity:

"BPU™ - What Does It Mean?
Basic Performance Upgrade™ (BPU™). This terms was coined by our founder Mark Tozer to best describe the basic set of performance modifications on a 1993-1998 Twin Turbo Supra. Instead of having to type out every basic mod a car had, we came up with this term. In it's simplest form it describes a Supra that is running elevated boost. In more detailed form the original BPU™ consisted of the following modifications:

I. Downpipe. The downpipe replaces the factory CATS and allows for quicker turbo spooling and 1-2 psi of boost increase. Good for around 35-40 HP.

II. Aftermarket Exhaust. Anytime you can free-up exhaust energy in a turbo car it is a good thing. The factory 2JZGTE engine with the BPU™ mods can flow quite a bit of exhaust gasses. Most aftermarket CAT-Back exhausts are good for around 15HP+ on a BPU™ Supra running 18psi of boost.

III. Elevated Boost (17-18psi+). The major gain in HP and torque (up to 440rwhp and 410 ft.lbs of torque to the wheels) comes when you increase the boost in a Twin Turbo Supra. Increasing the boost can be done via a manual bleeder which allows for higher boost, but no control over boost levels. Manual boost controller, which uses a manual valve for adjusting boost levels (non-electronic). Electronic Boost Controller (most popular), which allows for in-cabin adjustment and regulation of boost pressure.

IV. Boost Cut Controller (BCC). The GReddy BCC is an electronics interceptor device that modifies the manifold pressure signal (boost) to the factory ECU. The Toyota factory ECU in the 2JZGTE Supra has a factory imposed fuel-cut at 1 bar (14.7 psi) of boost. The BCC is adjustable and alters the factory fuel-cut level so higher boost can be run.

Those four items are the foundation of the original BPU™ FAQ written for MKIV and typically produce anywhere from 440-500 HP (crankshaft) on both automatic and 6 speed 2JZGTE equipped cars. Numbers vary upon state of tune and vehicle condition but the formula works and is run in hundreds upon hundreds of Supras. This BPU™ term has become so popular throughout the world and the NET that it is often quoted in magazines and even by other car owners when describing a Supra TT.

Trademark protection for BPU™ has been filed for by SupraStore.com."

Fucking douchebags.

spooled240

at first i was like "are you kidding me?! Supra FTW!!"

but looking at all the posts I'm kinda liking the NSX being like the "ferrari" of japan. I love the newer 2004 NSX's but they are still really expensive..the cheaper early 90's NSX's just look boring to me though.


'04 NSX > Supra

but

Supra > old NSX ........... IMHO

sleep

Are you serious? Are you completely unaware of the AMERICAN 2010 nissan GTR ? Only 1 model here dude.

Hope you have $120k under your mattress, or an $80k job in your back pocket......

Are you 16? A couple of your posts in this thread suggest you are below 18.

BoostSlideWayz

EXACTLY. Stop being mad that we have a term that others dont use.... u can use it for your car too. its not somthing thats only alowed to be used by supra owners lol.

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Tearlessj

Yea fuck Suprastore everyone hates them. I don't understand all the hate against Supras. Yes, they do have their share of dyno queens, but what car doesnt? Like someone mentioned earlier, Many Supras are road raced but they dont get much attention.

Supra handles better then the Nsx.
Supra is much faster.
Supra will out brake the NSX.

All i'm reading is either stereotype or hate against the owners.

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zenki.life

i have always been fond of the Nsx. they look much better that any supra. however the supra in terms of engine is boss.


but still NSX.

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^^another person learns the perils of "stupid posting" on zilvia, too bad none will care.

DETT

Totally depends on what he wants, if he wants something that handles really well then the NSX is absolutely amazing in that respect. I have driven three of them a 91, a 94, and a 01 and they are like oversized go-carts. The supra on the other hand is a pig, and handles like a sherman tank, however with enough money and I mean ALOT of money due to the fact that the chassis is known for not being the most structurally sound and having very bad flex it needs alot of reinforcement. But again with enough money anything can be quick.

Basically Nsx if he wants to have a very fun car that gets ALOT of attention especially from girls vs Supra which is usually seen as the king of highway pulls which in its own right gets a lot of looks as well. Kinda a win-win situation

DETT

Negative ghost rider, there are plenty of example of 32,33, and 34 GT-S and GTS-Ts residing in the states, not necessarily legal but they are here and state titled or, quite simply not titled at all like my BNR32 for offroad and track use only.

EDIT: Also to tearlessJ, you are wrong, wrong, and guess what wrong. The NSX vs the Supra in stock to stock is a shut out on a track, drag strip yes the supra takes the cake but who the fuck cares? As I have stated the supra in stock suspension form knows how to do 2 things spin in a turn or understeer treacherously trying to keep the rear end from wagging. I have seen plenty nsx's lay a smack to people that think they were fast in modded supras. I am not hating on the JZA80 it is a milestone in the japanese performance cars right there with the Skyline and NSX but in stock form the design is slightly flawed especially our USDM cars, they were meant to be heavyweight luxury touring/semi-sport when marketed to america. Finding a hardtop is getting harder and harder most are targas which makes the structural rigidity hampered heavily read my above post. Both have their plus and minuses.

Yes the supra can be set up for road race, have you ever priced how much it takes to get that car there? It isn't cheap, but as I have said throw enough money into anything and it will go fast, but I will say it again the NSX is the better platform to start off with for a road race setup, lower CoG, better suspension, stronger frame, and dare I say a better layout with the MR setup.

I am in no way bashing supras, not in the slightest but just speaking basic truths. I share no brand loyalty when it comes to japanese sports cars like most do, I have owned an Evo, 350z, S2000, driven quite a few STis, owned a jdm RHD Honda Integra Type R, and pretty much driven them all and I honestly can't hold a grudge against a brand they all make amazing performance cars. From toyotas supra, all-trac celicas, chasers, Nissans skylines, and z cars and silvias, right down to Mitsu and Suby and of course honda. I love them all, although I am known to side with nissan slightly more and the skyline series

Edit #2: also spooled 240 they make front end conversions to the 04 spec fronts just thought I would throw that in.

ThatGuy

Uhh, actually, NO we can't. At least not if they get their Trademark approved.

That is why it is completely fucking stupid.

I guess old muscle car guys should have trademarked "Basic Bolt Ons", or "Cam Only", since those were terms they invented to describe their level of modification.

Supra owners and their retarded ass claims about their Dyno results Supra BPU++++++++++++++++++++++ are fucking annoying.

If you don't want to tell people what you have done, fine, don't tell them. Coining an acronym because you're too fucking lazy to say "Basic Bolt Ons" or "Basic Upgrades" is ridiculously asinine.

Fuck Supra owners for "inventing" BPU, and Fuck Super Street for "inventing" JDM. Stupid, worthless terms.

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xBlastoisex

get the NSX.. then dumb hoes will think its a Ferrari lol jockin his shit

ixfxi

oh really, really? can i?!?!?!!?

fuck that shit.


hahahahaha

supra handles better, eh? and brakes better? hahahaha no.


funny thing is, a friend of a friend told me a few years ago that he took out this chick in his NSX... trying to get some tail. Girl got tired of his shit, for some reason she didnt like the guy (no way, a girl who doesnt like a cocky fuck of a guy with a fancy car) and she specifically told him:

"fuck you and your fake ferrari"

what a kick in the nuts. just goes to show that a guy with a fancy car cannot and does not replace a guy with good game. fact of life, boys.

xBlastoisex

lol dude thats epic. and yes a guy with a good game wins everytime... DAPS

driftsilvias13

HAHAHAHHA that made me laugh so hard!

Stupid. What kind of attitude is that? Are you proud of this term "BPU"? This is ridiculous.

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Devil Man

wow im glad im not the only one in the world that thinks like you guys do.

OP- tell your friend look nick hogan owned a supra.. and look at him.

i vote nsx.

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vvtisupra

Oh boy this is fun.

A bunch of you kids watching too much jdm bull shit


USDM Supra out performs USDM nsx stock for stock

brakes yes
handle yes
acceleration yes

well that is if you want to bench race

Just because one car can beat another car on track doesn't mean anything more than one driver being better than the other.


I like how a lot of you guys are commenting on how the supra handles when none of you have ever either driven one of the cars.

Yah the car is heavy....but so are a lot of other cars big woop. 240's weigh nothing compared to these cars and they still handle like shit.

With that said i'd probably take the NSX

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S14_Kouki

this should have been a poll

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ixfxi

I've handed Supra's their assholes at the track, and that is with my piece of shit non-handling S13. Great acceleration, not so great braking and handling.


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