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10-01-2010, 04:11 AM | #1 |
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Dif fan controller needs cutoff switch
Is there a way to keep the fans from coming on until i want them to come on?
I'm asking because when it's cool like this in the morning i want to keep the fans off until the thermostat opens or else the fans actually work against me. Some advice would be nice. Maybe somebody already tried this. |
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10-01-2010, 05:15 AM | #2 |
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No ideas?
Can I splice into the signal wires that go to The Sr temp gauge sensor? Or do I just splice The power going to the controller? My only worry with that is I'm not sure if the fan controller always needs a constant. THe reason why I say this is because when you first hook up the controller your need to put it at certain settings for recognition and then once they come on you can set them however. so I wonder if I splice the power that maybe it erases that recognition and you basically have to start all over with the setup. |
10-01-2010, 07:54 AM | #3 |
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I have a diff fan controller and my fans don't come on until the desired temp has been reached, via the settings on the controller. If you wired the controller right it should be getting a signal from your water temp sensor anyways.
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10-01-2010, 09:29 AM | #4 | |
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Oh no it's wired right. It comes on when I need it to but the only probem is that the temp in the motor is different from the temp in the radiator so the fans come on prematurely keeping the fluid cold in the radiator which doesn't allow the stat to open. Thus making the car overheat. |
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10-01-2010, 10:18 AM | #6 |
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i cant get my DIF controller to work at all with the sr temp sensor. i have called them for support and still nothing works.
im thinking this thing is hit or mis. also can even get it to program properly |
10-02-2010, 11:12 PM | #12 |
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i would think that if your fans are turning on and the car is over heating then there is two causes. Either you don't have enough fluid in your radiator/slash motor. For instance if you drained all of the radiator fluid and then replaced it but didn't start the car and wait for the thermostat to open and add more fluid this will cause your car to overheat no matter how well your fans are working. Second, would be a blown head gasket. I have been running this fan controller for the past two years and I haven't had any issues with it. My car never over heats or anything like that. just my 2 cents.
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10-02-2010, 11:15 PM | #13 | |
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Without your thermostat you wouldn't get to "operating temperature" in the winter for a long time, if ever, keeping your motor cold. Cold is not good.
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10-04-2010, 01:36 AM | #14 | |
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AND I'm not 100% for certain but I don't think it's a head gasket. There's no signs. I took the thermostat out this weekend and it did just fine. it got up to 180 and stayed there. But I can't keep it out forever. With your fan controller do you have it hooked up to the coolant temp sensor? OR some accessory probe that's in the radiator? |
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10-05-2010, 12:12 PM | #15 |
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it is hooked up to the coolant temp sensor. have you tried replacing the thermostat? I am just a little confused on what your problem is. You want to add a manual cutoff switch so your fans don't come on but then you said that your fans come on and your car over heats. If your fans are running and your car is overheating than it you have to have a problem either with your thermostat, head gasket, or water pump. Have you pulled your thermostat to see if it stuck shut or drained your oil to see if it is milky looking? To me it seems as if your fans are working correctly.
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10-06-2010, 07:26 AM | #16 |
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My problem is that when it's cool outside the motor heats up, so the fluid in the motor is then warm. TIe fluid in the radiator is still cool though until it etkkx mixes together. Within this time the fluid in the motor is just getting hotter. Since the coolant in the radiator isn't hot yet the thermostat won't open. even though the temp of the motor Is now 200. THe fans then kick on because of the heat and now THE coolant in the radiator is just staying the same if not getting cooler.
THere is no milky oil so I'm positive it isn't the head gasket. Am I making any sense? |
10-09-2010, 07:08 PM | #17 |
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Amen brotha. i can't get this crap to work at all! I even hooked up a switch to override it and still nothing! Anyone else has something else that would work?
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10-10-2010, 07:55 AM | #18 |
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a fan controller is a completely overpriced and uneccessary thing...
all u have to do is run the fans thru relays and ignition.... a thermostat breaks i.e locks shut...i cut the center out to allow flow restriction.. there r two types of bad head gaskets .. water into oil leak...or combustion into water.... u can test the combustion leak with a simple tester.. if ur car over heats and u r sure it not leaking any where u have heater hooked up.. every time u open water system... u need to take special care with bleed it properly.. cause theres plenty of places air pockets can hide... does the overheating rise and lower due to driving speed? if so air pocket...if not ..w/p..thermo..water leak..or combustion
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10-10-2010, 10:01 AM | #19 | |
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And yes the car does rise in temperature when I increase speed, or when there's load. So now that I think I figured out where the source of my problems are I just have to fix it. My question is, can I seal the leak up with something but at the same time prevent sludge or anything of that nature from building up in the motor? |
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10-10-2010, 10:03 AM | #20 |
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When you first install the dif fan controller there is a small setup that you have to do. You need to turn fan 1 to 0 and fan 2 to 2, I think. Apparently in the instruction manual it requests that you do this for some recognition purposes or something like that. I'm not exactly sure but if you did not do this setup than that might be the culprit.
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10-10-2010, 03:35 PM | #22 |
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i have talked to the guys at DIF on the phone while working with the fan controller and still couldnt get it to work properly. they told me they would call me back and never did...that was months ago.
piece of shit in my book. |
10-10-2010, 05:56 PM | #25 |
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how long did you allow the system to try to bleed???
I do everything by the book but... I let my car idle for about 10mins and pour coolant then rev the motor to about 2-3k to force the system bleed itself clear and pour in more coolant..It works everytime
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10-10-2010, 06:23 PM | #26 |
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Although I didn't rev It, I did let the car idle for at least 15 minutes while lightly squeezing the upper radiator hose to help with the process. AND still bubbled.
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10-10-2010, 07:02 PM | #29 | |
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Sounds bit crazy to rev the motor while pouring coolant,but works.
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10-10-2010, 08:28 PM | #30 |
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it sucks everybody is having so many problems with this controller. I wired it up as per the instructions and it runs my altima fans perfectly. I have a nismo thermostat and one fan kicks on according to my "A" setting and the second kicks on according to my "B" setting. I have been running it for 2 years now and I use to live in Savannah and I didn't have any problems with keeping my engine cool.
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