wangan_cruiser

uhhh manny didnt asked for that. since manny has a schedule of fight on march 13 they need to fill that in.

theronin

if manny had nothing to hide then he would be all for it.

i love how you mayweather haters say this is him trying to get out of a fight. hilarious.

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BOROSUN

Who has the right to make demands, right now?

ESmorz

Wait, so the fight isn't happening?

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1on1

no more since they couldnt do an agreement.

as much as i love both boxers, mayweather did talk a lot first. dont you guys remember the post interview of him after the fight? yes i understand he's undefeated but has a lot of balls to talk but won't walk. yes he loves money but the 50/50 split i believe is even enough. even though pacman didnt want to do the olympic testing, i would understand his situation. majority of everyone is looking down at pacman as if he's cheating but who cares, stop assuming. like i said my opinion still stands on what i think and if you haven't read it it's on page 2.

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ESmorz

Never seen either fight, don't care about either.

If both would submit to the same test at the same time, seems very suspect not to agree to it. Cheating or not it just looks bad, and stupid.

Isn't he supposed to be getting into politics and such? Maybe he is just training for that.

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shishcabobers

Since the fight is not happening I mean.

silverarrow27

Off topic, but I've seen so many people use the word 'suspect' in sentences wrong lately. What does it mean for you guys? Suspect to me is just someone that may have commited something such as a crime or action.

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Flipzide

Saw this on mannypacquiao.ph just to add fuel to the fire...

News - IOL Sport: Manny's Xmas gift to Floyd - a lawsuit

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thagremlin

looks like pac-man just verbally punked mayweather.. haha.. now lets see what money has to say about that

ESmorz

Why not just do the fucking drug test, and then knock his ass out in the ring?

Am I missing something?

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wangan_cruiser

uhhh yeah. need to read the statement?

Matej

The 'statement' only made him sound whiny in my opinion, without listing any good reasons why he can't be the better man and just agree to the test.
I don't know anything about fighting though.

BOROSUN

why doesn't mayweather just take a fight with cotto or mosley, now. if he really wants that olympics drug test.

i like what they did. sue his ass and put pressure back to him. great job pacquaio team.

Matej

A true manly man hardcore fighter bro would fight anyone anywhere anytime, even if he has not slept or eaten for a week. Especially if it is against someone he really wants to fight.
Unless he has embraced his stardom and became one of those fighters who can only fight after their manicurist does their nails, like Van Damme's brother in Kickboxer.
And if there really is a lawsuit for defamation of character, that is just pathetic. Seems like Pacquiao is just as much of a tool as Mayweather.

codyace

I'll drink to that!

Seriously, this fight is becomming sillier by the day. Man up, and fight if you ask me. People wonder why boxing has lost it's appeal...well this media battle serves as a prime example.

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1on1

both sides should stfu and just get on with the fight. unless mayweather needs more training...

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BOROSUN

wow really?

well, what if everybody here on zilvia and all of the forum you go to called you....gay lord fucker.? or maybe just gay or homo or *pinked* or dick lover.

or are you saying your more of a man than pacquiao and could take this kind of abuse?

BOROSUN

this fight would have been a GO, if mayweather didn't made such bs demands in the first place. is he that scared of a roid up manny? doesn't he have any confidence of his skill prevailing.?

wangan_cruiser

talk about pacquaio is tool like mayweather. who started talking shit from the first place? and i dont think pacquaio would do all this lawsuit. just looking back on his previous fight it never went this far.

if mayweather didnt opened his loud mouth from the first place. he could just wait and let things go through and we can have a bs free pre -fight

anthony240

All you Mayweather cocksuckers need to stfu about "why doesn't he agree to the tests?" Pacquiao had already AGREED to blood tests 30days prior to the event and right after. How's that not good enough? Oh yea, Mayweather wants not just any rep from the US Anti-Doping Agency, they wanna hand pick one as well. WTF? Fuck me with a silver spoon if there's a drug out there that enhances an athlete for exactly 30days and sweats it out during a fight, just in time for the post fight drug test.

Enough IS enough, Mayweather's running like the bitch that he is. Pacquiao has already proven his greatness. He doesn't need this fight. He doesn't need to prove to Mayweather or all these haters that hard work doesn't pay off!!!! Is it so hard to believe that a person's spirit is enough to fuel him through 12 rounds of intense cardio? Yea, since baseball players can't, no one else can. Fuck this American social logic.

I've lost what little respect I have for Floyd Mayweather, and still don't get you people that would take his side. His idiocy has overtaken skills. Oh but if Pacquiao has fans then it must be a bandwagon?! What you think you're on when you hate on Pacquiao?! A motherfuckin bandwagon.

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thagremlin

^^^^ very well said.. could not agree more..

Flipzide

lol the thing is that with mayweather, there will always be bullshit before a fight.

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wangan_cruiser

i guess its a pre-fight ritual. gotta talk loud so you can contain the fear of losing.

bboyt3nsk

Im not a boxing fan and have been trying to keep up with these shananigans. They both need to take the drugs tests and fight.

Pacman needs to put his dignity down for a sec and pee in a cup take some blood then jump in the ring then make money. International professional athletes are subject to this and are not above this anymore. Theres too many drugs that you can slip that can be undetectable in some tests like HGH.

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1on1

exactly, what i was thinking this whole time...

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anthony240

Studies show that stamina DECREASES when using Human Growth Hormone, so it's not even beneficial to a boxer, which is why these types of tests are not required.

Pacquiao doesn't have to put his dignity down for anyone, especially to someone who doesn't have any. He's already agreed to the tests up to 3-4days before the fight. Why the buffer zone? Because he doesn't wanna worry about being woken up at 3AM the night before the fight to have blood taken, yes this shit is THAT random. Besides they'll do the test after the fight, so there's no way around it. And it's not because he's afraid of needles.

It is Mayweather who has to agree to this REASONABLE compromise of an UNREASONABLE issue.

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wangan_cruiser

update


Megafight talks take another strange twist - Boxing - Yahoo! Sports



Negotiations to finalize a lucrative boxing match between Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather Jr. took another bizarre twist Friday as Pacquiao threatened libel lawsuits and the chief executive officer of Golden Boy Promotions was accused of telling a Filipino journalist that Pacquiao is using performance-enhancing drugs.

Pacquiao promoter Bob Arum said Friday that reporter Ronnie Nathanielsz of the Manila Standard told him that in September, Nathanielsz was in the Golden Boy offices in Los Angeles when Richard Schaefer accused Pacquiao of using PEDs.

Schaefer, whose company is representing Mayweather in a fight expected to be the largest-grossing in history, recalls meeting Nathanielsz in his downtown Los Angeles office but denied the allegations.

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Manny Pacquiao denies taking steroids.
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Nathanielsz, whose newspaper has not reported the alleged conversation, declined via email to comment.

Talks to finalize the bout between the two best pound-for-pound fighters in the world hit a snag on Tuesday when Mayweather issued a statement demanding “Olympic-style drug testing” administered by the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency. Top Rank, on behalf of Pacquiao, declined and the sides have exchanged bitter words since.

On Friday, Arum said he spoke on the telephone late Thursday with Winchell Campos, a Pacquiao publicist. Arum said Campos told him Pacquiao planned to file a lawsuit against Mayweather, Mayweather Sr., Golden Boy Promotions and Schaefer for allegations Pacquiao says they made without evidence that he is on performance-enhancing drugs.

Arum said he tried to talk Campos out of issuing a statement from Pacquiao announcing plans for the suit. But Arum said Campos then put Pacquiao on the telephone and that Pacquiao was as angry as he has ever heard him.

“Manny is usually this mild-mannered guy, but he was unbelievably angry,” Arum said. “I never heard him like that. He told me to make it stop. This was a different Manny than I’d ever heard. When I hung up, I said, ‘What the hell was that about?’ ”

When he spoke to Nathanielsz by telephone 30 minutes later, Arum said Nathanielsz recounted a meeting in Schaefer’s downtown Los Angeles office in the buildup to the Sept. 19 fight in Las Vegas between Mayweather Jr. and Juan Manuel Marquez in which he alleged that Schaefer told him Pacquiao was using performance-enhancing drugs.

Arum, who flew to Mexico on Friday for a week-long vacation, said Nathanielsz’s comments clarified things for him. He said he had been puzzled by Mayweather Sr.’s public allegations against Pacquiao, but said they began to make sense after speaking with Nathanielsz.

“Ronnie said he came over early for the [Mayweather-Marquez] fight and he met with Schaefer,” Arum said. “He said they met for a half hour and that Schaefer went on and on and on that Manny is a cheater and that Manny uses steroids and that Manny was on performance-enhancing drugs.

“Ronnie asked him, ‘Why would you take this attitude with this young man?’ Ronnie told me he thinks Schaefer is pissed off that Manny chose us over Golden Boy, though Schaefer is happy to take the money.”

Pacquiao signed promotional contracts with both Golden Boy and Top Rank in 2006. Golden Boy president Oscar De La Hoya met Pacquiao at Los Angeles International Airport and gave him a suitcase filled with $250,000 in cash, which Pacquiao later was forced to return, as an inducement to sign.

Lawsuits were filed and the matter was eventually settled in arbitration by retired judge Daniel Weinstein. Weinstein ruled Pacquiao would be promoted by Top Rank, but that Golden Boy is entitled to a percentage of profits in perpetuity from all Pacquiao fights as long as Top Rank had Pacquiao under contract.

Arum said he has asked his attorneys to have the arbitration reopened and have Golden Boy eliminated since Schaefer’s actions were not in the fighter’s best interests.

Schaefer said Nathanielsz has had a good relationship with Golden Boy, particularly with its matchmaker, Eric Gomez. Schaefer admitted he hosted Nathanielsz in his office, but denied he made any accusations about Pacquiao and performance-enhancing drugs.

“I would never accuse anybody of anything and those who know me know that’s just not the way I am,” Schaefer said Friday. “I would never go and allege anybody is doing anything, so that is absolutely not true that I would have said to anybody that Manny is cheating. I didn’t.

“We have a pretty good relationship with Ronnie. I think Eric does. He came to see our offices, but there was no accusation of cheating. And in this process, over the last few days or weeks, not once did you hear me say, to you or to anyone else, that I am accusing Manny of taking anything or doing anything illegal.”

Schaefer also questioned why, if Nathanielsz had such information, that he had not reported it.

Mayweather Sr. began inferring that he suspected Pacquiao was on steroids or some other performance-enhancing substance in September, not long after Nathanielsz visited the Golden Boy offices.

After Pacquiao’s victory over Miguel Cotto on Nov. 14 in Las Vegas, Mayweather Sr. suggested to Yahoo! Sports reporter Martin Rogers that Pacquiao’s improvements were not natural.

“You know there is something going on with him,” Mayweather Sr. told Rogers. “If I was Floyd I wouldn’t fight him because of that. It just don’t add up. Take a look at them old pictures, man. That’s a different dude. And he got knocked out when he was 30 pounds lighter, but now he can stand there and take Cotto’s best shots? Come on.”

Arum reiterated Friday that Pacquiao is clean and said the fight can be salvaged if Mayweather backs off his insistence that testing be administered by USADA. USADA’s procedures demand random testing up to and including the day of competition.

Pacquiao has an aversion to giving blood close to an event, both Arum and his adviser, Michael Koncz, have said, believing it weakens him. Arum said Pacquiao would submit to testing if it were done under the auspices of the Nevada Athletic Commission.

“They’re corrupted in this thing; they’re complicit,” Arum said of USADA. “Both sides here know the people involved in the Nevada Athletic Commission. It can handle the testing and we can work out a protocol that will prove Manny is not on anything and that won’t interfere with the fight.”

Leonard Ellerbe, the CEO of Mayweather Promotions and the fighter’s closest friend, refused to say Friday whether his side would accept testing done by any group other than USADA, as it has demanded.

Ellerbe said he and Mayweather adviser Al Haymon came up with the idea to require the testing, not Mayweather Jr., as a way to protect their fighter.

“We’re waiting to see if Manny Pacquiao is going to do the Olympic-style drug testing,” Ellerbe said. “The bottom line is that neither Top Rank, nor Manny’s camp, nor Mayweather Promotions or Golden Boy Promotions are going to dictate how the blood and urine testing is conducted.

“I understand this could be the biggest fight in the history of the sport, but all money ain’t good money. You can’t put a price tag on anything when it comes to a man’s livelihood. The fighters are the only ones stepping up, putting their lives on the line. It’s the fighters who are putting their lives on the line, not me, not Top Rank, not Golden Boy, not Al Haymon. Our responsibility here is to protect the interests of our guy and that’s what we’re doing.”

In his statement in which he threatened to sue, Pacquiao denies taking steroids and said he didn’t sue Mayweather Sr. earlier because he didn’t want to create distractions during his preparations for Cotto.

“I maintain and assure everyone that I have not used any form or kind of steroids and that my way to the top is a result of hard work, hard work, hard work and a lot of blood spilled from my past battles in the ring, not outside of it,” Pacquiao said in his statement. “I have no idea what steroids look like and my fear in God has kept me safe and victorious through all these years.

“Now, I say to Floyd Mayweather Jr., don’t be a coward and face me in the ring, mano-a-mano and shut your big, pretty mouth, so we can show the world who is the true king of the ring.”

Arum said he plans to continue parallel negotiations with Lou DiBella, who promotes Paulie Malignaggi, and plans to resume those talks on Monday for a Pacquiao-Malignaggi fight on March 13.

Malignaggi has suggested Pacquiao may have taken performance-enhancing drugs and Arum said Pacquiao would agree to some type of testing administered by a regulatory agency like the Nevada Athletic Commission to quell those fears.

napaKAliboog

This is so stupid... I know for a fact he doesn't take steroids all he does is drinks and smokes cigs (once in a while) Money *pinked* is the real cheating mofo just like the foos that told the USCHEADAs to mess with a couple ali needles. They have a fucked up history it's no conspiracy nether. Your going to trust a division that allows aspartame in diet soda and chewing gum, let alone retarded ass psych-meds...and he's filipino so of course he has a ton of people (mostly US NURSES) also telling him this shit. See he can't just say this type of shit out in the open though for obvious reasons...