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07-04-2008, 03:24 PM | #1 |
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Drifters upset with Formula D rule book
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/07/04/d...a-d-rule-book/
Professional drifting series, Formula D, is trying to quickly win over fans and competitors in order to become one of the top forms of motorsport in the United States. As folks have learned in the markets this past year, though, rapid growth does not come without some giant bumps in the road. It looks like Formula D has now slid into a wall with a few of its teams. Confusion surrounding the series rule book has come to a head in discussions at Drifting.com. The rules state that any change to a vehicle's OEM suspension design must be approved by Formula D. Of course, a visual inspection of every car lined up for a run at a Formula D event proves that no one is utilizing 100% OEM suspension components. Aftermarket coilovers, adjustable control arms and urethane bushings are all-too-,common modifications seen throughout the pits. Therefore, there must be a list available to competitors outlining the approved components for all competing vehicles. No such list is available, however. That means teams have no method of verifying that other competitors are following the rules, other than the fact an entry passed Formula D's own tech inspection. Current discussion is making a case for the use of vehicle technical sheets as found in series such as SCCA Speed World Challenge to list all allowable modifications for approved competition vehicles. One particular team lies behind the call for rule revisions, while other concerned competitors back up their request for clarification. The vocal team is the group behind the Super Autobacs Nissan Skyline, which was recently deemed ineligible for competition by Formula D. The series organizers claim the Skyline features illegal front suspension modifications by using the OEM parts off a Nissan Laurel. However, the RWD Scion tC campaigning in the series is eligible despite also using suspension parts from another Toyota vehicle that shares the same chassis. The rules become particularly unclear when other vehicles are allowed to run with obviously altered suspension setups. 350Zs have altered the mounting points of their rear axles and Chevrolet Corvettes have converted from leaf springs to coilovers. Hopefully, Formula D can learn from this tussle and develop a fair and documented method of approving vehicle,s rather than leaving everyone in the dark.
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07-04-2008, 03:57 PM | #4 |
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I don't know much of the politics behind FD but it must be pretty good for them to have factory-backed cars in the championship, maybe worth bending the rules to make sure those cars get to drive.
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07-04-2008, 04:36 PM | #8 |
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Really funny. Seems as if politics is definitely an issue. Plain and simple, "they" are scared of they Autobacs Skyline and will nit pick on anything in order to make sure it doesnt become a threat to them. Hopefully in the future, guidelines will be set, the skyline will meet "the standards" to qualify and come out and kick ass.
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07-04-2008, 05:21 PM | #10 |
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I say that's bullsh*t... Let be serious, modified suspension because they used components from a Nissan Laurel? It's pretty much the same damn car, we all know how nissan likes to share components from chassis to chassis. How bout Rhys Millen's GTO and solstice? they were as close to race cars as anyone can get with out being full on tube frame race cars. Then there's the Tanaka (?) corvette, I've never, ever, seen a front suspension like that before. IMO Formula D sucks, Let people run what ever they want as long as it's not tube framed and other crazy stuff.
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07-04-2008, 05:39 PM | #12 |
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EVERY CAR MADE FOR DRIFTING AND BEEN MODIFIED FROM OEM!!!!!
They have got to be kidding "to become one of the top forms of motorsport in the United States." Really???
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07-04-2008, 05:47 PM | #13 |
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I always have talked shit about the stupidity and favortism of Formula D and praised D1.
this just proves it. Formula D, the new NOPI fucking idiots (you like how i am misspelling the second word after stupidity |
07-04-2008, 06:11 PM | #15 |
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Hahaha.
Hahahahahaha. The only rules should be: 1. No cars without aero. 2. No cars with wheel gap and/or sunken wheels. 3. No cars with aero sitting more than 3" off the ground. |
07-04-2008, 06:43 PM | #17 |
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LMFAO. Who the fuck cares about suspension being altered, it's fucking judged DRIFTING, not timed wheel-to-wheel competition.
The fact that there are even any rules to begin with beyond safety standards is hilarious in its own right. |
07-04-2008, 06:50 PM | #18 |
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I read all 18 pages of that shit.
It seems that Formula D did not or has not been able to produce any documentation on which teams/car/drivers have been pre-aproved to modify the suspenion and to what extent, so you must assume they are going off of their memory. What if SA petitioned for and recieved the appoval to modify their vehicle and Formula D just forgot? If Formula D has not been documenting they petitions for modification they don't have a leg to stand on. |
07-04-2008, 07:03 PM | #20 |
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Takatori & SA Drift FOR LIFE, NO MATTER WHAT!
Those are the nicest/coolest guys ever. All this controversy with the R34 suspension is so asinine! All these cars are modified, it's not like SA car has some kind of auto pilot button installed on the car. Just drift!
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FD has been making serious efforts to do the right thing for more of the privateers. I;m not saying they are perfect or better than anyones else though. As you can see, there are still politics in all the "pro" drift series..
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07-05-2008, 12:12 AM | #24 |
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Formula D is a joke. It ALWAYS has been.
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07-05-2008, 12:14 AM | #25 |
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"The vocal team is the group behind the Super Autobacs Nissan Skyline, which was recently deemed ineligible for competition by Formula D. The series organizers claim the Skyline features illegal front suspension modifications by using the OEM parts off a Nissan Laurel."
Thats all I needed to read...and then the thoughts on the TC only strike further at this arguement...Watching a tech inspector walk thru a car and KNOWING that the altered factory dynamics of certain vehicles are being permitted kinda sent a bad feeling thru me when i was at FD in Atlanta this year Some specifics would stiffen the competition in my opinion and make things a bit clearer atleast... Another thing...the Saturn Skye...its like a Cage with some plastic panels...the rear suspension setup on that car doesnt seem to share the same characteristics of the stock vehicle...
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07-05-2008, 01:02 AM | #27 |
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wow. honestly the rwd scion didnt raise any reg flags though>? lol you dont even have to do any reading to know there is loads of BS going on
who the hell in formula D has anything stock in their suspension anyway. thats fuqin stupid
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07-05-2008, 03:14 AM | #30 |
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Thats what alot of the drivers/companies/teams in Japan are thinking.....Another big issue is that a lot of Japanese drivers are coming the U.S. to drift, but they aren't getting the points they deserve, most likely to make it "fair" for the American drivers. Maybe Formula D is afraid of a swarm of Japanese drivers taking over the series (and possibly upsetting all the domestic companies, i.e. Mopar, Ford, etc)
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