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DJ-of-E · 02-01-2012, 10:54 AM

Hello, I'm deciding upon a bbk to use for auto-x and weekend warrior track use to replace my RPS13 front brakes. Which is better (other than Z32 brakes in the front)?

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DJ-of-E · 02-01-2012, 06:49 PM

No opinions?

*e1_griego* · 02-01-2012, 06:51 PM

What's wrong with z32 brakes?

*fliprayzin240sx* · 02-01-2012, 06:52 PM

It doesnt matter...either one will be overkill for the car. If you tell me that you'll leave the rears stock, I'll die laughing.

Walperstyle · 02-01-2012, 06:57 PM

Either of them are good, but if you are serious about racing, you will need to be able to adjust them.

and yeah, don't leave the back alone. If you get massive brakes like Stoptech in the front, you will lock the front, and your back end will want to kick out. Dangerous.

*tacotacotaco* · 02-01-2012, 07:27 PM

i vote for the wilwood superlites with the def hat. Super cheap replacement rotors and save a lot of unsprung weight.

DJ-of-E · 02-01-2012, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fliprayzin240sx

It doesnt matter...either one will be overkill for the car. If you tell me that you'll leave the rears stock, I'll die laughing.

I'm already part hunting for Z32 rears. Already got e-brake assembly with cables attached from a '93 300zx 2+2. Now I'm hunting for calipers on junk yards and then rebuild them.

rcdad123 · 02-01-2012, 08:18 PM

auto cross usually does not exceed 2nd gear speeds. i don`t think you need to upgrade to more than high performance pads and rotors with silicone brake fluid. also, a bbk will give you more unsprung weight due to larger rotors and may cause you more acceleration time. also they require 17 inch wheels. 16 or even 15 inch wheels are probably better for auto cross.

*fliprayzin240sx* · 02-02-2012, 03:43 AM

Personally, get Z32 rears and BMC, then slap some R33 brakes up front. Then slap some Hawk pads and be done with it. Even that is more than enough to lock the wheels on a lighter S13.

*e1_griego* · 02-02-2012, 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tacotacotaco

i vote for the wilwood superlites with the def hat. Super cheap replacement rotors and save a lot of unsprung weight.

This, but I'm still not seeing what the problem with front z brakes is?

Croustibat · 02-02-2012, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by e1_griego

This, but I'm still not seeing what the problem with front z brakes is?

1/Heavy
2/Expensive
3/Old and used

i went wilwood a long time ago. for the price of a Z32 brake disc, you get a pair of wilwood discs. Same goes for the brake pads, you get 2 sets for less than 100$, and wilwood brake pads are usually twice as thick as other manufacturers. As for the weight, a pair of wilwoods weights less than ONE z32 front caliper.

My current polymatrix brake pads are half used ... and they still have more life left than my brand new ebc yellowstuff (which are crappy pads, dont use them, mine went straight to the bin after a couple of weeks)

*e1_griego* · 02-02-2012, 10:04 AM

Yeah, I know, I just bought wilwoods lol

But aluminum z32 brakes aren't *that* heavy, but yeah the rotor is.

And rebuild kits are cheap and easy. For autox I don't think it's 100% worth it just for the weight, unless you're planning on winning Street Mod.

GabeS14 · 02-03-2012, 11:52 PM

Glad I found this thread, I have been doing research on Brake upgrades, without going BBK, I am using low disk wheels, and cant go bbk route..
I saw the wilwood option, but still not sure if it would clear low disk leon hardritt ordens....
another thing I have been wanting to look into is the double caliper option, my friend is doing it to the rear of his Is300 and I really like the idea.
I still haven't seen it done to a 240 yet though

btw there is already a brake swap thread, this one should merge with that one:
http://zilvia.net/f/chat/431549-brak...ml#post4499515

DJ-of-E · 02-04-2012, 12:58 PM

For the 240sx, you need to get someone who knows their stuff an fabricate a bracket. I know there's one for the rear, but never made for the front.

02-01-2012, 06:52 PM	#4
fliprayzin240sx Man w/ CTSV & a Car Seat Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 17,998 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: fliprayzin240sx Feedback Score: 19 reviews	It doesnt matter...either one will be overkill for the car. If you tell me that you'll leave the rears stock, I'll die laughing. __________________ If you think Zilvia has too many assholes... CLICK HERE!!!

02-01-2012, 06:57 PM	#5
Walperstyle Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Alberta, Red Derp Age: 40 Posts: 1,729 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Either of them are good, but if you are serious about racing, you will need to be able to adjust them. and yeah, don't leave the back alone. If you get massive brakes like Stoptech in the front, you will lock the front, and your back end will want to kick out. Dangerous. __________________ KA-T ORG-Function over Flush

02-02-2012, 03:43 AM	#9
fliprayzin240sx Man w/ CTSV & a Car Seat Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 17,998 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: fliprayzin240sx Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Personally, get Z32 rears and BMC, then slap some R33 brakes up front. Then slap some Hawk pads and be done with it. Even that is more than enough to lock the wheels on a lighter S13. __________________ If you think Zilvia has too many assholes... CLICK HERE!!!

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GabeS14 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Sin City Las Vegas Posts: 4,521 Trader Rating: (27) Rides Gallery: GabeS14 Feedback Score: 27 reviews	Glad I found this thread, I have been doing research on Brake upgrades, without going BBK, I am using low disk wheels, and cant go bbk route.. I saw the wilwood option, but still not sure if it would clear low disk leon hardritt ordens.... another thing I have been wanting to look into is the double caliper option, my friend is doing it to the rear of his Is300 and I really like the idea. I still haven't seen it done to a 240 yet though btw there is already a brake swap thread, this one should merge with that one: http://zilvia.net/f/chat/431549-brak...ml#post4499515 __________________ E92 M3 19" wheels for sale///JWT Cams and Springs +30whp for sale... cheap.

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02-01-2012, 06:51 PM	#3
e1_griego Premium Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Independence, Ore. Age: 36 Posts: 2,642 Trader Rating: (24) Feedback Score: 24 reviews	What's wrong with z32 brakes?

02-01-2012, 07:27 PM	#6
tacotacotaco Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: GRRRVINE!!! Age: 38 Posts: 3,247 Trader Rating: (16) Rides Gallery: tacotacotaco Feedback Score: 16 reviews	i vote for the wilwood superlites with the def hat. Super cheap replacement rotors and save a lot of unsprung weight.

02-01-2012, 08:18 PM	#8
rcdad123 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: san diego Posts: 639 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	auto cross usually does not exceed 2nd gear speeds. i don`t think you need to upgrade to more than high performance pads and rotors with silicone brake fluid. also, a bbk will give you more unsprung weight due to larger rotors and may cause you more acceleration time. also they require 17 inch wheels. 16 or even 15 inch wheels are probably better for auto cross.

02-02-2012, 10:04 AM	#12
e1_griego Premium Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Independence, Ore. Age: 36 Posts: 2,642 Trader Rating: (24) Feedback Score: 24 reviews	Yeah, I know, I just bought wilwoods lol But aluminum z32 brakes aren't that heavy, but yeah the rotor is. And rebuild kits are cheap and easy. For autox I don't think it's 100% worth it just for the weight, unless you're planning on winning Street Mod.