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01-04-2010, 02:59 PM | #1 | |
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The Year In Pot: Top 10 Events That Will Change the Way We Think About Marijuana
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01-04-2010, 04:03 PM | #2 |
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breckenridge didnt make it? o well, i will give it 3 more years before its medically used in every state, and 5 years before its legal for recreational use
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Those are all huge. I think number 9 is very significant since some of those teens will end up as registered voters who are pro-marijuana.
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did you know possession of an ounce has been legal statewide in Alaska for like a decade or something crazy? that's probably why Breckenridge wasn't that big of a deal... although it is a big deal, because it's in a state that matters.
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You can also buy a gun, load it, shove it in your pocket and walk out the door. Then you hit the mall, the store, the movies and not be breaking the law. Do you see that happening in California just because you can in Alaska?
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.....no? what do the two have to do with each other? furthermore, we were talking about Breckenridge Colorado, we weren't talking about California. let me fill you in since you're lost: Breckenridge, CO legalized possession this year. He was wondering why it didn't make this list. I replied that an entire state has already legalized possession, which is probably why it wasn't seen as a big deal.
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I don't smoke it, and never have, but I don't get why it isn't legal. I mean cmon, cigarettes can cause cancer, and their still legal.
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People tend to forget, tobacco made America rich!
I for one, am interested to see how this issue plays out. Also, while I can't speak for cc4usmc, perhaps he was alluding to the concept of federalism? |
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best i can figure is he's saying Alaska isn't the same as California, so it shouldn't come as a surprise that they have different laws.
but that had nothing to do with the subject at hand, which is why i'm confused
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I used to smoke pot daily for years, now I havent smoked in like 6 years nor do I want to, Even though I have no desire to smoke it again, I havent ever understood why it wasn't legal. Ive (like most others) have always referred to the excuse as the government does not have a firm structured way of taxing it yet! When they figure that out then it will become legal, when It does become legal, I would think that there will be very stiff laws against producing it. The government will make it so that you have to buy their over taxed pot!
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that sounds plausible, but i think it might go differently considering medical marijuana patients in CA can grow up to six plants...
plus, there's no real restriction on growing tobacco, or brewing your own beer for personal use.
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although i have yet to try since it's really expensive to grow when you factor in money spent on seeds, fertilizer, grow medium, electricity, time, etc. i'd still much rather just go get some ready to use from the dispensaries. EDIT: didn't see busted's post before i posted this but i guess he beat me to the growing part. =) |
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To busteds13 dont worry about cc4usmc he's a very confused individual lol. But thank you very much for finding and shearing this info. Im glad to see things like #7 it shows that the government can actually tax and regulate weed. It shows a promising future for us weed supports. Can't wait to see what happens in this up coming year. |
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lots of things are legal that can potentially kill us, like cars and guns. it all comes down to personal restraint and educating everyone of the consequences, and keeping it out of the hands of anyone unstable enough to cause harm to others. i guess that was the idea, anyway. Quote:
but how do you medicate while you're waiting for the crops to mature?? you'd still be stuck going to the dispensary for ready to use herb while you wait which still equates into more money spent. been a patient for the past few years and i have also looked into it. but based on my needs (and the damn nosy ass neighborhood watch), i calculated that to just break even is not worth all the hassle and cost of growing for me. i also have a regular 9-5 job that i need to keep for the cash flow so that kills most of my time. i prefer the herb that the commercial growers produce anyway since they've been doing it for years already and have perfected their craft. and besides, most well established dispensaries already have agreements with lots of commercial growers and/or grow some of their own too. it is not like a noob can just walk into a dispensary with a duffel bag of the stuff and ask if anyone wanted to buy it. that's quite a pipe dream you got there! lol but of course if money were of no object, and i had the space and no pesky neighborhood watch i'd probably go with one of these: https://www.omegagarden.com/index.php?content_id=172 the dude at the lazy gardener shop in whittier was growing some FAT tomatoes with it. |
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I dont want to get into the whole weed growing since this is zilvia and im sure they dont want us talking about weed growing lol. But It does take alot of time at first and having a nice job already. But once you got everything going with the growing room and the plants. Its really all down hill from there and you dont have to grow then harvest then wait however long to harvest again. Pretty much you use clippings or "clones" from plants that u have already growin and that cuts the waiting time down by months. So pretty much simple terms if you knew what you were doing and had a solid plan. Then you would harvest every 1-2 months depending from how you grew the plants you could get 1-2 pounds a plant lets say you harvest 4-5 plants every 2 months at 1.5 pounds a plant of dro "high quality weed" thats 6 pounds every 2 months sell it back to the dispensaries for 2k a pound "thats very cheap price could be upwards of 3.5k" your looking at 12k every 2 months. Hell I really want to fucking do it now lol. But it is hard to get everything started and set-up right. So if you wanted to keep your 9-5 job and just start growing personal and if you want, get a clone of one of your best plants and make the grow room alittle bigger with acouple more plants from your clone. Remm everyone weed is just going to get bigger in the future so if you start little stuff now you might make your own business out of it in a year or two and work for yourself making shit loads of money LEGALLY |
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those numbers are... wishful thinking, to be honest with you. it takes about 3 months for your plants to mature, and you're going to get a few ounces per plant in a best-case scenario on an indoor grow. but i believe there are ways to become a "caregiver" for members of dispensaries, giving you the right to grow more plants, still legal under California law.
of course, you could grow in cycles and have a smaller harvest every month, but you'd again need permission to grow more plants to do it legally. i'd imagine this is what most growers would do, to keep a steady supply out the door to dispensaries. but if you're talking about outdoor growing, well, yeah, i could see a couple pounds coming off this monster: but that'd still take longer than two months to grow, that's for sure.
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speaking of California. there's a vote on the 12th to legalize. if any of you Californians are pro legalization, please take five minutes to read this article and familiarize yourself with the bill. then call or email those voting and let them know your opinion.
California: Historic Vote On Cannabis Regulation To Take Place On Tuesday, January 12 | NORML Blog COMMITTEE OF PUBLIC SAFETY Dem-13 (916) 319-2013 [email protected] Rep-60 (916) 319-2060 [email protected] Ind-31 (916) 319-2031 [email protected] Dem-55 (916) 319-2055 [email protected] Rep-30 (916) 319-2030 [email protected] Dem-19 (916) 319-2019 [email protected] Dem-12 (916) 319-2012 [email protected] COMMITTEE OF HEALTH Dem-9 (916) 319-2009 [email protected] Rep-75 (916) 319-2075 [email protected] Rep-59 (916) 319-2059 [email protected] Dem-13 (916) 319-2013 [email protected] Dem-78 (916) 319-2078 [email protected] Dem-62 (916) 319-2062 [email protected] Rep-34 (916) 319-2034 [email protected] Dem-50 (916) 319-2050 [email protected] Dem-45 (916) 319-2045 [email protected] Rep-63 (916) 319-2063 [email protected] Rep-4 (916) 319-2004 [email protected] Dem-52 (916) 319-2052 [email protected] Dem-18 (916) 319-2018 [email protected] Dem-57 (916) 319-2057 [email protected] Dem-54 (916) 319-2054 [email protected] Dem-35 (916) 319-2035 [email protected] Dem-80 (916) 319-2080 [email protected] Dem-79 (916) 319-2079 [email protected] Rep-37 (916) 319-2037 [email protected] this would be an amazing turn of events, and would begin the trend of state legalization, eventually leading to federal reform. but it all starts with California (or maybe Washington, or Oregon) before it'll move anywhere else.
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yes, yes, yes! I pray that we can use it to treat guys with PTSD! I have a few friends drinking themselfs to death, while taking zoloft and prozac!
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01-06-2010, 09:37 AM | #27 |
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01-06-2010, 03:21 PM | #28 | |
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And yes Busteds13 I have seen first hand ppl get 1 pound per plant its not about how big the plants are its about how dense the buds are on the plant. Iv seen 4 plants in a simple walk in closet prob 5x5 feet harvest alittle bit under 4 pound thats around 10-12k street prices, honest truth my friend. And yes you can harvest every month if you get the right cycle down simple layout of how it works. You have a group of plants growing, another group maturing, another group about to bub, another group ready to be harvested and another group of buds drying out. You have one mother plant that you take clones off of so you dont have to start from seeds thats saves you 2-3 months right there. So in the end if you want to do it that way your going to need a space prob the size of a 20x20 room or a small basement. The good thing about doing it that way is you will always have product for you and to sell. But also to do it this way dont think your going to just buy all the stuff and start growing dank ass plants it takes time to get the system down and a good amount of experience. |
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