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07-23-2011, 03:26 AM | #31 |
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i got a question about the ka! i put in a aluminum crankshaft pulley on a semi stock block and i kept blowing out the front main seal. is there something special i need to do to make that not happen that i havent read about?? just curious
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07-23-2011, 08:59 AM | #33 |
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lol not true. myself and friends have overheated many of times (bad luck shit) and motors are still fine..its just catching it. the problem is most people drive around and probably never even check their gauge out during a drive..they look when they see steam or smoke. i CONSTANTLY observe my gauges. i think i look more at my gauges than the road lol.
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07-23-2011, 09:11 AM | #34 |
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/\/\/\ honestly I check my gauges about every 15-20 seconds. Just a glance to male sure nothing is about to explode. Having warning lights helps, but so does paying attention.
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Its not about how much you spend, its about what you buy and what you support. There have always been companies that are value oriented, I consider greddy to be one of them. I mean, I dont consider their parts expensive. Or gauges, I dont consider VDO to be expensive. There are a lot of reasonably priced things out there.. but when you need super baller DEFI setup, well.. then you are paying for something very fancy, more fancy than what most people need. I want to say that 99% of the parts on my car are authentic if not custom made. The 1% kockoff part was given to me by Omikron because he happened to have it laying around... but whatever. At the end of the day, I dont have a mod list hanging from the ass of my car and I dont care to advertise this stuff... authentic or not, the parts that are on my car are my business and no one elses. This is why I hate US car magazines, they're all about giving props to the companies that have given you sponsored parts.. its a fucking advertisement. Quote:
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I've seen motors overheat before the gauge even went up. As for the crank pulley, ATI or stock. Anything else just fucks your engine seals/bearings up.
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If our dyno computer didn't eat a brown, I'd have current run files to show you. And the entire 'dampened' vs whatever argument is so old it hurts. Show me where you can relate ANY engine failure to the undampened underdrive pulley, and I'll personally fly out there to give you a reach around. Of course after a beer. In all of my time, both street and track related, there has never ever ever been a case of Crank pulley enducing failure or even a remote instance of the crank pully being related to the issue. Edit - I can provide 2 example sof factory VQ pulleys seperating though. \ Are they a wire choice to spend money on? no...less money can easily be spent elsewhere for equal gain. However their are some gains to be had with them.
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I trust my greddy gauges. Knowing exactly where my temps are gives me great peace of mind and is one of the reasons I still have the same SR after almost 8 years. |
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the underdrive crank pulley is a heap of shit.. unorthodox racing tried to give me some shpeil about it not effecting the charging system. horseshit. i recall my wipers crawling along at idle because the alternator wasnt working as it should, i'de have to rev to 2k just to get the charge back. what am i gaining? shit. my friend at overboost wrote a tech article showing the differences in harmonics when he measured stock damper vs undampened race pulley. its pointless and puts your engine at risk. bottom line, its not about it causing damage... its about it increasing the risks for negligible increase in performance. anyone with a working brain should say "yeah, probably not worth it, all things considering" |
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The use of it is all relative; to run off your point, anyone with half a brain should realize their are plenty of other things proven to be more dangerous that continue to be bought and sold. I hate to sound so damn redneck about it, but I have read all of the engineering behind why they suck, but have seen little proof (as in, broken junk) because of it. I know I know, works <> right, but there needs to be more cases for me to really believe into it.
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I know on higher power 2jz's the ATI crank pulley is a must. I bought a car with some shitty aluminum one installed. Few months later it doing the shimmy.
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reason people are breaking things is because they are buying those cheap pulleys that are "out of round" i personally recommend Unorthrodox Racing. (UR) or ATI everything else is just a cheap Taiwanese/Chinese Knock off. |
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But yes, I too have never ever ever had or seen a issue related to a quality underdrive pulley, nor have I seen any issue 'bottom end' related to cars with the dampening material all but shot or missing in them (as above I've seen two Maxima's now with the dampener being seperated). Offtopic, but have ever wondered how half of these cheapasses live in normal life? I'm just imaginging a ton of fast food and snacks, thus causing them to be broke. Or maybe they're just plain idiots? Or maybe their allowances don't allow it.
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07-24-2011, 02:44 PM | #47 |
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The ATI crank pulley seems pretty cool. If you do not have one already, I would splurge on that before accessory pulleys.
That being said, I have OBX accessory pulleys on my KA. The water pulley is quite a bit larger than the stock one, and the alternator and power steering pulleys appear to be about the same size. They are all noticeably lighter than their stock counterparts, although the benefit is most likely miniscule. So far they have not caused any trouble. I also used to have the Unorthodox crank pulley. The car definitely revved quicker, and I never had a problem with it. However, I felt very paranoid using it with all the things I kept reading about undamped crank pulleys, and just staring it at mounted on the motor it appears all weak and brittle and unsafe-looking. I ended up switching back to the OEM crank pulley. Eventually, I may purchase the ATI damper. |
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ATI - Crankshaft Dampers 101 ATI - The Dangers of Power Pulleys & Understanding the Harmonic Damper Harmonics are not a joke, its a pretty complex subject that you can spend a lot of time researching. All I can say is read up. As for the e-fan debate, its been discussed to death... my best suggestion would be to look at your fans and how many amps they consume, then look at your charging system and see how many amps you replenish. You need to look at how much time you spend in traffic. Cars that sit in traffic would benefit from a clutch-type fan, cars that dont sit in traffic would benefit from a e-fan. This is one of the reasons I dont think a RB or any straight-6 is designed for our cars, insufficient room for cooling. Quote:
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All anodized coatings fade, as far as I know. I powdercoated my stock pulleys. Paint works too, nothing special about powdercoating. |
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