Stop the rattlecanning! i have the solution - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

yokotas13 · 12-02-2008, 07:41 PM

OK, we all know that i love to flat black my shit. Well i am here to tell you STOP DOING IT. I actually found that doing it the right way, not only looks better, but takes less time, less after work, and looks 100 better than a rattle can.

I did this in my FRONT YARD. no cover, no garage, nothing. It came out fantastic, side form a few bugs in the clear, i am super happy with it. after i wetsand and buff it, it should look almost damn near good. only problem is all the overspray that settled and the wind made the surface a tad rough. I sprayed almost 8 layers of clear so i have plenty to wetsand.

It took me a day....a single solitary day from 7am to 5pm from start to finish with two people.

so please, no more rattle cans.
total, this cost me 500.00
paint was 250
35 gallon compressor i got on sale for 125.00
and a gun and supplies.

yeah it costs a tad more, but fuck, its better than rattle cans guys.

and where i painted it

so please, save the spraypaint for your interior

andmattsayd · 12-02-2008, 07:42 PM

pics dont work.

10-66kruk · 12-02-2008, 07:45 PM

if you by any chance have the process that would be cool to see.

ILoveMyRHS13 · 12-02-2008, 07:46 PM

I didn't know until the other day that you had a Legacy. Hook me up with some JDM projectors from one? Hahah.

Paint looks good, but I'm not a fan of flake on white.

**ThatGuy** · 12-02-2008, 07:47 PM

yokotas13 · 12-02-2008, 07:48 PM

shit, they arent linking from my flickr like they should. ill take are of it later, and do a whole process of it.

10-66kruk · 12-02-2008, 07:53 PM

sweet that would be cool

origin_s135 · 12-02-2008, 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThatGuy

i literally busted out laughing.

Pank · 12-02-2008, 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yokotas13

OK, we all know that i love to flat black my shit. Well i am here to tell you STOP DOING IT. I actually found that doing it the right way, not only looks better, but takes less time, less after work, and looks 100 better than a rattle can.

I did this in my FRONT YARD. no cover, no garage, nothing. It came out fantastic, side form a few bugs in the clear, i am super happy with it. after i wetsand and buff it, it should look almost damn near good. only problem is all the overspray that settled and the wind made the surface a tad rough. I sprayed almost 8 layers of clear so i have plenty to wetsand.

It took me a day....a single solitary day from 7am to 5pm from start to finish with two people.

so please, no more rattle cans.
total, this cost me 500.00
paint was 250
35 gallon compressor i got on sale for 125.00
and a gun and supplies.

yeah it costs a tad more, but fuck, its better than rattle cans guys.

and where i painted it

so please, save the spraypaint for your interior

you had spaces all over your URLs

gg learn to internet nubbo.

(looks good btw)

origin_s135 · 12-02-2008, 08:13 PM

wow it looks great, i'll do it on my friend's car when he's ready to get it painted.

yokotas13 · 12-02-2008, 08:15 PM

ok fixed, thats what i get for not logging into my flickr and using the pictures and shit.

allntrlundrgrnd · 12-02-2008, 08:16 PM

looks fly man. i kinda liked the stockish look more though

yokotas13 · 12-02-2008, 08:28 PM

thats not the point if you like it or not

its hte point that you dont HAVE to have a paint booth to get decent results. this shit looks 10xs better than what MIKE did to ruin my other cars. and i did it in the front yard, with nothing special other htan a paint gun, compessor, and scale

allntrlundrgrnd · 12-02-2008, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by allntrlundrgrnd

looks fly man.

you gonna make a writeup?

Vision Garage · 12-02-2008, 10:21 PM

now are those speckles in your paint (as in thats how you wanted it) or you didnt paint it fully?

BustedS13 · 12-02-2008, 10:33 PM

you should have flown a guy in from california to do it, lawll

looks good but what's going on where the skirts meet up with the rear flares?

norcal_black240 · 12-02-2008, 10:43 PM

Good stuff, painting your own car saves sooooooooooo much money.

I got a paint setup at my shop and works great.

One of my friends cars getting painted rx8 blue w/clear coat for under 420 bucks for all materials. You can do it a lot cheaper than that to if you know what your doing.

*!Zar!* · 12-02-2008, 11:00 PM

Of course painting it like this would look better.

Because your car does look good.

$500 for a painted car is cheap.

It's still $490 too much for the average zilvian.

Got to remember, most of the people who primer their car are too cheap to even buy enough cans.

blackrms13 · 12-02-2008, 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !Zar!

Of course painting it like this would look better.

Because your car does look good.

$500 for a painted car is cheap.

It's still $490 too much for the average zilvian.

Got to remember, most of the people who primer their car are too cheap to even buy enough cans.

that is sooooo true....
hell...ppl usually use like 7-8 for the whole car

Vision Garage · 12-02-2008, 11:57 PM

haha. Nice comparision zar!

10 dollar paint job vs 500 paint job.

Yea, i think for most zilvians, an upgraded turbo would win over a new paint job.

Dousan_PG · 12-03-2008, 12:04 AM

duh
this how all our cars are painted
next time ill rent a booth though
its all in the prep work.....and i hardly do that!

it isnt a show car
10 footer
but thats fine on a track car, imo

***CrimsonRockett*** · 12-03-2008, 12:06 AM

Most zilvians, a knock off body kit with mismatched body panels would win over the $10 paint job.

My paint materials were $400 total for everything. Primer, activator, base, reducer, clear, hardener, strainers, stirrers, etc etc.

Redline Red, which is an even more expensive color because of the pigments.

Vision Garage · 12-03-2008, 12:08 AM

you didnt paint that did you johnny?

***CrimsonRockett*** · 12-03-2008, 12:17 AM

No. I'll be spraying my own car that color.

I've delayed it because I'm making sure I have it all down.

Everything from the body work to the paint guns.

The new Iwata guns I'm ordering are going to run me $900ish.

silpena · 12-03-2008, 01:03 AM

what gun did u buy? i'm guessing the lph400? i have 100 and love it. Ppl thought the fan pattern is too small but its good for little cars. I sure do want the lph400 extreme or maybe pickup a devilbiss plus gun and gti millenium. Iwata is the shit but buying parts sucks. Next best thing to satajet. It only cost me about 300 to paint my car and i'm doing it again so it should be only 150 this time since i'm dong mostly spot jobs and blending.

btw 900? are u buying 2 guns or one bc/cc and one for primer? i would advise you to go devilbiss 670gfg plus gun for cc. I heard its amazing for it.

Matej · 12-03-2008, 01:23 AM

Most of my car is spraypainted. Who cares.

ayuaddict · 12-03-2008, 01:26 AM

i hear some fools spray paint their WHOLE car.

...oh wait.

KA-T_240 · 12-03-2008, 01:39 AM

I am not a big fan of spray paint. I have painted body panels with it... However, I use automotive single stage paint in a spray can.

If i could do the body work my car needs, I would be all over painting it myself. I will probalby be doing the bumpers on my WRX on my own.

My first bumper repair results using automotive sinlge stage from spray cans...

From this(scratch, faded, bad clear ect):

To this:

Compaired to the rest of my 20 year old paint

To the guys painting cars in there garages/shops/ect. Do you use any fans to pull overspray away from the car?

silpena · 12-03-2008, 02:45 AM

they should be using a fan of some wort as an exhuast to pull over spray away so i doesnt all sit on the car and give dry spots. Usally these are cross draft type set up's. The best out there is a true down draft where u have a man hole under you car that sucks all of the fumes/over spray down under the car and recircualtes out. On the top fresh air is being sucked as an intake. Way cleaner job and less materials used. On a cross draft u start on the side away from where ever the exhaust is and on a down draft u can start from the roof down. There are semi-down drafts but those suck and u never really see those alot.

SmogSUX · 12-03-2008, 02:50 AM

Myself and norcal black240 had a basic fan pointed out the window lol does that count?

Rattlecan FTW!!

^My old S13, Rustoleum gloss black hahahaha those were the days

12-02-2008, 07:41 PM	#1
yokotas13 Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Milford, CT Age: 36 Posts: 10,519 Trader Rating: (8) Rides Gallery: yokotas13 Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Stop the rattlecanning! i have the solution OK, we all know that i love to flat black my shit. Well i am here to tell you STOP DOING IT. I actually found that doing it the right way, not only looks better, but takes less time, less after work, and looks 100 better than a rattle can. I did this in my FRONT YARD. no cover, no garage, nothing. It came out fantastic, side form a few bugs in the clear, i am super happy with it. after i wetsand and buff it, it should look almost damn near good. only problem is all the overspray that settled and the wind made the surface a tad rough. I sprayed almost 8 layers of clear so i have plenty to wetsand. It took me a day....a single solitary day from 7am to 5pm from start to finish with two people. so please, no more rattle cans. total, this cost me 500.00 paint was 250 35 gallon compressor i got on sale for 125.00 and a gun and supplies. yeah it costs a tad more, but fuck, its better than rattle cans guys. and where i painted it so please, save the spraypaint for your interior __________________ 2015 Subaru Outback Overlander - Wagonofdoom Last edited by yokotas13; 12-02-2008 at 08:15 PM..

12-02-2008, 07:47 PM	#5
ThatGuy Admin Asshole Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Retired Age: 41 Posts: 20,394 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: ThatGuy Feedback Score: 0 reviews	__________________ "Speak softly,..." -Pres. Teddy Roosevelt "Be polite, be professional, ..." -Gen. James Mattis

12-02-2008, 07:48 PM	#6
yokotas13 Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Milford, CT Age: 36 Posts: 10,519 Trader Rating: (8) Rides Gallery: yokotas13 Feedback Score: 8 reviews	shit, they arent linking from my flickr like they should. ill take are of it later, and do a whole process of it. __________________ 2015 Subaru Outback Overlander - Wagonofdoom

12-02-2008, 08:13 PM	#10
origin_s135 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: 湾区域 Posts: 1,333 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	wow it looks great, i'll do it on my friend's car when he's ready to get it painted. __________________ -robo

12-02-2008, 08:15 PM	#11
yokotas13 Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Milford, CT Age: 36 Posts: 10,519 Trader Rating: (8) Rides Gallery: yokotas13 Feedback Score: 8 reviews	ok fixed, thats what i get for not logging into my flickr and using the pictures and shit. __________________ 2015 Subaru Outback Overlander - Wagonofdoom

12-02-2008, 07:42 PM	#2
andmattsayd Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Stranded Age: 31 Posts: 1,146 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	pics dont work.

12-02-2008, 07:45 PM	#3
10-66kruk Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Lake Forest, Ca Age: 31 Posts: 148 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	if you by any chance have the process that would be cool to see.

12-02-2008, 07:53 PM	#7
10-66kruk Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Lake Forest, Ca Age: 31 Posts: 148 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	sweet that would be cool

12-02-2008, 08:16 PM	#12
allntrlundrgrnd Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Astoria, OR Posts: 2,460 Trader Rating: (17) Rides Gallery: allntrlundrgrnd Feedback Score: 17 reviews	looks fly man. i kinda liked the stockish look more though __________________ Kouki for sale!!

12-02-2008, 08:28 PM	#13
yokotas13 Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Milford, CT Age: 36 Posts: 10,519 Trader Rating: (8) Rides Gallery: yokotas13 Feedback Score: 8 reviews	thats not the point if you like it or not its hte point that you dont HAVE to have a paint booth to get decent results. this shit looks 10xs better than what MIKE did to ruin my other cars. and i did it in the front yard, with nothing special other htan a paint gun, compessor, and scale __________________ 2015 Subaru Outback Overlander - Wagonofdoom

12-02-2008, 10:21 PM	#15
Vision Garage Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USDM Land Posts: 1,799 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	now are those speckles in your paint (as in thats how you wanted it) or you didnt paint it fully? __________________

12-02-2008, 10:33 PM	#16
BustedS13 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Phoenix AZ Age: 36 Posts: 10,287 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	you should have flown a guy in from california to do it, lawll looks good but what's going on where the skirts meet up with the rear flares? __________________

12-02-2008, 10:43 PM	#17
norcal_black240 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: yuba city (norcal) Age: 34 Posts: 710 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Good stuff, painting your own car saves sooooooooooo much money. I got a paint setup at my shop and works great. One of my friends cars getting painted rx8 blue w/clear coat for under 420 bucks for all materials. You can do it a lot cheaper than that to if you know what your doing. __________________

12-02-2008, 11:00 PM	#18
!Zar! Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: North Korea Posts: 14,576 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	Of course painting it like this would look better. Because your car does look good. $500 for a painted car is cheap. It's still $490 too much for the average zilvian. Got to remember, most of the people who primer their car are too cheap to even buy enough cans. __________________

12-02-2008, 11:57 PM	#20
Vision Garage Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USDM Land Posts: 1,799 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	haha. Nice comparision zar! 10 dollar paint job vs 500 paint job. Yea, i think for most zilvians, an upgraded turbo would win over a new paint job. __________________

12-03-2008, 12:04 AM	#21
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 42 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	duh this how all our cars are painted next time ill rent a booth though its all in the prep work.....and i hardly do that! it isnt a show car 10 footer but thats fine on a track car, imo __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

12-03-2008, 12:08 AM	#23
Vision Garage Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USDM Land Posts: 1,799 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	you didnt paint that did you johnny? __________________

12-03-2008, 01:03 AM	#25
silpena Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: LIVE OAK,CA Age: 34 Posts: 834 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	what gun did u buy? i'm guessing the lph400? i have 100 and love it. Ppl thought the fan pattern is too small but its good for little cars. I sure do want the lph400 extreme or maybe pickup a devilbiss plus gun and gti millenium. Iwata is the shit but buying parts sucks. Next best thing to satajet. It only cost me about 300 to paint my car and i'm doing it again so it should be only 150 this time since i'm dong mostly spot jobs and blending. btw 900? are u buying 2 guns or one bc/cc and one for primer? i would advise you to go devilbiss 670gfg plus gun for cc. I heard its amazing for it.

12-03-2008, 01:23 AM	#26
Matej Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: N/A Posts: 9,423 Trader Rating: (39) Feedback Score: 39 reviews	Most of my car is spraypainted. Who cares.

12-03-2008, 01:26 AM	#27
ayuaddict Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Socal Age: 32 Posts: 4,017 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	i hear some fools spray paint their WHOLE car. ...oh wait.

12-03-2008, 01:39 AM	#28
KA-T_240 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Moorhead, MN Age: 34 Posts: 1,788 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I am not a big fan of spray paint. I have painted body panels with it... However, I use automotive single stage paint in a spray can. If i could do the body work my car needs, I would be all over painting it myself. I will probalby be doing the bumpers on my WRX on my own. My first bumper repair results using automotive sinlge stage from spray cans... From this(scratch, faded, bad clear ect): To this: Compaired to the rest of my 20 year old paint To the guys painting cars in there garages/shops/ect. Do you use any fans to pull overspray away from the car? __________________

12-03-2008, 02:45 AM	#29
silpena Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: LIVE OAK,CA Age: 34 Posts: 834 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	they should be using a fan of some wort as an exhuast to pull over spray away so i doesnt all sit on the car and give dry spots. Usally these are cross draft type set up's. The best out there is a true down draft where u have a man hole under you car that sucks all of the fumes/over spray down under the car and recircualtes out. On the top fresh air is being sucked as an intake. Way cleaner job and less materials used. On a cross draft u start on the side away from where ever the exhaust is and on a down draft u can start from the roof down. There are semi-down drafts but those suck and u never really see those alot.

12-03-2008, 02:50 AM	#30
SmogSUX Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Chico Age: 33 Posts: 588 Trader Rating: (15) Feedback Score: 15 reviews	Myself and norcal black240 had a basic fan pointed out the window lol does that count? Rattlecan FTW!! ^My old S13, Rustoleum gloss black hahahaha those were the days __________________ 96 S14 w/ Kouki Front 05 Yamaha YZF600

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