flip3d

Tell the parents. Turn his ass in to the Police and beat his ass when he gets out. Or a swift kick to the nuts. Your choice.

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Seriously... Anybody who says "violence doesn't solve anything" must not have ever caught a beating after doing something stupid.

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ThatGuy

^Agreed.

The fear of having pain inflicted upon you, is a good motivator not to be a fuck-wad.

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lflkajfj12123

i've punched some good friends real good when they've done stupid shit

most of them thanked me later so its fine

driven_

hmm.
that sucks.
its time for one of those brotherly beat your ass until you say sorry situations.

too bad i'm always the little brother in the family. -__-'

but yeah. just make him apologize by putting him in some sort of painful hold. :P

at least you got an excuse. and if he doesnt learn his lesson just repeat the process.

*shrugs*

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flip3d

Fuck it. Go Gitmo style and water board him.

I'm pretty sure rape is more fucked up than water boarding.

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ronmcdon

so in other words, what you found out was via your GF/GF's sis account only?
you haven't heard both sides of the story.
that's just not an objective way of finding out what really happened.
I would give your bro the chance to explain things on his side at the very least.
If this is the first time something like this has happened with your bro, that should give him some degree of credibility at the very least.

About the chick who made the accusations,
how well exactly do you know your GF's sis?
can you absolutely guarantee that she's 100% honest and incapable of exaggeration?
If she was offended, is unthinkable that she would attempt to exact max retribution, even if it meant exaggerating details or even making stuff up?

Your bro might not be entirely honest either, but at least it'll give you more info to reach an informed conclusion.
might also help if you speak to some of the ppl at the party to find out if they know what was going on.

Bigsyke

Shit man this really sucks, I dont even think ive talked to my brother for more than a combined 20 minutes in the past 7 years. This is going to be awkward and shit calling such a quiet kid out.


Well I will get the second side of the story after work tonight. Im sure he would deny it, since the only way the GF's sisters story would even make sense if he was dope'd out of his mind on something. Its just not him to do that, unless he was getting frustrated that after X ammount of times hanging out she wasnt showing signs of being anything more than a friend.

ronmcdon

well then maybe you should consider that your parents handle this.
that is if you're confident they're good at dealing with such situations.

nxt774

ass beating for sure!

but your saying you havent really talked to your brother for more then 20 minutes combined in the last 7 years! thats not a healthy relationship and on top of that you have no idea who this kid really is today 7 years ago he may have been a quiet church going kid but he was what 10 y/o? For all you know he is a rapist peice of shit that should be beaten, thrown in jail, then beaten upon release!

ronmcdon

violence solves some things maybe.
i just don't think it solves 'everything'.

if i have a issue with a co-worker, i don't just beat them up.
i find out what the problem is, and deal with it accordingly.
same deal if it were my brother instead of some random co-worker.

you beat someone up and your over 18, you're liable for assault charges.
that's over 1 yr in prison.
regardless the of the situation, i always cover my ass.
try telling the judge "Zilvia told me to do it".

If my brother tried to attack me out of nowhere,
didn't even give me the common courtesy to explain my side of the story,
& I wasn't close to him at all,
I'd say to hell with him and be inclined to file charges too.

ThatGuy

That just proves the "pussification" of American society. So many stupid fucks out there now-a-days that might not be so bad...

if only someone would have beat their ignorant ass.

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Jonnie Fraz

This is quite an interesting problem. Sounds like you and your bro are not tight...I can relate. Your bro deserves a good ass kicking, but I don't know if you should serve it up. What does little sis want to happen?...she has told her Mom soulds like. Does she want the parents to work it out or does she want to report it to the police?
Rape is not really about sex...it is about power. Beating the crap out of him may make things worse later.
I really think it is up to little sis.

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Mister.E

my thinking is so similar to yours, Barry, its not even funny

meteorite_flo

wtf dude just whoop the shit out of him. seriously, who gives a shit about the drama. we are human beings drama plays it's role in our life. everything that happens is drama. THIS whole situation is drama. if my little brother did that i would whoop the dog shit out of him and tell my parents. whoop his ass on today, give him something to remember about.

drift freaq

First off Women are quite capable of lying. I am not saying your girlfriends sisters story might be the truth but check it out first. If you find he did try shit then ya beat his ass. LOL .

I just get worried over circumstances like this sometimes because girls are very capable of devious behavior themselves. Hell has no fury like a women scorned.

Example I was in 10th grade and a bunch of us were partying. Now my friend who had moved from Chicago had a hot sister who was kinda interested in me. She wanted to go home and did not want to ride alone because she was a little loaded and did not know Palo Alto. So being the gentlemen, I told her I would ride with her. Well I knew the faster route to her house. So when we were riding I suggested we turn down a street that led to her house but she had not traveled.
She was all like, why do you want to go down that street and I was like its faster. She got all funny and said no I am going to go this way you are scaring me. At which point I said fuck this chick I am outta here.

I get to school the next morning and word is going around I tried to lure her down a street to take advantage of her and rape her. Its like WTF I had nothing but good intentions and she is running around spreading this bullshit. I talked to people and got it straightened out. Though it was very scary and showed me how easy it is to be a man and blamed for shit you may not have even done because a Women says so.

Example 2 . One of my best friends a Japanese American went to GIT aka Musicians Institute here in Hollywood. Being born in Japan and having grown up around mostly white kids he met a Japanese girl here in LA and starting seeing her. They became a item but she was a little on the psycho side coming from a divorced Alcoholic mother background in Japan.
Well one night Mark would not do what she wanted him to do, she got really pissed, they had a verbal fight. She called the cops and she he raped her. They came got him and tossed him in Jail for the night. Now Mark is one of the nicest people on this planet and while he can kick ass and take names the last thing in the world he would do is force himself on a Women. Needless to say she later recanted but the damage was done.

I should add Mark is a happily married man of like 7 years with a beautiful 3 year daughter. Oh and he swore off Japanese girls after that incident. His wife is blonde haired Northern Italian descent American girl.

Shall I list story 3 involving a Dyno shop here in socal? Again the owner is a really cool guy known to be a bit of a womanizer aka player but thats about it? Spurned girlfriend finds out about the new one acuses him of rape he winds up in Jail on a crazy amount of bail for like 3 months. Finally charges are dropped, false accusations again!

See until we know exactly what happened on your brothers side? He may be being wrongfully accused. Women can be very evil when it comes to this kinda of stuff.

All I am saying is use your best judgement before taking either sides story lock stock and barrel.
If your brother is guilty as charged hell ya whip his ass.

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thatdrifterguy

if youre not that close then i dont think giving him a good whooping would even matter much to him. and yeah, find out if he was on anything or find out if maybe your future sister inlaw is some underground slut and just didnt wanna give him any. lol. i mean, if there was a smokin hot girl that tried out all your friends and then didnt wanna give you any, wouldnt you get pissed too and say things like what she claims he said. hahahahaha

but wouldnt it be weird if you and your girl get married and then your brother and her sister get married? lol

ronmcdon

He might very deny everything, but you should give him the chance to give his side of the story as common courtesy.
it's not fair to him to 'presume' he is automatically at fault.

try tell him that you want to find out the truth, and aren't out to get him.
try not to get too judgmental.
it's prob not going to be easy to get him to open up.
as you said, you and him aren't close.
he most prob is going to assume you might not be on his side.
maybe you should consider having someone you both know mediate.

if your bro isn't cooperative, then take it to the next level.
say if he doesn't open up, you're going to have to tell the parents and possibly the cops.
that should put enough pressure to speak.

if that doesn't work, speak to your parents first and let them deal with it.

also, how is the chick reacting?
will she be happy with an apology, or does she want to press charges?
could you in any way be legally responsible for this mess?

hOngsterr

lol thats fucked.
damn if he was a random guy and did that to
my gf's sister danngggg i would tore his ass upp!,
but either then that you admitted your gf's sisters hot,
hope she doesnt read this... haha.

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Mister.E

since him and his brother are nowhere near having a close relationship, i can very well see this happening. why would his brother honestly give a damn about his opinion of him as a person if they dont have a close relationship? to him you may be just another ordinary dude.

im not saying that you shouldnt get his side of the story, but be weary that he may be lying. just be sure to pay close attention to his body language and just the way he is acting in general.

on another note i wouldnt trust the girl either. chicks are known to lie about shit like this.

you definitely need to hear out both sides of the story and go from there. i forgot who already mentioned it but i would try and hook up with other people at the party and see if they know anything.

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Shadowhunter

Well, interesting situation here... I would say this. Do not get the cops involved, since no real raping took place and your brother just sounds like he was being a disrespectful dusch getting them involved may land him on a sex offender list as well as ruining his life forever,you don't want that do ya? So... Get his side of the story if he tries to play it all cool or act like it was no big thing then taze his ass or pepper spray him,something like that. Then drag his ass to the girls house and make him apologize in front of her family. Shame is a lesson that is not soon forgotten,neither is being tazed.

Phlip

Leave it, let your parents kick him out.

Don't take an assault charge over someone you aren't close to anyway.

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firelizard

I don't think it sounds like an attempted rape at all.

Extremely poor manners sure (if it happened at all) but there's only one side of the story, and obviously it's going to be made to sound dramatic.

I don't know your brother, and I don't know your sister's girlfriend, to me they both have equal potential to be lying.

Even "tries to get physical" could mean so many things, it's very very vague.

GET FACTS, THEN ACT.

Clearly you have some sort of personal beef with your brother if you won't even face him first. Sounds like you need to resolve some issues between you and him before you get involved in issues between him and other people.

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Truth.

I suggested going to the police because it may be the only way to keep your brother from doing it again. If he's a minor, then there's a chance that your local area has a service that deals with cases like this, even if it's just an attempted rape. If you just let your parents deal with it, then he could just bury it, and grow up and later wind up spending the rest of his life in, or in and out of jail (after hurting more/others).

I just sat through a 3 hour lecture a week ago in my Psychology class about rape, rehabilitation, causes, effects, helping the victim, etc. My teacher used to be the person in charge of the program for youth who comitted rape, and believe me, when I say get the blue involved, I'm not saying it lightly or out of spite, it may actually help your brother in the long run. Of course, this depends on if the victim wants to talk to them, it's really about what she wants or needs. In the future, she may want to take futher steps than she is now, or admit that more or less happened than she's told you now. Talk to a police officer, and ask them to point you to someone who can talk to her, and guide her. That is what I would suggest if she doesn't want to talk to a police officer.

soreballz

Fuck warnings, ban those assholes anyway. That nonsense is highly inappropriate.
(This is coming from someone with the mentality and maturity level of a 12 year old).

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ronmcdon

there really is so much the OP can do to determine whether or not his bro is being honest.
same goes for determining the honesty of the GF's sis.
the bro could be just nervous from thinking something bad is going on, and not necc because he's lying.

lack of eyewitnesses is another prob.
the supposed attempted rape happened in car, without other witnesses.
it's just a matter of 'he said, she said'.
then there's the possibility of alchohol and who knows what other stimulants involved that further puts anyone's account into question.

I think the only thing the OP can do, is to give his bro some sort of incentive to 'resolve the mess',
best to deal with this by VERBALLY apologizing to the chick and call it a day.
Tell him that in a situation like this, the cops are known to side with the chick.
Worst case scenario, he can be charged with rape and assault.
If he doesn't resolve it now, there's a good chance it going to go to the cops.
If that happens, he's screwed.

ronmcdon

OP mentioned that his brother was 18.
he's not going to be tried as a minor if charges are pressed.

DreEzed

Plus, If you aren't close he'll probably be more inclined to charge you for assault or even seek revenge for destroying his life.

oh and girls are evil.

Future240

I can't believe people are asking for pics. I mean........jeez that is just..........sick

Anyways, what are the updates? Is the girl okay?

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