orion

so i've got an s14 zenki that has the production date of 94, i noticed that a few parts like the tie rod and control arm stuff is s13 stuff rather than normal s14, and i was wondering if my springs/coils would also be s13, or should i shop for s14?

also fun fact, although it's a 94 production date it has obd2 ._.

KendallH

dafuq did I just read

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orion

i have a zenki s14
the production date on it is in the year 94 so therefor it has some s13 parts where s14 parts would be (like the control arm and tie rod for example)
I need to know if i should buy s13, or s14 coilovers.

Huntsman2007

What you did there^ I see it

orion

what did i do? ._. does anyone know the answer to my question?

brewster240

if it has s13 control arms, tie rods, etc, someone swapped them in.

240zach

lolol i get it

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EDacIouSX

you just contradicted yourself. you have an s14 that has s13 parts from the factory. S14s did not come with s13 parts... they look very similar and some parts are, i believe, identical. The outer tie rods are the same but the inner's are different, I beleive s14 inner tie rods are longer.

If you truly have s13 suspension then someone swapped it in. I have a may of 94 s14, production number ~8000 and it's 100% s14..... there's a cut off date for OBD2, I'm not sure what that day is but I believe mine is OBD2. Supposedly 3C ecu's are OBD2 and I had a 3C ecu.

orion

nah the outers are a bit bigger, I found that out when i had to go and replace a tie rod inner, and i ordered an s14 part and it didn't work. also the control arms are both s13, and i'm PRETTY sure they had come with the car because the person who owned the car before me wouldn't have swapped them out.

skysilvias13

Are you new to the whole 240sx thing because if your not by now you'd be able to understand everyone and their mommas momma may have touched your 240sx. I had a 95 that had ford stuff on it before. I wouldn't be surprised if someone or a shop that claimed to be professionals molested your 240sx.

KendallH

so i've got a 4th gen camaro that has the production date of 94, i noticed that a few parts like the tie rod and control arm stuff is mustang stuff rather than normal camaro, and i was wondering if my springs/coils would also be mustang, or should i shop for camaro?

also fun fact, although it's a 94 production date it has obd2 ._.

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240zach

just like the 2013 cars are already here...a 95 s14 came out in mid 94..

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dluevanos01

WUUT!!!

Oh I get it! ahaha


OP you should be using S14 stuff!!! unless you know or have researched that they are the same between s13 and s14.

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240zach

and the only real difference between the 2 control arms is the s14 arm is 10mm longer. the previous owner was probably a dumbass and overlooked it and just put 2 s13 arms on there

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brewster240

no they arent.

no, because the ball joints are different, so unless he rigged it together, that means it has s13 front knuckles too!

FRpilot

Earliest s14 production date I've seen is 3/94.

I thought obd2 came on second half of 95 production date and I think i even read that rdm russ said all 95 240sx were obd1 regardless of production date (don't quote me on that). Odd that you think your may 94 production date s14 is obd2. Are you sure?

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EDacIouSX

i'm not sure. jim wolf says it's obd2, i always thought it was obd1.






If you're so sure it's S13 parts. take a picture of it and show us.

killer240

that should work.

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1on1

Just to clarify about OBD1 and OBD2 zenki's:

If you have a 95 240sx, it will be smogged as OBD1 regardless what anyone says. However, this is the year when Nissan started to convert to OBD2 so owners to have a 3C/3D, it's a hybrid harness and classified as OBD2 but are being smogged as OBD1.

My production date is 7/95 (or 6/95, I forgot) and it's classified as OBD1.

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yomisiu

i took my "94" zenki to a shop to check out the engine light. confusion ensued.
they were sure it was OBD1 but turned out to be OBD2. and thats my cool story.

Piggy

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FRpilot

I was strictly talking about obd1 and obd2 and production dates for smog purposes because I'm interested in that myself.

If you are talking about parts interchangability, you are right that op has s14 parts. Maybe some of the things that are same between s13 and s14 like 4 lug hubs and oem steelies use the same partake with different part numbers, but things that are obviously different like rear struts and tie rods are s14 specific.

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Karlitos

I have a 6/94 S14 and it gives OBD 2 codes via the nissan plug in the fuse box. It gives OBD 2 codes and acts like OBD 2. The OBD2 plug on the passenger side of the center console does not work. It has all other OBD2 stuff, but IIRC it smogged like OBD1.

And for your suspension make sure you measure things out before making assumptions. The correct lengths of stuff is out there (search) and double check to make sure it really is s13, id be surprised and it probably is s14 stuff.

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godsmack

The only difference for coilovers for the front are that where the strut/coilover mounts to the knuckle the S14 has bigger bolts than the S13. Other than that they are identical. You can use S13 fronts if you drill the holes on the coilovers or put bushings in the knuckle.

C. Anderson

If you had s13 flca you would have serious positive camber.

Bushido

this thread sucks!

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brndck

s13 tie rods are not the same as s14. 14 are larger diameter. you cannot mix and match.
s13 lca are not the same as s14. 14 are 10mm longer, and the balljoint is different. you CAN press an s13 ball joint into an s14 arm, or vice versa, but what ever spindle/knuckle you run must match the ball joint you use.

if your s14 has s13 parts on it, someone fucked up.

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Infamax

This is true.

EDacIouSX

ok cool, I didn't know that. That would explain why jim wolf says it's obd2. Yes, my 94 s14 has always smogged as OBD1.

todd5854

Fun fact of cars produced for the USDM market:

a production date of 7/94 indicates it's for the 1995 model year. Both of the '94 convertible s13's I've had were produced in 7/93 and 8/93, respectively. Certain companies use 6/94 for 1995 model year (Such as Nissan)

I remember reading somewhere a few times that the first two years of the S14 used many s13 parts, and apparently some were still 4 lug. Buy the parts for your 95 S14, they will be designed to fit that car.