View Full Version : My KA-t is complete, **pictures**
s14unimog
11-29-2005, 12:33 PM
finally got most of the kinks out of the system and the s14 is back to daily driver duty....
209rwhp
242rwtq at 10psi
here are a few pictures...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/s14unimog/blurple003.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/s14unimog/KA-Tfinallydone004.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/s14unimog/KA-Tfinallydone002.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/s14unimog/KA-Tfinallydone001.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/s14unimog/KA-Tfinallydone006.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/s14unimog/KA-Tfinallydone008.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/s14unimog/KA-Tfinallydone005.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/s14unimog/KA-Tfinallydone010.jpg
a picture of the manifold before the heat changed it..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/s14unimog/KA-Tprogressdaytwo001.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/s14unimog/DSC01491.jpg
Nan Desu Ka?!
11-29-2005, 12:55 PM
very clean. i like the sleeper approch. keep up the good work!:D
IES13
11-29-2005, 12:59 PM
What size intercooler are you running?
s14unimog
11-29-2005, 01:03 PM
stock S13 SR
nigel1
11-29-2005, 01:06 PM
looks great! looks stock! +2
Ritz S14
11-29-2005, 01:12 PM
Specs would be nice.
trsilvias13
11-29-2005, 01:15 PM
very nice at first i thought it was a black top sr20de with turbo kit. very sleeper and stock looking under the hook. congrats.
i 2nd the spec please part.
what injectors ? waht fuel management?
MrBrightSide
11-29-2005, 01:37 PM
good look...not much chrome piping bs, just the way I want mines...
s14unimog
11-29-2005, 02:49 PM
sr t25, sr sidemount with stock piping and bov, 370cc sr injectors, SAFC I, act stage 2, 300zx tt fuel pump and filter, custom 2.75inch turbo back exhaust, xo2 racing manifold, injen intake, stock MAFS, JGS oil lines, custom heat shield, lower heat range plugs, retarded timing, and Balanced Performance Dyno tunning.
mistaanime
11-29-2005, 03:14 PM
looks hella stock..really really nice
Nan Desu Ka?!
11-29-2005, 03:20 PM
i love stock looking swaps, bling gets old after ALWAYS seeing it. agian A+ work. slap a fmic on it for added tastyness. :D i hope when i do my KA-T sometime next year it will look that clean.
drifter808
11-29-2005, 03:33 PM
Looks incredible! first time i looked it looked like a blacktop. Very nice, and a nice car to.
Al_S14
11-29-2005, 03:57 PM
thumbs way the hell up!! really like how you designed that heat shield for MC...looks profecional and way functional.
what downpipe did you use ? was it custom or does somoen offer one that is bolt on deal with that turbo?
NemeGuero
11-29-2005, 04:04 PM
damn.. I like that. No officer.. its stock.
Jonnie Fraz
11-29-2005, 05:06 PM
Nice job on your install, looks great. I was thinking about doing somthing like that to my S13. Out here in Cali it helps to be stealth.
AutoRnD
11-29-2005, 05:14 PM
Very clean...
i like it alot..
even like the heat shielding for the brake MC
A++
MELLO*SOS
11-29-2005, 05:36 PM
+1 for stealth/sleeper
nice job on the heat shield
s14unimog
11-29-2005, 06:23 PM
thanks for all the complements guys, I'm not a big fan of crazyness, the goal was to make it fun quick and look like Nissan put it there, but a front mount is on its way. I made that heat shield in my shop with some spare SS I had laying around, works 20 times better than I ever thought it would have.
the exhaust is custom down pipe, high flow cat, and HKS Hiper catback.
as for the interior I keep'd it clean...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/s14unimog/KA-Tprogressdayone002.jpg
ranisron
11-29-2005, 06:49 PM
sleeper status inside and out. bib prop! I bet the KA now makes the car really fun to drive.
+++ on the MC heat shield.
I wonder when my car would ever power...
wootwoot
11-29-2005, 06:58 PM
I just like it. Do something about that side mount though!!! I'm not talking about going to a front mount but just to a thicker/larger more efficent sidemount.
vinhisbored
11-29-2005, 09:35 PM
I'm jealous.. my KA-T project is taking forever.. how much did you spend?
NemeGuero
11-29-2005, 09:57 PM
Going with a front mount will eliminate that 'stock-ness' you have in the bay. Also, it'll be visible from up front. I think you should keep the set-up the way it is.
EchoOfSilence
11-29-2005, 10:03 PM
is there any upgrade to a sidemount? I kinda wanna know for my plans, but the zenki bumper is giving me problems with how to provide enough flow to anything that's side-mounted :-/
NemeGuero
11-29-2005, 10:18 PM
possibly a Z32TT side mount?
Cashizslick
11-29-2005, 10:20 PM
Nice car dude, mad kleen!
is there any upgrade to a sidemount? I kinda wanna know for my plans, but the zenki bumper is giving me problems with how to provide enough flow to anything that's side-mounted :-/
FMIC y0!
genetic
11-30-2005, 12:54 AM
Nice and Clean!
i like it.
jedi_first_degree
11-30-2005, 01:00 AM
Nice sleeper look! :coolugh:
pr240sx
11-30-2005, 05:30 AM
Good looking car!!!
More or less my kind of setup
Cheap, functional and well done.
As for the intercooler, you can run a water intercooler or use water injection. In my opinion, if it run good, reliable and fast, leave it like that.
Or make some ducting to help the intercooler.
s14unimog
11-30-2005, 08:56 AM
yeah more than likely a front mount wouldn't come until next summer when it would be more needed, as for now the side mount is staying, I love it that no one knows my car is turbo charged. As for the final tab, more or less around 800, tunning included. $800-> +70rwhp and +100rwtq ---->I'm happy!
Thanks again for all the complements, I'm glad to see there are more people out there that are for the more sedate sleeper look.
wootwoot
11-30-2005, 11:31 AM
possibly a Z32TT side mount?
Those things are poopy too. DSM sidemounts are pretty thick from the 2nd gen's. I would honestly make my own side mount and then make some trick ass ducting for that thing. Still cost less than a fmic. Possibly do some sort of water sparyer/co2 or something onto it too.
SR20d2fourT
11-30-2005, 11:33 AM
Beautiful car...only 800 bucks? damn, good deal. Hope you keep it clean. NICE JOB! A+
95Blue240sx
11-30-2005, 11:39 AM
Where'd you get the manifold? ebay? I saw the xo racing page on ebay, but only top mounts. How much was it?
crioten
11-30-2005, 05:06 PM
for the sidemount, you could get a core and weld endtanks on it... pick whatever you want...
if you went to a fmic, what kindd of gains would you see?
jayka
11-30-2005, 05:28 PM
nice job and only 800, cant go wrong with that
SimpleS14
11-30-2005, 05:43 PM
$800-> +70rwhp and +100rwtq ---->I'm happy!
Specs please....or is that your secret? haha
That is a very clean job, wish you can mass produce that MC heat shield. :D
95Blue240sx
11-30-2005, 10:38 PM
Another question for you, is the downpipe/elbow custom or did you use parts from an sr? pics please.
s14unimog
12-01-2005, 09:05 AM
the dump pipe is stock SR and as for that heat shield, if some one gave me a offer I could fab one up for you. I don't have pics of thedump pipe right now but...I will say that runs very close to the bell housing. the setup is on the first page but here it is again...
SR T25 turbo and (dump pipe, hotpipe elbow, intake elbows)
300zxtt fuel pump and filter
sr 370cc injectors
xo2 SS manifold
custom 2.75" down pipe, high flow cat and HKS hiper catback
SR sidemount piping and BOV
SAFC I
ACT stage 2 clutch
my little heat shield
JGS SS oil lines
Injen intake
and random parts (vaccum lines, bolts etc...)
s14unimog
12-01-2005, 11:36 AM
I paid 112 shipped for the manifold
TheSpeedFactor
12-01-2005, 12:57 PM
looks like you did a good job man. enjoy it.
s14unimog
12-01-2005, 07:39 PM
thanks, i'm so happy that so many people like my car.
SimpleSexy180
12-01-2005, 08:04 PM
clean shit, keep it up
ALTRNTV
12-01-2005, 08:09 PM
Nice and clean set-up. Makes me want to do my KA-T even sooner..
s14unimog
12-01-2005, 08:12 PM
thrashed on it alittle tonight and it seems bigger wheels are the next upgrade....205/55/16 kumho 712's have no chance under boost in first gear....I LOVE IT, so beastly feeling
ALTRNTV
12-01-2005, 08:17 PM
Roughly, how much did you spend on the set-up? The set-up I want is similar to yours.
SimpleS14
12-01-2005, 08:25 PM
Roughly, how much did you spend on the set-up? The set-up I want is similar to yours.
$800-> +70rwhp and +100rwtq ---->I'm happy!
Unless you want a parts breakdown list WITH pricing....which is something I don't mind seeing (if its cool with him).
ALTRNTV
12-01-2005, 08:46 PM
My bad. I wanted a breakdown in pricing, since $800 is a damn good amount to spend for what he has.
s14unimog
12-01-2005, 08:50 PM
dyno charts at ya'lls request....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/s14unimog/DSC01491.jpg
vinhisbored
12-01-2005, 09:02 PM
LOLness is all I can say. I envy you. I've been putting a KA-T project together for the last.. 6-7 months? Haha and I hit the oh so great $4,300 mark! TIGHTNESS.. Nice job though I like it. Where do you live by the way?
JDMark
12-01-2005, 09:04 PM
nice, awesome job.
imo one thing that would make the engine bay look perfect; stock fan shroud
ALTRNTV
12-01-2005, 09:07 PM
Where do you live by the way?
I'm guessing Georgia. :x:
Can you make a list of how much the parts cost individually?
s14unimog
12-01-2005, 09:08 PM
thats too stock for me buddy, I love the way everyhting looks just the way it is
s14unimog
12-01-2005, 09:28 PM
ahh.... all prices are shipped prices
manifold 112
injectors 85
safc I 115
oil lines 82
turbo 125
sidemount, bov, piping 140
fuel pump free
clutch free
tunning 150
random misc. 120
exhaust free
heat shield free
install free
intake and hot pipe elbows 50
oil return 6 (ace hardware)
I think thats everything, but some how it came out to around 800ish so if I forgot a few things, my B, but that should cover the main parts
Good guess, Athens Georgia!
Neejay
12-02-2005, 07:12 AM
Oh snap, right in town with me! lol
Nice setup man. You're lucky enough not to have to pay for labor. And you make the ka-t setup seem so easy. The only thing that deters me from it is having to find a decent dohc in good enough condition not to have to build up lol.
A lot of times when I read about the setups, it seems difficult...
m072514
12-02-2005, 08:10 AM
that shits hot, man. and you cant beat the price. i love it.
ScottMan
12-02-2005, 09:59 AM
Oh snap, right in town with me! lol
well shoot me a PM and we should hang out, always looking for more Nissan folks!
Al_S14
12-02-2005, 04:12 PM
s14unimog, if you could guess is there any chance SR downpipe will bolt on with rest of the exhaust?
crioten
12-02-2005, 08:32 PM
s14unimog, if you could guess is there any chance SR downpipe will bolt on with rest of the exhaust?
the sr downpipe will fit with the ssautochrome BOTTOM mount manifold using the t25, not sure about t28, but it should...
some people have to either smack the firewall a little for clearance, but it depends on a lot of factors...
CHARLIE2020
12-02-2005, 08:45 PM
the sr downpipe will fit with the ssautochrome BOTTOM mount manifold using the t25, not sure about t28, but it should...
some people have to either smack the firewall a little for clearance, but it depends on a lot of factors...
Thats good to know, i'll be doing basically the same setup to on my S13.
Loofee95SE
12-02-2005, 09:12 PM
Brandon, good job that look really nice, and make the same power with my CA, with less money spent, mad prop for u..(btw this is C the guy that brought ur coupe earlier this year) we need to meet up again soon. C
dct223
12-02-2005, 11:57 PM
very clean KAT, i approve
SimpleS14
12-03-2005, 08:18 AM
What did you do about the oil return line? as in what (or where) to you tap into?
mistaanime
12-03-2005, 01:53 PM
haa...i ask that same question to everyone that did a Ka-t..can't find any pics..you can check out Ardjosh's kat setup he has pics..
NemeGuero
12-03-2005, 01:55 PM
haa...i ask that same question to everyone that did a Ka-t..can't find any pics..you can check out Ardjosh's kat setup he has pics..
You didn't ask me.
95Blue240sx
12-03-2005, 08:11 PM
^^^ive got a couple pics too.
Catch me on aim and ill send them over.
s14unimog
12-03-2005, 10:32 PM
Yeeah I really need to get under it an take some pictures... I will do that tomorrow for ya!
CHARLIE2020
12-03-2005, 10:51 PM
I also wanna know if the steel oil pan is fully submerged in oil when full, if it is this wouldn't make a good oil return place to tap as oil would back up in the return line and overfill in the turbo CHRA and oil flow past the seals and you would burn oil and damage the oil seals in the turbo.
s14unimog
12-03-2005, 11:21 PM
well the oil pickup is so close to my return line it probably doesn't back up too bad, but who knows.
CHARLIE2020
12-03-2005, 11:58 PM
well the oil pickup is so close to my return line it probably doesn't back up too bad, but who knows.
Oil pick up sits at the very lowest point possibe on the pan, the turbo oil return line should be able to gravity drain its oil from the CHRA at all times and should never be submerged in oil not even partially, if the oil is not able to return to the pan unrestricted it will back up in the CHRA and the oil will coke up and burn and sludge up the CHRA and the turbo will die due to lack of proper lubication.
harlockssx
12-04-2005, 04:33 AM
the sr downpipe will fit with the ssautochrome BOTTOM mount manifold using the t25, not sure about t28, but it should...
some people have to either smack the firewall a little for clearance, but it depends on a lot of factors...
T28 & T25 are the same dimensions other than the compressor, depending on what you use (S14, S15, aftermarket).
projectRDM
12-04-2005, 07:24 AM
Oil pick up sits at the very lowest point possibe on the pan, the turbo oil return line should be able to gravity drain its oil from the CHRA at all times and should never be submerged in oil not even partially, if the oil is not able to return to the pan unrestricted it will back up in the CHRA and the oil will coke up and burn and sludge up the CHRA and the turbo will die due to lack of proper lubication.
Correct. The oil does not fill the pan to the top when full, so anywhere below the top lip of the pan is fine for a return, if the bung is large enough (1/2"+) there shouldn't be any problem with oil backing up, especially since it's not under a lot of pressure leaving the turbo.
As far as feed, the best place is to pull right off the oil filter bracket, either in place of the OPS or next to it, there's a second port that's plugged, pull the plug and thread a fitting right in. I believe that's how Brandon did his, or hope he did it that way.
The SR downpipe will bolt right up if using an SR turbo outlet, but there's clearance issues against the floorboard, I'm running the SSA bottom mount with a GTi-R T28 and had to add an additional 3bolt flange in between the turbo outlet and downpipe as a spacer to get it off the floorboard. At the back end the downpipe flange (maybe not all, mine was an Ebay special) has a very slight angle to it, so it doesn't seal 100%. I added a flex pipe in to relieve stress on the manifold, this fixed the angle and sealed fine after that.
So basically you can use almost a complete SR parts list on a KA with very little issue.
Al_S14
12-04-2005, 10:42 AM
Correct. The oil does not fill the pan to the top when full, so anywhere below the top lip of the pan is fine for a return, if the bung is large enough (1/2"+) there shouldn't be any problem with oil backing up, especially since it's not under a lot of pressure leaving the turbo.
As far as feed, the best place is to pull right off the oil filter bracket, either in place of the OPS or next to it, there's a second port that's plugged, pull the plug and thread a fitting right in. I believe that's how Brandon did his, or hope he did it that way.
The SR downpipe will bolt right up if using an SR turbo outlet, but there's clearance issues against the floorboard, I'm running the SSA bottom mount with a GTi-R T28 and had to add an additional 3bolt flange in between the turbo outlet and downpipe as a spacer to get it off the floorboard. At the back end the downpipe flange (maybe not all, mine was an Ebay special) has a very slight angle to it, so it doesn't seal 100%. I added a flex pipe in to relieve stress on the manifold, this fixed the angle and sealed fine after that.
So basically you can use almost a complete SR parts list on a KA with very little issue.
is this what you were talking about ? put a spacer after the dump pipe to extend it and make SR downpipe sit lower?
http://i3.ebayimg.com/04/i/04/53/d6/62_1_sbol.JPG
s14unimog
12-04-2005, 11:28 AM
so Russ do you think my 1/2" return will be fine being that low? As for the oil feed I have the JGS oil line kit so it uses a "T" from the oil pressure sensor. I'd love to see what your KA looks like these day so post some pictures if you have a chance.
projectRDM
12-04-2005, 11:38 AM
is this what you were talking about ? put a spacer after the dump pipe to extend it and make SR downpipe sit lower?
http://i3.ebayimg.com/04/i/04/53/d6/62_1_sbol.JPG
Correct. The studs are long enough that you can squeeze it in, just use a gasket on both sides. I intend to drop the downpipe and weld it on eventually, or cut and add a little pipe in to make it right. I'm not sure if this is due my turbo choice or not. SSA is supposedly making a direct fit KA downpipe when using the SR turbo due to various clearance issues anyway.
Brandon, where is the return line at? put a pic so we can get a better idea.
CHARLIE2020
12-04-2005, 12:02 PM
Here a pic he sent me hope he doesn't mind, wasn't clear if this was his car or another or an example but in the it appears the opposite side might be more ideal for a tap but would require a tiny bit tricky more routing.
But on the other hand the KA24DE oil pan is large I doubt 4 qt's reaches that hight migh be close though, it would be nice to have a spare and fill it with 4 quarts to see how high the oil gets.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/charlie2020/oil20return20line.jpg
Al_S14
12-04-2005, 12:05 PM
Here a pic he sent me hope he doesn't mind, wasn't clear if this was his car or another or an example but in the it appears the opposite side might be more ideal for a tap but would require a tiny bit tricky more routing.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/charlie2020/oil20return20line.jpg
this looks pretty good. if you just get AN Fitting with 90 or 45 degree to have it angled towrds the crossmember it will almsot be perfect i think. this is how i paln on doing my oil return.
wootwoot
12-04-2005, 01:20 PM
For some reason it looks low to me...After going through the turbo oil is basically a foam which is why you need no restriction.
NemeGuero
12-04-2005, 01:43 PM
Mine is like that as well.. only a little to the left (engine front). Should be fine.
projectRDM
12-04-2005, 03:41 PM
That is a little low, but I don't know how bad it'll be. The problem, like mentioned above, is the oil leaving the turbo is more foam than liquid, which will create air pockets in the oil because it's entering below the average level. *If* an air pocket was to be picked up in the strainer and into the oil pump you'd have a pressure drop. That could easily starve a bearing or release pressure on a tensioner which would cause the chain to jump at high revs. It also doesn't flow as well in the foam state and can back up a little.
I'll try to take a pic of mine tommorrow, but on a bottom mount setup there's an easier place to plumb in just past the engine mount, making the return hose a straight drop into the pan. I used a right angle heater hose end and welded it to the pan, so the hose is perfectly straight. I used a piece of 14mm hydraulic hose, it's high pressure, heat treated, and chemical resistant.
s14unimog
12-05-2005, 09:08 AM
mine is in about the same area as the one posted, I might see about inserting a 90 degree elbo into the oil pan to try and move it higher, but I'm not sure if I will be able to get it pasted the baffles and the oil pick up...we'll see I guess. pictures will be soon.
docrice
12-06-2005, 06:30 AM
Those dyno charts look pretty good, I'm a little surprised the t25 doesn't drop off more in the higher RPM...with a FMIC and a bit bigger turbo that thing would be pretty serious, but for the price I would definitely not complain. How quick does that thing spool up? It seems like it should be pretty quick...I'm probably gonna end up going with a t28 for my KA-T cause i like throttle response and quick spool up...
97DubTruck
12-06-2005, 07:43 AM
209 hp?
s14unimog
12-06-2005, 07:53 AM
yep....209 with really retarded timing (reason for such high TQ numbers) the turbo ends up spooling around the same as as SR I suppose, 2200-2400rpm
docrice
12-06-2005, 07:56 AM
209 hp?
whats the question here? if that sounds low, remember thats whp, and its a 50% increase over stock hp and a 70% increase over stock torque for under a grand. Good luck doing that another way. Also, thats with a relatively small turbo and IC...with a bit bigger snail and 'cooler, that thing would probably push another 30 peak whp or so (estimating there)...
97DubTruck
12-06-2005, 08:15 AM
whats the question here? if that sounds low, remember thats whp, and its a 50% increase over stock hp and a 70% increase over stock torque for under a grand. Good luck doing that another way. Also, thats with a relatively small turbo and IC...with a bit bigger snail and 'cooler, that thing would probably push another 30 peak whp or so (estimating there)...
Thanks for the explaination.
s14unimog
12-06-2005, 08:29 AM
standard SR swap 215rwhp at 10psi...$4000 < KA-T 209rwhp at 10psi...$800
97DubTruck
12-06-2005, 08:34 AM
standard SR swap 215rwhp at 10psi...$4000 < KA-T 209rwhp at 10psi...$800
That's relative. My stock sr internals held 320. You couldn't push that setup much further.
s14unimog
12-06-2005, 08:39 AM
YOUR stock internals held 320...most can handle that but not all SR's can...Statik..had the same turbo setup as your car did and blew his SR.....KA are known to hold over 350 but just like SR's some cannot....www.ka-t.org plus you can buy another KA for 400 bucks so tell me how thats relative.
97DubTruck
12-06-2005, 08:42 AM
Did your motor already explode a couple times with the previous owner turboing it?
I don't see too many ka's running more than 300 without the valve cover even taken off. For very long at least
97DubTruck
12-06-2005, 08:47 AM
Eh whatever I'm just trying to dump my seats and saw the thread.
Have fun.
s14unimog
12-06-2005, 08:47 AM
well keep your fingers crossed for me:x:
docrice
12-06-2005, 08:49 AM
That's relative. My stock sr internals held 320. You couldn't push that setup much further.
Lets not start a big SR vs. KA debate here...I'd reccomend looking at PDM racing's website, they just threw a turbo on their (severely) beat autox S13 with 210,000km on the motor and no rebuild, no internals, no nothing...with a t04 and good tuning they put down 295 whp on a beat-ass motor. Reguardless, both motors are very stout and the key to making power and not blowing motors is good tuning.
But thats not the point of this thread. this is about a well set-up car done on a budget. Sweet job man.
s14unimog
12-06-2005, 08:54 AM
thank you and very nicely put!
projectRDM
12-06-2005, 10:44 AM
We all know when tuned right, both motors can make over 400whp stock. And we also know that no matter what precautions are made if there's a history of abuse it really doesn't matter what you do, you're going to break it with much less power.
s14unimog
12-06-2005, 12:01 PM
I would agree tunning makes or breaks a motor... mine is tunned way rich and really retarded in timing....more liability but less power. I'm happy
s14unimog
12-06-2005, 12:01 PM
double post... my bad
beetlejuice
12-06-2005, 01:56 PM
Tune, Tuned, Tuning.
s14unimog
12-06-2005, 06:35 PM
Hey Russ are you running coolent lines on your turbo or does that turbo even have coolent lines?
projectRDM
12-06-2005, 09:33 PM
Hey Russ are you running coolent lines on your turbo or does that turbo even have coolent lines?
No I am not, but yes it does have coolAnt lines. I decided to forego any air bleeding issues by not running additional lines. If there was a better place to return on the exhaust side it might be worthwhile, but I also don't beat on it badly or shut it down hot, so there's no need for it.
s14unimog
12-06-2005, 10:16 PM
yeah same here I decided moderate driving and cool down time would be much better than coolent lines
CHARLIE2020
12-08-2005, 04:55 PM
S14unimog what approach did you take to removing your oil pan to tap it?
NemeGuero
12-08-2005, 05:49 PM
Drop the cross-member... OR
unbolt engine/tranny mounts and jack up motor really really high.. (its a bitch tho)
rossfashow
12-08-2005, 08:56 PM
that car is sweet, makes me want to do an a ka swap.. and turbo it.. i should have just rebuilt the ka motor with some forged internals. with that i could have saved so much more on the sr. i spend about 5k putting the sr swap together. and its all stock. should just rebuilt the blown ka and turbo'd it.
nigel1
12-09-2005, 03:25 PM
man thats the only thing holding me back from doing ka-t setup...
I realy dont feel like pulling the motor out any time soon. :( is it really hard to drop the cross member? I havent read much about it being done. but I see everyone and their mom with ka-t setups so I know people take one route or another...
so basically the answer im looking for is...
yes the crossmember is not that hard to drop... just go pu together your turbo kit and be done with it.
or
no the crossmember is a bitch, just pull the motor... :)
docrice
12-09-2005, 03:54 PM
man thats the only thing holding me back from doing ka-t setup...
I realy dont feel like pulling the motor out any time soon. :( is it really hard to drop the cross member? I havent read much about it being done. but I see everyone and their mom with ka-t setups so I know people take one route or another...
so basically the answer im looking for is...
yes the crossmember is not that hard to drop... just go pu together your turbo kit and be done with it.
or
no the crossmember is a bitch, just pull the motor... :)
Well, I decided to pull the motor out (not done yet, that's actually gonna happen in about a week). Reason? Consider this: how happy do you think your stock, abused, 1XXk miles clutch will like 240lb-ft(+ or -) of torque? So I said to myself "well shit, instead of dropping the tranny and the front crossmember to do 2 things that both need done, why not be smart and just yank the motor and tranny?"...Easy peazy to do both (and other stuff if there's more you want to do), slap that bitch back in there, and rock n roll...figure it would probably take a good full day to prep and pull the motor if you have a helper and you've never done it before, assuming you actually take the time to label stuff, drain fluids, and do a generally decent job of it. Don't anticipate it taking too long to pull, weld, and reinstall the pan, and the clutch is a quick job too (esp. with everything off the car).
That's my thoughts, but the decision is yours...
swwifty
12-09-2005, 04:54 PM
Very nice setup. I'm planning on eventually doing the same thing to my s14. I've got a t25 for really cheap with a SR downpipe just waiting to be installed. I'd love to check out your setup sometime and go for a ride!
projectRDM
12-09-2005, 09:39 PM
It's still way easier to drop the crossmember and transmission than to pull the engine. Crossmember takes 20 minutes, and with it lowered some the transmission will slip right out. And there's no need to pull the harness or drain all the fluids.
Look for the motor mount thread for crossmember removal info.
nigel1
12-10-2005, 12:51 AM
thanks guys for the replies.
me= ready to tackle ka-t
btw... great freakin job on the turbo setup.
I am considering mimicing your setup but with an fmic... but my problem is... the outside of my car is so done up that it would look pretty lame to not do the inside up as well...
95Blue240sx
12-10-2005, 10:04 AM
This is a great thread! Should link this to the KA-T thread.
Man i wanna do this setup, but its xmas time and i dont have any
[email protected][email protected]$
nigel1
12-10-2005, 12:46 PM
I know... me too... sux. especially when your girlfriend has a big family to buy presents for...
hey I was lookin around for "affordable" manifolds and turbos, and I was just wondering where you got yours and for how much...
95Blue240sx
12-10-2005, 02:34 PM
its on page 2 where he got the manifold.
tofast2sweet
12-10-2005, 03:10 PM
looks great! way to go!
s14unimog
12-20-2005, 05:55 PM
man thats the only thing holding me back from doing ka-t setup...
I realy dont feel like pulling the motor out any time soon. :( is it really hard to drop the cross member? I havent read much about it being done. but I see everyone and their mom with ka-t setups so I know people take one route or another...
so basically the answer im looking for is...
yes the crossmember is not that hard to drop... just go pu together your turbo kit and be done with it.
or
no the crossmember is a bitch, just pull the motor... :)
I did both actually, I dropped the cross member and raised the engine a little bit, its a pain either way you look at it.
As for all this positive feedback, I am so happy that my car got all of this attention and everyone can respect a decent budget build up, I highly recommend this setup to everyone and if you're in Atlanta/Athens GA then by all means send me a PM and I will be happy to show you my car. The more KA-T's the better!!!
Thanks again for all the complements, Zilvia!
tunedis95
12-21-2005, 06:26 PM
I can't wait....i'm going for the exact set up...The budget build for a dialy driver so far i have......found some good deals
sr370s - $80 shipped
z31 turbo(t25)-$50
PLX wideband - $150
SSchrome manifold - $60 shipped
Sr SMIC - Free came with clip when i did RHD conversion
Autometer Boost Guage - $40
i've been piecing parts together over 3 months now...lots of looking around.....
I'm almost there...Love the set up...very sleeper looking, if you have any other info or pics of engine stuff please hook me up :
[email protected]
also what is your timing at exactly....and hows the safc I working...i found one for $100
JDMark
12-21-2005, 07:46 PM
z31 is a t3, but yea ur gettin some good deals
tunedis95
12-22-2005, 07:05 AM
88-89 Z31 Turbo: VG30ET, CR 8.3:1, T25, 4.5psi, 205hp @ 5200, 227ft-lbs @ 3600
Turbo:
84: T3, oil lubricated, air cooled.
85-87: T3, oil lubricated, water cooled.
88-89: T25, oil lubricated, water cooled.
s14unimog
12-24-2005, 08:34 AM
mine is 13 degree's retarded
skiboard06
12-24-2005, 10:23 AM
can u please link me to a thread where you paid 110 shipped for your manifold thanks this thread is awesome well done
MikeMurphy
12-24-2005, 01:28 PM
Wow, I am loving that dyno graph.
Definitely an inspiration.
nigel1
12-25-2005, 03:46 AM
where you finding a good useable t3 for 50 bux?
NemeGuero
12-25-2005, 03:53 AM
Did you have to be inspired 3 times?
s14unimog
12-25-2005, 07:28 PM
thanks, oh BTW the manifold is from xo2racing.com
damn you nigel1, your car is a wet dream
Loofee95SE
12-25-2005, 09:47 PM
so, how is the manifold holding up so far?? I'm ordering mine next week.
hope to have my own Ka-T in Jan. C
nigel1
12-25-2005, 10:07 PM
Did you have to be inspired 3 times?
just like you, I put on my pants one leg at a time, and then I make a golden 240sx. this time I want a golden boosted 240sx.
or...
I got a fever; and the only perscription is an inexpensive turbo setup that works great.
ROFL
btw thank for compliment s14unimog ^_^
s14unimog
12-26-2005, 08:26 AM
just like you, I put on my pants one leg at a time, and then I make a golden 240sx. this time I want a golden boosted 240sx.
or...
I got a fever; and the only perscription is an inexpensive turbo setup that works great.
ROFL
btw thank for compliment s14unimog ^_^
I would love more pictures of your car if you get bored one day,
[email protected]
so far so good with the manifold :x:
the xo2 manifold looks good, and the price is great, so how is it holding up
SpdElemts
12-28-2005, 11:50 PM
That is a very nice setup...makes me want to go kat sooner.
Oh yea does anyone know by any chance if the Rb20 turbo is the same as the sr20? THanks
[HK]240sx
12-29-2005, 10:20 AM
Love the stock look. What lip is that?
NemeGuero
12-29-2005, 02:22 PM
I believe it's OEM
s14unimog
01-01-2006, 08:32 PM
its stock s14 oem,
Update...2000 miles and no hick up's, she's still pulling strong!!! fingers crossed
NemeGuero
01-01-2006, 11:02 PM
Nerve racking ain't it? Expecting something to go wrong?
Every time I drive my car I'm waiting for it.
krustindumm
01-02-2006, 10:05 AM
Here a pic he sent me hope he doesn't mind, wasn't clear if this was his car or another or an example but in the it appears the opposite side might be more ideal for a tap but would require a tiny bit tricky more routing.
But on the other hand the KA24DE oil pan is large I doubt 4 qt's reaches that hight migh be close though, it would be nice to have a spare and fill it with 4 quarts to see how high the oil gets.
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/charlie2020/oil20return20line.jpg[IMG]
put the dipstick in while the pan is off and just look at the *full* mark.
preveink
01-04-2006, 05:32 AM
very stealth and clean looking
s14unimog
01-04-2006, 01:15 PM
yeah, I've just heard of too many ka's popping so I'd rather worry and it not happen than not worry and it pop. I still get on it pretty hard, so we'll see.
NemeGuero
01-05-2006, 04:10 AM
Just make sure your AF ratios are good and you have enough oil pressure and you'll be good.
That will keep any boosted KA from popping. I don't beat on mine yet 'cuz I'm still not tuned. Sucks driving all that power like a grandma.
s14unimog
01-05-2006, 08:28 AM
I tend to check things religiously, so we'll see what happens
rsxrcr87
04-21-2006, 02:16 PM
i know this thread is old but i was wondering about your 300zx fuel pump how easy is it to install i have been searching and i cant find anything directly talking about it. is it plug and play or just some quick wiring or what? and anyone know if it will help not hurt a NA KA
S14DriftstaiN
04-21-2006, 03:49 PM
car looks great,nice set up.the dyno numbers are good to.there are stock sidemount upgrades,blitz,apexi.keep the sleeper look.
Irukandji
03-01-2007, 05:52 PM
OLD thread I know, but I wanted to know if there was any news with how the KA was running. I would've PM'd the original thread starter but I'm sure others will be interested as well.
up to the top you go
Funny you should ask. He just took it out last weekend and put a blacktop sr20 in. He's selling it as a ka-t now if anyone is interested. He had it in for over a year and it ran great. I'll tell him to check this thread so he can add to it.
s14unimog
03-02-2007, 09:14 AM
the motor runs great and pulled awesome right up to the day I pulled it. I put a black top in b/c I'm looking for mid 300's in power and I just don't want to do that on the KA-T. If anyone is interested in the Turbo KA I will be selling it soon in great working shape. I made sure to take video of the car right before I pulled it to prove its health.
projekt_s13
05-29-2007, 01:36 AM
the motor runs great and pulled awesome right up to the day I pulled it. I put a black top in b/c I'm looking for mid 300's in power and I just don't want to do that on the KA-T. If anyone is interested in the Turbo KA I will be selling it soon in great working shape. I made sure to take video of the car right before I pulled it to prove its health.
Link to the video?
Irukandji
05-29-2007, 01:40 AM
he swapped in an SR long ass time ago
projekt_s13
05-29-2007, 01:50 AM
he swapped in an SR long ass time ago
Yea i know, but I wanna see the video of the ka-t he said he took.
gunluvS14
05-29-2007, 10:38 AM
awesome, love how stock it looks.
great torque curve
RARE Mediterranean blue too :) Bluple car FTW
s14unimog
05-30-2007, 08:30 AM
haha, awesome ITS STILL ALIVE! If some one could host the video I would be more than happy to post video's of the KA-T in action. PM me, I'll send you everything!
pbcstylez
05-30-2007, 12:31 PM
youtube it!....
s14unimog
05-30-2007, 12:52 PM
same problem I have with photobucket (10mins, or 100mb)
for some reason there all like 500mb ish and AVI.
how do I compress/format?
s14canyoncity
09-18-2009, 08:34 PM
bring some life to this post... nice work!!!
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