ca18det in an S14

[Team Rootbeer]

is it possible??? just wondering if anyone has ever done it, i gotta low budget and i think it would be pretty unique

[jOeHaCk98]

yes. done before.

[Team Rootbeer]

do you have any info on it? does anyone make a custom harness for the swap or is it not common enough?

[TheSnail]

I can make the harness for you. What year s14?

[Team Rootbeer]

95, how much

anyone know a good place to buy the motor?

[240trainee]

Your friend (http://forums.nicoclub.com/zeroforum?id=126)

Not a big fan of Nico anymore, but this is the best CA resource I found when I was doing my swap. I don't remember what shop, but there was a guy who worked for a shop that had a CA18 stroked iirc to 1.9, then swapped it out for an SR and promptly blew it up. hahaha :Ownedd:

[Team Rootbeer]

yea dont really like the site.....but w/e will help so ill check it out.....no one on here has done the swap?

[JH]

#1: if you're on a "low budget," don't do ANY swap...especially a budget so low that you're considering putting a CA18DET into an S14
#2: see #1

[Team Rootbeer]

well, by low budget i mean i was considering turboing the ka instead of an sr......which can be done for much less....but i think this would be alot more unique, dunno just had lightbulb pop up in my head today

[free7unch]

well, by low budget i mean i was considering turboing the ka instead of an sr......which can be done for much less....but i think this would be alot more unique, dunno just had lightbulb pop up in my head today

a very dim light that is.

[240trainee]

yea dont really like the site.....but w/e will help so ill check it out.....no one on here has done the swap?

Lol, it's not hard dude. the swap is the same as an SR in an S13, therfore, the same changes you encounter putting a red top in an S14, you would encounter with a CA18. which is only a couple, if any. and NEVER do an engine swap on a tight budget, lol, that was my swap downfall. Don't be a cheap ass on some things, engine swap being one.

[projectRDM]

Very, very easy. Same mounting as SR, nearly same wiring as SR.

[Team Rootbeer]

yea, didnt really think about it being the same as a redtop sr swap...hmm this is looking better every minute

[TheSnail]

I can load the tools in the truck, drive to you, instal it and have you on the road in less then a day. For $300 plus gas.

[Phlip]

I can load the tools in the truck, drive to you, instal it and have you on the road in less then a day. For $300 plus gas.
And with that being said, I will do the very same thing for you for $299.98 (j/k)

[TheSnail]

But Phlip has strings attached, by living in NC. His price is 2cents lower them mine, but dont let him fool you on the 59.98 extra $ for gas. ;)

:fruit: :whip:

[Team Rootbeer]

awesome....snail are you talking ab the swap for that price or the wiring.....bc ive never swapped a motor b4, and i could use some help and would love to have it done in one day

[TheSnail]

300$ + gas for the whole swap including wiring. Im the cheapest, yet the best:) We can bump it to 400$ if you wish.

[sLiDewAys]

yeah, ther are a lot of ca-s14 owners on nico supprisingly........ kinda out of subject but cuzan0's ca18 on nico is s till 1.8L and puting 277 wheel on simple bolt ons.. i can get dyno vid and post link if anyone is intrested..

[blu808]

Ok i understand the cheapness of the ca powerplant, etc. But you may want to consider a different powertrain seeing as there is little aftermarket support, and oem parts availible comparitive to sr20 parts, or even rb parts.

Also That is a very old motor.

Just thought i would put a thought into it for you.

[thesilviadaemon]

and oem parts availible comparitive to sr20 parts, or even rb parts.

OEM parts are MUCH easier to find than sr20, or rb. Almost all the parts to the CA can be gotten at your local parts store.

Hey Spenc, this is Brandon. I can help you with the motor swap, but it won't get done in a day :loco:

[sLiDewAys]

Ok i understand the cheapness of the ca powerplant, etc. But you may want to consider a different powertrain seeing as there is little aftermarket support, and oem parts availible comparitive to sr20 parts, or even rb parts.

Also That is a very old motor.

Just thought i would put a thought into it for you.

such a predictable SR owner remarck... there is a lot of arftermarket support seeing that all the turbo and plumbing from sr can be directly linked to the ca18 w/ minor changes. all yuour fuel injector needs can be found at the local junk yards for under 100.00. as for tuning, w hich becomes a problem becasue not many people int eh states care for ca nor want to reflash their ECM's but u can pikc up these ROM chips CUSTOM from this guy online, he tunes and sets them for your specific settings and u just SAFC the rest........ as for ca18 being OLD? what... by 1 year? LMAOs erriously they stopped production in 91 which is when sr debuted... which is probly the year half the sr's here on zilvia are. as for ca18 parts being a rarity to find for replacment, you can jsut go down to the junk yard and pull most of everything off of ca16de ( cams, water pump pulley and some other things i havent uet tried) the dealership can get just about oanyand everything for th e ca18de and ca18et turbo from the s12 200sx. and by the motor being old has nothing to do with how it will perform if it is in good running condition...unles your car houses one and youve tried to see its potential when moded then dont speak.. the sr20 is a good decent motor but just take a look at the ca's characteristics, closely similar to rb.





***quote) from midwest240sx.com

"The Technical @#%$:

The CA used an iron block unlike the SR which runs an aluminum block but despite that there is not much of an overall weight difference in the two motors. The CA LIKE THE SR has the piston oil squirters and crank stud girdle. The SR uses a 4 runner manifold into a 4 port head, the CA on the other hand runs a 4 runner manifold that splits into 8 entering the head as an 8 runner manifold. The big difference in the two motors is in the valvetrains. The SR20 only has 4 cam lobes per cam not 8 like the CA does. With 8 valves per side on the SR Nissan had to use a rocker arm arrangement to actuate paired valves simultaneously from a single lobe. It's cheaper to implement than the CA's setup but causes valvetrain loss and noise. The CA runs true 8 lobe cams which act directly on top of the valves. Much more effecient, less moving parts, better revs, etc.. That's one of the reasons that the CA is considered to be a more FREE REVVING engine than the SR. The biggest advantage the SR20 has is it is a bigger capacity motor. 2.0L in comparison to the CA's 1.8 ( no replacement for dispacement right?) . The SR20 has a relatively long stroke, it's stroke is longer than the width of it's bore. The stroke to rod length ratio is at a point where the engine still revs well, but it suffers from "excess stroke". This is another reason the the ca is considered to be better reving (smoother not higher), unlike the SR with it's "over-square" design the CA uses a square design (stroke=bore). The SR is capable of handling more power on the stock bottom end. I've heard of 400-450PS being possible with the correct tuning on a stock SR bottom end while 400PS isn't quite feasble with an CA18DET... A big reason again being the difference in displacement.
(quote) from midwest240sx.com*****

[Var]

2 shitty motors battle it out. who will win? who cares.

[420sx]

wow..... LOW budget.... puting a junked OLD as my grandma motor in. what, do you expect for it not to break on you soon?
you got cash for straight up rebuild? no? then forget about it.
for drift = ka is the shit.= low $

[JH]

there is a lot of arftermarket support seeing that all the turbo and plumbing from sr can be directly linked to the ca18 w/ minor changes. all yuour fuel injector needs can be found at the local junk yards for under 100.00. as for tuning, w hich becomes a problem becasue not many people int eh states care for ca nor want to reflash their ECM's but u can pikc up these ROM chips CUSTOM from this guy online, he tunes and sets them for your specific settings and u just SAFC the rest........

awesome! so to get parts to work on the CA18 you need to either modify them or get them from the junkyard??? I'm sold!! that's the RIGHT way to do it i tell ya!
post from other board is erroneous btw... i.e. sr20 is square motor, not over-square... and how many people have personally had revving problems with sr20 besides what they read about on the internet? it does happen, but not as often the internet tells you, esp if you're not a negligent driver. aw shit whoops, this is zilvia.... um.... ok don't get sr20s pls.

[blu808]

such a predictable SR owner remarck... there is a lot of arftermarket support seeing that all the turbo and plumbing from sr can be directly linked to the ca18 w/ minor changes. all yuour fuel injector needs can be found at the local junk yards for under 100.00. as for tuning, w hich becomes a problem becasue not many people int eh states care for ca nor want to reflash their ECM's but u can pikc up these ROM chips CUSTOM from this guy online, he tunes and sets them for your specific settings and u just SAFC the rest........ as for ca18 being OLD? what... by 1 year? LMAOs erriously they stopped production in 91 which is when sr debuted... which is probly the year half the sr's here on zilvia are. as for ca18 parts being a rarity to find for replacment, you can jsut go down to the junk yard and pull most of everything off of ca16de ( cams, water pump pulley and some other things i havent uet tried) the dealership can get just about oanyand everything for th e ca18de and ca18et turbo from the s12 200sx. and by the motor being old has nothing to do with how it will perform if it is in good running condition...unles your car houses one and youve tried to see its potential when moded then dont speak.. the sr20 is a good decent motor but just take a look at the ca's characteristics, closely similar to rb.





***quote) from midwest240sx.com

"The Technical @#%$:

The CA used an iron block unlike the SR which runs an aluminum block but despite that there is not much of an overall weight difference in the two motors. The CA LIKE THE SR has the piston oil squirters and crank stud girdle. The SR uses a 4 runner manifold into a 4 port head, the CA on the other hand runs a 4 runner manifold that splits into 8 entering the head as an 8 runner manifold. The big difference in the two motors is in the valvetrains. The SR20 only has 4 cam lobes per cam not 8 like the CA does. With 8 valves per side on the SR Nissan had to use a rocker arm arrangement to actuate paired valves simultaneously from a single lobe. It's cheaper to implement than the CA's setup but causes valvetrain loss and noise. The CA runs true 8 lobe cams which act directly on top of the valves. Much more effecient, less moving parts, better revs, etc.. That's one of the reasons that the CA is considered to be a more FREE REVVING engine than the SR. The biggest advantage the SR20 has is it is a bigger capacity motor. 2.0L in comparison to the CA's 1.8 ( no replacement for dispacement right?) . The SR20 has a relatively long stroke, it's stroke is longer than the width of it's bore. The stroke to rod length ratio is at a point where the engine still revs well, but it suffers from "excess stroke". This is another reason the the ca is considered to be better reving (smoother not higher), unlike the SR with it's "over-square" design the CA uses a square design (stroke=bore). The SR is capable of handling more power on the stock bottom end. I've heard of 400-450PS being possible with the correct tuning on a stock SR bottom end while 400PS isn't quite feasble with an CA18DET... A big reason again being the difference in displacement.
(quote) from midwest240sx.com*****

Ohh sorry. I really must not know anything about these motors considering i have done countless sr swaps, a few ca swaps, and rb swaps. Im just saying the ca is a piece of crap. Thats my opinion, and get over it.

BTW i have blown up many sr motors and I believe they suck as well. Thats why im going to a ls1.

[TheTicTac]

Ohh sorry. I really must not know anything about these motors considering i have done countless sr swaps, a few ca swaps, and rb swaps. Im just saying the ca is a piece of crap. Thats my opinion, and get over it.

BTW i have blown up many sr motors and I believe they suck as well. Thats why im going to a ls1.

So LS1's don't blow up?

[Phlip]

So LS1's don't blow up?
I have never seen one blown the fuck up for what seems to be no reason at all, while I personally know 2 people and have talked with 3-5 others who have blown SRs up under what was basically normal operation and I even know a couple of KAs to send themselves off to hell for no apparent reason.

[raen419]

spenc, it's a great idea.
brandon, C, mario, and myself can help you with the swap.
C has done 2 CA swaps in the past like....year and a half. it's not hard. just need wiring mainly...and that's not too complicated.

[NismoSilvia270R]

http://www.paddy.co.jp

f'it

i got a magazine [?'king of used parts'?] that has garage paddy's ca18det s14 on the cover.

its yellow and silver

if i find pics that work...

[Phlip]

http://www.paddy.co.jp
all I saw on that page was this:

Underconstruction

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‚Ã*‚¤‚µ‚΂ç‚*‚¨‘Ò‚¿‚*†šÂ¾â€šÂ³â€šÂ¢Â�B

... and I don't understand that gibberish at the bottom

[sdtouge]

ca swap in a s13 is the same wiring as sr swap except lower harness all plugs up great and some people choose to wire there knock sensor differently.

people that use there is no replacement for displacement to win on te sr vs ca battle are morons. they should have stuck with a ka. (wich ive blown, 2, one o them a month old from a rebuild or so).

ca does have power, and same gears so you cant complain about a weak tranny. the ca is also 44 pounds light than the sr. there are lots of aftermarket parts out there, sits liek ebay, tomie (makes everytihng for the ca) and taikira.net or sometihng liek that.

dyno proven with a exhaust and a sr s13 turbo ca18 makes the same power as stock sr.

in the long run, the ca can handle MORE horse power being iron, and aluminm can not handle the stress as well as a iron block.

in japan there is a guy 650hp stock bottom end just pistons. that is good for a 1.8 liter.

ca and sr both have there strong and weak points it just comes down to what you like, torque, or a tuff ass motor than can rev to the sky all day long.

[sdtouge]

650 in a 1.8 liter is the same power/liter as a 2liter with 722.22222222225 hp. just a fyi

[NismoSilvia270R]

all I saw on that page was this:

Underconstruction

‚½‚¾‚¢‚ÜÂ�A‚±‚̃yÂ�[Æ’W‚Ã�Â�€â€�õ’â€*‚Å‚·Â�B
‚Ã*‚¤‚µ‚΂ç‚*‚¨‘Ò‚¿‚*†šÂ¾â€šÂ³â€šÂ¢Â�B

... and I don't understand that gibberish at the bottom


yeah sorry bout that. note my edit. but if you guys can read hiragana(mines really bad) ill scan the article. probably wont help any, except for cool pics.

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/bcdc44/album?.dir=32c6&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/ph//my_photos

[JH]

in japan there is a guy 650hp stock bottom end just pistons. that is good for a 1.8 liter.

1) there's people who rev to 12K with old dodge slant 6s... does that mean everyone can and should do the same?
2) what is the chance that anyone who is doing a CA18 swap in the US will ever even do anything to their motors to reach the same supposed potential as the one guy in Japan? (remember, 97% of people who do CA swaps in the US do so because they are poor.) how many motors did the japper dude go through before he was able to attain the "formula" for keeping his stock motor together? there's more $$$
3) "just pistons" actually isn't too stock btw...
4) NO motor self destructs on its own w/o poor negligence on the owner/driver's behalf, save for some notable ones (in Nissan's history to keep it relevant) such as the first U20s and VH45s etc...
5) RPM = Ruins People's Motors

[TheTicTac]

I have never seen one blown the fuck up for what seems to be no reason at all, while I personally know 2 people and have talked with 3-5 others who have blown SRs up under what was basically normal operation and I even know a couple of KAs to send themselves off to hell for no apparent reason.

Damn pretty scary, good thing they didn't mass produce the SR.. or KA :tweak:

Constant High revs will bring down the LS1 or any motor for that matter. From what I have seen the piston rings do a number on the walls and the stock oil pan needs to go if you plan on a high g/machine. Do you ever wonder why LS7 went dry sump?

[Team Rootbeer]

what up bama boys.....we should be doing the swap sometime ive made my decision and im gonna do it, later boys c u all sunday at barbers
on the other hand......sr is to much for me.....im not poor, but i just graduated hs and dont really have a lotta cash for my car right now so the ca seems like a good choice

[JH]

im not poor, but i just graduated hs and dont really have a lotta cash for my car right now so the ca seems like a good choice

how bout putting less money into the following:
- full tune up on the existing engine
- replacing ALL fluids
- coilovers and brakes
- a weekend at a driving school

You will end up with a car (and driver: you) 10x faster than the same car with a CA18 swap, and 100x less chance of crashing it...

[TheSnail]

The CA is so old, that it sat behind Jesus in the second grade.

Okay that was a rip-off lame joke, but seriously the engineering plans for it were written with rock and chisel. Ok Im serious now, The Ca is great. I had one stock on 14psi with a sr turbo put down 224rwhp. 223rwtq. run sr's run

[Phlip]

how bout putting less money into the following:
- full tune up on the existing engine
- replacing ALL fluids
- coilovers and brakes
- a weekend at a driving school

You will end up with a car (and driver: you) 10x faster than the same car with a CA18 swap, and 100x less chance of crashing it...
That is likely the best advice given in this thread, but it will likely fall upon deaf ears, if for only one reason:


i just graduated hs

[MakotoS13]

guys, im gonna say it again.

eight cylinders is the way to go.

eff a tiggity turbiddyBO!

[TheSnail]

guys, im gonna say it again.

eight cylinders is the way to go.

eff a tiggity turbiddyBO!


Yes it is...

But you have four more till you get there. ;)

[blu808]

So LS1's don't blow up?

No infact no motors just blow up.


Motors blow up because.

Dumb noobs dont know what they are doing.

Installation incorrect.

Part failures due to unseen things.

beating the hell out of them and using them for what they are meant to do. (me)

[boosteds13]

I love people who say the CA is so old. Aside from the ECU's and the different materials making the block, what is old about it? The onboard sensors are nearly identical (in fact, you can use an SR ecu on a CA and vice versa through the use of an adapter harness or some tedious wiring). Let's see, the crank is forged with a main cap girdle. The rods are shot-peened from the factory. Oil squirters under the pistons- CHECK. It is argued the CA has one of the best head designs ever to leave the Nissan think-tank. Reason why it was replaced by the SR? Nissan needed a cheaper alternative. The CA was just too costly to produce.

And newer isn't always better. I can get all the equipment I need to tune my own EPROM for under $250. The old "Atari" 8-bit technology is good for something, right? Ever wonder why they still use pushrods in a lot of V8's even though a DOHC motor is more "modern"? ....because it works. (That and it saves a SHITLOAD of space under the hood ;) )

And to the thread starter, Ray @ Enjuku Racing here in Orlando had a CA18 in his S14. He was running a T60-1 and an SDS EMS in it as well. I would contact him if you have any S14 install specific questions.

And for those still calling it old, the CA was manufactured until 1994. Europe did not get the SR until the S14 model came out. EVERY S13 in Europe had the CA.

[MakotoS13]

And newer isn't always better. I can get all the equipment I need to tune my own EPROM for under $250. The old "Atari" 8-bit technology is good for something, right? Ever wonder why they still use pushrods in a lot of V8's even though a DOHC motor is more "modern"? ....because it works. (That and it saves a SHITLOAD of space under the hood ;) ).

i like how dinosaur pushrod V8's still smoke japanese V8's because of the KISS philosophy.

a GOOD design is a GOOD design... CA seems to be an alright motor its just that a 1.8L turbo can't make good torque on demand...


so screw that.

[raen419]

he already has suspension work done.
flta-2's, i believe tanabe ruca's, not sure what else.
he's doing it b/c it's a good idea.
if i were to buy a ca, though, it better be low miles or cheap and then i'd go for a rebuild.

people who say "no replacement for displacement" don't understand what they're saying.

[jjwilks240]

this thread has a whole lot of pussy in it.

for drifting
stock ka is easier than stock ca because of torque

with $1000 properly invested you can have a decent powerband plus who uses the 1-3k rpm range when drifting anyway.

i have a ca that cost me $1000canadian for the swap in total and that was with a clip.

sr clip canadian $3000 and up


you wont like the ca compared to the ka if you keep it stock.

it is Very hard to notice a 15-20hp difference

so it will feel simialy once the revs are up, but it doesnt move till 3g's so ur gona want ur ka back.


ill stick with my ca

[TheSnail]

this thread has a whole lot of pussy in it.

for drifting
stock ka is easier than stock ca because of torque

with $1000 properly invested you can have a decent powerband plus who uses the 1-3k rpm range when drifting anyway.

i have a ca that cost me $1000canadian for the swap in total and that was with a clip.

sr clip canadian $3000 and up


you wont like the ca compared to the ka if you keep it stock.

it is Very hard to notice a 15-20hp difference

so it will feel simialy once the revs are up, but it doesnt move till 3g's so ur gona want ur ka back.


ill stick with my ca


You my friend are an idiot. Not only have you failed, but you have failed miserably. Let me not rant and let me simplify to save my breath. 1. Not everyone’s into drifting. 2 as posted, one of my previous cars was a stock ca that dynoed 223tq to the wheels. Most sr's dont get that on there own tubo at 14psi, far aswell comparing it to a stock ka .

[Var]

I went for a ride today in an FD with an LS1 swap..the one that was in SCC. The guy did 1.13 G's around the skidpad and broke an SCC record. The car is freakin fast. weighs 2800 pounds with the v-8 in it. And it kicks ass.

Snail..my Sr made 215whp/214 torque with 10psi and running rich. I'm sure an SR that's in good condition can push better numbers than that with 14psi on a stock turbo.

[TheTicTac]

No infact no motors just blow up.


Motors blow up because.

Dumb noobs dont know what they are doing.

Installation incorrect.

Part failures due to unseen things.

beating the hell out of them and using them for what they are meant to do. (me)

My point exactly. Any motor will blow up if you don't know what you are doing. So to the thread starter, get whatever you want.

[TheSnail]

I went for a ride today in an FD with an LS1 swap..the one that was in SCC. The guy did 1.13 G's around the skidpad and broke an SCC record. The car is freakin fast. weighs 2800 pounds with the v-8 in it. And it kicks ass.

Snail..my Sr made 215whp/214 torque with 10psi and running rich. I'm sure an SR that's in good condition can push better numbers than that with 14psi on a stock turbo.


I believe you, believe me I am not bias, I currently own a sr. That ca at dyno day beat all the other 5 sr's, three of them where around the same boost. Which showed people there that the ca should not be under estimated. I think it's only downfall is that it came with a small ass turbo. Put a stock sr turbo on it and its more then competitive. I was proud of that little bastard, but it was one of the flipping cars, so it had to be sold. It changed my perspective on ca's though. Once again, Ca's should not be underestimated.

[chlatboy]

I believe you, believe me I am not bias, I currently own a sr. That ca at dyno day beat all the other 5 sr's, three of them where around the same boost. Which showed people there that the ca should not be under estimated. I think it's only downfall is that it came with a small ass turbo. Put a stock sr turbo on it and its more then competitive. I was proud of that little bastard, but it was one of the flipping cars, so it had to be sold. It changed my perspective on ca's though. Once again, Ca's should not be underestimated.

Plus the aftermarket support is not as high. Since the SR is made to be the showroom beauty, everyone has forgetten about the iron block CA18.

[Team Rootbeer]

the comment ab the good advice of going to racing school falling upon deaf ears bc i just graduated hs is very stereotyped.....just bc some younger people are not mature enough to handle a sports car, doesnt mean all of us are......my family has been in racing since i was born.....ive never had an accident that was my fault....dont street race like a dumbass, and am more than mature enough to handle a decent car!!!

but anyways....this isnt a battle of which motor is better thread i started to see what was involved in the swap as far as litttle shit thats diff from sr swaps and to see one in an s14....so anyone have any of that?

[sdtouge]

i got my motor for 700$. i have alot put into my car. probably more than most people here. if i wanted a sr20 i could have one. i wanted a motor that was able to take the abuse, i got it. if you dont liek it, blow me.

it is a known fact that the sr is the cheap alternatice to the ca18det for nissan. face it lol.


and that guy had stock rods stock crank...


there are people on nico who are doing lots with ca18s.... go check it out if your interested on finding out somje info on the ca18.
www.nicoclub.com

[infinitexsound]

why would you want to downgrade? blah blah blah blahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...

[that180guy]

i want a sr witha ca head :(
mmm...solid hydraulic lifters.....mmmm.....no rocker arms to fly off....mmm...
....i guess.....ill hafta work with what sr's got

if there was such thing as a ca20de, id be all over it. but the whole fact of having my motor smaller then a 2litre bottle of soda is....:ghey:

oh yeah, the whole point of having a engine, is to beat the shit outta it. nuff said'
drive it.
break it.
fix it.
repeat.
(repeat as manytimes needed to have fun)

[sLiDewAys]

i hate how everytime we try and point out the qualities from the ca, it turns into a ca vs. sr debate...


SR repalced CA due to COST... not that it was a better motor..... all of you who think u know the fact... or should i say taht those of you who repeat what youve heard on other forums can BLOW ME........ ca aftermarket support FOR ME hasnt been a problem and ive been able to find whatever i need w/o a sweat.... i guess the only way to prove the motor to all the lame heads is to bring it to the events.. well se eu at the events TORQUE HEADS.. lol who drifts at 3k anyway.. .. this thread needs to be CLOSED please...... can i get a couple hands on that request.


brandon

[sLiDewAys]

i want a sr witha ca head :(
mmm...solid hydraulic lifters.....mmmm.....no rocker arms to fly off....mmm...
....i guess.....ill hafta work with what sr's got

if there was such thing as a ca20de, id be all over it. but the whole fact of having my motor smaller then a 2litre bottle of soda is....:ghey:

oh yeah, the whole point of having a engine, is to beat the shit outta it. nuff said'
drive it.
break it.
fix it.
repeat.
(repeat as manytimes needed to have fun)


ca16de
ca18de
ca20de
ca18et
ca18e


they all exhist here. JUST NOT CA18DET:) thank you venus auto for providing me a 75 thousand mile motor which i can say proudly held 170 psi or above on all fours:)

[TheSnail]

Actualy its a ca20e. There is a guy in australia that makes the crank gear with the correct amount of teeth as the ca18 head. Then you get a custom extended ca18 timing belt, and that is where ca20det's come from.

[that180guy]

hrmm.....thats interesting
but isnt like, all of the aftermarket support for the ca geared torwards turbo?
and they made 2.0l ca's from the factory :eek: ??!!??
I WANT ONE!!!

that kinda...inspires me......ca20de.....


black guy brandon: wen u payin a trip to venus again? me and kenny wanna go up n check out front clips n stuff

[that180guy]

on a sidenote, people build old datsun l28's, 4ag's, and 13b's all the time, so fact of the ca being "old" should be irrelevant

[raen419]

ya know, there are way to many people speaking from what they've heard, over what they know.
the motor is a good idea. sr would be better, if he wanted the sr. spenc wants the ca, let him do it.

lock this shit.
half these people are stupid...and need to go to drifting.com

[sLiDewAys]

hrmm.....thats interesting
but isnt like, all of the aftermarket support for the ca geared torwards turbo?
and they made 2.0l ca's from the factory :eek: ??!!??
I WANT ONE!!!

that kinda...inspires me......ca20de.....


black guy brandon: wen u payin a trip to venus again? me and kenny wanna go up n check out front clips n stuff


lol i dont know, not until they get my damn aero bumper in stock.....just to tell you silly folk that venus offers fiberglass widebody front fenders with their front end SILVIA s13 sets and they do sell brand new FMIC cores:) last time i went they had a OEM s13 metal hood that was cut and welded as DROP VENT. really nice and they didnt charge extra for it. ron is a cool guy and only walks naked after hours HAHAHHAHAHA but this thread is about ca so lets either keep it ca or dump the topic.......www.venus-auto.com

brandon