photoshoot, requirements : 1)rwd 2)turbo

[thewhitewrx]

http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wOTQ3MzAyNnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg

http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wOTQ3MzAwNnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg

http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wOTQ3Mjk5NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg

http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wOTQ3Mjk4NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg

http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wOTQ3MzE5NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg

comments please, yes thats remote mounted turbo .

[ThatGuy]

Comments:

1)We have a thread specifically for Pictures. :D

2) The Turbo GTO is crazy. Why the remote mount? Is that next to the fuel tank? If so, HOLY-PRESSURE-DROP-BATMAN!, why even bother?

[Phlip]

*snip*
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wOTQ3MzE5NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg

comments please, yes thats remote mounted turbo .
My only comment is "WOW!!!"

[SilviaDriver]

http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wOTQ3MzE5NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg

comments please, yes thats remote mounted turbo .

my only comment is "why?"

[Phlip]

wait, now following the lead of the other individuals in this thread, I feel as if I must ALSO ask "why?"

[MakotoS13]

hey, why?????

[Var]

because you have 8 cylinders pushing air through 2 headers which mate into one pipe which goes to the turbo. I think the turbo lag would feel like a redtop pushing a t-28 and the turbo on the GTO is clearly a bigger turbo. I call full boost by 3-3.5k with 500+horsepower to the wheels. Less heatsoak in the engine bay and less clutter, probably a lot easier to install. Probably cheaper than getting turbo manifolds. I like it

[JDMark]

what all would be effected by having the hotpipe that long? and those must be some long oil lines! its a neat idea i geuss...

[thewhitewrx]

because you dont need an intercooler, its cheaper ( not needing a custom manifold) there is no boost lag difference in compariosn to a engine mounted turbo, stealth factor as in the cops dont notice it, ease of installation, cooler egt and oil temps around the turbo, oh yeah and its badass. mind you it spools the t67 way quick hahah the beauty of displacmnt i guess.

the only thing is the car is a pig at 3800lbs and isnt happy cornering. but its sure quick

[thewhitewrx]

because you have 8 cylinders pushing air through 2 headers which mate into one pipe which goes to the turbo. I think the turbo lag would feel like a redtop pushing a t-28 and the turbo on the GTO is clearly a bigger turbo. I call full boost by 3-3.5k with 500+horsepower to the wheels. Less heatsoak in the engine bay and less clutter, probably a lot easier to install. Probably cheaper than getting turbo manifolds. I like it

winn4r, ah its only at 5lbs of boost now, more like 400rwhp and 460lbs/tq.


but yoa you have the right idea,

[ThatGuy]

because you have 8 cylinders pushing air through 2 headers which mate into one pipe which goes to the turbo. I think the turbo lag would feel like a redtop pushing a t-28 and the turbo on the GTO is clearly a bigger turbo. I call full boost by 3-3.5k with 500+horsepower to the wheels. Less heatsoak in the engine bay and less clutter, probably a lot easier to install. Probably cheaper than getting turbo manifolds. I like it

You make valid points Var, but my questions still remain on Throttle Response and Pressure drop. There's got to be at least 8ft of intake piping there, and at least the same for the exhaust piping. I would think the spool up would extremely slow with all that piping, and boost levels wouldn't be nearly as high as they should be with that turbo. Not to mention, a hacksaw and 10-15 mins of cutting and somebody has a new turbo without ever popping his hood. I'm just not seeing enough positives. Maybe I'm just being pessimistic because it's so different.
:sadwavey:

*edit* Since you posted answers while I was typing/proofreading my above comments, I will add this: How is it stealth when I can clearly see the wastegate protuding beneath the vehicle in the first picture??

[m0rex]

How much boost can a ls1 handle on stock internals?

[Var]

winn4r, ah its only at 5lbs of boost now, more like 400rwhp and 460lbs/tq.


but yoa you have the right idea,


well considering that the engine has like 11:1 compression or something like that..you'd probably want the turbo lag and low boost so the VE of the engine would drop and free up some extra room for the boosted air at higher rpm. With 15psi and lower compression you're looking at big power.

[MakotoS13]

*edit* Since you posted answers while I was typing/proofreading my above comments, I will add this: How is it stealth when I can clearly see the wastegate protuding beneath the vehicle in the first picture??

pfft, try 30 seconds with a sawzall and i got me a fuggin snail.

[Var]

*edit* Since you posted answers while I was typing/proofreading my above comments, I will add this: How is it stealth when I can clearly see the wastegate protuding beneath the vehicle in the first picture??

I didnt say it was stealth, but whitewrx did.

What i said to PHLIP on Aim

It's probably not good enough for road race, but more than adequate for drift, drag race, high speed runs, or daily driving. The engine has 400 horses stock. And it's a v-8. If this was done to a 4 cylinder i would slap myself for agreeing with it. Nobody is saying it's the most efficient way to do things in terms of power. I dare anyone to say so. But it's so convenient . :)


He needs lower compression, shorter gears, higher boost, and tuning.

[West]

Remote turbos has been around for awhile. It makes since for V6, V8 engines because its about 1/3rd the cost of a real turbo setup. Although with its sacrifices. You will find people putting these on their cars are people who run Nitrous as one of their first and foremost mods. It wont make since to most of us as we are a different breed....

However, argue all you want about throttle response/turbo lag. It bitchslaps anything on the market $ vs HP gains.

Its just not going to fly for the serious turbo heads out there. Sadly we maybe make up 30% if best of the market, so the remote turbo should become a popular solution given it doesn’t get to much negative publicity from uneducated boostaholics.

[S14DB]

http://www.ststurbo.com/_04_pontiac_gto_turbo_system

[thewhitewrx]

You make valid points Var, but my questions still remain on Throttle Response and Pressure drop. There's got to be at least 8ft of intake piping there, and at least the same for the exhaust piping. I would think the spool up would extremely slow with all that piping, and boost levels wouldn't be nearly as high as they should be with that turbo. Not to mention, a hacksaw and 10-15 mins of cutting and somebody has a new turbo without ever popping his hood. I'm just not seeing enough positives. Maybe I'm just being pessimistic because it's so different.
:sadwavey:

*edit* Since you posted answers while I was typing/proofreading my above comments, I will add this: How is it stealth when I can clearly see the wastegate protuding beneath the vehicle in the first picture??


mind you this is not a 2.0L motor. its 5.7L and that on a normal engine with fmic you have like 6ft of piping anyhow. there are no problems with pressure drop. the "hardpipe" quickly pressurizes and there is quick throttle response.

as for the stealth factor how many cops or other people for that mattler look next to the muffler for a turbo and wastegate, and even if they did notice it they wouldnt know what it was.

the compression isnt 11:1 , i believe thats the LS2 6.0 motor. compression is a tad lower on the ls1 which is why it can be boosted and the ls2 cant. his engine is 350 hp stock anyways.

[HyperTek]

so where would the muffler be?? cat?? interesting.. I respect the gtos, austrailian v8 super car races are dope. I wonder how it sounds..

dam American engineering is alot different then japanese engineering as far as aftermarket turbos goes...

http://i.b5z.net/i/u/1473169/i/gtoturbo2_small.jpg

I can imagine that position not the best for that air filter... imagine getting that turbo really hot then splashing through some water.. I hope they got a good tech/customer service line.


I guess its made to be super easy bolt, and that the engine bay already looks like a bit*h to work in since its packed..

[sticky240]

looks nice.

hmm, me thinks aobut a remote turbo for my Titan :naughtyd:

[kandyflip445]

I thinks it's cool. I'm not asking why. Why would you have to ask why someone boosted? I want to know why you picked yellow..... :rofl:

[S14DB]

so where would the muffler be?? cat?? interesting.. I respect the gtos, austrailian v8 super car races are dope. I wonder how it sounds..
DL the videos from the link I provided. The turbo is the Muffler.

[hkspeed]

the s13 needs a front lip.
i have those same side skirts painted and waiting to on, but without a lip, its dont look right hehe.

[thewhitewrx]

I thinks it's cool. I'm not asking why. Why would you have to ask why someone boosted? I want to know why you picked yellow..... :rofl:
because yellow is the fastest color dumbass



I can imagine that position not the best for that air filter... imagine getting that turbo really hot then splashing through some water.. I hope they got a good tech/customer service line.


this can be a problem but we live in socal so it isnt

if you wanna know how it sounds, i would say its like a garbage bag being sucked through a massive vaccuum wthen the wastegate opens, then a massive howl

[kandyflip445]

because yellow is the fastest color dumbass

Then you're the dumbass for picking a white car, right? :fawkd:

[thewhitewrx]

haha i was kidding man, no hard feelings. i guess teh int4rw3b s4rc4sm f1lt3r is b0rked!!1

actually my car is graphite as seen in the pic above

[TheSnail]

That weird computer typing is confusing me. Are you saying the sil80 is yours, or a wrx with the same color?

[kandyflip445]

Yeah I was joking from the begining too. Hence the faces. Um...he wants a white wrx...but has a 240...yeah...snail go drink some beer and shoot your glock.

[thewhitewrx]

yes the sil40 is mine

this is my old wrx
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wNzI3NzA4NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg

[TheSnail]

Kandyflip, you must be 50% psychic, I am drinking beer, but the Glock is in my drawer. Not bad predictions at all.

[kandyflip445]

Call me cleo? lol

[TheSnail]

I was going to include that, but thought that was too much. You have not gotten to her level yet.

[mr_240sx]

i love the look of the wagon wrx's!!!

[SlowCoupe]

is it oil cooled? how do they get the oil to and from the turbo; what type of pump?

[Var]

http://www.ststurbo.com/home

this is the first place i heard about remote mount turbos a couple years back. friend's friend owns the company

[Var]

look at this pathetic display

http://i.b5z.net/i/u/1473169/f/Video/gto4.wmv

they have the nerve to call this drifting. Like a stock 400hp GTO can't do this without a turbo.

[S14DB]

http://www.ststurbo.com/_04_pontiac_gto_turbo_system

http://www.ststurbo.com/home

this is the first place i heard about remote mount turbos a couple years back. friend's friend owns the company
:repost: :newbie:

[Var]

haha..but i posted about how stupid they are.

[orion::S14]

I'm doing an open track event this weekend, and have been paired with a guy with a new GTO + STS setup...I'll get pics and impressions...will report back.

I think it's a neat idea...a lot of 'Silverado SS' guys (powered by what's basically an iron-block LS1, the LQ9) use this on their trucks, with good results, and BIG numbers.

- Brian

[raging panda]

also for the cali guys, they are trying to make these kits legal to add to any engine since it doesnt mess with the cat or any emissions devices. I thought that was pretty neato.

[S14DB]

also for the cali guys, they are trying to make these kits legal to add to any engine since it doesnt mess with the cat or any emissions devices. I thought that was pretty neato.You could prolly unbolt it, pass smog, then bolt it back up easy.

[thewhitewrx]

yes its oil cooled, there is a pump by the right rear wheel that returns the oil back to the engine

[S14DB]

yes its oil cooled, there is a pump by the right rear wheel that returns the oil back to the engine
thru the oil cap...
http://i.b5z.net/i/u/1473169/i/gtooil_small.JPG

[Phlip]

also for the cali guys, they are trying to make these kits legal to add to any engine since it doesnt mess with the cat or any emissions devices. I thought that was pretty neato.
I read on that site posted above a comment in reference to that, did you?

[raging panda]

no, this was discussed on some other forums before, one of the guys that works for whatever company that is was talking about kits they put on the GTO, an Integra, and a whole bunch of SUVs, it was brought up that they were trying to get it CARB approved because it doesnt mess with emissions stuff.

The other advantages/disadvantages were mostly brought up the same as here, lag because of long piping, oiling system, but then there is no muffler needed, underhood temp is lower, no custom manifold, no i/c needed because the hotpipe is so long, and also, they said that the lag isn't bad at all because they size the turbo to accomodate for the long piping somehow, i didnt really get it, i thought it would have all kinds of lag.