9/11 remembrance... drive with headlights on tomarrow!

[HyperTek]

If everyone could do this... we can see how strong internet pressance is.. I got email to do this.. so try it out..

[95Blue240sx]

i will support this idea

[Chernobyl]

someone explain how driving with your lights on will make any sort of difference....

not to be unpatriotic, but what's the point?

[SaintlyCharBoy]

heh, i do that anyway...
as do half of the cars around here

[HyperTek]

well i had got an email spread thru my work to show our support for the fallin lives from 9/11...

[old_s13]

my car doesnt have a wiring harness right now, i'll be at home working on that. maybe i'll light them up on the workbench.

[Shin_Kudo]

I'd do it, but I know that I'd end up leaving the headlights on and killing my battery...

[evilimport]

I think its a cool idea, of course,daylight running lights actually screw up the whole coolness of the idea.


But regardless, we should all never forget that day.

[TheSnail]

mmm??? no...

That will do nothing, help nothing. I dont belive in god or jesus or what ever, so I dont think that the people that have died will look down apon the people that drive with there lights on and say 'Ow, how nice". The Relitives of the dead would not know what going on, but just think some one has a car with all-time lights. I am not a penis wrinkle, but I see no point. Over 100 X's , let me repeat, Over 100X that many people die each year from smoking cigeretts, then the victoms of 911. So does that make people that smaoke cig's less importent then people that died from a terrorist attack? Shall we all buy a pack of cig's on some given day, throw all the cigs out of the pack, on the ground, then stomp on them? If some of you are so patriotic, why dont you run around on veterans day holding a US flag to celibrate the millions of deaths that occured in in WW2? Im mean, 1000 to 1,000,000+ is just a slight difference. Its cool that people are patriotic and care for the lives of others like myself, but being patiotic only to the things that is in hype is just being fake.

-Snail

[evilimport]

you cant compare smokers to the 9/11 victims, man. They arent even remotely close. I guess all those people in the towers just flew the planes into the buildings themselves?? wtf kind of comparison is that? People that smoke KNOW they can die from lots of different types of cancer -- they are addicted and refuse to "save themselves" from a potentially cancerous death. It sux that people die from smoking but its not like they arent doing to themselves....

[TheSnail]

you cant compare smokers to the 9/11 victims, man. They arent even remotely close. I guess all those people in the towers just flew the planes into the buildings themselves?? wtf kind of comparison is that? People that smoke KNOW they can die from lots of different types of cancer -- they are addicted and refuse to "save themselves" from a potentially cancerous death. It sux that people die from smoking but its not like they arent doing to themselves....


Well then how about the comparison of the people over seas that have died for a pointless war? and that death toll has surpassed 911?

-Snail

[evilimport]

We dont have 3000+ deaths in Iraq and Afganistan....and its not pointless.



besides this is getting off topic.

[TheSnail]

You have failed, and it is poinless, as well as the "Operation Kosovo" which accomplished nothing other then bombing the Chineese Embassy, which was bad... And that was the last you heard of "Operation Kosovo" on CNN. There should not exist a "World Police" at least thats what the rest of the world thinks.

-Snail

[TheSnail]

Its cool that the USA has more military power then any other nation on the face of the earth, but to use that to be the "world police" will cause only trouble, and even tho the USA has such power over other contry's, just a couple of cowards with box cutters caused so much destruction to the powerful country, makes you wonder why we are at more of a risk then a contry with 1/100th the military force.

-Snail

[evilimport]

You have failed
Doubtful...

on with the current topic...this isnt the time or place for a debate such as this....

besides Im tired....

[brianglawson]

Snail, you have some very liberal point of views,
i feel sorrow for the one families who have died, but, you also have to understand that america brought problems upon itelf, especially when bush came in and ruined everyones relations with us

[90RS13]

This is sad. In true Zilvia style, a thread about a way to show your love and support for the 9/11 victims, has turned into a gay argument. This forum has some of the best information about our cars, on the internet, but if it wasn't for that fact, I would never bother looking at it. People constantly want to argue, flame, and try to make themselves look better by trying to make others look stupid. It's just really sad to me.

I just have a couple comments

You have failed, and it is poinless, as well as the "Operation Kosovo" which accomplished nothing other then bombing the Chineese Embassy, which was bad... And that was the last you heard of "Operation Kosovo" on CNN.

The reason that was the "last you heard", is because the media only wants to focus on the bad things. We helped Kosovo more than you'll ever know. You don't see what we see. The fathers, mothers, daughters, and sons, crying uncontrollably because they finally are free to think on their own. Free to say what they want about their government. Finally being able to decide their leaders, and the direction of their nation. See, you can hate Bush. You can go tell all your neighbors that he's an idiot. Imagine if you couldn't. If telling anyone that you didn't like Bush would mean your head. You see the media, showing all the contingency groups saying the hate America. If you walk down the streets of cities in Iraq and Afganistan, the vast majority of their people will be thanking you for all America has done for them. That's what we see, and I'm sorry the media doesn't cover that.

i feel sorrow for the one families who have died, but, you also have to understand that america brought problems upon itelf, especially when bush came in and ruined everyones relations with us

America brought this on itself by being a free nation. The USA is a symbol to the rest of the world of what a democracy can be. That's why we're a target. The extremists don't like that. They have very strict morals and laws. America is a somewhat liberal nation, and that embodies everything that they are against. They want us dead because we don't follow their laws. Don't read to much into it. We did nothing to bring this on ourselves other than be free.

Matthew Aaron Wells
Comunication/Navigation Mission Systems Specialist
United States Air Force (and proud of it!)

[TheSnail]

The reason that was the "last you heard", is because the media only wants to focus on the bad things. We helped Kosovo more than you'll ever know. You don't see what we see. The fathers, mothers, daughters, and sons, crying uncontrollably because they finally are free to think on their own. Free to say what they want about their government. Finally being able to decide their leaders, and the direction of their nation. See, you can hate Bush. You can go tell all your neighbors that he's an idiot. Imagine if you couldn't. If telling anyone that you didn't like Bush would mean your head. You see the media, showing all the contingency groups saying the hate America. If you walk down the streets of cities in Iraq and Afganistan, the vast majority of their people will be thanking you for all America has done for them. That's what we see, and I'm sorry the media doesn't cover that.


I think I know more about those shoe shinners then you would want to know. I was born in Beograd Serbia. Aslo, they are not free, The bosnians, croats all are still being wiped out. It will not change. It was good for Serbia that Milosovich went out of power, but we did not cry for freedom. We had freedom before. He just sent our troups on missions against the bosnian people. Serbia has a much bigger military then Bosnia, So the Bosnians were being erased, And the USA did not like that. They said it was a action like the nazi's. With out Milsovich in power, did not change things to much. It did lessen the fighting tho, but its just like Iraq, Saddam is no longer in power, but yet US soldiers die every day over there.

-Snail

[mrmephistopheles]

This is sad. In true Internet style


fixed !

[90RS13]

just like Iraq, Saddam is no longer in power, but yet US soldiers die every day over there.

Change can't come over night. Things take time, and when dealing with Governments that have to basically be rebuilt from the ground up, it's a long time. Can you imagine what would've happened if we would've taken Saddam out, and left. There would've been chaos for a while, and then they would've ended up with a completely Bathist government again. We had to stay, help them build up and train police/guard forces, build an interim government, so that they could take control with orginazation.
With out Milsovich in power......It did lessen the fighting
And isn't that the point? To try and help everyone you can.
It will not change.
That's not how I think. I'm not going to argue this point to much, because I feel that would be rude, cause you're from Serbia. I just can't be satisfied with saying that it can't be fixed. I keep all hope for everyone.

I'll digress with a quote that I feel relates very well to America's postion in the world. It's from Spiderman, I think his grandma says it to him....
"with great power, comes great responsibility"
That's how I feel about our country. If you see someone on the side of the road in a busted S13, needing help, do you stop? I hope so. Well, to me America is you, and the busted S13 is the people of coutries in need. The Iraqis under an iron fisted Saddam. The Afgans under the terrorizing Taliban. Some people call it policing the world. I call it helping the world to the best of our ability. Some people join the military to protect and defend our great nation. I did it for those reasons and more... to protect and defend freedom and justice all over the world. Not just in my backyard, and I'll glady fly into any fight for anyone in need. It won't bother me if I'm on my death bed knowing I died fighting for another country's freedom. Just like I know that my friends that have died in Iraq, died knowing they were fighting for a greater cause. The cause of mankind.

[SilviaNinja240]

Snail you are from Beograd?!

I grew up over there! I'm glad to see some Serbs on the board :)

[MakotoS13]

mmm??? no...

That will do nothing, help nothing. I dont belive in god or jesus

actually, not believing that jesus existed is like saying napoleon was a fairy tale.

or what ever, so I dont think that the people that have died will look down apon the people that drive with there lights on and say 'Ow, how nice".

that isn't the point.

The Relitives of the dead would not know what going on, but just think some one has a car with all-time lights. I am not a penis wrinkle, but I see no point.

i've never seen pluto, doesn't make it any less real...



Over 100 X's , let me repeat, Over 100X that many people die each year from smoking cigeretts, then the victoms of 911. So does that make people that smaoke cig's less importent then people that died from a terrorist attack

yeah, if they chose to take that risk.

Shall we all buy a pack of cig's on some given day, throw all the cigs out of the pack, on the ground, then stomp on them?

ahem, littering....

If some of you are so patriotic, why dont you run around on veterans day holding a US flag to celibrate the millions of deaths that occured in in WW2? Im mean, 1000 to 1,000,000+ is just a slight difference. Its cool that people are patriotic and care for the lives of others like myself, but being patiotic only to the things that is in hype is just being fake.

-Snail

who said anything about being patriotic? i don't think the headlight thing is a big deal, i ain't doin it, but who cares if people do? its like cops wearing a black band around their shield to show respect for a fallen peer. are you saying that is a trivial act that has no real purpose thus should be forfeited?

quit being such a jackass dude... it really ain't that big of a deal.

[MakotoS13]

It's from Spiderman, I think his UNCLE says it to him....
"with great power, comes great responsibility"


*puts meph hat on*

FIXED!!!

[evilimport]

90RS13 and MakotoS13....

you guys have got it right. I agree 100%. :)

[MakotoS13]

of course... everyone knows peter parker's uncle said that.

psh, foo.

[SilviaDriver]

ill make it simple. stop fucking arguing. if you dont like the idea..dont fucken do it. simple.

[HyperTek]

I didnt even leave the house yet and daylight is almost over... hahah oh well

[ledzeppelin240]

It was a stupid idea to start with. First of all the guy who started this thread can’t even spell, so are you going to try something that’s being supported by him?

Second of all 9/11 was brought on by a selection of the population. So yes smoking cigarettes and 9/11 is related. American presidents have done a lot of wrong and just because a group retaliates everyone should now remember how 1000 people or so died.

WTF, do some research and try and to be patriotic with something else. Daytime running lights, hah hah hah…

[MakotoS13]

It was a stupid idea to start with. First of all the guy who started this thread can?t even spell, so are you going to try something that?s being supported by him?

well, genius, einstein never learned to tie his own shoes... are you implying that he's a dolt as well? still, this guy didn't invent the idea, you donkey raping butt pirate.


Second of all 9/11 was brought on by a selection of the population. So yes smoking cigarettes and 9/11 is related. American presidents have done a lot of wrong and just because a group retaliates everyone should now remember how 1000 people or so died.

i can link bacon to you making this completely mindless post but does that make it a direct connection? the answer your simple mind struggles for is "NO".

WTF, do some research and try and to be patriotic with something else. Daytime running lights, hah hah hah?

and you have the courtesy of letting us all know blatantly that you're both immature AND a completely retarded fool.

congrats, douche.

[tsunami0ne]

look guys, if the idea of turning on your headlights in remembrance of the victims of 9/11 sounds dumb (as it does to me) why don't you donate some money to help the family of the victims (does Red Cross still do this?) That sure is hell is much better than turning on headlights or waving around a flag. Otherwise if you dont care (i dont blame u if u do) then don't say anything.

[TheSnail]

Snail you are from Beograd?!

I grew up over there! I'm glad to see some Serbs on the board :)


Da, yesam srebin. Ya sam rojen ou Chachak, ali sam giveo ou beograd, cao ti. Tee ce moi burazer sada na ovi forum.

-Voya Vidakovic


Okay Makoto, what about second hand smokeing deaths. J/K . Enough with the arguing. (pointing to my self and a select few). The perfect answer is, and I quote tsunami0ne

look guys, if the idea of turning on your headlights in remembrance of the victims of 9/11 sounds dumb (as it does to me) why don't you donate some money to help the family of the victims (does Red Cross still do this?) That sure is hell is much better than turning on headlights or waving around a flag. Otherwise if you dont care (i dont blame u if u do) then don't say anything.

[mjjstang]

Second of all 9/11 was brought on by a selection of the population. So yes smoking cigarettes and 9/11 is related.



smoking cigs kill the people who smoke, not others clown, well besides like 1 per year of second hand, so I FAIL to see the relation.

[airsoft]

then everything we do is dumb...
saluting the flag
placing flag at half staff
black ribbon across a law enforcements badge
yellow ribbons for soldiers
soldiers placing Rifle, Tags, Boots
turning on ur headlights in rememberance

[brianglawson]

very nice snail, i cant beleive how people react on this forum sometimes, some people are more open minded than others, thats the way the ball spins, but calm debates always turn for the worse.... I to admit the headlight stuff is pretty stupid, the donations on the other hand is a great idea, but donations to everyone, think of the people in the middle east who have no homes or family thanks to our military, and also think of the people in our country who lost their fathers, mothers, sisters, and brothers

[smellslikecurry]

werd brian, i def agree, we get all heated up over little debates like this when there are bigger problems in this world, why not use the energy to do something positive. if putting your lights on all day is your tribute towards 911 then sure go for it, it doesnt really help but wutever, if thats the way you wanna remember the people that died that day then its up to you, if you think its stupid then dont do it, its that simple...do something else that will actually help instead of starting fights (im not directing this at anyone im jst making a general statement)

[MakotoS13]

very nice snail, i cant beleive how people react on this forum sometimes,

what? he just totally backtracked to save face cause his "facts" were based on dick.

i wasn't arguing. i was stating fact and my opinion. i see the notion of running around with lights on as insignificant and trivial so i dont do it but i'm not about to piss in the cheerios of somebody that does it EVEN IF i think they're just an emmotionally driven retard that wants something to feel crappy about.

just because you don't support something doesn't mean you can't see the reason behind it.

[evilimport]

^^ :werd: ^^

[brianglawson]

not pissing in cheerios im just expressing my opinion


chill out dude, its no biggie

[AAA240SX]

holy boogers, this thread is way off subject now. good idea hypertek - i did that yesterday...

[ledzeppelin240]

Everything is pretty pointless. If you have not reached this point of understanding you are the immature one. What is the human purpose, all we constantly do is fuck shit up. Politics all together is stupid. The Jamaicans have it so good. What’s makes more sense than the Rastafarian culture? Its all about the Arts and Music, they have such a strong belief in it, that is what ties them down. They don’t try to follow what one man says believing he knows best.

The government corrupts but without someone telling the majority of people what to do they are lost. So without the government it would be chaos. But if you know anything-even chaos has order. So would we completely destroy our selves like we are now, or would it be an eye opener of where we are heading in the future?

There needs to be some major reconstruction and I am sick of science dictating everything. The big bang theory goes absolutely nowhere when pinned up against beliefs. Where did these rocks come from that collided, they were not just there. So in the meantime I’m going to believe what I think is right and live my life that way not by someone else’s rules or ideas. Although ideas can always be considered…

In the meantime enjoy your life as a “patriotic idiot”…

[TheSnail]

[QUOTE=
There needs to be some major reconstruction and I am sick of science dictating everything. The big bang theory goes absolutely nowhere when pinned up against beliefs. Where did these rocks come from that collided, they were not just there. QUOTE]

Yet its easyer to understand how someone split the ocean in two, or how jesus turns water to wine, or make a blind man see again... On and on of these unbelivable stories... There is no god, or jesus, and to the people that do belive, I hope you would not make fun of a 12 year old that still belives in santa, Since that would be alot more belivable then a gost that floats above us and looks over us, and leads us in the right direction. Yet, in the newspaper, I read: Church bus crashes and kills 20. Or church struck by lightning and catches fire, or collapses. Anyways, since you wanted to talk about the non-sence of the big bang, I'll talk about the non-sence non-fiction book for the crazy, the bible.

[evilimport]

^ :loco:

I guess jesus is so hard to believe in considering our entire time is set up to his death and birth... (AD and BC)

[MakotoS13]

Yet its easyer to understand how someone split the ocean in two, or how jesus turns water to wine, or make a blind man see again... On and on of these unbelivable stories... There is no god, or jesus, and to the people that do belive, I hope you would not make fun of a 12 year old that still belives in santa,

you do realize that you're completely wrong right? i mean, at the very least you're wrong in assuming that JC never existed since there are plenty of roman and jewish archives calling you a liar.... right?

p.s. rastafarians dont care about anything but arts and music cause all they do is smoke weed and sit around (hows that for generalizations?). ever see a hardcore pothead? yeah, that's rasta. freaking enlightened? retarded is more like it.

[evilimport]

MakotoS13: Some people are too closed minded to understand the way things really are and were...

[SW20Racer]

OH MY GAAWWWD! 9/11 IS SO 3 DAYS AGO! wait till next year and revive this pointless drivel.

[ledzeppelin240]

Hah awesome, JC was real cause he did walk on earth as a human being. Idiot... I don't think that there is a superior being up there watching over us. Our earth has been created by something too far out of our understanding.

And the chuch busses and churches being destroyed and killing people has nothing to do with this. You are a fucking idiot. There is not a person up there trying to correct our every mistake otherwise the world would be perfect, no one would die till they wanted to and we would live in harmony doing what we as individuals wanted to.

We are running our course and the way it leads is up to us...

[mrmephistopheles]

this thread has run it's course.