Forged Performance messes up GTR

[enkei2k]

This is going Viral...Forged Performance very well known shop in the south. Only reason I'm posting this is because apparently it made it to reddit and probably only moments away from getting on Jalopnik

Forged Performance: The Truth ! - Vendor Reviews - GT-R Life (http://www.gtrlife.com/forums/topic/85083-forged-performance-the-truth/)

Here are the cliff notes for anyone who doesn’t want to read the entire detailed experience”

• 22 month project
• Over $250,000 spent at Forged Performance
• Countless lies and broken promises
• 300 whp below goal
• Engine failure before delivery
• Transmission failure shortly after delivery
• 2nd Engine failure upon teardown
• Hacked up turbo kit
• Overcharged for the performed work
• Horrible craftsmanship
• Shoddy work
• FP refused to compensate for the troubles or refund


PS edit - not my car at all LOL

[khai01]

get a good lawyer man.
It's. America

[khai01]

Get a good lawyer
U may get some back
They want to play ball

[S14kouki_10]

Thats not the op's car.

That totally sucks, just read the whole thread. As of lately I hate dealing with shops.

[dudermagee]

I'm guessing this is the car
Forged Performance: HKS GT800 Turbo Kit Install - 6speedonline.com Forums (http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/nissan-gtr/244151-forged-performance-hks-gt800-turbo-kit-install.html)

[dudermagee]

And its not the first time
Forged Performance - My Story - MY350Z.COM Forums (http://my350z.com/forum/forced-induction/483103-forged-performance-my-story.html)

[jamg]

I went through the whole thread.

sucks for that guy... $250k is a UGR lambo. AMS and Switzer packages are even less...

i see the owner of Forged once a month, at one of the early morning caffeine and octane meets.

he personally drives a 2013 GTR, that's FAST as FUK. i've never see a car pick up so much speed down the street.

[ShadowDrifter]

I have personally had work done at Forged I drove 18hrs to have work done and all but this shit is UNREAL Personally I would park my car outside there place and protest them and there shop till I got a FULL refound. Then protest to have them shut down. All I will say is pictures speek for themselves. I have people anymore they are all about in/out in/out. What happened to taking your time and some pride in your work. Fucking assholes I hope you get shut down. Oh ya you can tell hes lying too with the post he put up too.

[OrangeVirus1]

dude 250k$.. whoever owns that GTR went full retard.


250k$ could get you a car that would drop panties from miles away

[jamg]

dude 250k$.. whoever owns that GTR went full retard.


250k$ could get you a car that would drop panties from miles away
owner of the shop replied.

$250k over the span of a couple of years, and other car builds. not just on this GTR.

[OrangeVirus1]

owner of the shop replied.

$250k over the span of a couple of years, and other car builds. not just on this GTR.

ahh. well then what was the point of pointing out 250k?

[240KA]

does that "boxter" guy ever say what he does for a living? i didnt read the entire thread.

[801nismo104]

holy hell! what a nightmare

[jamg]

does that "boxter" guy ever say what he does for a living? i didnt read the entire thread.

no

obviously something good enough to where he's able to afford 100k cars and drop another 80k in modding them.

[SLiDe_WaYz]

If I spent 250K with a shop or company over the course of 2 years, whether it be on one car or multiple cars, and I'm missing another 30,000 in old parts. Someone is getting sued and I'm going after there entire business.

That thread would be plastered on every major modified car forum, id even try to get that shit posted on the news. A quarter mil is not a laughing matter. Not only is he out 250K, he has to pay a additional 50K+ to get the car where it should have been 2 years ago.

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[silnv]

WOW, just read through it. This is why I am always scared to let other people do work on my cars.

[OrangeVirus1]

What I don't get... is why the fuck it is so difficult for FP to "bolt" stuff on? I read that other story, the GTM kit on the G37..

How is it so fucking difficult to put a Kit on a car, that so much shit went wrong.
Are there workers blind folded? are they Monkeys?

I mean I have seen better work from a one armed man with no fingers.....

If it was my shop, and I was the owner, I would personally inspect each and every car before they are given back to their owners. it shouldn't take more than 30-45 minutes to inspect everything if you move diligently.

That shop disgusts me, I could do better work out of my garage with hand tools and a car jack.

[SLiDe_WaYz]

What I don't get... is why the fuck it is so difficult for FP to "bolt" stuff on? I read that other story, the GTM kit on the G37..

How is it so fucking difficult to put a Kit on a car, that so much shit went wrong.
Are there workers blind folded? are they Monkeys?

I mean I have seen better work from a one armed man with no fingers.....

If it was my shop, and I was the owner, I would personally inspect each and every car before they are given back to their owners. it shouldn't take more than 30-45 minutes to inspect everything if you move diligently.

That shop disgusts me, I could do better work out of my garage with hand tools and a car jack.

I mean I can see modification being needed on the JUN kit yes. But to put washers on bolts in order for things to clear, using $3 worm clamps in couplers that are even put on crooked, and then fucking up his entire drive train. I can weld better than that in my garage with my tiny little Lincoln welder.

The worm clamps is what gets me. He's spending more money at your shop than people make in a year and your using autozone clamps.

I'm almost certain any high end Japanese manufacturer at least sends you T bolt clamps or V Bands especially something like JUN. I know my inter cooler kit, along with a few other parts I had came with T bolts out the box. That just disturbs me. Then to charge the guy 10 man hours to modify his kit and all you did was throw on washers to space it out?

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[OrangeVirus1]

I mean I can see modification being needed on the JUN kit yes. But to put washers on bolts in order for things to clear, using $3 worm clamps in couplers that are even put on crooked, and then fucking up his entire drive train. I can weld better than that in my garage with my tiny little Lincoln welder.

The worm clamps is what gets me. He's spending more money at your shop than people make in a year and your using autozone clamps.

I'm almost certain any high end Japanese manufacturer at least sends you T bolt clamps or V Bands especially something like JUN. I know my inter cooler kit, along with a few other parts I had came with T bolts out the box. That just disturbs me. Then to charge the guy 10 man hours to modify his kit and all you did was throw on washers to space it out?

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no you are forgetting some stuff, the 10 hours are "justifyable" in Forge's eye's because there was some hammering of the exhaust required, a spacer in the exhaust put in, Hammering the downpipe, Oh grinding away the dudes steering column.. that's safe.

And It looks like the fuel "upgrade" was welding on bigger bungs at the end of the rail and nothing else. And it's a sad state in a shop's life when you can Honestly say Chinese ebay parts have better welds than that shit.

If you read the G37 build by forge, it's just as bad.

If it was my car, and the shop Chopped up my front bumper, and didn't even put in a tranny cooler, that is grounds for a lawsuit by itself. I'm sure that Front bumper is expensive as hell.

I read all pages on both hack-job builds, and all I can say is Forge needs to be permanently shut down, or moved to China.

[SLiDe_WaYz]

And Even after all that hacking and grinding the 02 sensor is sitting 5mm away from the driveshaft and his plugs are ziptied together. And then the sleeves in the block are all mismatched as fuck... how the hell can you not see that before assembling the motor!?

I really don't understand wtf that Sharif guy was/is thinking.

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[OrangeVirus1]

And Even after all that hacking and grinding the 02 sensor is sitting 5mm away from the driveshaft and his plugs are ziptied together. And then the sleeves in the block are all mismatched as fuck... how the hell can you not see that before assembling the motor!?

I really don't understand wtf that Sharif guy was/is thinking.

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Just read his replies, it's obvious that he doesn't do any of the work. He hires some random ass tech with probably 2 months experience working on lawn mower's, and when shit goes bad they get fired.

[Om1kron]

just finished reading the thread... they fucked up pretty bad.

[dudermagee]

does that "boxter" guy ever say what he does for a living? i didnt read the entire thread.

Somewheres in that thread they mention a pro football player. In the first 12 pages or so.

[stacksondeck]

Bury this fucking business.


They would have never found Sharif's body had that been my s13, much less a GTR.

[Gizmo_S13]

How stupid do you have to be to let someone lead you on for 22 months? That Guy is a idiot and I hope he learned a lesson. Build your own car.

[EvilRB]

wow, I could, do and have done better work than that and I still don't have the balls to charge for work like that...
He should be ashamed to even look the owner in the eye much less give him back the car that way...

[SimpleS14]

This is some shocking news to hear. I always thought FP was a legit company. I haven't read the full thread yet, but has to be some explanation behind this.

How stupid do you have to be to let someone lead you on for 22 months? That Guy is a idiot and I hope he learned a lesson. Build your own car.

Allegedly the guy is a pro footballer. There are a few of them that drop off cars at shops like this for months. Also wouldn't expect him to have the time or will to build it himself.

[exitspeed]

Wow those pics are hard to look at.

If you ever watch any of the videos out there made at Nissan about the incredible engineering and meticulous assembly that car goes through those pics are enough to make your skin crawl. Such a shame to destroy an amazing car that only a select number of Nissan employees are even allows to build or work on. And these fucking hacks get a hold of it. Ouch.

[xoxide]

That shop disgusts me, I could do better work out of my garage with hand tools and a car jack.
Is that so?

OrangeVirus1 Turbo 2.5 Build thread! - 2010-13 Mazda 3/Mazdaspeed 3 Forums (http://mazda3revolution.com/forums/2010-12-mazda-3-engine-performance/9697-orangevirus1-turbo-2-5-build-thread.html)

[jamg]

Somewheres in that thread they mention a pro football player. In the first 12 pages or so.

That was another guy, who had his car messed up by forged. his name is brandon.

[drscooper]

That was another guy, who had his car messed up by forged. his name is brandon.

many have been screwed by forged. a guys lotus and my friends supra

[powermymotor]

heheh 250k n got some leaky shiet..was that gtr stick shift coverted?

[SochBAT]

Is that so?

OrangeVirus1 Turbo 2.5 Build thread! - 2010-13 Mazda 3/Mazdaspeed 3 Forums (http://mazda3revolution.com/forums/2010-12-mazda-3-engine-performance/9697-orangevirus1-turbo-2-5-build-thread.html)

http://www.first-aid-product.com/images/M/M4038.jpg

I got this.

[EvilRB]

Is that so?

OrangeVirus1 Turbo 2.5 Build thread! - 2010-13 Mazda 3/Mazdaspeed 3 Forums (http://mazda3revolution.com/forums/2010-12-mazda-3-engine-performance/9697-orangevirus1-turbo-2-5-build-thread.html)


http://memecrunch.com/meme/ES1C/deep-burn/image.png

[K_style]

Is that so?

OrangeVirus1 Turbo 2.5 Build thread! - 2010-13 Mazda 3/Mazdaspeed 3 Forums (http://mazda3revolution.com/forums/2010-12-mazda-3-engine-performance/9697-orangevirus1-turbo-2-5-build-thread.html)


LOL... He is Banned from there?

[240KA]

Is that so?
OrangeVirus1 Turbo 2.5 Build thread! - 2010-13 Mazda 3/Mazdaspeed 3 Forums (http://mazda3revolution.com/forums/2010-12-mazda-3-engine-performance/9697-orangevirus1-turbo-2-5-build-thread.html)

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!

once a douche, always a douche. no matter what the platform.

i'd trust this car as much as id trust forged working on another GTR:
http://zilvia.net/f/cars-sale/517205-fs-92-s13-rb20-modded-hell.html

[TougeLove]

Why wouldn't you just ship your car to hks or ams? At those prices, whats an extra 10-15k to have it done right.

I have a feeling he wouldn't win in court. There is no standard for how a shop should perform the work. Whatever invoice or contract he signed for the work is only there to protect the shop from instances such as these.

more cash than sense.

for example,
My buddy had his F355 rebuilt with a twin turbo system, exhaust, etc. and he had a signed agreement with the shop detailing how everything would be performed and that anything that required custom fabrication would be ok'd through the shop manager and himself.

[OrangeVirus1]

lmao that build thread of mine is beyond old, most of the stuff I used was junk parts. thanks though. That was with literally junk that I had. I could show the new setup i built for my mazda that was clean, but not even gonna bother, I'll let you guys have fun with that old ass thread haha

Yeah I got banned from that forum for telling a mod ( a real asshole ) to suck a dick.

[OrangeVirus1]

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!

once a douche, always a douche. no matter what the platform.

i'd trust this car as much as id trust forged working on another GTR:
http://zilvia.net/f/cars-sale/517205-fs-92-s13-rb20-modded-hell.html

lol read my parts list

more than you can afford pal, Ferrari.

[word sux]

win or lose the lawsuit, forged is screwed. The internets be merciless.

[AFSil80]

From my understanding, all the technicians that basically made Forged a powerhouse years ago have BEEN gone.

There's always been shady stories about Sharif (I should trademark that phrase) about how he was banging his mechanic's girlfriends after he fired them, has dealerships do the servicing work/alignments because he can't get the GT-R specific equipment since he's not certified, etc.

Dude's a greedy, ego driven dirtbag. Goodfuckingriddance.

[DS562]

This should serve as inspiration to take the time and do things right, whether for your own car or somebody else's.

[silverarrow27]

More cash than brains. I actually don't feel very sorry for the guy. Should have put more time into researching this project than letting a shop owner/manager do it for you.

[powermymotor]

for reals eh.. expensive car letting shop manager run things.. meaning running into lies and problems ..

[zerodameaon]

Come on guys this is not about OVs 500hp beast mode RB20, this is about a real car that got really fucked.

[xoxide]

lmao that build thread of mine is beyond old, most of the stuff I used was junk parts. thanks though. That was with literally junk that I had. I could show the new setup i built for my mazda that was clean, but not even gonna bother, I'll let you guys have fun with that old ass thread haha

Yeah I got banned from that forum for telling a mod ( a real asshole ) to suck a dick.
I wasnt pointing out the shit parts you used... I was pointing out the use of zipties/duct tape you used to hold up your intercooler piping, etc. :hahano:

[OrangeVirus1]

I wasnt pointing out the shit parts you used... I was pointing out the use of zipties/duct tape you used to hold up your intercooler piping, etc. :hahano:

It was the only parts I had so Thanks again. and my budget was really small at the time. So thanks for your opinion on my build, now suck your own dick, seems like it's something you like to do, while telling yourself how awesome you are. You sleep well at night knowing how fucking awesome your car is?

Come on guys this is not about OVs 500hp beast mode RB20, this is about a real car that got really fucked.

This has nothing to do with my car and I'd like it if you kept it out of it. Get the fuck off my sack, You can do the same as Xoxomo, go suck your own dick while telling yourself how badass your car is. While you're at it dude, Take that expensive ass intercooler pipe you got and shove it deep up in that ass, feel the Quality of that pipe. Then route your turbo straight into your ass and boost yourself.

[tricky_ab]

Forged Performance has been messing up cars for AGES now. All of their major techs have long since left. And Sharif go to excuse is "well that person has been let go, so there's no need to worry". Seriously, search for all of their recent messes, and you'll find that running theme.

I feel bad for him because he's going to have to fight this out in court in order to recoup some of this costs back.

It's also strange that they are still a vender over there. The power of a dollar I guess.

[xoxide]

You sleep well at night knowing how fucking awesome your car is?
.
I do, but that is beside the point... We were talking about you tooting your own horn here telling everyone how much of a better car you could build. :fruit:

[OrangeVirus1]

I do, but that is beside the point... We were talking about you tooting your own horn here telling everyone how much of a better car you could build. :fruit:

I don't think I said I could of built a better car, I said I could of done a better job, as in not destroying the exhaust, and not completely forgetting to tighten stuff ( from the G37 thread )

now go whip out your 10 foot dick and start blowing yourself.

I wish my car was half as awesome as yours.. you're so cool man I love you. <3 Like literally love you <3 <3:wackit:

[OrangeVirus1]

I do, but that is beside the point... We were talking about you tooting your own horn here telling everyone how much of a better car you could build. :fruit:

Quoting this again to let you know how much I love you, and I don't think I could live without your posts. thanks:wackit:

[drscooper]

Quoting this again to let you know how much I love you, and I don't think I could live without your posts. thanks:wackit:

SHUT THE FUCK UP all you do is fucking complain and bitch your rb20 sucks balls your mazda fucking sucks so get the fuck out and suck your own dick:madfawk::goyou:

[!Zar!]

People with rb20's qualify for welfare. Fact.

[zerodameaon]

This has nothing to do with my car and I'd like it if you kept it out of it. Get the fuck off my sack, You can do the same as Xoxomo, go suck your own dick while telling yourself how badass your car is. While you're at it dude, Take that expensive ass intercooler pipe you got and shove it deep up in that ass, feel the Quality of that pipe. Then route your turbo straight into your ass and boost yourself.

Hey buddy, I said this has nothing to do with your car, so ^ is pretty much what I said, so not sure why all this talk of things being in places that they aren't.

Back on topic of the GTR, the shop owner trying to make it sound like its alright they fucked up the GTR because he did not spend 250k on that alone. A friend of mine had something similar (on a much smaller scale) with a shop out here in California. After the third such case their business license was revoked.

[imotion s14]

a fool and his money...

[!Zar!]

Simple a trusting individual led on by a man with poor business ethic.

It does seem he's getting his money back.

[ShadowDrifter]

wow how the fuck did all this happen this was about a shop fuckin up now its about so dickbag and a POS rb20 hell the fuckin sr makes more power and if your gonna go RB go RB26 or SHUT THE FUCK UP AND GO FUCK YOURSELF WITH A RAZOR LACED DILDO

[AFSil80]

Forged Performance has been messing up cars for AGES now. All of their major techs have long since left. And Sharif go to excuse is "well that person has been let go, so there's no need to worry". Seriously, search for all of their recent messes, and you'll find that running theme.

I feel bad for him because he's going to have to fight this out in court in order to recoup some of this costs back.

It's also strange that they are still a vender over there. The power of a dollar I guess.

Somebody else has been paying attention since the G37 sedan hackjob...

I've got several friends that quit going to his shop once he kept charging the same exorbitant labor costs when all his good techs left. Those friends saw firsthand that the quality was lacking, and it's amazing how their attitude changed when they took a step back and realized how he (Sharif) acts towards people.

[OrangeVirus1]

SHUT THE FUCK UP all you do is fucking complain and bitch your rb20 sucks balls your mazda fucking sucks so get the fuck out and suck your own dick:madfawk::goyou:

DO YOU EVEN LIFT, BRO?

wow how the fuck did all this happen this was about a shop fuckin up now its about so dickbag and a POS rb20 hell the fuckin sr makes more power and if your gonna go RB go RB26 or SHUT THE FUCK UP AND GO FUCK YOURSELF WITH A RAZOR LACED DILDO

Thanks, I really appreciate the comment. razor, dildo, got it will do!:wackit:
I know the SR makes more power, it's an unbelievably godly engine.. I mean I have seen a stock SR take down lambo's.. ferrari's.. God I wish I could get one.
but again thanks for the great, intellectual comment.

People with rb20's qualify for welfare. Fact.

100% completely accurate statistical fact. I'm on welfare, government housing, food stamps, free bus tickets, free gov cell phone etc.

[EsChassisLove]

All of you off topic fucks need to shut the hell up.


Anyways, sounds like another really good shop is being run into the ground by its owner.

People build up these reputations then shit on them. I don't get how. Like Ken at Peakboost. Dude had a shit hot amazing product then threw it all away.

[AFSil80]

All of you off topic fucks need to shut the hell up.


Anyways, sounds like another really good shop is being run into the ground by its owner.

People build up these reputations then shit on them. I don't get how. Like Ken at Peakboost. Dude had a shit hot amazing product then threw it all away.

The problem with Sharif (from my experience) is that his first impression does one of two things. Rubs people the wrong way, or convinces them to give him their money. A very good friend of mine did business with him on a regular basis (where Sharif was the customer) and even he admitted that he didn't like dealing with him. For the record, I don't normally get vocal on topics like this unless I know for a fact how the person is.

I'm friends with past employees from there, past customers, etc. It tells a story without speaking words when previous employees clam up when the topic is broached and past customers say they'll never go back. Atlanta is a hot spot for performance shops...there are no shortages, so it can be quite cutthroat, which explains why Sharif has habitually taken jabs at his rivals (at dyno days, track days, etc) and his claims have come back to bite him several times. I'm not saying that everyone but Forged is perfect, but I will say that I've been around a lot of those guys in Atlanta and I can tell you who has a better attitude towards the community as a whole, and it's not Sharif.

[ilikeboost]

I think I'm going to puke. Reading both of those accounts makes me sick to my stomach. Whatever happened to pride in your work? I know I'm only 20. But if I work on something, say repair a guitar or fix someone's car. I'm going to do everything I can to make it perfect. If it happens that I can't do what needs to be done. Then I'm going to tell the person I can't do it. It is as simple as that. No matter what amount of money you have a chance of making. If you can't do it right, then don't do it from the start.

Excuse me. I'm going to go puke and hack up a lung.

[georgegto]

250k!!
He could have easily bough an earlys 2000's F1 car!

[HyperTek]

250k!!
He could have easily bough an earlys 2000's F1 car!

i agree :yum:
this is a pretty cool thread, some guy buys a honda ra107 and pieces it back together
New member - Bought an RA107 - Forum - F1technical.net (http://www.f1technical.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9325)

and this
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2313422/Formula-One-fan-builds-scale-racing-car-shed-using-100-000-parts-bought-just-8-000-needs-engine.html

[exitspeed]

250k!!
He could have easily bough an earlys 2000's F1 car!

Um, yeah F1 cars are cool, but you gonna drive that bitch to the grocery store or to dinner?

You can buy a lotta things for $250k but an F1 car is not a replacement for a GTR. That's like saying "Dude should have bought a plane" or "200 ATV's". lol

[SimpleS14]

For 250K he could have bought a used Gallardo and swap in a Heffner TT kit...but that's beside the point.

Anyways, just read the whole thread. Looks like the guy is going to get a refund and his old parts, assuming everything works out by the proposed deadline.

[AFSil80]

The story has made it to Jalopnik...

[zombiewolf513]

Shit, I've seen more professional work done to noob missle cars by absolute beginners. haha those clamps!

[georgegto]

Um, yeah F1 cars are cool, but you gonna drive that bitch to the grocery store or to dinner?

You can buy a lotta things for $250k but an F1 car is not a replacement for a GTR. That's like saying "Dude should have bought a plane" or "200 ATV's". lol

If u are willing to spend 250k to build a car for track proposes why not buy an F1 or an indy 500 for the ultimate experience? Guess the guy had a second car to drive at the grocery store:p

[SimpleS14]

The story has made it to Jalopnik...

Some of the comments make me laugh.

[1KhpWrx]

oh my. Lucky the guy from forged is still alive...

[240gtsX]

Wow this is messed up. Reminds me of my experience with "Sideways Performance" even till this day.

[Gnnr]

Shame. There are still reputable shops around in the US that do high end/premium work. Sad the owner got screwed over like this.

[TougeLove]

lol @ their yelp review.