94 production date s14

[orion]

so i've got an s14 zenki that has the production date of 94, i noticed that a few parts like the tie rod and control arm stuff is s13 stuff rather than normal s14, and i was wondering if my springs/coils would also be s13, or should i shop for s14?

also fun fact, although it's a 94 production date it has obd2 ._.

[KendallH]

dafuq did I just read

[orion]

dafuq did I just read

i have a zenki s14
the production date on it is in the year 94 so therefor it has some s13 parts where s14 parts would be (like the control arm and tie rod for example)
I need to know if i should buy s13, or s14 coilovers.

[Huntsman2007]

What you did there^ I see it

[orion]

What you did there^ I see it

what did i do? ._. does anyone know the answer to my question?

[brewster240]

if it has s13 control arms, tie rods, etc, someone swapped them in.

[240zach]

lolol i get it

[EDacIouSX]

what did i do? ._. does anyone know the answer to my question?

you just contradicted yourself. you have an s14 that has s13 parts from the factory. S14s did not come with s13 parts... they look very similar and some parts are, i believe, identical. The outer tie rods are the same but the inner's are different, I beleive s14 inner tie rods are longer.

If you truly have s13 suspension then someone swapped it in. I have a may of 94 s14, production number ~8000 and it's 100% s14..... there's a cut off date for OBD2, I'm not sure what that day is but I believe mine is OBD2. Supposedly 3C ecu's are OBD2 and I had a 3C ecu.

[orion]

you just contradicted yourself. you have an s14 that has s13 parts from the factory. S14s did not come with s13 parts... they look very similar and some parts are, i believe, identical. The outer tie rods are the same but the inner's are different, I beleive s14 inner tie rods are longer.

If you truly have s13 suspension then someone swapped it in. I have a may of 94 s14, production number ~8000 and it's 100% s14..... there's a cut off date for OBD2, I'm not sure what that day is but I believe mine is OBD2. Supposedly 3C ecu's are OBD2 and I had a 3C ecu.

nah the outers are a bit bigger, I found that out when i had to go and replace a tie rod inner, and i ordered an s14 part and it didn't work. also the control arms are both s13, and i'm PRETTY sure they had come with the car because the person who owned the car before me wouldn't have swapped them out.

[skysilvias13]

nah the outers are a bit bigger, I found that out when i had to go and replace a tie rod inner, and i ordered an s14 part and it didn't work. also the control arms are both s13, and i'm PRETTY sure they had come with the car because the person who owned the car before me wouldn't have swapped them out.

Are you new to the whole 240sx thing because if your not by now you'd be able to understand everyone and their mommas momma may have touched your 240sx. I had a 95 that had ford stuff on it before. I wouldn't be surprised if someone or a shop that claimed to be professionals molested your 240sx.

[KendallH]

so i've got a 4th gen camaro that has the production date of 94, i noticed that a few parts like the tie rod and control arm stuff is mustang stuff rather than normal camaro, and i was wondering if my springs/coils would also be mustang, or should i shop for camaro?

also fun fact, although it's a 94 production date it has obd2 ._.

[240zach]

just like the 2013 cars are already here...a 95 s14 came out in mid 94..

[dluevanos01]

so i've got an s14 zenki that has the production date of 94, i noticed that a few parts like the tie rod and control arm stuff is s13 stuff rather than normal s14, and i was wondering if my springs/coils would also be s13, or should i shop for s14?

also fun fact, although it's a 94 production date it has obd2 ._.

WUUT!!!

so i've got a 4th gen camaro that has the production date of 94, i noticed that a few parts like the tie rod and control arm stuff is mustang stuff rather than normal camaro, and i was wondering if my springs/coils would also be mustang, or should i shop for camaro?

also fun fact, although it's a 94 production date it has obd2 ._.

Oh I get it! ahaha


OP you should be using S14 stuff!!! unless you know or have researched that they are the same between s13 and s14.

[240zach]

and the only real difference between the 2 control arms is the s14 arm is 10mm longer. the previous owner was probably a dumbass and overlooked it and just put 2 s13 arms on there

[brewster240]

The outer tie rods are the same

no they arent.

and the only real difference between the 2 control arms is the s14 arm is 10mm longer. the previous owner was probably a dumbass and overlooked it and just put 2 s13 arms on there

no, because the ball joints are different, so unless he rigged it together, that means it has s13 front knuckles too!

[FRpilot]

I have a may of 94 s14, production number ~8000 and it's 100% s14..... there's a cut off date for OBD2, I'm not sure what that day is but I believe mine is OBD2. Supposedly 3C ecu's are OBD2 and I had a 3C ecu.

Earliest s14 production date I've seen is 3/94.

I thought obd2 came on second half of 95 production date and I think i even read that rdm russ said all 95 240sx were obd1 regardless of production date (don't quote me on that). Odd that you think your may 94 production date s14 is obd2. Are you sure?

[EDacIouSX]

Earliest s14 production date I've seen is 3/94.

I thought obd2 came on second half of 95 production date and I think i even read that rdm russ said all 95 240sx were obd1 regardless of production date (don't quote me on that). Odd that you think your may 94 production date s14 is obd2. Are you sure?

i'm not sure. jim wolf says it's obd2, i always thought it was obd1.






If you're so sure it's S13 parts. take a picture of it and show us.

[killer240]

i have a zenki s14
I need to know if i should buy s13, or s14 coilovers.

that should work.

[1on1]

Just to clarify about OBD1 and OBD2 zenki's:

If you have a 95 240sx, it will be smogged as OBD1 regardless what anyone says. However, this is the year when Nissan started to convert to OBD2 so owners to have a 3C/3D, it's a hybrid harness and classified as OBD2 but are being smogged as OBD1.

My production date is 7/95 (or 6/95, I forgot) and it's classified as OBD1.

[yomisiu]

i took my "94" zenki to a shop to check out the engine light. confusion ensued.
they were sure it was OBD1 but turned out to be OBD2. and thats my cool story.

[Piggy]

._. ._. ._.

[FRpilot]

i'm not sure. jim wolf says it's obd2, i always thought it was obd1.

If you're so sure it's S13 parts. take a picture of it and show us.

I was strictly talking about obd1 and obd2 and production dates for smog purposes because I'm interested in that myself.

If you are talking about parts interchangability, you are right that op has s14 parts. Maybe some of the things that are same between s13 and s14 like 4 lug hubs and oem steelies use the same partake with different part numbers, but things that are obviously different like rear struts and tie rods are s14 specific.

[Karlitos]

I have a 6/94 S14 and it gives OBD 2 codes via the nissan plug in the fuse box. It gives OBD 2 codes and acts like OBD 2. The OBD2 plug on the passenger side of the center console does not work. It has all other OBD2 stuff, but IIRC it smogged like OBD1.

And for your suspension make sure you measure things out before making assumptions. The correct lengths of stuff is out there (search) and double check to make sure it really is s13, id be surprised and it probably is s14 stuff.

[godsmack]

The only difference for coilovers for the front are that where the strut/coilover mounts to the knuckle the S14 has bigger bolts than the S13. Other than that they are identical. You can use S13 fronts if you drill the holes on the coilovers or put bushings in the knuckle.

[C. Anderson]

If you had s13 flca you would have serious positive camber.

[Bushido]

this thread sucks!

[brndck]

s13 tie rods are not the same as s14. 14 are larger diameter. you cannot mix and match.
s13 lca are not the same as s14. 14 are 10mm longer, and the balljoint is different. you CAN press an s13 ball joint into an s14 arm, or vice versa, but what ever spindle/knuckle you run must match the ball joint you use.

if your s14 has s13 parts on it, someone fucked up.

[Infamax]

Just to clarify about OBD1 and OBD2 zenki's:

If you have a 95 240sx, it will be smogged as OBD1 regardless what anyone says. However, this is the year when Nissan started to convert to OBD2 so owners to have a 3C/3D, it's a hybrid harness and classified as OBD2 but are being smogged as OBD1.

My production date is 7/95 (or 6/95, I forgot) and it's classified as OBD1.

This is true.

[EDacIouSX]

Just to clarify about OBD1 and OBD2 zenki's:

If you have a 95 240sx, it will be smogged as OBD1 regardless what anyone says. However, this is the year when Nissan started to convert to OBD2 so owners to have a 3C/3D, it's a hybrid harness and classified as OBD2 but are being smogged as OBD1.

My production date is 7/95 (or 6/95, I forgot) and it's classified as OBD1.

ok cool, I didn't know that. That would explain why jim wolf says it's obd2. Yes, my 94 s14 has always smogged as OBD1.

[todd5854]

Fun fact of cars produced for the USDM market:

a production date of 7/94 indicates it's for the 1995 model year. Both of the '94 convertible s13's I've had were produced in 7/93 and 8/93, respectively. Certain companies use 6/94 for 1995 model year (Such as Nissan)

I remember reading somewhere a few times that the first two years of the S14 used many s13 parts, and apparently some were still 4 lug. Buy the parts for your 95 S14, they will be designed to fit that car.

[Devens240]

us all non se s14 are 4 lug...

[240zach]

pics or gtfo go buy an s14 lca and compare it with yours..if yours is shorter...id seriously take a day to inspect all suspension components on your car. cause if someone was cheap enough to fuck that up, who knows what kind of other jerry rigged shit is under your car.

[MedHat240sx]

Take some pictures ffs

[orion]

Earliest s14 production date I've seen is 3/94.

I thought obd2 came on second half of 95 production date and I think i even read that rdm russ said all 95 240sx were obd1 regardless of production date (don't quote me on that). Odd that you think your may 94 production date s14 is obd2. Are you sure?

the sticker under the hood says its obd2, but it still gets tested as obd1 because it's <96

[orion]

posting pics soon

[orion]

47797
zenki
47796
production date
47798
control arm picture
47794
obd-2
47795
in case you're blind

[!Zar!]

The 4 lug s14's are base models.

Only s14 SE's came 5 lug.

I'm sure if OP looks at the production date on his parents car, it would say a year prior to what it is listed as.

I don't see why this is all so confusing for people.

[holemilk00]

Oh my GOD, My room mate had a 98 that was 4 lug, it must have been a S14.3 This is ground shaking news!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can't believe the level of stupidity in this thread. Seriously go back to hondas.

Oh and BTW the reason your car is ODBII and still an early 95 model (build date early 94) is because its a Cali legal car genius.


Holy shit I must be descended from Sherlock Holmes.

[shaggy sr]

s13/s13 front strut/coilover are the same. but rear ones are different.

[blueshark123]

From the pics u provided orion, it shows a new tension rod was probably replaced. Since those studs look very clean. Im not sure what lca that is from the pics

[racepar1]

How exactly do you know that any of the parts are S13? To the naked eye they all look pretty much the same. If you're buying coilovers they HAVE to be S14 for an S14. The S14's have longer rear shocks and S13 model coilovers won't even come close to fitting. Also, OBD2 did NOT start untill late in the '95 production, regardless of what the JWT website says. ALL 96+ cars are OBD2...


EDIT: I just saw your pics and there is NOTHING S13 there. I can see the larger knuckle to shock bolts from the S14. The rest of the parts look to have been replaced with aftermarket stuff, which won't look the same as OE...

[orion]

How exactly do you know that any of the parts are S13? To the naked eye they all look pretty much the same. If you're buying coilovers they HAVE to be S14 for an S14. The S14's have longer rear shocks and S13 model coilovers won't even come close to fitting. Also, OBD2 did NOT start untill late in the '95 production, regardless of what the JWT website says. ALL 96+ cars are OBD2...


EDIT: I just saw your pics and there is NOTHING S13 there. I can see the larger knuckle to shock bolts from the S14. The rest of the parts look to have been replaced with aftermarket stuff, which won't look the same as OE...

the control arm, and linkage for sway bar, tie rod inner and outer are all s13 as i replaced those myself.

[KOUKIboy]

OP your S14 is a mutt!!!! Go ahead buy S14 coils and replace all that S13 BS w aftermarket S14 stuff and done!!!!

[1on1]

so i've got an s14 zenki that has the production date of 94, i noticed that a few parts like the tie rod and control arm stuff is s13 stuff rather than normal s14, and i was wondering if my springs/coils would also be s13, or should i shop for s14?

also fun fact, although it's a 94 production date it has obd2 ._.

the control arm, and linkage for sway bar, tie rod inner and outer are all s13 as i replaced those myself.

WTF??????

OP your S14 is a mutt!!!! Go ahead buy S14 coils and replace all that S13 BS w aftermarket S14 stuff and done!!!!

This^

First off, you should have replaced them with s14 parts, not s13, especially for stock parts.

S14 coilovers is a must. If you want to buy "used" coilovers and want to piece them together (I don't know why you would) then you can run s13 front coilovers and purchase s14 rear coilovers.

Cliff:
- get rid of s13 parts and replace with s14 (if stock)
- buy s14 coilovers.

[KendallH]

the control arm, and linkage for sway bar, tie rod inner and outer are all s13 as i replaced those myself.

What the fuck was the point of this thread then??????!!!!

[racepar1]

the control arm, and linkage for sway bar, tie rod inner and outer are all s13 as i replaced those myself.

You installed the wrong parts then. There is NOTHING S13 about your S14, except the wrong crap that you put on it. If your control arms are S13 then your balljoints don't fit properly, which is dangerous. You've got thinner inner tie ros ends, which shouldn't be on there.

:wtf:

[iVanRoz]

This whole thread is a mindfuck.

[KOUKIboy]

I swear people on Zilvia never stop to amaze me!!!! ROTFL!!!!

[jr_ss]

This guy is a tard, plain and simple.

Cali, I do believe you just one up'd Florida with that guy...

[rob22]

This guy is a tard, plain and simple.

Cali, I do believe you just one up'd Florida with that guy...

Cali fails -1

Florida fails- I lost count along time ago...

[holemilk00]

Cali fails -1

Florida fails- I lost count along time ago...

Did we reset the score a few years ago when florida began to fail? Because as long as I've been into s-chassis most of the facepalm post have come from Cali.

[PeaceOnesxWai]

If its a S14 shell.. then you buy a S14 coilover. Simple.. Doesnt take till page 2 to solve this.

What the hell are you all talking about saying the suspension arms and such.. the rear tower is way longer then a S13 and even if he had a S13 front knuckle.. the S14 coil fits vice versa.

[Frank_Jaeger]

Did we reset the score a few years ago when florida began to fail? Because as long as I've been into s-chassis most of the facepalm post have come from Cali.

I think we should start a California vs Florida thread.

[jr_ss]

I think we should start a California vs Florida thread.

Dear god let the hilarity insue...

[PeaceOnesxWai]

http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww239/jojomoatjo/funnies/bringit.gif

[iVanRoz]

Do it!!!
Start with the s14 from Florida with the r33 front b

[EDacIouSX]

Also, OBD2 did NOT start untill late in the '95 production, regardless of what the JWT website says. ALL 96+ cars are OBD2...


Afaik no one was debating that 96+ is/was obd2. the discussion was about 94-95 s14s and if they are obd2 or obd1. JWT says my 3/94 s14 is a OBD (3C Ecu) and as far as I can tell it looks like OBD2 to me since I have all the obd ports.



This guy is a tard, plain and simple.

Cali, I do believe you just one up'd Florida with that guy...

i bet you anything this guy is a south of the boarder transplant... he probably had trouble getting through LA Unified school district, the worst school district in the nation.

[waitejasoe]

I wouldn't be surprised if someone or a shop that claimed to be professionals molested your 240sx.http://www.odauto.com/song9-4.jpghttp://www.wengmj.com/a125.jpghttp://www.odauto.com/15.jpghttp://www.odauto.com/16.jpghttp://www.odauto.com/17.jpghttp://www.hgniw.info/uk.jpg

[KendallH]

I think we should start a California vs Florida thread.

We win because of smog and earthquakes.

[zerodameaon]

Did we reset the score a few years ago when florida began to fail? Because as long as I've been into s-chassis most of the facepalm post have come from Cali.

Where have you been hiding the last year? The fail that has come out of FL has topped Cali in quantity ten fold, though quality is debatable.

[racepar1]

Afaik no one was debating that 96+ is/was obd2. the discussion was about 94-95 s14s and if they are obd2 or obd1. JWT says my 3/94 s14 is a OBD (3C Ecu) and as far as I can tell it looks like OBD2 to me since I have all the obd ports.

It has the OBD2 port but they don't have the fuel tank pressure monitoring. It is not full OBD2, it's more like OBD 1.5.

We win because of smog and earthquakes.

Cali wins because of HURRICANES. We get an earthquake once every decade or so. You get hurricanes on the regular. Not to mention RIDICULOUS humidity, retirement communities, and swamps...

[kojiki88]

http://youtu.be/VRSmAVBFs6w

[holemilk00]

Where have you been hiding the last year? The fail that has come out of FL has topped Cali in quantity ten fold, though quality is debatable.

Read what I said again. Slowly.


It has the OBD2 port but they don't have the fuel tank pressure monitoring. It is not full OBD2, it's more like OBD 1.5.



Cali wins because of HURRICANES. We get an earthquake once every decade or so. You get hurricanes on the regular. Not to mention RIDICULOUS humidity, retirement communities, and swamps...
The humidity isn't bad in the right area. I moved here a year ago, and growing up in North Carolina and going to grad school in Michigan I can tell you summers are way more humid in both of those areas of the country. Also, we haven't had a real hurricane since 2006.

[240zach]

i seriously cant handle how stupid this guy is...

[240zach]

so i've got an s14 zenki that has the production date of 94, i noticed that a few parts like the tie rod and control arm stuff is s13 stuff rather than normal s14, and i was wondering if my springs/coils would also be s13, or should i shop for s14?

also fun fact, although it's a 94 production date it has obd2 ._.

i have a zenki s14
the production date on it is in the year 94 so therefor it has some s13 parts where s14 parts would be (like the control arm and tie rod for example)
I need to know if i should buy s13, or s14 coilovers.

the control arm, and linkage for sway bar, tie rod inner and outer are all s13 as i replaced those myself.


did you really try and make people who look at this shit everyday believe that your s14 came stock with s13 parts just because your a dumbass and put s13 parts in? ya did didnt you..:picardfp:

[racepar1]

The humidity isn't bad in the right area. I moved here a year ago, and growing up in North Carolina and going to grad school in Michigan I can tell you summers are way more humid in both of those areas of the country. Also, we haven't had a real hurricane since 2006.

We haven't had a real earthquake since 1994... (crossing my fingers and toes + knocking on every piece of wood I can find)

I'm not saying that there aren't WORSE places than Florida.

[zooopreme]

Thread has been derailed badly, lol.

With that said, I'm going to have to side with FL a little bit because NorCal is going through a phase where it's cool to drive a piece of shit with fucked up aero and ebay parts because "it's a missile" when about 1 out of 65 owners actually track their cars. In SoCal, it's almost the same but it's frowned upon unless you're from some Hispanic/Latino dominant community and don't get me started about the Filipinos in SoCal either.

[racepar1]

Thread has been derailed badly, lol.

With that said, I'm going to have to side with FL a little bit because NorCal is going through a phase where it's cool to drive a piece of shit with fucked up aero and ebay parts because "it's a missile" when about 1 out of 65 owners actually track their cars. In SoCal, it's almost the same but it's frowned upon unless you're from some Hispanic/Latino dominant community and don't get me started about the Filipinos in SoCal either.

240 owners EVERYWHERE are going through that "phase". It's not fair to blame Nor-Cal. Same with Filipinos...

This thread NEVER had a point and was "derailed" from the start, why not have a little useless fun before it's over?

RETARDED IS NOT A POINT!

:snoop:

[zooopreme]

240 owners EVERYWHERE are going through that "phase". It's not fair to blame Nor-Cal. Same with Filipinos...

This thread NEVER had a point and was "derailed" from the start, why not have a little useless fun before it's over?

RETARDED IS NOT A POINT!

:snoop:

I'm not saying that you're an old fart but you're old enough to not give a shit about social networking sites like Instagram, Twitter, and maybe Facebook (if you don't like staying connected with fam and old friends).

And with that said, if only you've seen what I have seen...

You're right, it is everywhere but in states where social networking is used by almost everybody in their state, there is a SIGNIFICANT increase in the amount of garbage is posted and is praised by many.

I pointed the shame finger at California because NorCal is full of fanboy hipsters and the amount of pictures taken of the missile and the exposure that goes with it. Same goes with SoCal.

There's no need to coddle Filipinos and California, the amount of proud pinoys/pinays of their pieces of shit and fanboys is almost as bad as Florida. FWIW, I never said that FL > CA. Just had to point out where this state is at and why it's not that much better than FL.

[racepar1]

I'm not saying that you're an old fart but you're old enough to not give a shit about social networking sites like Instagram, Twitter, and maybe Facebook (if you don't like staying connected with fam and old friends).

And with that said, if only you've seen what I have seen...

You're right, it is everywhere but in states where social networking is used by almost everybody in their state, there is a SIGNIFICANT increase in the amount of garbage is posted and is praised by many.

I pointed the shame finger at California because NorCal is full of fanboy hipsters and the amount of pictures taken of the missile and the exposure that goes with it. Same goes with SoCal.

There's no need to coddle Filipinos and California, the amount of proud pinoys/pinays of their pieces of shit and fanboys is almost as bad as Florida. FWIW, I never said that FL > CA. Just had to point out where this state is at and why it's not that much better than FL.

Wait, I'm confused... How did social networking suddenly become a part of this conversation? I do have facebook, but I do not see a point to any of the others though.

Nor-cal is full of granola eating hippie environmentalists and I point my finger at them for out Nazi smog laws. Although Nor-cal is pretty nice, my dad lived up there for a while.

I'm not defending anyone, but consider this. Trash is trash. It doesn't matter if they're white, black, brown, or yellow. They're all trash...


I think you're taking my post a little too seriously. I'm just screwing around...

[zooopreme]

Oh, I'm not being too serious either. By social networks I was referring to the huge rise in exposure of the trash.

[holemilk00]

I'm 7 years older then racepar and I have all the social medias. But I agree, it's become epidemic nation wide. Thankfully here in SW florida those kids are starting to change over to VW/Audi so it's slowly dying down in the s-chassis scene. And that's like heaven sent for me, I've owned a 240 since the mid 90s. I'm tired of broke ass kids giving ME a hard time because I don't drift my cars.

[zerodameaon]

Read what I said again. Slowly.
No need to read it again, the count was never reset, FL just surpassed Cali by the amount of dumbass posts coming out of it in the last year. The stupidity of some of the posts have not been as bad but the sheer amount makes it way worse.

[racepar1]

I'm tired of broke ass kids giving ME a hard time because I don't drift my cars.

That's the single most annoying thing about owning a 240. All the "Do you drift?" questions...

Then I either have to ignore them or explain at length that I never really got into drifting and did "grip" events instead.

[KendallH]

That's the single most annoying thing about owning a 240. All the "Do you drift?" questions...

Then I either have to ignore them or explain at length that I never really got into drifting and did "grip" events instead.

Easy way to end that conversation: "What is 'drifting'?"

[S14DB]

Well this thread has gone off track...