View Full Version : Best place to order a complete sr20det swap from?
oXeNo
10-08-2012, 07:30 PM
I've searched this up and all I've find a few places, and I've ordered a few motors before. But I just wanted a few people's person opinion on where the best places to buy a sr20 from now? Most of the threads I've searched are a little older I just wanted some current opinions!
boost1986
10-08-2012, 07:41 PM
I got mine from nagano usa last year. I had to replace a lot of parts on it tho. Igniter, injectors, MAF, pretty much all the sensors. The engine was the only good part. Try to pick a retailer that is close to u, go there and pick it out yourself.
fliprayzin240sx
10-08-2012, 07:48 PM
Find a place thats close by to you that you can physically pick an engine from. Fuck buying anything online, most SRs coming from Japan at this point are SHIT ENGINES!!!
Corbic
10-08-2012, 07:51 PM
Find a place thats close by to you that you can physically pick an engine from. Fuck buying anything online, most SRs coming from Japan at this point are SHIT ENGINES!!!
They are just 20 year old cores pulled from wrecked cars.
But agreed... you are absolutely right about finding a local selling the motor. Either a shop, craigslist or someone on one of the forums.
Corbic
10-08-2012, 07:52 PM
I got mine from nagano usa last year. I had to replace a lot of parts on it tho. Igniter, injectors, MAF, pretty much all the sensors. The engine was the only good part. Try to pick a retailer that is close to u, go there and pick it out yourself.
May have been a flood engine..
thizzen4
10-08-2012, 08:01 PM
I order mine from tiger japense this year adn new harness adn ecu 1805.00 shipped to my door after taxes but ecu was fryed and harfness had alot of broken conectors and some water corasion but engien runs great and was a gretat price
thizzen4
10-08-2012, 08:01 PM
Damn terrible spelling sorry about tht just quick typing
oXeNo
10-08-2012, 08:46 PM
Well it's hard to find a place around North Carolina that has motors for sale most of the places that I have found that sell them are around the mid west. I have been looking for some for a while. I have heard good things about tiger japanese and I have ordered form Zerolift before and had very good luck with them.
Corbic
10-09-2012, 04:53 AM
Well it's hard to find a place around North Carolina that has motors for sale most of the places that I have found that sell them are around the mid west. I have been looking for some for a while. I have heard good things about tiger japanese and I have ordered form Zerolift before and had very good luck with them.
Don't buy from Canada.
Canadian importers are notoriously difficult to deal with. Also if its extremely bothersome to track cross border shipments and credit card support is minimal.
It becomes very easy for a Canadian retailer to fuck over an American client and you have little recourse.
Avoid Tiger JDM, Osaka Motors ect*
*unless you live in Canada, then the International thing doesn't apply.
Also, like 10 years ago I used to hear good stuff about Venus Auto.
Don't buy from Canada.
Canadian importers are notoriously difficult to deal with. Also if its extremely bothersome to track cross border shipments and credit card support is minimal.
It becomes very easy for a Canadian retailer to fuck over an American client and you have little recourse.
Avoid Tiger JDM, Osaka Motors ect*
*unless you live in Canada, then the International thing doesn't apply.
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Amen this man speaks the troof!
badbob2121
10-09-2012, 06:32 AM
Your source for rare JDM Parts | JDM Hookup (http://www.jdmhookup.com/)
Very legit guys, and they have a great reputation.
STL240SXDRIFT
10-09-2012, 07:51 AM
^^^I second this...
JDMHOOKUP.com
You will not be sorry...totally legit guys
landins13
10-09-2012, 08:24 AM
depending on the part of north carolina you are in it would be worth the drive to come up to manassas VA and go to JEI so you can physically pick your engine. A lot of the guys here in the mid-atlantic have gotten engines from them with great success.
landins13
10-09-2012, 08:26 AM
Japanese Engine Import | JDM Engine Importer (http://www.japaneseengineimport.com/)
RiskyRick
10-09-2012, 10:16 AM
Nowhere. After being the drifter/ fanboy special for 20+ years, they've been mostly picked over. Keeping in mind that you're likely just going to be buying a motor that somebody in Japan didn't want, you're best bet is to buy from someplace within driving distance where you can physically see it before buying.
FRpilot
10-09-2012, 10:33 AM
based on everyone's comments, it sounds like more likely than not you are pretty much buying a complete swap with a motor that will probably need a rebuild.
i used to think this was an easy question. back then there was heavy throttle, phase 2, venusauto, jarco, gdimension, enjuku racing, pandagarage, jhot, etc. now almost no one imports front clips/engines anymore.
RiskyRick
10-09-2012, 10:41 AM
JDMHookup in STL is legit, I would second that suggestion, BUT I wouldn't go that route in your shoes since they aren't exactly within driving distance...
fliprayzin240sx
10-09-2012, 11:11 AM
Is Jarco the shop in ATL? I thought they're still open?
omgRWDgoodness!
10-09-2012, 11:16 AM
I got mine from nagano usa last year. I had to replace a lot of parts on it tho. Igniter, injectors, MAF, pretty much all the sensors. The engine was the only good part. Try to pick a retailer that is close to u, go there and pick it out yourself.
I had pretty much the same experience buying my RB from them, although not to that extent. They sent me the wrong MAF and never replaced it with the correct one even after I called like 3-4 times and them saying they would, so I just said fu** it and got one from the junkyard. After swapping the motor in it started up and ran great for over a year, but hasn't been at full potential the entire time (have since found out it has lower compression on Cyl #6...now it's sitting taken apart in my garage -___-) The ironic part is I promised myself I wasn't going to get a motorset off of eBay...and that's what I did :doh:
Corbic
10-09-2012, 11:51 AM
Is Jarco the shop in ATL? I thought they're still open?
I believe they are commercial only now, dealing in the remain business.
Corbic
10-09-2012, 11:58 AM
based on everyone's comments, it sounds like more likely than not you are pretty much buying a complete swap with a motor that will probably need a rebuild.
i used to think this was an easy question. back then there was heavy throttle, phase 2, venusauto, jarco, gdimension, enjuku racing, pandagarage, jhot, etc. now almost no one imports front clips/engines anymore.
It's all about the yen.
Back then it was 110-130 yen to the dollar, today it's what, 78 JPY to the USD?
That's 30% loss right there if you maintained prices! Worse yet shipping costs are up and the engines people want are now old as shit.
In 2003 you bet that S14 SR was only a few years old and low miles! Today it's now sat for 3 years after being flooded out in the Tsunami.
Also people are broke asses. A swap from HeavyThrottle was $3,500 for a red top and $4,200 for an S14 IIRC.
Today's kids puke blood over $1,750 for a SR. Spoiled bitches.
fliprayzin240sx
10-09-2012, 12:59 PM
SHit, I used to charge $3k for an S13 swap...I used to get an engine set from Venus Auto in Sac for $1300, another $200 in parts and $1500 profit for a weekend job.
oXeNo
10-09-2012, 03:42 PM
Thanks guys, I really appreciate all the helpful comments. But yeah I was probably gonna go with a S14 SR20 just because it's a little newer and has a chance for having lower miles then the red tops. It sucks cause there is really not many places around here that sell complete motor sets. I got lucky when I bought my Type R swap for my civic and got it maybe with 20k miles on it best running motor ive ever had. I was just hoping that maybe I could get something similar for my 240. But I am in a position to where I can buy back my old sr20 from the guy I sold it to, he said the compression failed in 2 of the cylinders so it would need a rebuild but it had a complete top mount set up with a 6puck act clutch and 550cc injectors and he was asking 1k for the whole thing with a extra 5 speed tranny.
terrence
10-09-2012, 03:46 PM
Well it's hard to find a place around North Carolina that has motors for sale most of the places that I have found that sell them are around the mid west. I have been looking for some for a while. I have heard good things about tiger japanese and I have ordered form Zerolift before and had very good luck with them.
You live in Thomasville, NC?
oXeNo
10-09-2012, 05:04 PM
Yeah I do. Why do you ask?
Corbic
10-09-2012, 05:14 PM
I can buy back my old sr20 from the guy I sold it to, he said the compression failed in 2 of the cylinders so it would need a rebuild but it had a complete top mount set up with a 6puck act clutch and 550cc injectors and he was asking 1k for the whole thing with a extra 5 speed tranny.
Dood, just rebuild that shit.
oXeNo
10-09-2012, 05:32 PM
I've thought about it, but when I had the motor it had some kinda problem runnin like it wouldn't ever idle or anything it sucked. That's one reason I really just wanna order one I've been wanting to get a s14 blacktop for a while.
Just throwing this out there, Im sure most of you know the low miles thing was a gimmick. In 2012 most of the people in Japan that are driving 90 era cars, are just like us. Their car is thier DD that they ZY drift gymkana or hardpark. When they decide to junk it the yards cut it for export, actually driving the prices in Japan back up. The percentages of the people who drive them on the weekends or special days are less than 2%. But as long as the engine has been well maintained it doesnt matter.
Corbic
10-09-2012, 08:16 PM
I've thought about it, but when I had the motor it had some kinda problem runnin like it wouldn't ever idle or anything it sucked. That's one reason I really just wanna order one I've been wanting to get a s14 blacktop for a while.
Yeah, because junkyard motors NEVER have idle issues.
terrence
10-09-2012, 08:17 PM
Yeah I do. Why do you ask?
Because that's where I live.
Corbic
10-09-2012, 08:26 PM
Just throwing this out there, Im sure most of you no the low miles thing was a gimmick. In 2012 most of the people in Japan that are driving 90 era cars are just like us. Their car is thier DD that they ZY drift gymkana or hardpark. When they decide to junk it the yards cut it for export, actually driving the prices back up. The percentages for the people who drive them on the weekends or special days are less than 2%. But as long as its been well maintained it doesnt matter.
The idea of low miles was two things -
1 - Horrible Traffic, small country. If you are living in the city you may only ever drive 5 miles round trip to work.... but it just might take you 5 hours.
2 - "Shaken", a taxing system designed to get people to buy new cars. This met that cars quickly found themselves devalued to nothing and scrapped/exported readily.
Years ago I would believe the 30-40k mile deal on an Accord motor. Your talking about a 3-5 year old car that's spent it's life in the city. Then again city mights are some seriously hard shit.
People just need to remember THESE ARE JUNK YARD ENGINES - JUST like American Junkyard engines (which are fuck-tons cheaper). A N/A 2JZ out of a Lexus goes for $350 at the local scrap yard, seen plenty.
You're surprised stuff is broken or missing?
http://www.stcengines.com/lpg/diesel-engine/img/STC-Engine-9.JPG
http://www.stcengines.com/lpg/diesel-engine/img/STC-Engine-11.JPG
http://i00.i.aliimg.com/photo/v0/115102234/Used_Japanese_car_parts_Used_Japanese_car.jpg
slower than you
10-09-2012, 09:27 PM
All the sr's you need are here in America already. Find a partout in the for sale section and buy that, or else you're going to be replacing a bunch of shit. That's just how the cookie crumbles.
The idea of low miles was two things -
1 - Horrible Traffic, small country. If you are living in the city you may only ever drive 5 miles round trip to work.... but it just might take you 5 hours.
2 - "Shaken", a taxing system designed to get people to buy new cars. This met that cars quickly found themselves devalued to nothing and scrapped/exported readily.
I see your point, and to most who haven't spent a day in Japan, sure it makes sense as you want to believe your getting the best product. And back in the day yea, alot more S/R chassis were driven by average ppl with no intentions of modifying their car.
Couple of things I've noticed here though. The majority of people who live in metro area's don't drive to work. If you live in smaller cities it becomes a mixed bag, Public transportation ensures you're never late and save the people alot of time and money as alot of bigger companies help pay your passes.
Being friends with alot of car shop owner and their customers, people rarely junk old sports cars. When they did it was generally just the chassis and the parts were either transported to another chassis or sold to other customers. Car's I have first hand seen scraped Glanza V,(4 sided crash good engine/drive train) B13 SER Shop entry level comp car good everything) ,
Back on topic I'd pick a place close and have someone inspect what your getting. Shipping an engine isn't exactly cheap, then to get it have having issues all can be eliminated.
sncs14
10-10-2012, 01:43 AM
I got my S14 SR from them a few years back. Had great customer service and the engine was super clean inside and out. The price was fair and they were close enough for me to drive there if it would have been necessary.
Looks like they have a new website in the works.
Contact us | Japanese Engine Import (http://www.japaneseengineimport.com/contact-us/)
oXeNo
10-10-2012, 08:23 PM
Alright cool. Well thanks for the info guys, I just got done pulling my RB20 out so I am just waiting to get my funds up to order a SR, I might try and take a trip up to the place you where talkng about sncs14 it's not that far of a drive. I am gonna take my time and clean up my engine bay and possibly repaint it and get rid of the surface rust on the frame rails.
blksylv
10-10-2012, 11:34 PM
there's also jspecauto in central va. i've seen quite a few guys from local forums get good engines from there. they'll be about 3-4 hrs closer to jei and they're cool dudes. i've also been to jei recently and can say that they have clean motors as well. i picked up a motor for my daily from there but haven't put it in yet.
fliprayzin240sx
10-11-2012, 06:16 AM
You live in Thomasville, NC?
How far are your from VB? There's a guy in CL out here selling an SR20 engine set with extras for a reasonable price...
SR20 turbo swap 240sx MUST GO ASAP MAKE OFFERS (http://norfolk.craigslist.org/pts/3307554344.html)
camry
10-11-2012, 06:29 AM
Is Jarco the shop in ATL? I thought they're still open?
I got my sr20 from Jarco a few years ago. Last went there about 3 years ago and one of the sales guys mentioned that they got out of the JDM import business. A few of their staff members who specialized in JDM engines were gone. They were top notch, no doubt about that but it's irrelevant info now.
Asuka
10-11-2012, 10:56 AM
Thank god for Dzung at Dallas Jdm motors. Hooked me up with an s13 blacktop, 20k documented miles. Engine, ECU, harness, and tranny $1,800 flat. Compression tested along with 3 others in front of me and I got to pull apart the motor on the shop floor.
oXeNo
10-11-2012, 07:01 PM
Zerolift. nuff said.
I've had a very good experience with zero lift before they are out of sr20s right now. They said they where gonna call me when they got some in stock.
towlie
10-11-2012, 09:08 PM
Just buy from ebay. Use a seller with a good review record
oXeNo
12-11-2012, 11:22 PM
Sorry for the late reply I haven't been here at all. But I ended up going with Jdmenginedepot, I ordered a blacktop s13 from them and ended up receiving a 96-98 blacktop type x. I got it and did a compression test on the pallet motor hasn't been ran or anything since I got it keep in mine. It got 180psi dead even every cylinder. Very very clean motor, everything was fine except I was missing my ecu and ignitor which they replaced no charge. Got it in and started right up like it had been ran yesterday. Couldn't have been happier and I am not driving around in the 240 again! Thanks for the help and info though guys it helped a lot.
iVanRoz
12-14-2012, 03:06 PM
Sorry for the late reply I haven't been here at all. But I ended up going with Jdmenginedepot, I ordered a blacktop s13 from them and ended up receiving a 96-98 blacktop type x. I got it and did a compression test on the pallet motor hasn't been ran or anything since I got it keep in mine. It got 180psi dead even every cylinder. Very very clean motor, everything was fine except I was missing my ecu and ignitor which they replaced no charge. Got it in and started right up like it had been ran yesterday. Couldn't have been happier and I am not driving around in the 240 again! Thanks for the help and info though guys it helped a lot.
this looks pretty neat.
on a kind of off topic question, i want to swap an sr into my car but I live in an appartment that has no space how much would a shop charge to install the engine completely?
Jason9011
12-14-2012, 06:18 PM
Your source for rare JDM Parts | JDM Hookup (http://www.jdmhookup.com/)
Very legit guys, and they have a great reputation.
+1
I bought my Sr20 from JDM hook up.I felt super comfortable buying it and they were very honest.
memphis180sx
12-14-2012, 06:26 PM
They are just 20 year old cores pulled from wrecked cars.
But agreed... you are absolutely right about finding a local selling the motor. Either a shop, craigslist or someone on one of the forums.
your info is horrible check out importperformanceshop.com they are good freinds of mine. They personally buy the cars running and driveing from the auctions and drive them to be dissasembled they all ran before they were pulled out. feel free to call and ask questions
Corbic
12-14-2012, 06:35 PM
your info is horrible check out importperformanceshop.com they are good freinds of mine. They personally buy the cars running and driveing from the auctions and drive them to be dissasembled they all ran before they were pulled out. feel free to call and ask questions
Sure thing, will it have 30,000 miles and all the paper work too... :cj:
Bmxer300zx
12-14-2012, 06:50 PM
Sorry for the late reply I haven't been here at all. But I ended up going with Jdmenginedepot, I ordered a blacktop s13 from them and ended up receiving a 96-98 blacktop type x. I got it and did a compression test on the pallet motor hasn't been ran or anything since I got it keep in mine. It got 180psi dead even every cylinder. Very very clean motor, everything was fine except I was missing my ecu and ignitor which they replaced no charge. Got it in and started right up like it had been ran yesterday. Couldn't have been happier and I am not driving around in the 240 again! Thanks for the help and info though guys it helped a lot.
good shit
me and my friends have ordered several sr20's, rb20, rb25 and vg30dett's from them and jdmenginezone only 20mins away and never had a problem.
we would just go too both places amd see what had the best looking one then find chepest.
Darkstream sx
03-26-2014, 01:51 PM
Bump this thread I live in mass trying to find a place close to me
black'N'proud
03-27-2014, 05:38 AM
Stay away from zero lift. The absolute worst customer service anywhere. Seriously, id would order from a Canadian hooker that said she could get me a low mileage sr before I deal with zero lift again.
Darkstream sx
03-27-2014, 07:36 AM
Mod Edit: You quoted a spam bot. Here is the right post.
I got mine from nagano usa last year. I had to replace a lot of parts on it tho. Igniter, injectors, MAF, pretty much all the sensors. The engine was the only good part. Try to pick a retailer that is close to u, go there and pick it out yourself.
How was it to deal with them and how did the condition of your motor look when you got it. I assume your motor is still running?
zerodameaon
03-27-2014, 02:10 PM
Don't make your decision about ZL based on him alone. Go find their review thread and make your own decision. There is also J Spec Auto, elite JDM etc.
Slammed95S14
03-27-2014, 02:23 PM
Never ordered from them, but jdmracingmotors.com looks legit. They have pictures of the motor you will receive instead of some stock photo. All their motors have compression test videos as well.
zerodameaon
03-27-2014, 03:11 PM
IIRC That is J Spec Autos Canadian division, or rather the other way around.
warnner
03-27-2014, 05:31 PM
Anybody know how good jdmenginedepot is?
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zerodameaon
03-27-2014, 11:32 PM
Go find their review thread.
Flyin_bryan
03-28-2014, 01:39 PM
Bought a S14 SR20 from jdm importers out of Richardson texas and will never do business there again.
billyinse
05-09-2014, 10:52 PM
I took what seemed to be a gamble according to reviews but i just got an S14 sr20det engine and trans from http://www.jdmtigerjapanese.com
i will go over the positives first and include some of my random pictures along the way, the motor arrived completly wrapped in plastic wrap and secured with steel straps on a new pallet (if you have ever gotten a shipment on an old falling apart pallet with 30 bent nails in it you know this is a plus)
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i122/billyinse/2014-04-15114532.jpg (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/billyinse/media/2014-04-15114532.jpg.html)
anyway, the motor compression tested good, the plugs were all better looking than anything i have pulled out of any motor,
worst looking one
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i122/billyinse/2014-04-17155211.jpg (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/billyinse/media/2014-04-17155211.jpg.html)
best one
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i122/billyinse/2014-04-17155205.jpg (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/billyinse/media/2014-04-17155205.jpg.html)
turbo is in great condition with 0 shaft play, sorry no pic of turbine blades but no damage
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i122/billyinse/2014-04-29125539.jpg (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/billyinse/media/2014-04-29125539.jpg.html)
the oil was not drained prior to shipping but i prefer that (i drain oil into a bucket and place a very strong magnet in the bottom and let it sit for a few days) when i pulled the magnet there was not a single shard of metal on the magnet. all hoses were intact (other than the cut aftermarket silicone radiator hoses) as were coil packs, intake manifold, injectors, belts and pulleys.
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i122/billyinse/2014-04-15114532-1.jpg (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/billyinse/media/2014-04-15114532-1.jpg.html)
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i122/billyinse/2014-04-29125240.jpg (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/billyinse/media/2014-04-29125240.jpg.html)
neither good or bad but a POSSIBLE sign of lower miles, the motor still had an oem clutch and flywheel with a little life left.
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i122/billyinse/2014-04-19145141.jpg (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/billyinse/media/2014-04-19145141.jpg.html)
also no compressor but has mount and tensioner so i can still make a bracket and use the stock ka compressor
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i122/billyinse/2014-04-23135145.jpg (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/billyinse/media/2014-04-23135145.jpg.html)
NOW FOR THE BAD! do not get a harness from them! the one i got had 20 wires cut by the ecu (some were probably turbo timer judging by aftermarket connectors on certain wires)
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i122/billyinse/2014-04-24234517.jpg (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/billyinse/media/2014-04-24234517.jpg.html)
and another 47 cut wires (missing connectors) past the firewall in the bay.
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i122/billyinse/2014-04-15153516.jpg (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/billyinse/media/2014-04-15153516.jpg.html)
next was that 2 of the studs holding the turbo to the manifold were broken (possibly from motor set stacking) that is about all i had trouble with. the motor is not in the car and running yet as i still have many parts to order but initial thoughts are i got a pretty good looking motor for $2450 USD shipped to my driveway in the middle of southcarolina (this included 100$ for harness and 150$ for ecu lift gate service was free) hope this helps
my s14
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i122/billyinse/2014-02-25145618.jpg (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/billyinse/media/2014-02-25145618.jpg.html)
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