best legal 240sx in California

[halokilller]

Ive been looking around for a 240sx to get into drifting with and I am finding a large number with swaps. I researched and found that basically only ka's are smog legal in california. Are there any other options because I am trying to steer clear of sr's and rb's. The stock hp doesnt seem good enough to hold a drift. I know its a newb question but any help will be appreciated!

[mowgli 240sx]

go ls powered then or drop in an engine from a z33

rb's and sr's are illegal in ca

[iveexcaped3]

all swaps are illegal in ca only thing you gotta worry about it getting it "smogged" then you can put in any thing you want, you can do the z swap but its alot of work to get it to pass

[PRADOgy]

The KA does fine. I don't know what kind of money you posses, but if you are going to spend the kind of money to make the power you are looking for street legal, you might as well go with another car all together that already makes the kind of power you are looking for.

[zerodameaon]

go ls powered then or drop in an engine from a z33

rb's and sr's are illegal in ca

+1 LS for street legal as long as all of the engines equipment, mainly stuff dealing with emissions, is OEM. There is a really decent build on here where the guy almost passed bar if it hadn't been for a aftermarket FPR.

[iveexcaped3]

+1 LS for street legal as long as all of the engines equipment, mainly stuff dealing with emissions, is OEM. There is a really decent build on here where the guy almost passed bar if it hadn't been for a aftermarket FPR.

I could have sworn I read some where you cant mix manufactures example Chevy to Nissan or Ford to Toyota just can only swap Nissan for Nissan but only for a newer year of the vehicle its transfering into. I'm not 100% positive on this but its worth looking into

[S14DB]

I could have sworn I read some where you cant mix manufactures example Chevy to Nissan or Ford to Toyota just can only swap Nissan for Nissan but only for a newer year of the vehicle its transfering into. I'm not 100% positive on this but its worth looking into
The only official thing is Car to Car. No truck engines in cars. If it was legal for sale in CA you can drop it in with all emissions components. The rest is just getting a Ref that understands what you are doing.

What I don't get is that the OP is in Chicago.

[iveexcaped3]

Yeah I know you had to swap all the emissions and stuff that was in the other vehicles. And I know I read your not allowed to swap to an older motor than the one that came in your car. Like i can't swap my 90 engine for a 83 but can any thing after 90. Once again not 100% can't believe everything you read on the internet lol

[slims13]

i'm pretty sure you can't switch up manufactures. has to be newer, and it has to be an engine offered in that car to get bar'd. thats why all the sti swaps are legal, its a pain in the ass to get a car bar'd tho. i've heard of people going as far as swapping out gas tanks to get bar'd. like wtf?

[brndck]

e-rod ls swap /thread.
(contact jordaninnovations for complete info and details)

[halokilller]

thanks for the replies guys, I know I can look at another car but the 240sx seems like the best starter drift car that I could learn in and then possibly do a ls swap with, other cars seem to be much heavier even though they offer more power

[brndck]

why are you worried about california when it says youre in chicago?

[halokilller]

why are you worried about california when it says youre in chicago?

moving :wavey:

[!Zar!]

I have yet to see a BAR'd LSx in a s-chassis.

I thought the biggest issue was the stock LS header got in the way of the steering shaft or something?

[halokilller]

I have yet to see a BAR'd LSx in a s-chassis.

I thought the biggest issue was the stock LS header got in the way of the steering shaft or something?

i contacted jordaninnovations, ill see what he says

[iveexcaped3]

thats because no one wants to deal with the head ache of a bar car and all the shit you have to swap for it, 80% of the s chassis in cali arent legal

[halokilller]

thats because no one wants to deal with the head ache of a bar car and all the shit you have to swap for it, 80% of the s chassis in cali arent legal

really? i thought only a small percentage were swapped, so do 80% "buy" passing smog

[EDacIouSX]

really? i thought only a small percentage were swapped, so do 80% "buy" passing smog

it's not 80%... it's an exaggeration. But a lot are swapped.

[Gizmo_S13]

You can always keep it dual cam, camshafts, q45 throttle boy, I/H/E, and a good tune an that'll be more than enough to get you going. Yes, the majority of S chassis owners are running swaps.

[halokilller]

You can always keep it dual cam, camshafts, q45 throttle boy, I/H/E, and a good tune an that'll be more than enough to get you going. Yes, the majority of S chassis owners are running swaps.

sounds good, thanks for all of the help guys!

[soreballz]

i'm pretty sure you can't switch up manufacturers.
I am 100% sure that you are wrong and have no business speaking up on the subject.

[Karlitos]

I am 100% sure that you are wrong and have no business speaking up on the subject.

x2. go read the CA Air Research Board rules. They're all over the internet, and explain everything. Can't be from different class vehicle (truck to car, vice versa) has to be same year or newer. Has to meet emission standards for the year of the new engine. No emissions may be modified in the swap (stock intake/headers/etc).

I've heard of a bar'd vq swap somewhere. I havent heard of an LSx swap because you will never get the stock headers to fit. Unless someone does CARB legal swap headers, but probably not worth the hassle/headache/money.

Sell your s-chassis and get an s2000. 250hp stock is more than enough than you'll ever need. Add a hardtop, wing, and tires and you'll be going under 2 minutes around BW in no time.

[iveexcaped3]

it's not 80%... it's an exaggeration. But a lot are swapped.

glad someone understands sarcasm lol

[zerodameaon]

i'm pretty sure you can't switch up manufactures. has to be newer, and it has to be an engine offered in that car to get bar'd. thats why all the sti swaps are legal, its a pain in the ass to get a car bar'd tho. i've heard of people going as far as swapping out gas tanks to get bar'd. like wtf?

First post fail.

Here is that LS3 almost BAR'ed swap I was talking about, Only thing that kept him from passing was the FPR. Dont say never. http://zilvia.net/f/builds-builds-only/385069-ls3-build-thread-s13-hatch-hate-v8.html

[brndck]

i'm pretty sure you can't switch up manufactures. i've heard of people going as far as swapping out gas tanks to get bar'd. like wtf?

not true. you can put any manufacturer engine in any other car, for instance, i can put honda in my nissan, or ford in my dodge, ect.

You cannot put truck into car, and vice versa. Must be your model year or newer. if my car is a 2000, i must put a 2000 or newer engine, and i must incorporate ALL of the emissions equipment that came from the car that the engine was out of.

THIS is where the problem lies, many newer cars have emissions equipment built into the factory gas tank, so it makes it extremely difficult to transfer that equipment over to another vehicle.

[halokilller]

thanks again guys, I would look into a s2k or even a 350z but I need a car with a back seat and something I could learn with. I might start looking into g35's but they are heavier and more expensive to deal with

[slims13]

well shit. guess i was wrong. and have been flamed for it. i've still never heard of anyone actually baring anything like an ls motor in a 240. regardless if someone "almost" did. i always thought the motor had to be offered in that chassis at one time or another, thats why all the civic boys are bar'd but no one else. guess not.

[drift freaq]

well shit. guess i was wrong. and have been flamed for it. i've still never heard of anyone actually baring anything like an ls motor in a 240. regardless if someone "almost" did. i always thought the motor had to be offered in that chassis at one time or another, thats why all the civic boys are bar'd but no one else. guess not.


That is the only reason why it was easy for the Honda boys to get bar'd.
Same thing with NA 2nd gen MR2's who decided to go 3SGTe. Since the Turbo engine was offered in the car U.S.. A lot of guys put in the imported Japanese 2nd or 3rd gen 3SGTe engines and got by smogging them because of it .

Yes it helped them but it did not define the letter of the law.

Lots of engine swaps from one manufacturer to another have been done legally in California. I am not talking about 240's here. Your frame of reference is rather narrow and not representative of engine swapping or hot rodding in general.

[halokilller]

what other options should I consider for a drift car if a ka isnt enough hp? It would need to be 4 seater

[Steo]

One of my friend is making 280hp to the wheel with a vh45 stock motor with just a log exhaust manifold. Where in California r u moving to? There's plenty of q45 in any salvage yard in La or San Diego u could get a full motor for less then $300 if u go on a Half day sale. Visit v8nissans.com

[halokilller]

One of my friend is making 280hp to the wheel with a vh45 stock motor with just a log exhaust manifold. Where in California r u moving to? There's plenty of q45 in any salvage yard in La or San Diego u could get a full motor for less then $300 if u go on a Half day sale. Visit v8nissans.com

irvine area

[halokilller]

Would a 240sx s13 or s14 be the best option for me since I would have a lot of money left over for parts/tires and repairs? The g35 could also be an option but they seem to be much heavier and harder to drift since I am a beginner. I want to stay away from 2 seater cars, otherwise I would consider a 350z. I was just wondering what opinions you guys have about this. I dont have to stay within the nissan family, it could be any brand as long as it can drift and be a dd.

[gearhead55]

10k budget.

G35...

http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc428/drifterxero/1311874141571.png




in all seriousness, tires are expensive, pick up a s13 with a KA, an lsd, and some suspension parts and call it a day.

[ka-t]

i have a car for you :)

1995 240sx
built sr with gt2871r
power fc and tuned making right under 400hp
on ksports

pm for more details if your interested

[RacerfreakXXX]

Either way a g35 or 350z will be about 10-15k for something decent and you still need about 5k worth of parts. 240sx or Miata or my favorite AE86 Corolla are you best options for finding something decent and rust free in the 4k+/- range. If you want to replace everything just buy a decent rolling chassis and put in a sr20 or ka and put in whatever parts you want. If you go with a miata go for the 94+ with the 1.8 and bigger rear end. Also if its a AE86 make sure its not a SR5 but a real GTS.

[Edwin562]

10k budget.


in all seriousness, tires are expensive, pick up a s13 with a KA, an lsd, and some suspension parts and call it a day.


^^^This.....

[kewilso3]

s13 or s14, you can easily have a reliable 200-300whp car with some suspension work done and an lsd for 5-10k, in a car that's well under 3000 pounds. Plus the endless support on s-chassis and drifting. There's a reason everyone does it.

edit: it will suck more for daily driving than new options

[halokilller]

s13 or s14, you can easily have a reliable 200-300whp car with some suspension work done and an lsd for 5-10k, in a car that's well under 3000 pounds. Plus the endless support on s-chassis and drifting. There's a reason everyone does it.

edit: it will suck more for daily driving than new options

ya, but I can deal with it, I drive a 05 wrx right now but I wouldnt mind the change

[halokilller]

i have a car for you :)

1995 240sx
built sr with gt2871r
power fc and tuned making right under 400hp
on ksports

pm for more details if your interested

Im trying to stay California smog legal since i will be moving there, but thanks for the offer and nice car

[shinobis13hb]

Nothing is legal in ca haha. To be honest try to have a DD and a drift car for track. YEARS back when I had a KA I had gotten 2 ref tickets .. On a STOCK car.

[halokilller]

Nothing is legal in ca haha. To be honest try to have a DD and a drift car for track. YEARS back when I had a KA I had gotten 2 ref tickets .. On a STOCK car.

I dont have the space, but I would do that

maybe ill just take the risk of a swapped car

[Tampwns]

^^ LOL yeeeeeeeee

[zooopreme]

I would highly suggest to keep track intended cars on the track & have a daily on the side.

I don't know about your situation but everybody in my house has a place to go with their own cars. If my car isn't working, I've got no ride to school or work.

You've got plenty of money to have a stock 240 that you can maintain AND another car to lightly mod to learn how to drift in. LSD, coilovers, & tires are pretty much all you need to learn. Hell, you could even go with a stock SR for a little more power and adjustable arms if you need to correct your suspension geometry which isn't necessary when learning how to track your car.

And what's all this worry about the G being too heavy...it's pushing a lot more power than a S13 can. With a massive weight reduction, you're going to find yourself with a good platform. But gutting your car for a daily is so dumb. I'd rather have a presentable interior than save the extra weight for a daily driver/grocery getter.

[silviaks2nr]

Drifting a car you plan to drive daily is dumb.

Buy a truck and a flatbed and a pos s13.

[halokilller]

I know its not the best of ideas, but thats my only choice. However, it wont be an issue if the car breaks down once in a while since I can borrow another car

[mishimoto]

Drifting a car you plan to drive daily is dumb.

Buy a truck and a flatbed and a pos s13.

I was going to agree until I read the next reply.

I know its not the best of ideas, but thats my only choice. However, it wont be an issue if the car breaks down once in a while since I can borrow another car

I am going to vote for s13 or s14 as well. Then you can spend some money on upgrades.:goyou:

[halokilller]

I am going to vote for s13 or s14 as well. Then you can spend some money on upgrades.:goyou:

This seems like the best option to me, thanks for all of the replies!

[zooopreme]

I know its not the best of ideas, but thats my only choice. However, it wont be an issue if the car breaks down once in a while since I can borrow another car

Looks like you've thought of everything then.

Go buy a 240 for your track car, cry about it being on jack stands months at a time, and then refer to this thread and read the warnings that people gave you.

I guarantee you that 80% of 240 owners hate daily-ing their shit and wish they had another car to daily. If they say they're fine with DD their S-Chassis: they're either full of shit or have their heads so far up this trendy bullshit that they're in denial of the benefits of having a daily driver with virtually no problems that you'll find in a low car.

The problem with the S-Chassis is that being on stock shocks/lowering spring suck & being low sucks too.

[halokilller]

Looks like you've thought of everything then.

Go buy a 240 for your track car, cry about it being on jack stands months at a time, and then refer to this thread and read the warnings that people gave you.

I guarantee you that 80% of 240 owners hate daily-ing their shit and wish they had another car to daily. If they say they're fine with DD their S-Chassis: they're either full of shit or have their heads so far up this trendy bullshit that they're in denial of the benefits of having a daily driver with virtually no problems that you'll find in a low car.

The problem with the S-Chassis is that being on stock shocks/lowering spring suck & being low sucks too.

Im not going to slam the car like most guys do, ill get adjustable coils and keep it almost stock height for dd and lower is for drifting events and such
I dont want to have to back out of drive way sideways or any of that :ughd:

[mowgli 240sx]

best legal is stock oem

[halokilller]

yes, I will keep my car's engine stock as much as possible, atleast while I am just learning

[joel1212]

Edited out information

[wangan_cruiser]

I guarantee you that 80% of 240 owners hate daily-ing their shit and wish they had another car to daily. If they say they're fine with DD their S-Chassis: they're either full of shit or have their heads so far up this trendy bullshit that they're in denial of the benefits of having a daily driver with virtually no problems that you'll find in a low car.

The problem with the S-Chassis is that being on stock shocks/lowering spring suck & being low sucks too.


been dd'ing my s13 for almost 6 yrs. i loved it even if its lowered lol i never had problems or never broke down on me.

[zooopreme]

been dd'ing my s13 for almost 6 yrs. i loved it even if its lowered lol i never had problems or never broke down on me.

You must be a part of the elite group of S-chassis owners that have a mint ass chassis :hey: csb, my s13 was fine when I got it too. But I hate dailying my shit with a passion & I've been driving this thing for almost 3 years now.

I had my pop's Highlander for a week & having a stock car felt great. The best feeling is driving without worrying too much about speedbumps, potholes, certain roads that will rape your asshole on shitty low budget coilovers.

A lot of S-Chassis trendy fanboys, like myself, can't truthfully say that unless their 4x4-ing their car which is ugly as a mother fucker.

And like a lot of people in this thread, we were suggesting getting two cars for 10,000 dollars if he wants to track one of them. And since OP isn't for that, I'm providing insight on what USUALLY happens. There are exceptions.

[halokilller]

been dd'ing my s13 for almost 6 yrs. i loved it even if its lowered lol i never had problems or never broke down on me.

ya, ive heard that the ka is a really strong motor

[halokilller]

You must be a part of the elite group of S-chassis owners that have a mint ass chassis :hey: csb, my s13 was fine when I got it too. But I hate dailying my shit with a passion & I've been driving this thing for almost 3 years now.

I had my pop's Highlander for a week & having a stock car felt great. The best feeling is driving without worrying too much about speedbumps, potholes, certain roads that will rape your asshole on shitty low budget coilovers.

A lot of S-Chassis trendy fanboys, like myself, can't truthfully say that unless their 4x4-ing their car which is ugly as a mother fucker.

And like a lot of people in this thread, we were suggesting getting two cars for 10,000 dollars if he wants to track one of them. And since OP isn't for that, I'm providing insight on what USUALLY happens. There are exceptions.

Thanks for the reply, I can always fall back and dd my wrx if I need to

[halokilller]

another point im trying to get at is if the stock ka is enough hp to drift

[halokilller]

another point im trying to get at is if the stock ka is enough hp to drift

never mind, found out that you just have to keep the car wide open due to the low hp

[Akito86]

whichever route you go, post pictures of your new buys sounds exciting and best of luck!

[halokilller]

whichever route you go, post pictures of your new buys sounds exciting and best of luck!

Thanks, I will

[BONIN240SX]

Ae86 4agze....nuff said

[mishimoto]

Ae86 4agze....nuff said

Oh yes, overlooked this one. How hard would it be to find a clean example?

[MamangSorbetero]

I live in CA and I DD a 90 KA24E hatch

It's completely stock and I'm in love. Perhaps later I can change to a twin-cam then later on an LS swap that follows smog.

I hate how you can't legally have an SR/RB though. RBs are so cheap in the Colorado area

[halokilller]

I live in CA and I DD a 90 KA24E hatch

It's completely stock and I'm in love. Perhaps later I can change to a twin-cam then later on an LS swap that follows smog.

I hate how you can't legally have an SR/RB though. RBs are so cheap in the Colorado area

Nice! What type of mpg's do you get

[lude4life13]

I guarantee you that 80% of 240 owners hate daily-ing their shit and wish they had another car to daily. If they say they're fine with DD their S-Chassis: they're either full of shit or have their heads so far up this trendy bullshit that they're in denial of the benefits of having a daily driver with virtually no problems that you'll find in a low car.

The problem with the S-Chassis is that being on stock shocks/lowering spring suck & being low sucks too.

I daily and love it. Wouldn't trade it for much of anything to be honest.

[ghoti]

Pre-1981 cars smog exempt in the near future? (http://japanesenostalgiccar.com/2012/03/22/california-bill-may-exempt-pre-1981-cars-from-smog-testing/)

Time to get a TE72 liftback:coolugh:

[MelloS13]

I use to daily and track my 240 KA24DE with no problem. Started out with simple coilovers and a 2way LSD. As I got more in to drifting I started to do more upgrades full adjustable arms, bucket seat and steering wheel. The more and more I got comfortable with the sport the more upgrades that came with it to solid subframe bushings and aluminum engine mounts. The car now sits as a full track car with Sr20, angle kit and fully gutted interior with cage.

What I'm trying to say is you can never stick to one simple mod when it comes to track days. I now drive a beat up ford to daily because taking the 240 out on the street is a headache plus it's to sketchy to park it around CA roads.

[halokilller]

I use to daily and track my 240 KA24DE with no problem. Started out with simple coilovers and a 2way LSD. As I got more in to drifting I started to do more upgrades full adjustable arms, bucket seat and steering wheel. The more and more I got comfortable with the sport the more upgrades that came with it to solid subframe bushings and aluminum engine mounts. The car now sits as a full track car with Sr20, angle kit and fully gutted interior with cage.

What I'm trying to say is you can never stick to one simple mod when it comes to track days. I now drive a beat up ford to daily because taking the 240 out on the street is a headache plus it's to sketchy to park it around CA roads.

Thanks for the input!

[zerodameaon]

I now drive a beat up ford to daily because taking the 240 out on the street is a headache plus it's to sketchy to park it around CA roads.

Playing dude wheres my car is not fun.

Remember Halo the 240 is now the new Honda, simple to steal. Get a good security system, but even then its still a risk.

[singlecamslam]

Daily driving a 240sx with solid subframe bushings, motor mounts, no sound deading SUCKS. I went from a 240 daily to a lexus, never knew a car could be so smooth, but the 240 comes out on the weekends. Its true what they say though, parking a 240 in CA streets is sketchy, makes me feel uneasy whenever i have to park it somewhere.

Summery: Avoid the headache, get a daily, track/ weekend drive the 240.

[halokilller]

Daily driving a 240sx with solid subframe bushings, motor mounts, no sound deading SUCKS. I went from a 240 daily to a lexus, never knew a car could be so smooth, but the 240 comes out on the weekends. Its true what they say though, parking a 240 in CA streets is sketchy, makes me feel uneasy whenever i have to park it somewhere.

Summery: Avoid the headache, get a daily, track/ weekend drive the 240.

Thanks for the input, im also considering a is300 now

[ghoti]

Thanks for the input, im also considering a is300 now

I've said this in another thread, the is300 handles like a boat. I've driven my friends with stiff coilovers and struts bars front and back. Still handles like a boat.

[joel1212]

I've said this in another thread, the is300 handles like a boat. I've driven my friends with stiff coilovers and struts bars front and back. Still handles like a boat.

good* coilovers + stiffer sways is what really makes the IS come alive.
struts dont do much.

[halokilller]

good* coilovers + stiffer sways is what really makes the IS come alive.
struts dont do much.

good to know,thanks

[OutlawLui]

The KA does fine. I don't know what kind of money you posses, but if you are going to spend the kind of money to make the power you are looking for street legal, you might as well go with another car all together that already makes the kind of power you are looking for.

+1







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[halokilller]

What other cars would you suggest?

[mishimoto]

What other cars would you suggest?

I still vote for a 240, but another option is a BMW E30.:D

[OutlawLui]

What other cars would you suggest?



Brz



:)

[halokilller]

Brz



:)

I wish, coming from a wrx, but out of my price range. Im down to sc300, 240, and is300 for now, will decide based on what deals I can find

[MamangSorbetero]

Nice! What type of mpg's do you get

Since I put new sensors in, I think it was about 23/28mpg and that's when I don't floor it. Got new O2 sensor, ECU temp sensor, air filter, plugs.

Daily driving a 240sx is so much fun. Its driving a car from a different time period when everyone was on the verge of something new. Technology was advancing and society as well; it reflects the design and feel of the 240sx.

The only thing I worry about now is security. Sure it's nice to drive a nice car, but there are people who eye ball my car too. Then again any car is susceptible to theft. You would just have to invest in an alarm system, gps tracking and kill switches if you want peace of mind.

As for comfort, keep in mind the age and era as well as the purpose of the car. It's not something I would take cross-country with me or across states. It's more a dedicated fun/sport car meant for quick bursts. I stripped everything in the interior leaving dash and front seats. It's a quirky and flimsy car but with the right upgrades can be a solid platform.

I bought the car because of how cheap and easy it is to fix. The RWD platform as well as manual transmission. The aftermarket parts are endless and you can fine-tune it to whatever you like. Buy one now before the price goes through the roof like the Supra did. I bought my 240sx for $1,300 and have spent upwards $1,500 restoring it. It's not for the faint of heart mind you; you need to know that these cars are old and need fixing. Be prepared, don't buy a 240sx and expect to be track star overnight.

Like 4chan's /o/ board would say, buy a Honda Civic for a first car. It's reliable, cheap, doesn't eat gas and can be a good "learner" car.

[halokilller]

Since I put new sensors in, I think it was about 23/28mpg and that's when I don't floor it. Got new O2 sensor, ECU temp sensor, air filter, plugs.

Daily driving a 240sx is so much fun. Its driving a car from a different time period when everyone was on the verge of something new. Technology was advancing and society as well; it reflects the design and feel of the 240sx.

The only thing I worry about now is security. Sure it's nice to drive a nice car, but there are people who eye ball my car too. Then again any car is susceptible to theft. You would just have to invest in an alarm system, gps tracking and kill switches if you want peace of mind.

As for comfort, keep in mind the age and era as well as the purpose of the car. It's not something I would take cross-country with me or across states. It's more a dedicated fun/sport car meant for quick bursts. I stripped everything in the interior leaving dash and front seats. It's a quirky and flimsy car but with the right upgrades can be a solid platform.

I bought the car because of how cheap and easy it is to fix. The RWD platform as well as manual transmission. The aftermarket parts are endless and you can fine-tune it to whatever you like. Buy one now before the price goes through the roof like the Supra did. I bought my 240sx for $1,300 and have spent upwards $1,500 restoring it. It's not for the faint of heart mind you; you need to know that these cars are old and need fixing. Be prepared, don't buy a 240sx and expect to be track star overnight.

Like 4chan's /o/ board would say, buy a Honda Civic for a first car. It's reliable, cheap, doesn't eat gas and can be a good "learner" car.

Thanks for your input!

[halokilller]

thought of another question, is a sc300 or a mkiii supra turbo better than a ka 240sx because it will push more hp/lb?

[OutlawLui]

Sc400 v8 would be a good choice. Not sure if it's a Light car or if the stock v8 has good power though, something to look into maybe?

[halokilller]

Sc400 v8 would be a good choice. Not sure if it's a Light car or if the stock v8 has good power though, something to look into maybe?

ya thats true, or just pay for "Smog"

[OutlawLui]

That's what we all do, but cant get into that here :( could get in trouble lol

[halokilller]

That's what we all do, but cant get into that here :( could get in trouble lol

I understand, I know most people do it anyway

[Bambi]

E36, more so a 325/328, is an option too. I remember insurance being exactly just $1 more than on my 240sx. haha

[halokilller]

E36, more so a 325/328, is an option too. I remember insurance being exactly just $1 more than on my 240sx. haha

how are they for drifting?

[halokilller]

how are they for drifting?

anyone? still wondering

[Bambi]

how are they for drifting?

anyone? still wondering

So sorry for the late reply. Anyways, they're f'ing awesome. Know a couple dudes who drift in 'em. One has a 325 (6 cylinder) and that thing is awesome and hasn't failed yet and handles the abuse very well. He even drifted the shit out of it with an open diff and could keep that thing sideways for so long. And the other dude has a 318i and the 4 cly it has enough power for some sliding, but would be nicer boosted or sc'd. I had a 318is and loved it.

if you do go the e36 route you have to get a 325/328. Lots of more support for the 6 cylinder and just stock is pretty good. Also, just about every BMW engine is easy to stuff in that thing if you ever wanna get kinky with it.

Would love to have an e36 325 myself but I'm way too attached to my two tone coupe. :D

[Mofuhcka]

You have 10k to play with, buy a cheap 240 and swap in a 2jz or an LS, you have a bunch of money to get started.

[mishimoto]

You have 10k to play with, buy a cheap 240 and swap in a 2jz or an LS, you have a bunch of money to get started.

LS seems to be popular and easy in just about anything these days.

[SRp0wers13]

are you makin this a daily? if that's the case, talk to pplz to get it smog. cali is a sht state to get a modify car smog...

[halokilller]

are you makin this a daily? if that's the case, talk to pplz to get it smog. cali is a sht state to get a modify car smog...

im more worried about being pulled over and getting caught

[Brian04]

Step 1: Pull out stock KA24DE

Step 2: Install GM LS3 E-Rod Kit (CARB approved)

Step 3: Check and DOUBLE CHECK the install

Step 4: Get it approved by a state smog referee

Step 5: You now have a LEGAL 420HP LS3 powered S chassis


You can thank me later

[OutlawLui]

Step 1: suicide

[Mofuhcka]

Step 1: Pull out stock KA24DE

Step 2: Install GM LS3 E-Rod Kit (CARB approved)

Step 3: Check and DOUBLE CHECK the install

Step 4: Get it approved by a state smog referee

Step 5: You now have a LEGAL 420HP LS3 powered S chassis


You can thank me later

:bow:

im more worried about being pulled over and getting caught

If you dont drive like a dick you wont get pulled over. Getting pulled over doesnt mean you automatically get your hood popped. Just go LS, refer to this build thread: http://zilvia.net/f/builds-builds-only/385069-ls3-build-thread-s13-hatch-hate-v8.html

[Teddy]

The stock hp doesnt seem good enough to hold a drift.

The stock hp doesnt seem good enough to hold a drift.

The stock hp doesnt seem good enough to hold a drift.

The stock hp doesnt seem good enough to hold a drift.

The stock hp doesnt seem good enough to hold a drift.

The stock hp doesnt seem good enough to hold a drift.

The stock hp doesnt seem good enough to hold a drift.

The stock hp doesnt seem good enough to hold a drift.

The stock hp doesnt seem good enough to hold a drift.

The stock hp doesnt seem good enough to hold a drift.

The stock hp doesnt seem good enough to hold a drift.

The stock hp doesnt seem good enough to hold a drift.

The stock hp doesnt seem good enough to hold a drift.

The stock hp doesnt seem good enough to hold a drift.

The stock hp doesnt seem good enough to hold a drift.

The stock hp doesnt seem good enough to hold a drift.

The stock hp doesnt seem good enough to hold a drift.

The stock hp doesnt seem good enough to hold a drift.

The stock hp doesnt seem good enough to hold a drift.

The stock hp doesnt seem good enough to hold a drift.

The stock hp doesnt seem good enough to hold a drift.

The stock hp doesnt seem good enough to hold a drift.

The stock hp doesnt seem good enough to hold a drift.

The stock hp doesnt seem good enough to hold a drift.

The stock hp doesnt seem good enough to hold a drift.

The stock hp doesnt seem good enough to hold a drift.

The stock hp doesnt seem good enough to hold a drift.

The stock hp doesnt seem good enough to hold a drift.

The stock hp doesnt seem good enough to hold a drift.

The stock hp doesnt seem good enough to hold a drift.

The stock hp doesnt seem good enough to hold a drift.

The stock hp doesnt seem good enough to hold a drift.

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[Mofuhcka]

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_md3o6aXW941r5vpk0o1_500.jpg

I know... :wtf:

[halokilller]

I know... :wtf:

sorry, thought i was asking a valid question