Stuck between 2 cars!

[need2speed94]

Alright... I'm in need for a car fast, I've found 2 candidates... One of which I'm actually going to see tomorrow and intended to buy (300ZX NA). That was, until I found a Sil40 Coupe for the same price in very nice condition. Both are nice cars and I've noticed what I don't like about both.

Bads:

300ZX

Front bumper is different color
It's NA -_-
High mileage on the chassis (300,xxx)
Higher insurance than the 240

Sil40

No trunk key
Air intake leak the guy says... So a vacuum leak of some sort?
Oil leak
The Sil front is missing the left amber turn signal

Here are the cars...

1990 300zx sale/trade 3500 obo (http://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/3076841796.html)
1989 240sx coupe (http://stockton.craigslist.org/cto/3090239746.html)

Advice on which I should get?

[Sileighty_85]

Id go for the car that is cheaper and easier to maintain

[need2speed94]

Id go for the car that is cheaper and easier to maintain

Well they are both going for the same price... The 240 would be a TON easier to work on, although the Z has a 30,xxx mile motor and it's most likely in better condition than the KA24 that's at 146,xxx. Kinda of a dilemma.

[Sileighty_85]

I mean cheaper to maintain.

Clearly you have never worked on a Z.

The engine bay is not really mechanic friendly.

If you have little mechanical experience and funds Id go with the S13

You can find KA's like penny's on the streets and can swap an engine in a day.

[need2speed94]

I mean cheaper to maintain.

Clearly you have never worked on a Z.

The engine bay is not really mechanic friendly.

If you have little mechanical experience and funds Id go with the S13

You can find KA's like penny's on the streets and can swap an engine in a day.

Yeah I haven't. Last time I even was near a Z was when my dad owned one (10+years ago). But I know the engine bay is just a terrible disaster. I am used to cramped engine bays though, I had an LS1 Camaro and it was just as bad under the hood. Hmm, I really do have a thing for S13's. I'm just wondering which vacuum line is missing and what else could be wrong with it.

[Kuma]

I don't trust people so unless the guy can prove otherwise, I'd assume that engine has 100k+ on the 300zx. I've also read too many horror stories about JDM engines to buy a car with a fresh swap. Why swap in an engine from Japanland just to turn around and sell the car? Why not pull a cheap running engine from a JY?

[dawagarage]

+1 for the S over the Z.
i have an s14 and a TT z32. the S is obviously going to be less expensive to fix & maintain. the z's engine bay is such a crammed bitch to work in/on. plus i wouldnt fuck with anything with that many miles.

[need2speed94]

I don't trust people so unless the guy can prove otherwise, I'd assume that engine has 100k+ on the 300zx. I've also read too many horror stories about JDM engines to buy a car with a fresh swap. Why swap in an engine from Japanland just to turn around and sell the car? Why not pull a cheap running engine from a JY?

Yeah that's smart.

+1 for the S over the Z.
i have an s14 and a TT z32. the S is obviously going to be less expensive to fix & maintain. the z's engine bay is such a crammed bitch to work in/on. plus i wouldnt fuck with anything with that many miles.

AND it's going to be less to insure. I found out that the Z even being the NA model will be more expensive to insure than my LS1 Camaro. Wasn't too happy about that but man are those good looking cars. I feel like 240's are people's toys... which is why I am so skeptical to buy them.

[closgatakouki]

Damn 89 coupe for sure if it were in east coast wouldv sold in heart brat

[Kuma]

I feel like 240's are people's toys... which is why I am so skeptical to buy them.

Any sporty car is someone's toy... Depends on your level of income. Just because you have enough money to have a camaro SS, M3 or 300zx TT doesn't mean you have the experience to do proper work on them (not saying you specifically). You want a car that hasn't been dogged out/tore up? Buy a stock camry. It's just the nature of the beast.

[need2speed94]

Any sporty car is someone's toy... Depends on your level of income. Just because you have enough money to have a camaro SS, M3 or 300zx TT doesn't mean you have the experience to do proper work on them (not saying you specifically). You want a car that hasn't been dogged out/tore up? Buy a stock camry. It's just the nature of the beast.

Yeah I know, that... It's just most 240's I've been looking at have been through hell and back ya know? It's somewhat hard to find one that isn't in bad condition in some aspect. The only thing wrong with this one is it needs some valve cover bolts, which I could most likely find at Pick N Pull, a gasket that I could get at autozone, and one of the air intake vacuum lines (not sure which one).

[s14j]

there both so over priced. i think you can find something nicer cleaner for cheep.

[JasianBlazin]

lol at these threads.

[need2speed94]

there both so over priced. i think you can find something nicer cleaner for cheep.

The guy with the Sil40 said he'll do 3200. Still a bit steep for an 89, but the paint is actually good, the interior is also good, and it's got the Sil front.

lol at these threads.

Well hey it gave you something to comment on since you have nothing better to do didn't it :)

[KiLLeR2001]

S13 hardtop coupe, cant go wrong

[need2speed94]

The more and more I think about it... 300,xxx mile 300ZX? F THAT.

[Kuma]

The guy with the Sil40 said he'll do 3200. Still a bit steep for an 89, but the paint is actually good, the interior is also good, and it's got the Sil front.


What's it worth to you? sil front, missing a corner lense? dohc swap thats leaking both oil and vacuum leak(s) and apparently missing bolts (WTF?)... To me, that car isnt worth more than $2k, and thats if there is no rust either... But then again I had patience and got a zenki s14 for about 2k.

[Slammed Assassin]

I'd rather jump on the s13! easy to work on and maintain.

[Kevin920415]

get s13 period.

[need2speed94]

What's it worth to you? sil front, missing a corner lense? dohc swap thats leaking both oil and vacuum leak(s) and apparently missing bolts (WTF?)... To me, that car isnt worth more than $2k, and thats if there is no rust either... But then again I had patience and got a zenki s14 for about 2k.

Honestly it's been hard to find even a decent 240 around here. I really wish I was located in SoCal where there is more selection. I think I'll pickup the 300ZX and just baby it and use it as a daily in the meantime and hold out on the 240... again :/

I'd rather jump on the s13! easy to work on and maintain.

Very true. Although I need a car that runs fine and doesn't need any maintenance as is. I just sold my other car that was running and I can't work until I have another car. Yeah I know... Smart hah.

get s13 period.

My time will come I guess

[Kuma]

Whats wrong with this car?

1993 240SX Auto (http://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/3093305585.html)

Or this one? I bet you could talk this guy down to $2200
1996 240sx s14 very clean $2700 obo (http://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/3086121629.html)

After looking on your local CL, you picked 2 of the shittiest cars on there. I see a riced out piece of shit in your near future.

[need2speed94]

Whats wrong with this car?

1993 240SX Auto (http://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/3093305585.html)

Or this one? I bet you could talk this guy down to $2200
1996 240sx s14 very clean $2700 obo (http://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/3086121629.html)

After looking on your local CL, you picked 2 of the shittiest cars on there. I see a riced out piece of shit in your near future.

1. I don't care what the reason for it was, but I don't buy salvage title cars anymore.
2. Automatics aren't for me. Hell, an automatic 240 would get worse gas milage than my 6 Speed LS1 Camaro. That's pitiful. I'm going to be driving 40 miles a day for school plus however much I drive for work.

Yes, I am picky about what I want. I don't want to spend money and not be happy. What fun would that be :) And as for your "funny" comment about me owning a ricey car in the future... Not a chance. Maybe a car that needs work... but not ricey!

[Kuma]

Fair enough... Auto 240sx's aren't bad on gas at all. And you could always do a 5spd swap... But you'd rather spend all your time and money fixing someone else's hacked up project. Good luck to you.

[need2speed94]

Fair enough... Auto 240sx's aren't bad on gas at all. And you could always do a 5spd swap... But you'd rather spend all your time and money fixing someone else's hacked up project. Good luck to you.

Well they aren't THAT bad... but put it like this, my 5.7L, 3600lb Camaro got 17 city 28 highway. That makes the KA look really bad lol. One day I'll find the 240 for me :coolugh:

[Kuma]

You do realize that 300zx is going to get worse gas mileage right? What does the "94" in your SN mean? Is that the year you were born? That would explain a lot. Welcome to zilvia, please stick around and make a thread about the car you end up buying.

Gas Mileage of 1995 Vehicles by Nissan (http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/bymake/Nissan1995.shtml)

[need2speed94]

You do realize that 300zx is going to get worse gas mileage right? What does the "94" in your SN mean? Is that the year you were born? That would explain a lot. Welcome to zilvia, please stick around and make a thread about the car you end up buying.

Gas Mileage of 1995 Vehicles by Nissan (http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/bymake/Nissan1995.shtml)

Yeah... and insurance will be more. I'm over that. I'm just saying... for a 4 cyl to get the same gas as a V8 even when the 4 cyl is powering a lighter car, that's just not right. And yes it is. I'm still young hop off! Fact of the matter is I'm buying myself another car and it's coming down to a lot of factors. If I didn't have to commute everyday I'd just pickup that Sil40 right now and call it a day. I'm just trying to make the best decision.

[lilnick122891]

You had a ls camero and you were born in 94? if i were you i would talk down that guy with the auto 14 and do a 5spd swap and call it a day or just leave it auto. Ive seen that sil40 in person and its a overpriced pos, atleast with the auto you know it probaly hasnt been raped much.

[JdmDrift4Food]

Why do you need a bunch of strangers on the internet to choose a car for you????? I really dont understand people these days. I mean, I understand your probably still in high school, but you should still be able to make your own decision.. Plus, no one cares about your ls1 Camaro so stop mentioning and secretly bragging about it. If your looking for opinions, I say go back to your camaros and stop wasting bandwidth on our s and z chassis site... Just my 2cents, but your entitled to your own decisions.

[Piggy]

Neither. Get a Civic.

[Sumslapper]

All that coupe needs is some nice wheels an coils. The 300zx takes a lot more money to look and perform proper. Thanks for the link maybe I will go swoop that coupe :)

[zooopreme]

I am used to cramped engine bays though, I had an LS1 Camaro and it was just as bad under the hood.

I found out that the Z even being the NA model will be more expensive to insure than my LS1 Camaro.

2. Automatics aren't for me. Hell, an automatic 240 would get worse gas milage than my 6 Speed LS1 Camaro.

Well they aren't THAT bad... but put it like this, my 5.7L, 3600lb Camaro got 17 city 28 highway.

Seriously?

Want everybody's two cents? Don't get picky. Somebody posted a S14 that was automatic & you're acting like KA's get good mileage to begin with.

Since you're so mechanically inclined, a 5 speed swap could easily be done for that S14, found at your local pick a part according to you.

You sound like this kid I know named Dustin that annoys the hell out of me. Indecisive, impatient, and down right childish. If you hadn't noticed, you're shopping around for a near 20 year old car & expecting it to be golden by the time you get it.

Want a car that gets great miles and is easy to maintain? Get a Civic or a Camry.

[need2speed94]

Thanks for all the input bad and good :) the good helped, the bad just gave me something to laugh at. And for all you asking yes I am young, get over it. And I am very indecisive/picky right now since I am going to have to pay for a new car, college tuition, and tools for college. I want to make the right choice can't blame me for that can ya? :) Hell if I was as old as you guys and had a full time rather than part time job I'd go pickup the CHEAPEST 240 on there and build her up myself. But like I said, limited on money, time, need a reliable car for work/college. I was just hoping to find a 240 that was in at least decent condition or up to par in what I want.

And as for the 2 cars... I went to look at the Z and man it was a bucket lol. Going to look at the 240 early Sunday. Warped Tour saturday :D

[fyneyoungstunna]

I dont feel like any REAL Z owners posted in this thread. So let me help you out.
Z gets decent gas mileage. There are things you can do to improve it, but like people have said, its no civic. A Zed will look better than a 240 every time hands down...unless its been riced out. They are no harder to work on than any other car. BUT, good luck finding a reputable mechanic to work on one, that wont charge you an arm and a leg.
Z's are not hard to bring back from the dead, depending whats wrong with them. However, It WILL cost you a pretty penny. Don't expect to make gobs of power from an NA without spending money. They are "fast" in their own rights though. They are comparable to an NSX: a car that was meant to be driven. Proper handling, feedback, and road-feel are all great qualities of a Z.
Your getting jipped on insurance quotes lol, I pay 80 a month on mine.

[JasianBlazin]

A Zed will look better than a 240 every time hands down

yeah, no.

[moth]

s13 dude, the 300 parts are expensive the engine bay is cramped, and the s13 is fun to work on and they pop up in junkyards far more frequently from my experience.

[moth]

and the z doesnt look better in my opinion neither, and it doesnt have +2 seats( if you want them)

[need2speed94]

I dont feel like any REAL Z owners posted in this thread. So let me help you out.
Z gets decent gas mileage. There are things you can do to improve it, but like people have said, its no civic. A Zed will look better than a 240 every time hands down...unless its been riced out. They are no harder to work on than any other car. BUT, good luck finding a reputable mechanic to work on one, that wont charge you an arm and a leg.
Z's are not hard to bring back from the dead, depending whats wrong with them. However, It WILL cost you a pretty penny. Don't expect to make gobs of power from an NA without spending money. They are "fast" in their own rights though. They are comparable to an NSX: a car that was meant to be driven. Proper handling, feedback, and road-feel are all great qualities of a Z.
Your getting jipped on insurance quotes lol, I pay 80 a month on mine.

The looks is strictly peoples' opinion. IMO the Z looks better. In this case, this one was just a pile that I don't have time to revive. As much as I wanted it, I had to deny it.

s13 dude, the 300 parts are expensive the engine bay is cramped, and the s13 is fun to work on and they pop up in junkyards far more frequently from my experience.

Yeah I'm going to look at her on sunday. The Z was a big POS. The Z engine bay woudn't bother me too much, my old car was the same way. Compared to the 240 however it looks like a disaster lol. And yes, there are plenty of KA powered cars at both of my local pick n pull so if I ever needed parts I have them at my disposal.

and the z doesnt look better in my opinion neither, and it doesnt have +2 seats( if you want them)

I don't like the extra seats actually... Too many people ask for rides lol.

[Xplat]

then rip the back seats out

[need2speed94]

then rip the back seats out

I'm just saying I don't like the 2+2 model. It was a coupe :) ...well, what was left of a coupe hah.

[fyneyoungstunna]

A 240 will NEVER look this sexy:
http://imgur.com/A8cHv.jpg
http://www.300zxclub.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=62523&d=1338841705
http://distilleryimage2.instagram.com/446ef732a46911e181bd12313817987b_7.jpg
http://oi46.tinypic.com/2mplw9d.jpg

17 or 18 x 12......
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/539973_295318687223418_120733034681985_670917_1005 211470_n.jpg

CANT TOUCH THIS
http://gifsoup.com/imager.php?id=92963&t=o (http://gifsoup.com/view/92963/u-can-t-touch-this-dance.html) GIFSoup (http://gifsoup.com/)

[fyneyoungstunna]

why you guys like monster truck?

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i170/zitandspit99/IMG_0887.jpg
(z is stock ride height, 240 is lowered)
skyline suv?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/paintballpunk23/IMG_1826ee.jpg
Camarowboat...
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh134/daxnizmo/stuff/0525001015.jpg
where Z go?
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh134/daxnizmo/stuff/0525000931a.jpg

ok, im dont shit talking....but it was fun

[towlie]

Your a douche bag^.


On topic I've owned both and s13 is the way to go. Cheaper to maintain, parts easy to find, easy to wrench on

[AndyG]

I would go with the s13 for sure.

[fyneyoungstunna]

I talk a lot of shit, just cause I get bored sometimes.
Ok, on topic. Ill tell you the other side of my thoughts ( I know, I know, youd rather not hear them):

Nothing wrong with the 240sx. Hell, if i wasn't swamped with projects I would actually get a coupe and turn it into my semi-DD. They have a lot of pros over the 300zx....for a "tuner" car. 300zx still beats it as a sports car.
Its easier to work on
Parts are waaay more plentiful than Z parts.
I cant say that parts are cheaper, depending on what parts. Lets face it, the "drift tax" still affects the 240. Never hit the Z.
I am cautious of them cause if I decide to go to the mall, I might not be able to pick mine out from the crowd. (cheap jab lol)
Better in the winter.
Less of a pain to maintain.

[need2speed94]

Play nice you guys lol. All nissan here haha. I went with the S13, got him to go down to 3k. Exterior is 9/10, missing antenna, good paint especially for a 240, bracket for left silvia turn signal broke so thats off for now (simple fix), interior is 7/10. The S14 kouki seats are really nice, I Hate the automatic seatbelts lol, needs a stereo, no cracks in dash, NRG quick release/wheel, normal wear/tear everywhere else. Need to get a trunk key for it. Owner lost it. Won't pass smog but I got that handled already. The drivers side door locks but unlocks when I close the door? Gotta take a look at that. Good thing I have the quick release... Only security that cars got really. Only mods are a 3" catback, an aluminum radiator, and some other small stuff. Should be a fun car! Just gotta get a valve cover gasket, valve cover bolts, and that vacuum line for the air intake. Runs fine as is though.

[fyneyoungstunna]

Just depends on what you want out of your car.
If you want to drift and be in the "in" crowd, get a 240.
The Z can drift just as well, but would not make a good missle.
If you want something you can track/auto-x/drift, and stand out in the sea of most other cars, the 300zx is for you.
If you dont make the dough to have 1 or 2 grand on deck, at all times, for car repair, cant work on cars, or are OK with taking the lazy route when it comes to working on them; then the 240 is for you. The Z will result in catastrophe from shortcuts...

[xh3nry]

You and your Camaro talk hahaha

[Kuma]

If it's missing valve cover bolts, lord only knows what other bolts are MIA... Guess whoevers behind you on the highway will find out.

Try closing your door while holding the handle... Had that problem on an olds.

[need2speed94]

Just depends on what you want out of your car.
If you want to drift and be in the "in" crowd, get a 240.
The Z can drift just as well, but would not make a good missle.
If you want something you can track/auto-x/drift, and stand out in the sea of most other cars, the 300zx is for you.
If you dont make the dough to have 1 or 2 grand on deck, at all times, for car repair, cant work on cars, or are OK with taking the lazy route when it comes to working on them; then the 240 is for you. The Z will result in catastrophe from shortcuts...

Right now since I'm in college and need my car for work I just want my car to look nice, run good, and be a little fun here and there. The 240 is obviously a more practical car but the Z has some significance in my family.

You and your Camaro talk hahaha

Haha I know I know, I didn't realize how much I brought it up until that guy quoted all of my replies. Sounds like I was trying to brag... But I wasn't. I don't even have a single picture of it on here lol.

If it's missing valve cover bolts, lord only knows what other bolts are MIA... Guess whoevers behind you on the highway will find out.

Try closing your door while holding the handle... Had that problem on an olds.

Haha it's solid besides that.

[zneubauer]

Silvia, a lot less expensive to maintain/build/etc..

[need2speed94]

Silvia, a lot less expensive to maintain/build/etc..

I picked her up already :)

[fyneyoungstunna]

Cant hate on you for your choice. As you said, it mostly boils down to practicality. So if its practical for you then you made the right choice. Now go post pics of both cars so we can see.

Cant hate on Camaros, If it wasnt for the roof line being too low for me to see out of, id have an old one. Plus, how do hate on the car that has the most desirable engine for you drift and drag guys?

p.s. Take my razzing as just that, I wasnt trying to stir shit, just give you guys a lil shit.

[need2speed94]

Cant hate on you for your choice. As you said, it mostly boils down to practicality. So if its practical for you then you made the right choice. Now go post pics of both cars so we can see.

Cant hate on Camaros, If it wasnt for the roof line being too low for me to see out of, id have an old one. Plus, how do hate on the car that has the most desirable engine for you drift and drag guys?

p.s. Take my razzing as just that, I wasnt trying to stir shit, just give you guys a lil shit.

Oh did the links not work? I will try to get the pics/find the ones I had of the Z and I'll post the ones I took of the S13. Yeah dude I can see why Camaro's/Mustang's/Domestics in general get hated on because of how much they weigh... but seriously I don't understand what about the LS1 specifically there is to hate? Peak torque is at 3400, it's all aluminum, it's compact (fits like shit in the Camaro though lol, hated it), the aftermarket seems like you own a Honda... Parts everywhere, respond well to mods, bolt on LS1's can potentially make 350whp. I think the only thing I'd see wrong with an LS1 for drifting is the rod bolts, and the PCV system on some of them. The rod bolts are weak, so you drifters can't molest the rev limiter too much lol... and the PCV system is shit. Sometime's I'd be down almost 1.5 quarts of oil every change (3,000 miles). Just something to consider if you plan to go LS1. Other than that... fantastic motor and I loved it.

[need2speed94]

240SX (Purchased)

http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g406/need2speed94/89%20240SX%205%20Speed/sil40right.jpg

Good paint on an 89'... 240SX!? Whaaa!?

http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g406/need2speed94/89%20240SX%205%20Speed/sil40nrgwheel.jpg

Ahh the missing bolts really bother me... I'm somewhat of a perfectionist so I think I'm gonna go to the local import shop and see if they have a wood grain NRG :D

http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g406/need2speed94/89%20240SX%205%20Speed/sil40left.jpg

http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g406/need2speed94/89%20240SX%205%20Speed/sil40interior.jpg

http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g406/need2speed94/89%20240SX%205%20Speed/sil40front.jpg

[need2speed94]

300ZX (CL pics didn't take any when I went to see it)

http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g406/need2speed94/90%20300%20ZX%205%20Speed/Z4.jpg

http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g406/need2speed94/90%20300%20ZX%205%20Speed/Z3.jpg

http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g406/need2speed94/90%20300%20ZX%205%20Speed/Z2.jpg

http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g406/need2speed94/90%20300%20ZX%205%20Speed/Z1.jpg

Pictures make it look cosmetically very nice huh!? Not so much in person -_- It ran strong but man it was an eye sore. Plus there was 340,000 on the chassis. The pain had so many more flaws than you can even begin to see from the pics.

[silvia1991]

S chassis over z!!! Ive had a few friends who seem to fixing another problem on their z every other week lol.

[feito]

Good choice, althou for that much id would have gotten a stockish s14, even better if auto. Looks like they overcharged u silvia taxes there..

[zooopreme]

Good choice, althou for that much id would have gotten a stockish s14, even better if auto. Looks like they overcharged u silvia taxes there..

This.

OP basically paid for what the owner paid for.

The car has a clean exterior but if I had a choice to go with a 14. I would've taken it -- no problem. Camry life is the best life.

[need2speed94]

S chassis over z!!! Ive had a few friends who seem to fixing another problem on their z every other week lol.

Guess it's really preference!

Good choice, althou for that much id would have gotten a stockish s14, even better if auto. Looks like they overcharged u silvia taxes there..

Yeah it was definitely a bit steep but I didn't have time to play games and low ball. And all the 240's around here that are "normal" priced are complete buckets that either don't run or barely run. I needed something quick, but I didn't rush.

This.

OP basically paid for what the owner paid for.

The car has a clean exterior but if I had a choice to go with a 14. I would've taken it -- no problem. Camry life is the best life.

Ehh I agree... most of the time the 14s are in better condition especially auto like he said. But I don't really care for the 14 body styling as much as the 13 and plus the 14's are heavier. And when it comes to a car with a puny little 4 cyl weight really matters for performance lol.

[zooopreme]

Ehh I agree... most of the time the 14s are in better condition especially auto like he said. But I don't really care for the 14 body styling as much as the 13 and plus the 14's are heavier. And when it comes to a car with a puny little 4 cyl weight really matters for performance lol.

Lol...you absolutely have no idea what you're talking about.

I didn't realize weight difference for a "daily driver" was that important or added more "performance" benefits.



What happened to reliability in your search for a reliable car?

But like I said, limited on money, time, need a reliable car for work/college. I was just hoping to find a 240 that was in at least decent condition or up to par in what I want.

You were more worried about looking cool than what you wanted --initially. Besides there are little differences between 13 & 14 DOHC's.

And since we're on the topic of "performance", the 14's got a wider and longer wheel base which is beneficial for "performing". 14's have better weight distribution due to it's gas tank placement also used when "performing".

So back to your initial post, you really chose the better car to squeeze the last ounce of "performance benefits" didn't you?

You're going to end up spending more money on an older S-Chassis than a newer one that was not abused. But hey, it was your money. You over paid, I didn't.

[JdmDrift4Food]

Lol who worries about performance in a stock daily driver..

[need2speed94]

Keep it coming :) You guys must be really successful acting like you know it all... please tell me how to get far in life so I can troll on forums!

[greenwood]

lay off his sack.

I like the 13 that you picked up congrats. coupes are bad ass.

and a nice performing dd is where it's at.

[AndyG]

^ ya good decision with the s13.

[JdmDrift4Food]

Dont get snappy. Your the one who posted a stupid question online. Make your own decisions in life, THAT'S how you will get far sense you asked. And greenwood.. a nice performing dd is where whats at? Where young teens rallying around in stock cars thinking they are fast and switching lanes, revving their motors, and causing dangerous situations for family's and other smart, normal drivers on the road are at?? Keep it on the track, you aren't impressing anyone. Just making yourself look like a selfish, douche bag dumbass.. Thats not appointed to anyone by the way.. Just making a point.

[zooopreme]

Keep it coming :) You guys must be really successful acting like you know it all... please tell me how to get far in life so I can troll on forums!

No, I'm actually just a 12 year old hobo that steals internet from McDonalds & Starbucks or wherever it's free. I actually don't really own a S13, I just like to flame on people who deserve it.

Like I said before in your pointless thread, you overpaid on the inferior chassis that probably has seen more abuse than your asshole in your PE class. I have not. So who wins in life? Me in your LS1 6 speed Camaro stealing your wifi & all. YEE-HAW!

[ixfxi]

delete thread..........

[greenwood]

Cool story bro :wan:

[need2speed94]

Snappy? If I recall you just called me a douchebag and a dumbass lol... don't put that crap on my thread at least!.. if you feel the need to make yourself look tough over the internet just send me a message with your sh*talk! :) Leave the thread free for people that have a sense of decency and want to be productive man. Gotta grow up sometime, I don't care how much older you are than me. Back to the topic though :) got the S13 and I'm happy !!!

[JdmDrift4Food]

Oh........ did you read? That wasnt pointed towards you bud. Wasnt pointed towards anyone. I was proving a point. But I guess you couldn't comprehend that. Let me put it in simpler terms.. I am not here to call names or make fun of you. Just stating it was kind of pointless that you created this thread. Have fun braggin your new 240 up and performing on the streets while driving to work. Make sure you remove all the weight of interior for best performance, including windshield, brakes, doors, and tranny. You dont need that shit.

[zooopreme]

Have fun braggin your new 240 up and performing on the streets while driving to work. Make sure you remove all the weight of interior for best performance, including windshield, brakes, doors, and tranny. You dont need that shit.

Weight reduction at it's finest.

:keke:

[need2speed94]

Well I want a fun DD? Have you never heard of having a car that you can drive to/from work/school reliably that is actually fun? Sorry I don't want to have a Civic and sorry I don't want to have a 10 second Camaro. PLENTY of people have DD's that have performance mods. For you to say otherwise and mock what I say about it is ignorant to say the least. Next time you see a car with performance mods driving on the street or commuting I expect you to tell the guy he's an idiot. Because apparently that's not common or logical :tweak:

[JasianBlazin]

don't half the users here own "street cars"? isn't that red kouki s14 that's been featured in a mag and everyone gets wet over just a street car? not everyone drags or drift. oh and this thread is still stupid.

[JdmDrift4Food]

I do call them idiots.. I mostly laugh at their spray painted bodies with the wings and vinyl stickers though. Its also quite amusing to watch the body roll when they turn corners really fast with stock suspension. And its very cool how they rattle my windows when they are next to me with their loud "systems" bumpin. Guess thats a fun dd though.. Anyways, I think Ive proved my point and you already bought a sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet silvia front s13 thats sweet. Did I mention its sweet? Oh ya. You win. You proved to EVERYONE on this forum that you're awesome, and can own a 240 too.. Sorry if this rant annoys you, I am just getting sick of this whole "drift scene" and all the teens trading in their eclipses, civics, accords, and bla bla bla for a 240 cause its what eveeeeeeeeeeeeeryone is doing.. Have a nice day.

[Pasttellmason]

Id get the s13

[Kuma]

^ The real question is; would you read halfway through the thread to see he already got the s13 before posting?

[zooopreme]

Well I want a fun DD? Have you never heard of having a car that you can drive to/from work/school reliably that is actually fun? Sorry I don't want to have a Civic and sorry I don't want to have a 10 second Camaro. PLENTY of people have DD's that have performance mods. For you to say otherwise and mock what I say about it is ignorant to say the least. Next time you see a car with performance mods driving on the street or commuting I expect you to tell the guy he's an idiot. Because apparently that's not common or logical :tweak:

Just stop replying back & you won't hear/see anything from me.

You made this pointless thread asking to be treated like a child & that's what several members have done to you, including myself.

You pointed out where you stood on your car search: a reliable car that is going to be easy to maintain. A previous member made it clear to you that he's seen the car and said it was overpriced and not worth the money.

You made yourself even more stupid when you turned down the better non abused chassis and decided that everybody else is a hater for not agreeing with you.

And then you bought it and proceeded to brag about a chassis that everybody on this forum has. Lol.

So tell me...what was the point of this thread?

And since you continue to spew out stupidity: quote my post that says that I have distaste for "performance" modifications.

I insulted you for your ignorance for a car that is going to be on daily driving duties. No where in your thread did you really think about "performance". Your exact words were:

Ehh I agree... most of the time the 14s are in better condition especially auto like he said. But I don't really care for the 14 body styling as much as the 13 and plus the 14's are heavier. And when it comes to a car with a puny little 4 cyl weight really matters for performance lol.

What you really said was:

Meh, I'd rather roll through the mall and look cool for all the prepubescent girls (and MAYBE, just maybe, get laid) than pick the car that fit all of my initial criteria for a good car. But my decision came down to the weight of the car, I wouldn't want the chassis that is more rigid and balanced for the track. I'd rather look cool.

So please, enlighten me more. I'm at work right now & I'm just about finished up with floor plans. I've got all the time in the world.

[need2speed94]

Zoopree you are trying too hard and I didn't even bother reading the book you just wrote in your reply box lol.... As for everyone else, yes I got the S13. And I am not aiming to drift. I'm not putting on a shitty body kit and have bondo all over it because I've wrecked so much. The paint on the car is immaculate and I plan to keep it like that. All I plan to do is springs/struts, wheels/tires, maybe a header, and some interior stuff. Nothing fancy and nothing too expensive.

[na12uto]

NEITHER OF THESES CARS ARE FAST YOU WANTED A FAST CAR RIGHT????? honestly if you have a decent job use that 3500 for a down payment on a z33

[JdmDrift4Food]

I'm not putting on a shitty body kit and have bondo all over it because I've wrecked so much... All I plan to do is springs/struts, wheels/tires, maybe a header, and some interior stuff. Nothing fancy and nothing too expensive.

Uhh you make it sound like springs/struts, painted interior panels, and a header are so much better than a body kit and bondo.. am I reading this right?? Lol I must ask, what wheels are you planning on buying? (Very scared I asked that) Also.. you forgot, you really need a cold air intake.. That adds like 50ish horsepower so Ive heard. Which is perfect in a puny little 4 cylinder and a heavy ass s13 that obviously weighs more than your ls1 camaro.
Also, I call bullshit that you didnt read Zooopreme's response. All you do is care about what people think, so I know you read it, worried what he thought about you...

Ps: Maybe you should stop posting...

[theericsmith]

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[HellaDough]

ZX really hoe?

[need2speed94]

Uhh you make it sound like springs/struts, painted interior panels, and a header are so much better than a body kit and bondo.. am I reading this right?? Lol I must ask, what wheels are you planning on buying? (Very scared I asked that) Also.. you forgot, you really need a cold air intake.. That adds like 50ish horsepower so Ive heard. Which is perfect in a puny little 4 cylinder and a heavy ass s13 that obviously weighs more than your ls1 camaro.
Also, I call bullshit that you didnt read Zooopreme's response. All you do is care about what people think, so I know you read it, worried what he thought about you...

Ps: Maybe you should stop posting...

No thank you lol, I'm not reading anything he posts so he can go ahead and waste his time! :mrmeph:

[JdmDrift4Food]

LOL at you and both the threads you started (How will this fit? *Noob*). Seriously... do research, use google, and make your own decisions. Wow.. kids these days.. How hard can this shit honestly be?

[need2speed94]

I am doing research... That's the whole reason I am even on the forum like we all are lol?

[Kuma]

I am doing research... That's the whole reason I am even on the forum like we all are lol?

IDK about you, but I'm here to ask people which bucket I should buy. Phuck researching... Everything's already been done, so has the research... So I'm just here to ask the people who have already researched what I should do with my life.

[fyneyoungstunna]

You bunch of tubby bitches. Wipe your vajayjays, put your ovaries away, and go make me a fucking sammich. And QUIT bitching about this thread. If you dont like it then go press a shirt or some shit. Fucking females, I swear.

Z33, over a z32....are you serious? they don't even deserve to wear the Z badge.
370 is almost back on track but still a cry in the dark....

Op: most of the monkeys on here don't understand that some people don't want a street rocket with 600bajillion hp. that a simple car with good handling and upgraded supension can be all you need to "enjoi" a good drive.

I for one have a stock z32, and had a swapped 200sx. its cool to have one of each sometimes.

[zooopreme]

You bunch of tubby bitches. Wipe your vajayjays, put your ovaries away, and go make me a fucking sammich. And QUIT bitching about this thread. If you dont like it then go press a shirt or some shit. Fucking females, I swear.

Z33, over a z32....are you serious? they don't even deserve to wear the Z badge.
370 is almost back on track but still a cry in the dark....

Op: most of the monkeys on here don't understand that some people don't want a street rocket with 600bajillion hp. that a simple car with good handling and upgraded supension can be all you need to "enjoi" a good drive.

I for one have a stock z32, and had a swapped 200sx. its cool to have one of each sometimes.

Bumping a thread that was on it's way out & provide info two days late.

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Good one.

[fyneyoungstunna]

your still being an emotional bitch, and I still don't have a sammich in my hand.

BAD one chick, bad one.