View Full Version : E30 SR20det swap Thailand drift build
tunermt
04-24-2012, 10:50 PM
Update, went out for Midnight cruise through Bangkok with some friends in their wild rides.
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Also go to do some skids in the car and damn this thing is twitchy with 265's and such a short wheel base!
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Update, practicing launching in the car has been fun.
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https://brewedmotors.com/image/data/blogs/e30/e30-2018-updates/e30-tube-front-local-low.jpg
Finally got around to snapping a few pictures of my project out here in Bangkok.
Check out the Blog for details and a little write up. Flex Fuel SR20det swap BMW E30 (http://brewedmotors.com/blog/brewed-thailand-bmw-e30-sr20det-powered-circuit-toy.html)
I will try and keep it to mostly pictures and video here on the forum ;) Of course please feel free to ask any questions, always happy to help out if possible.
Super short build list: BIG thanks to Alex at Brewed Motorsports (www.BrewedMotors.com) for getting all my parts safely shipped in one package to Thailand!
2dr E30
s14 SR20det
AEM Infinity 508 Flex Fuel tuning (http://brewedmotorsports.com/site/tune_AEM_EMS_v2_tuning_e_mapping_etune_ecu_map_con version_large_maf_ID_scalling_dyno_testing_results _engine_managment_system.html)
ID1000cc injectors
O44 bosch fuel pump
E85 ~25-30psi on the S15 turbo **buddy gave me an evo 8 turbo so i used that over the gt28**
BC sports coilovers 8k front
E36 rack
E46 front control arms
Sparco seat
Complete E34 subframe
Rear coilover conversion 6k springs
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-NE_Jqrp9uUs/T31uUQNkCqI/AAAAAAAABTU/Izji0rSoQzs/s640/Brewed_sr20_bmw_up.JPG
Coming from the states where i have every tool imaginable at my finger tips this little project is tacking me back to my roots!
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-I-hnTRpqsGs/T31t49-8VdI/AAAAAAAABTE/3au0tqf9LOw/s640/Brewed_sr20_bmw_swap.JPG
I am still waiting on most of the parts to get this thing finished up and on the road. But here are a couple things that have already arrived ;) The Big package of electronics and fuel parts from Brewed should be arriving in about 5 days. Just hope customs doesn't rape me on this one!
rgztmalv
04-25-2012, 10:47 AM
Looks like it's gonna be a pretty sick project.
SR20Driftking4lyf
04-25-2012, 11:07 AM
25-30psi on an S15 turbo?
ralphandthequeen
04-25-2012, 11:18 AM
i miss Thailand.. so much fun. and looks like a nice ride. keep updating!
tunermt
04-25-2012, 10:57 PM
25-30psi on an S15 turbo?
It will make the boost and good power in the mid range however I will need to taper the boost down to ~20 by redline.
(this set up makes for a FAT torque curve on a little SR20, very nice for sliding)
Oh and a pic of the wheels i'm leaning towards at the moment, 16x9 20mm will more than likely still need some spacers though.
http://www.bmwsociety.com/classifieds/images/221149.JPG
onehundredoctane
04-26-2012, 04:43 AM
Do work eric!
jr_ss
04-26-2012, 05:23 AM
I'd request this get moved otherwise lock down I foresee... A lot of people swapping SR's into BMW's lately.
keeeban
04-26-2012, 04:34 PM
the things I would do to have a place like that.
tunermt
04-26-2012, 10:26 PM
Thanks for the kind words guys, i was planning to have some updates and be driving a bit by now but BC Sports Thailand just told me yet another few days until my 51mm front lower coilover mounts clear customs...
tunermt
06-09-2012, 01:56 AM
Well the post office finally got me the big box of treats Brewed Motors sent out 2 months ago!
Just yanked out the S14 SR engine harness and started labeling/cleaning things up in preparation for the AEM EMS install and tuning.
Pictures of the finished harness coming soon.
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/599144_425485537481718_903503214_n.jpg
All cleaned up ;)
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-nujl4w90NjY/UBqeHKueYSI/AAAAAAAABoo/4hgugrU3SrE/s512/bmw_swap_sr20det_wiring.jpg
KravingAKouki
06-10-2012, 01:57 PM
the things I would do to have a place like that.
haha yea i totally agree. but if i had a place that big id want a lift knowing id have the room. jacks and jack stands are such a pita sometimes
tunermt
06-11-2012, 08:35 AM
Haha the car was on jack stands 10ft I'm front of a lift that no longer worked. That shop is about 300 meters from my apartment and was a body shop that closed after the terrible floods out here last year. The owner is super nice and offered me space to tinker with the car until the new location in Bangkok is ready.
future
06-11-2012, 08:44 AM
So a s15 can do 25-30lbs now? Thats something new
Sileighty_85
06-11-2012, 11:50 AM
It will make the boost and good power in the mid range however I will need to taper the boost down to ~20 by redline.
(this set up makes for a FAT torque curve on a little SR20, very nice for sliding)
http://www.bmwsociety.com/classifieds/images/221149.JPG
I would like vids of a OEM S15 T28 boosting 30psi.
Then an update of said turbo after 3 events.
tunermt
06-12-2012, 12:52 AM
remember my friends 25-30psi will only be in the mid range, to remain "safe" tapering the boost back down to the 20psi range by red line is a must.
For example (RUFF example don't quote these #s they are just an example, stock SR with S15 turbo) at say 4500 rpm and 20psi the shaft speed would be ~100k rpm but by 7k eng rpm and 20psi the shaft speed will increase to ~130k rpm (engine is moving more air the turbo must work harder to keep up)
At 4500 eng rpm and ~28psi the shaft speed will be ~130k rpm, by tapering the boost back down to ~20psi by 7k eng rpm you can maintain a similar/safe shaft speed. As apposed to forcing ~28psi at 7k eng rpm causing the shaft speed to sky rocket to 150-200K rpm + of course trying to hold to much boost all the way to redline with a small turbo will also cause intake temps to sky rocket ;)
Don't get me wrong this is not easy on a turbo but if you keep a close eye on everything and don't get greedy it is a great way to make some extra torque as long as your fuel can support it. (high octane to avoid detonation)
Unfortunately i will not have a shaft speed sensor on this turbo to show you all exact #s but this should give you an idea.
I will however be happy to post up AIT, boost, rpm data to help shed some light on this.
Don't get me wrong this is not gods gift to tuning small turbos but it does work quite well its just a matter of finding the "sweet spot" which very well may be 25psi tapered to 18psi.
haha notice i did say 25-30 yet 30 is the only # anyone repeats ;)
Sileighty_85
06-12-2012, 08:20 AM
I dont know if you know something we dont know, but the max power and boost that turbo can put out safely and reliable is 300ish hp at 16psi.
anything past 16 is past its efficient range and it will grenade. I know this because Ive had friends that have been tuned and ran that turbo at 18-19 psi and the bearings shit themselves. then another one that his boost controller crapped out and was running 21-23 psi and after a 3 weeks was a substantial increase in shaft play.
future
06-12-2012, 08:41 AM
Yeah there is no way it will make that much boost.
cbcm2435
06-12-2012, 08:53 PM
i trust that eric knows what he is talking about. he tuned my car, and i run 18-19psi on my t28 daily for probably 6-7 months now, including a 1500 mile trip when i moved to PA. and i checked my turbo the other day while i had it off and its still good to go.
Sileighty_85
06-13-2012, 12:20 AM
i trust that eric knows what he is talking about. he tuned my car, and i run 18-19psi on my t28 daily for probably 6-7 months now, including a 1500 mile trip when i moved to PA. and i checked my turbo the other day while i had it off and its still good to go.
DD and 1500 mile trips don't mean anything, you're not straining that turbo driving at 2,000 RPM in Vac, unless your running full boost the whole way.
Drifting/tracking a is different story.
tunermt
06-14-2012, 08:12 PM
No worries guys i'll post up details and results, haha i'll be throwing some anti lag at this turbo as well to help make sure it lasts forever ;)
tunermt
07-27-2012, 05:58 AM
Couldn't find an electric shop ANYWHERE in my area (near Bangkok) that had what i needed... or even understood what i needed haha, SO I cannibalized the old gauge cluster i wont be using.
Didn't find the 100 ohm resister that i needed but i did score a 70 ohm and a 30 ohm bing bang boom soldered inline =100 ohm resister!
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/314083_10151004367066553_985555989_n.jpg
onehundredoctane
07-27-2012, 08:58 AM
Is the resistor added to calibrate the speedo?
tunermt
07-28-2012, 07:42 AM
no i pulled the resistors out of the old BMW gauge cluster (my dash will consist of 1 AEM serial gauge, shift/rpm lights and MAYBE a tach)
The Alternator has power, ground, and a 2 pin connector (voltage sensor wire and the wire that runs to the dash warning light).
I don't have the nissan dash or warning light/led from the dash so i had to use a 100 ohm resistor for this wire before the Alt would start to put out any voltage.
tunermt
07-29-2012, 01:23 AM
So preliminary tuning, just giving the map a bit more head room for some extra boost and RPM :)
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/544385_446992031997735_1396947901_n.jpg
ShadowMan
07-29-2012, 05:14 PM
Coming along nciely Eric. Can't wait to see it in action.
Nismo11
07-29-2012, 10:14 PM
Sick project bro!
tunermt
07-30-2012, 02:06 AM
some more goodies from America ;)
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/255241_447555741941364_297531006_n.jpg
Was planning to finish up the front half of the chassis wiring harness today but to damn busy with a few E-Tunes.
tunermt
07-31-2012, 04:38 AM
Fuse box and start switch all wired in and mounted on top of a little sticker bomb action ;)
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-x_GcrJIRA1U/UBe1OuxRV_I/AAAAAAAABnc/uZ8QjKL6AQU/s640/sticker_bomb_fuse_box.jpg
tunermt
08-01-2012, 09:13 AM
pulled apart the front half of the chassis harness to make sure the engine bay won't be cluttered up by anything i don't want to look at haha
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-66lhGImvoBk/UBe1EtfatdI/AAAAAAAABm8/9nylwx09fug/s512/Chassis_harness.jpg
tunermt
08-02-2012, 09:39 AM
Engine harness all cleaned up and back where it belongs.
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-nujl4w90NjY/UBqeHKueYSI/AAAAAAAABoo/4hgugrU3SrE/s512/bmw_swap_sr20det_wiring.jpg
tunermt
08-26-2012, 06:51 PM
Just finished up the front 3rd of the chassis harness.
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ROBnvPL3euo/UDrB7ZlIVBI/AAAAAAAABpE/D_CfWqdNM04/s512/Chassis_harness.jpg
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-CFkzxzT2WAM/UDrB1wUCaWI/AAAAAAAABo8/BtMlZ9EWVcs/s576/sr20_e30_swap_chassis_harness.jpg
ShadowMan
08-26-2012, 07:52 PM
Coming along nicely Eric. The wiring harness looks top notch.
tunermt
08-27-2012, 08:20 AM
spending far to much time wiring these days, here's a pic from the Buddy Club Thailand DC5 i just finished up.
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-JUp0mfh3Ywk/UDt9HTdnSBI/AAAAAAAABp4/nKfOcAJFEl4/s512/K20_dc5_circuit_car_wiring.jpg
g00se
08-29-2012, 01:03 PM
Dope build! I was just given a e30 (barely running) and was wondering if you are running custom mounts? I am thinking of throwing my KA into it as it was leftover from my ls1 swap.
I was looking at these sr20 ebay mounts for the e30 but they look pretty shoddy.
drscooper
08-29-2012, 01:49 PM
dam that is great stuff man! keep up the good work!!
tunermt
08-30-2012, 08:35 AM
Ya custom mounts, shoot me a pm I could easily whip up another set of nice tig welded mounts.
g00se
09-01-2012, 08:33 PM
Down thanks! How are you planning on wiring it? are you keeping the stock gauges?
tunermt
09-02-2012, 03:34 AM
My dash will just consist on an aem serial gauge and possibly a couple shift/rpm reference lights. I will throw a tach in if I stumble upon the right one.
mpact1981
09-02-2012, 05:55 AM
just seeing the word "Thailand" in the title instantly brought back memories... lol
Nice build! Be careful driving on those streets though. Craziest drivers I've ever seen in my life around there
Kingbaby
09-02-2012, 06:05 AM
Memories
*Grabs testicles*
in for more...
1gr8bar10der
09-02-2012, 10:33 PM
Subscribed. Missing Bangkok so much!
tunermt
09-04-2012, 12:24 AM
haha yes Thailand is a damn fun place to be.
Kriskouki
09-09-2012, 08:35 AM
Wow......I am subscribed to this build.......
tunermt
09-13-2012, 04:09 AM
update will be coming soon, i need to get my slide on! Been crazy busy with the DC5 circuit car just pulled a 24 hour track prep day, corner balanced, bit more wiring of accessories and new gadgets, fuel system, aero, fallowed by some dyno tuning. On the way to the track now for the real testing :)
eldine30
09-16-2012, 07:58 PM
this is awesome man, i wish i could finish my e30 sr20 project. :/
i have a e30 sr20 FOR SALE ready custom Chasebay wiring harness e30 to sr20det READY! plug and play they did a great job.
also have custom motor mounts, tranny mounts and driveshaft and a redtop sr20 complete swap with a 2door shell FS
tunermt
11-15-2012, 10:35 PM
Tie rod spacers almost finished up.
using E46 lower control arms, e36 rack and tie rods (inner and outer)
http://sphotos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/318925_487406061289665_1971467019_n.jpg
Oakville
11-16-2012, 04:53 PM
very nice!
and pardon the noob question, what brings you to thailand? stationed?
tunermt
11-17-2012, 04:20 AM
I wanted to live here and build race cars so here I am ;) haha.
(note i am not refering to my e30, my e30 is NO race car)
tunermt
12-26-2012, 09:27 AM
Removed a good portion of the front chassis, looking forward to taking delivery of my Ar. gas this week to get my weld on!
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-tgUD0yHTxl0/UNsfMf4oxzI/AAAAAAAABvw/cFB5SPLkbtE/s400/brewed+e30+chassis+fabrication+drift.JPG
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-8Hc3okahg-k/UNseYAJAsmI/AAAAAAAABvw/Fi5v8ROy_ko/s400/Brewed+E30+build+front+chassis+fabrication.JPG
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-A50T_cXDrOo/UNseyWzjJLI/AAAAAAAABvw/OGaJVUSGrvs/s400/brewed+AC+BMW+drift+car+air+conditioning.JPG
cxlumpy
12-30-2012, 01:33 PM
i want to see this thing run now!
tunermt
01-07-2013, 08:21 AM
Base for the seat
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-i2FMP6tMf88/UOriA_x69bI/AAAAAAAABwg/6NUMHQ9RwQs/s400/bmw+bucket+seat+mount.JPG
tunermt
12-29-2013, 09:04 AM
recently had some time to add some strength and caster adjustment to the front strut mounts.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-8kFHQugr0LE/UsBEcgvCwfI/AAAAAAAADGI/TqAqXIcY46c/s400/Brewed-motors-chassis-fabrication.jpg
tunermt
12-30-2013, 09:15 AM
deleted sh*ty iphone picture, better pics next post
tunermt
01-12-2014, 01:42 AM
More metal...
Front strut towers
Tubes to front frame rail
Tubes to lower frame rail under drivers/passengers feet. *still need to add gussets to a few places on these*
Repair/re-enforce/replace frame rails
Added "sub frame connectors (these basically run wheel to wheel (front to back) along the pinch welds and have a few cross bars) *will be incorporating trans mount and drive shaft hoop in the cross bars*
Sheet metal patch/re-enforcement **as you can see in the pictures rear of the front wheel wells still need some sheet metallove**
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-nNPMsokPXOs/Us6wh7xoM8I/AAAAAAAADGo/Tk77oGGJ35I/s1600/e30-sr20-circuit-drifter-chassis-fab.JPG
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-GHzm3fFpOS4/Us6wi-GLVrI/AAAAAAAADG0/DHCMNbfgms0/s1600/e30-sr20-front-strut-tower-brewed-crew.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-tdQSfHOxfnk/Us6wi2KFXBI/AAAAAAAADGw/Z3ZuR9QFEYc/s1600/e30-sr20-drift-build-chassis-fab.JPG
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-8Q826Z2LI_I/Us6wlMCGojI/AAAAAAAADHA/S9hgohal9J8/s1600/e30-sr20-suspension-fabrication-brewed-crew.jpg
tunermt
01-01-2015, 02:14 AM
this one shows how the tubes are set up for the front strut towers, sheet metal is not quite done yet though.
http://brewedmotors.com/image/data/blogs/e30/e3019r.jpg
tunermt
01-25-2015, 09:06 PM
E34 complete subframe swapped in along with rear coilover set up.
https://brewedmotors.com/image/data/blogs/e30/e30-rear-coilover-coversion.jpg
https://brewedmotors.com/image/data/blogs/e30/rear-coilover-conversion-e30-mount.jpg
https://brewedmotors.com/image/data/blogs/e30/rear-coilover-conversion-e30.jpg
I also had some time to start on the cooling system, still have to add a few breather fittings/lines before she's complete :)
https://brewedmotors.com/image/data/blogs/e30/custom-ve-dual-pass-radiator.jpg
https://brewedmotors.com/image/data/blogs/e30/VE-coolant-swirl-pot.jpg
https://brewedmotors.com/image/data/blogs/e30/velocity-element-coolant-swirl-pot.jpg
tunermt
10-13-2015, 12:08 AM
Almost play time!
https://brewedmotors.com/image/data/blogs/e30/tube-chassis-fabrication-brewedmotors.jpg
https://brewedmotors.com/image/data/blogs/e30/brewedmotors-BMW-drift-car-VE-race-gas.jpg
tunermt
07-17-2016, 06:15 PM
So the Velocity Element Sr20det Intake manifold on my car was an early prototype, looks like its finally available to public.
https://brewedmotors.com/velocity-element/ve-sr20det-s14-s15-intake-manifold
tunermt
09-25-2018, 05:23 AM
https://brewedmotors.com/image/data/blogs/AEM-fuel-pressure-install/1-ID-injector-services-fuel-rail-off.jpg
https://brewedmotors.com/image/data/blogs/AEM-fuel-pressure-install/6-aem-fuelP-sensor-teflon-tape.jpg
https://brewedmotors.com/image/data/blogs/AEM-fuel-pressure-install/9-aem-fuelP-sensor-fitting-adapter-4-rail-on.jpg
s13silvia123
09-25-2018, 05:46 AM
you're in Thailand, you aren't you near any floods from the monsoon?
tunermt
09-26-2018, 07:56 PM
Monsoon did not effect Thailand that much (not in the path of the storm). It is rainy season though and ya Bangkok is built on a swamp at sea level so it does flood often in many areas around the city.
240msh
10-01-2018, 04:33 PM
Im here to see the s15 t28, subbed
tunermt
10-01-2018, 09:01 PM
Im here to see the s15 t28, subbed
AHHH i was gifted an EVO 8 turbo from a friend and built a manifold for it instead of the T28. (I prefer the twin scroll housing on the Mitsu turbo for this particular build so the free turbo was hard to say no to).
tunermt
10-02-2018, 09:57 PM
Little teaser of the AEM CD5 dash, i'll get some more detailed videos to show off all the custom dash designs i've been working on for the little SR20 in this thing.
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tunermt
10-05-2018, 04:01 AM
photos updated
https://brewedmotors.com/image/data/blogs/e30/e30-2018-updates/E30-sr20-infinity-ems-brewed-built.jpg
tunermt
01-12-2019, 07:03 PM
https://brewedmotors.com/image/data/blogs/e30/e30-2018-updates/e30-tube-front-local-low.jpg
tunermt
03-17-2020, 05:46 AM
https://brewedmotorsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/e30-sr20det-Brewed-tuned-infinity-1536x1021.jpg
https://brewedmotorsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Velocity-element-sr20det-intake-manifold.jpg
Updated the blog with some details and pics! https://brewedmotorsports.com/sr20det-swapped-bmw-e30-aem-infinity-on-e85/
da_crew10
03-18-2020, 07:31 AM
FMUF this is rad!
tunermt
05-16-2020, 02:56 AM
Been driving the car around the new neighborhood and got a couple pics :)
https://brewedmotorsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/bmw-e30-BC-coilovers-18x10-advan-1204x800.jpg
https://brewedmotorsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/bmw-e30-BC-coilovers-1257x800.jpg
tunermt
06-25-2020, 04:03 AM
Getting to play with the car practicing some launches, still need to lower boost in 1st and 2nd but 3rd is ready for more!
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tunermt
08-07-2020, 09:53 PM
Playing around with the go pro for a little beach cruise
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PoorMans180SX
08-11-2020, 09:57 AM
Cool project and setup you've got here. I've never seen a dual pass radiator setup ran in that fashion, does it seem to be cooling well?
tunermt
08-12-2020, 03:21 AM
Cool project and setup you've got here. I've never seen a dual pass radiator setup ran in that fashion, does it seem to be cooling well?
Ya it works great but i would do both inlet/outlet on the bottom next time around to make it more stealthy haha ;)
tunermt
10-13-2020, 06:52 PM
Plug n Play harness option now available for all S13, S14 and S15 SR20det to AEM Infinity ecu's
SR20det to AEM Infinity plug n play harnesses for all RWD s13, s14, s15 and VVL sr20ve engines. (https://brewedmotorsports.com/product/electronics/ecu-harnesses-and-sensors/velocity-element-racing-products/sr20det-aem-infinity-ecu-plug-play-harness-s13-s14-s15/)
https://brewedmotorsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/e30-sr20det-swap.jpg
tunermt
05-19-2021, 01:09 AM
Update, went out for Midnight cruise through Bangkok with some friends in their wild rides.
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Also go to do some skids in the car and damn this thing is twitchy with 265's and such a short wheel base!
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