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Flicktitty

07-01-2010, 01:05 PM

It doesn't seem like it is done too much here stateside seems more in other parts of the world.

Anyone have any HARD information on what is needed with this swap?
Does anyone make a motor/trans mount kit for these? i've looked around a little and can't seem to find any that are for sale, there all just custom one off kits.

I have someone who can do the wiring on the car, i just don't have the fabrication skills to make the motor mounts.

any year 1UZ's better then other years? i know a few companies that make performance parts for them. i don't plan to make a whole bunch of power out of it, just something that will be fun and reliable. and i'd like to keep with the Toyota powered Nissan stuff lol.

raz0rbladez909

07-01-2010, 01:09 PM

from what i recall there is not a real aftermarket for it, it only comes auto, and really costs too much for a motor thats not really performance oriented, just seems like a bad idea unless you have really good fab skills or a shop to get something like this started

Flicktitty

07-01-2010, 01:16 PM

Well, there is a aftermarket for these, they make stuff for the heads (valves,springs,retainers,etc) they do camshafts,pistons,rods,Individual throttle bodies,etc. so there is a good amount, also they make adapter plates to run the V160/R154/W58/Z33 6spd,etc. so it would could be 5/6speed if need be.

Mangudai

07-01-2010, 06:34 PM

I believe there is a member on FA that has this swap, I also know of an Australian website that sells aftermarket parts for it.

dontxploitme

07-01-2010, 06:40 PM

1uz in an s chassis sounds like gold to me. full of win. and 1uz's are actually kinda cheap too bad i don't have any info on that for you but good luck if you try

VQMaxFan

07-01-2010, 09:50 PM

There should be a guy on nico with it. I remember a few years ago i went to one of the nopi shows and at the nico booth there was a 1UZ swapped car. Lol 90% of the people didn't know what engine it was.

Flicktitty

07-01-2010, 09:53 PM

i have found alot of parts for the motor/trans/etc. i'm just looking for any info on putting it in the actual car. i pretty much just wanna do a mid 300whp 1UZ and that kind of power in a SC/LS really isn't gonna move the car too good. so why not put it in a S-Chassis.

jr_ss

07-02-2010, 06:49 PM

Check out tamparacing.com, scroll down in the forums section to Nissan and go into the build thread. There's a member named AgentAndy that just did this very swap into an S13.

Flicktitty

12-21-2010, 08:10 PM

Just going to bump this thread.

As i have been doing alot of research over the last few months on doing this setup. i think come this spring i will be pulling the trigger on doing this build, so look forward to that coming later.

anyway. I found that the connecting rods are the major differance between the years of the 1UZ
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/flicktitty/Lexus-Toyota-Rods.jpg
judging by that picture the 89-94 has the strongest OE rods, and that is what most of the people who do this motor in other cars use, But the the 89-94 1UZ-FE is rated at 250hp and 260tq. well i'm not going to go too crazy on this build so i was hoping for some more horsepower from the get go, so i think i will be going with the 1997+ 1UZ-FE with VVTi with 300hp and 310tq. and do a custom set of headers/exhaust/intake and a tune. should be sufficient.

i found that there is a guy in Flordia who is making a swap kit so i will be going with that one i do believe.

just wondering if anyone else has since done this or done any more research on the 1UZ? maybe we can make this a 1uz-s-chassis help thread?

DAPekboosted

12-24-2010, 11:12 AM

if people are serious about this swap, heres the link to convert to a manual tranny. these guys have a kit for the w58 tranny and i belive there almost done with the kit for a r154. News (http://quantum-auto.com/store/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&install_type=update12pl3&vmcchk=1&Itemid=1)

repda916

12-24-2010, 07:10 PM

from Ultimate 1uzfe W58 Conversion Thread! (LOTS OF PICS!) - Club Lexus Forums (http://www.clublexus.com/forums/performance-and-maintenance/422578-ultimate-1uzfe-w58-conversion-thread-lots-of-pics.html)

Main Parts

1uzfe W58 Swap Kit (Quantum-Auto.com) includes the following
-Adapter Plate
-Flywheel (Steel or Aluminum depending how deep your pockets are)
-Pressure Plate
-Full Face DF Clutch
-Clutch Lines
-Howe Bearing Spacer
-Alignment Tool
-Pilot Bearing
-Bolt Kit
-OEM Flywheel bolts

Custom trans/Motor mount for S13

Parts you need to source
W58 Transmission (http://www.clublexus.com/forums/#) from a MK4 Supra OR SC300 - Any year - DO NOT USE AN MK3 Supra W58 unless you know what you are getting yourself into!
Howe 82870 Throwout Bearing

http://mysoarer.com/automotive/w58%20swap/100_0018.jpg

adapter plate to the W58
http://mysoarer.com/automotive/w58%20swap/100_0020.jpg

http://mysoarer.com/automotive/w58%20swap/100_0021.jpg

Take the Automatic bellhousing from the transmission that you just removed and bolt it to the adapter plate. You will see where you have to grind the bellhousing for the couple of bolts that are in the way and part of the front seal cover.

http://mysoarer.com/automotive/w58%20swap/100_0025.jpg

the spacer from the kit
http://mysoarer.com/automotive/w58%20swap/100_0041.jpg

http://mysoarer.com/automotive/w58%20swap/100_0042.jpg

http://mysoarer.com/automotive/w58%20swap/100_0043.jpg

http://mysoarer.com/automotive/w58%20swap/100_0045.jpg

Tantwoforty

12-27-2010, 05:33 PM

the fab work isint too hard just find a local shop to do it.
thats a great engine

shiftdrift

12-27-2010, 05:43 PM

great engine man! would be a nasty car. you parting out the 2j s13 ;) ?

Flicktitty

12-27-2010, 07:48 PM

the fab work isint too hard just find a local shop to do it.
thats a great engine
Yeah, i have considered asking a few local places. i will see what they say and report back, maybe with any luck he would make copies.

great engine man! would be a nasty car. you parting out the 2j s13 ;) ? No sir, the 2JZ S13 is actually getting swapped into a NICER s13 and getting rebuilt. the 1UZ S13 will start this summer once the 2JZ car is back on the street.

here is the current 2JZ-S13 build thread if ya wanna take a peek.
http://zilvia.net/f/chat/223490-2jz-240sx-build-project-300sx.html

s13_rb25

09-20-2011, 10:08 AM

swap1uz.com
ran by Brett Collins. his car is soooo legit. i love it. it runs really healthy and he offers a package for the swap.

Flicktitty

09-21-2011, 01:47 PM

swap1uz.com
ran by Brett Collins. his car is soooo legit. i love it. it runs really healthy and he offers a package for the swap.
I Emailed him a few months ago about making a set of mounts and he never messaged me back. :picardfp:

Do you know if he offers and wiring services or diagrams?

Also with the 1UZ - 5spd stuff using the SR/VQ/KA trans are those adapter prices included?

pinkarrowsnow

09-21-2011, 07:36 PM

hey pm my good buddy on here his name is RPS13drift were doing a 1uz in his s14 and he has alot of info on everything tell him mike told you to talk to him

nismo racer

09-21-2011, 08:56 PM

theres a guy on ebay who sells the full kit for cheap to use ka trans which is the cheapest since the stock drive shaft works with it but he also sells bell housing adapters for w58's and such.

i know if you use your ka trans you can use your clutch disc and get an MR2 pressure plate and flywheel which will need to be machined to bolt up to the 1UZ.

ive also been doing research on this and its stupid how cheap it is to do. surprised no one does this swap more often, there was a guy on nico who did it all under 2g's said n done.

Flicktitty

09-22-2011, 02:58 PM

Flicktitty

09-22-2011, 03:06 PM

Looking aound some more, i found these diagrams on another forum for a 1UZ-FE into a S14.

Anyone know how close this is to a s13?
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/flicktitty/1UZ%20S-Chassis/400sxwiring_Page_1.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/flicktitty/1UZ%20S-Chassis/400sxwiring_Page_2.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/flicktitty/1UZ%20S-Chassis/400sxwiring_Page_3.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/flicktitty/1UZ%20S-Chassis/400sxwiring_Page_4.jpg

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Also came across this, If this is true it could really be made VERY simple to run in a s13.

Now that's the easy part.

EB2 connector is a 3 pin connector and is near the igniter
EB1 connector is a 6 pin connector and is near the igniter
IJ2 connector is 17 pin connector near the ECU is dark gray, has 2 rows of pins.

You need switched power to EB2(2). This is a black and orange wire.
You need switched power to EB2(3). This is a black and red wire
You need switched power to IJ2(11). This is a black and orange wire.

You need constant power to EB1(4). This is a black and yellow wire

To start you need to supply "start" power to EB2(1) which is a black wire.

And of course you need to figure out what it takes to turn your fuel pump on. Different on every vehicle.

Now isn't that EASY!!!!

*I haven't tried any of these wiring diagrams/ideas. So do not ask me about them.

wyteboiii

12-26-2011, 09:16 PM

Any progress?

I've been going to the track with brett for a few years and he's a good dude and a even better driver. Theres a few locals here in central FL who have the swap with his fabbed parts and love them and the swap. My friend Ben sprays his 1uz in his cressida, brett is working on a sc kit and Bill Shermin is actually butting together a TT kit for his 1uz supra. So the motor must be strong, its a toyota. I myself am highly considering going to the j-yard this week to yank one out for the hell of it. I seen somewhere on the web that some stock tundra headers will clear the steering shaft saving a ton of money/time fabbing headers. Agentandy just told me he sells DIY header kits for this swap, I just don't know if it would be a good idea to mig them together with my lincoln pro mig 180...

victorw210

12-27-2011, 03:29 PM

Xat makes parts like mounts n tranny adapters

repda916

12-30-2011, 12:14 PM

Do you have bretts number? Just bought a plate off him but have a question with the flywheel.

getsideways

01-01-2012, 09:32 AM

http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-88612714740256_2181_85984640

BAM!

wyteboiii

01-07-2012, 11:44 PM

/\ thats whatsup /\

His e mail should be on his eBay listing. I know you have to use a mr2 Turbo flywheel/pressure plate and clearance the bolt holes to fit the 1uz crankshaft bolt holes (3sgte?). I think he also makes pilot bearings tob's that go with this trans retro-fit.

SxMachine

01-08-2012, 07:08 AM

Writeup here-->1UZFE S14A project : Hybrids (http://forums.nicoclub.com/1uzfe-s14a-project-t271939.html)

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q260/wattydchi/1UZFE%20Engine%20Bay/P9140082.jpg

rps13drift

01-21-2012, 08:40 AM

hey pm my good buddy on here his name is RPS13drift were doing a 1uz in his s14 and he has alot of info on everything tell him mike told you to talk to him

LOL just seeing this thread! I will also be attemping this swap next month when the transmission adapter for a Z33 6 speed arrives from brett collins. As for the flywheel I just ordered a custom made flywheel designed for the 1uz swap. After doing lots of research about drilling out the bolt holes on the 3stge flywheel its just too sketchy for me. Plus the 1uz swap flywheel wasnt too crazy priced. For the clutch I will be using an ACT mr2 turbo pressure plate with a KA24DE 6 puck clutch disc.
Link to flywheel Modified 3SGTE Flywheel (http://www.1uzfeswapkit.com/Flywheel-For-the-xUZFE-Engines-0000-0008.htm)

I will post more pics after the needed parts arrive and we can start making some progress on the swap.
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd107/rps13drift/6f1ad284.jpg

memphis180sx

02-07-2012, 10:15 PM

repda916

02-08-2012, 01:58 PM

rps13drift

02-08-2012, 05:38 PM

im also doing this swap soon ive been talking to brett to seems like a cool dude does anybody know what flywheel bolts to use if u order a flywheel from these guys
Modified 3SGTE Flywheel (http://www.1uzfeswapkit.com/Flywheel-For-the-xUZFE-Engines-0000-0008.htm) and aslo what headers are those

I actually dont know what bolts to use yet? LOL Wondering if people just use the factory bolts or get stronger bolts? The long tubes are pacesetters from a tundra. They will definetly need to be modified in order to fit.

Dont order that flywheel, its just a modified 5vz (4 runner) flywheel.
just source out a 3sgte flywheel and extend the flywheel bolt pattern along with flipping the ring gear since its backwards, take the flywheel to a legit machinest. i got mine done for $90 and paid $40 for the 3sgte flywheel.

To each their own.lol I recieved the flywheel last week and it looks great! Your right about it being from a 3-5vz (3.0l-3.4l v6) but thats no reason to dissmiss it! It shares the ecact same pressure plate as the 3sgte and also accepts the same r154 sized clutch discs. Just no need to drill because it was engineered to the 1uz's bolt patern and the 5vz has the correct ring gear already. I personally didnt mind paying $70 more than what you paid to have a brand new flywheel that just works out of the box and was made here in the USA.

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd107/rps13drift/b1df6900.jpg

wyteboiii

04-03-2012, 06:10 PM

^Good info^
The IR$ wanted to fuck with me this year so I didn't Start a uz swap :( ........

Yet.....

rps13drift

04-04-2012, 08:27 AM

rps13drift

04-07-2012, 06:50 AM

Also another update. I ended up using a ACT 6 puck clutch disc from an sr20det. The fitment is great!
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd107/rps13drift/e8fe5639.jpg

I also had to have my Z33's trans bellhousing machined down 5/8 of an inch to compensate for the adapter plates thickness.
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd107/rps13drift/8ee001d2.jpg

Z trans mated up
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd107/rps13drift/ec059123.jpg

OBX/ebay Shorty headers for a 4.7L tundra with a 2uz-fe. Passenger side fits perfect after the flange is cut off. Driver side is a different story and is going to be a bitch because of the steering shaft :)
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd107/rps13drift/ac825b1f.jpg

Whipped up some motor mounts(1/8 plate-1.75 tube cut at a 40 degree angle to use oem 1uz engine mount) and also realized how shitty the driver side header is going to be.
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd107/rps13drift/cbfab6c0.jpg

Finally all fitted in place.
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd107/rps13drift/df64229e.jpg

Hope this helps some people out being there isnt much info out there yet. If there is enough interest I will make a more detailed build thread

xBtony

04-07-2012, 11:37 AM

Nice to see this thread is still on going. Still interested in the swap in the future.

Mishkin_707

04-09-2012, 06:52 PM

This made my nipples hard!

Prophet513

04-15-2012, 09:34 PM

flicktitty didn't even realize you had this thread when I was messaging you about the 2jz and 1uz swaps..

I am hoping to go to a junkyard and pull a 1uz within the next month or so. Really excited for this swap.

Although all the videos I've seen are either exhaust sounds or drifting. Wanna see how an s13 with this swap would handle other things

rps13drift

04-16-2012, 06:40 AM

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd107/rps13drift/d563a70d.jpg

Prophet513

04-17-2012, 02:58 PM

How many of you guys think this swap would/could make for a possible DD?

i know the 1uz can be extremely reliable but obviously this is no ordinary 1uz appliance

wyteboiii

04-18-2012, 06:35 PM

I should get my little tax return in a month and I will start my swap then if everything is on the up and up. I'm gonna shoot for a budget around $2,500. I know someone who has done it for under $2,000 (using stock tundra/sequoia exhaust manifolds). Im gonna do a build thread but I'm bad at that kinda stuff. Someone with the skills should do a really detailed one almost like a diy to prove just how easy it really is so we can make this a more of a commin swap.

lilredrex

04-30-2012, 11:43 PM

using a stock 5vz or 3sgte flywheel and a ka/sr/z33 clutch disc&transmission along with oem tundra exhaust manifolds, im sure this swap can be done under a budget cap.

rcdad123

05-01-2012, 05:34 AM

Frank_Jaeger

05-04-2012, 04:01 PM

how will this swap affect the handling of the s13 chassis? i have an SOHC in my 89 hatch and i love the way it handles, but the 1uz swap is very interesting to me. i used to work for a Lexus dealership and i have NEVER seen a blown 1uz. these engines are very reliable. i recommend changing the starter while it`s on an engine stand because they are a pain once it`s in the car.
I'm pretty sure it doesn't weigh much more than the KA24DE. In fact I think they're about the same. There's a link in this thread to another thread on Nicoclub and someone says it there. I wouldn't think it'd affect handling too much.

Stanced

05-07-2012, 07:40 AM

Get onto Facebook and look up Justin barber from Goldsboro, Nc. He did a 5 speed swap on his 1uz into his sc400. I believe he used a mk4 supra tranny. He did it from the ground up as well. He's a huge yota guy and he knows his shit. Sorry it's a outta forum reference but like I said. He's extremely knowledgable about yota/lexus stuff. Here's some pics of his car.
37285
37286

rps13drift

06-20-2012, 05:30 AM

Some more updates/pics of the swap...

Motor is finally in for good
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd107/rps13drift/75bae0f3.jpg
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd107/rps13drift/60033e98.jpg

Modified driverside header to clear steering shaft
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd107/rps13drift/53859db0.jpg
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd107/rps13drift/f559bf3a.jpg
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd107/rps13drift/fd5adb4d.jpg

Prophet513

06-22-2012, 10:50 AM

Wow looks really good!

Be sure to get video covering everything about the performance when you're done ;)

repda916

07-05-2012, 01:31 AM

can you do a right up for wiring?

motorsporttc

07-19-2012, 09:37 AM

Any progress on the swap?

Fries

07-30-2012, 06:58 AM

I was going to go LSx, but I don't think I can pass up $2,000ish swapped for a v8 (even though 256whp is a little low)

Also thought you guys might want to check this out.
Bullet Cars - Supercharger Kits Toyota 1UZFE (http://www.bulletcars.com/superchargers/toyota/1-uzfe-v8-engine-supercharger-system.html)

Bullet supercharged of Australia, offers a m90 supercharger kit ($300-600 used s/c) that would be good to add another 170 or so hp. What are you guys using for engine management for your stuff?

2muchboost

07-30-2012, 10:26 AM

I had followed the S14 swap which was done in the Red Kouki years ago and was wondering if the swap was going to catch anyone else's attention. Glad this setup is becoming more popular since as noted, the motor is an absolute charm in stock form. I myself have also not seen one blown and I have known a couple of older gear heads who were all about Toyota power.

z2roll4life7

08-01-2012, 03:40 PM

I'm going to pull this motor out of a ls400 TODAY! I cant beat the price 300 bucks, she has 180k her but from everyone i talked to that's nonething. I'm going to put my SR transmission on the back of her and keep her mostly stock. I have a nitrous kit sitting in the closet. I may just hook that up and plumb a 100 shot then call it a day.

Over-Rev

08-13-2012, 04:30 PM

I just finished a S13 with a 98 VVTI engine. If you need anything let me know, Ive done a majority of the 1UZ to W56/R154 swaps in the N-Bay.

wyteboiii

09-17-2012, 08:07 AM

Did you use a crown ecu or how did you bypass the key start interlock immobilizer thingy? Also want to know what parts you used in your swap and HP if you got any ideas. I know the gs400's were rated at 300 crank so maybe 300whp with headers n full exhaust?

future

09-17-2012, 12:34 PM

So now I'm pretty set on selling all my lsX swap parts to fund finishing th rest of my car. Then save after that for a 1uz swap

Drifting Kalamari

01-27-2013, 09:57 PM

Updates? I'm going this route now! Selling my KA soooon!!

Flicktitty

01-29-2013, 10:05 AM

I just finished a S13 with a 98 VVTI engine. If you need anything let me know, Ive done a majority of the 1UZ to W56/R154 swaps in the N-Bay.

Very cool!

I always thought a VVTI UZ would be an awesome setup.

Flicktitty

02-03-2013, 09:59 PM

Does anyone have more information yet on a wiring how to?

Jifter

02-09-2013, 08:21 AM

Im planning on doing this swap into my S13 coupe. Does anyone have more info on running the KADE trany? I just need to know what flywheel, clutch, bearing to run. I have a fresh white bunny clutch and flywheel for my KADE sitting here that I'd like to use.

rcdad123

02-10-2013, 03:50 AM

Jifter

02-10-2013, 06:37 AM

Thanks!
Do you know about the pilot bushing? And the drive shaft wouldn't need to be shortened or lengthened if I run a KA trany correct?

rcdad123

02-10-2013, 03:51 PM

Thanks!
Do you know about the pilot bushing? And the drive shaft wouldn't need to be shortened or lengthened if I run a KA trany correct?

pilot bushing needs to be made as far as i know. some one might be selling them though. as far as the trans and drive shaft, if you stick with the ka, no mods required. although i read about the throw out bearing falling off the sleeve due to over extension, i think if the ka trans bell housing gets machined so that the same thickness of the adapter can be removes, it might fix the issue. not sure though.

Jifter

02-10-2013, 06:33 PM

pilot bushing needs to be made as far as i know. some one might be selling them though. as far as the trans and drive shaft, if you stick with the ka, no mods required. although i read about the throw out bearing falling off the sleeve due to over extension, i think if the ka trans bell housing gets machined so that the same thickness of the adapter can be removes, it might fix the issue. not sure though.

Oh alright. I'll try to findout about the bearing issue.

I have done a bit of searching on google and ebay and local classifieds for a toyota 3v or 5v flywheel but I had no luck. What engine/car/truck do these some in?

I appreciate the help
Jake

rcdad123

02-10-2013, 08:02 PM

toyota trucks from 93 till 05 maybe. 3v is 3.0 and 5v is 3.4 dohc v6

Jifter

02-11-2013, 03:38 PM

oh alright thanks!

Jifter

02-24-2013, 01:12 PM

Alright I have been searching for the flywheel and I think I found what I need. Can anyone confirm its the flywheel I will need? Its for a 4runner 3.4l.

XTR Racing HD Flywheel Toyota 4Runner SUV T100 Tacoma Tundra Pickup Truck 3 4L | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/XTR-RACING-HD-FLYWHEEL-TOYOTA-4RUNNER-SUV-T100-TACOMA-TUNDRA-PICKUP-TRUCK-3-4L-/380581244539?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Make%3AToyota|Model%3ATacoma&hash=item589c68ee7b&vxp=mtr)

Jifter

02-26-2013, 03:33 PM

Anyone know if thats the flywheel I need for the swap?

Frank_Jaeger

03-05-2013, 09:21 PM

Bump! Msglength

repda916

04-08-2013, 09:12 PM

here is my flywheel setup

3sgt Flywheel.
I than had the machinest notch the center and used the stock LS400 Center bolt plate thing as a pressure plate so all the bolts would have even pressure.
Used 7mge ARP Flywheel bolts as they are longer.
http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/6430/flywheelll.jpghttp://img834.imageshack.us/img834/9376/flywheel.jpg

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/4959/clutchg.jpg

Clutch Disc is from a 300zx and the pressure plate is from a 3sgt
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/466/pressureplate.jpg

StryfeS13

04-15-2013, 11:13 PM

Wow that starter looks like a PAIN to change...

Anyone have any speedometer view acceleration vids of their 1UZ swap?

Trying to get a "feel" for it's power..

Panda-Eats-240

06-13-2013, 03:30 PM

Bump

Any updates?
I've got a nearly complete 1UZ swap on the way for my hatch. Pretty cool to see multiple people doing 1UZ swaps all at the same time on different forums, becoming more popular.

Drifting Kalamari

06-13-2013, 10:12 PM

I almost have mine all ready to go in! I got a '91 1uz mated to KA trans. Welded motor mounts setting it almost two inches further back into the bay. I also have the oil pan bunged so I can turbo it later on.

All that's left is to make a 1 piece DS and wiring work. That's about it!

http://i454.photobucket.com/albums/qq263/yashualachesis/1366573253_zpsdc17dd10.jpg (http://s454.photobucket.com/user/yashualachesis/media/1366573253_zpsdc17dd10.jpg.html)

Tank240sxT

07-08-2013, 11:11 AM

Any additional updates on this. I'm working to put together the money for this swap and I'm hoping someone can tell me how they feel about this swap in their 240. I had (lol) a KA-T and I'm looking at this swap rather than going with a built KA and getting the parts back together to go back to having a KA-T.

I'm looking for driving impression based on the power. I think that I would like to go with the 97 or newer motor because of the power rating. My original goal with my 240 build was 300 whp. This would not be that from right off but might be good enough. Oh yeah is anyone hooking up the A/C Atlanta is way to hot not to have it.

turtle m3th

07-08-2013, 02:47 PM

Tank240sxT

07-08-2013, 03:11 PM

Unless you're savvy with standalone ecu's I would stray away from the vvti model 1uz. It may make more power off the bat, but the ignition system for those models are a pain in the ass to deal with (very similar to a vq35 swap). I haven't finished my swap yet, but a buddy of mine should be done with his within the next few days, and I'll be able to give some information as far as driving impression goes.

Cool let me know what you think. I have an opportunity to get this swap turn key for $2500 with working A/C. I could likely do this myself but the wife would prefer if I spend that time with her rather than trying to do motor work. She is cool about me doing suspension, cosmetic and stereo stuff but not motor work. I messed up one time and it cost me big. The 1uz may not be big power but most of the time an SR motor set will cost you that much and that is a stock motor. For the money this seems much better. When I think about it the power potential is much higher with this setup. And with this not being a drift car this should be fast and fun.

Fries

07-09-2013, 05:56 AM

The way I look at it, you've got as much power as a t25 sr20 tuned with 12lbs of boost and bolt ons.

Except stock. Probably mid-low 14 second quarter mile and one of the most reliable motors out there. Early model 1uz's are stout as hell and there's even cars running 600hp on the stock internals.

Basically... CANT WAIT. If the idea I'm working on pans out for the headers... good lord will this be a cheap swap.

Tank240sxT

07-09-2013, 07:09 AM

I wish the early motors had a little more power. The local 240 guys are busting my chops about not doing the VH45 that is closer to the power level I'm after. Thing is the shop that I'm looking at to do the work for me is unfamiliar with the VH swap and therefore the cost will be higher for that swap. Still the 1uz seems like a good way to go. 90 degree V8 smooth which if I have done my research properly ends up giving you what is considered a perfectly balanced engine and in this case really strong internals.

Tank240sxT

07-17-2013, 01:47 PM

turtle m3th any update on your car? I will have the money to move forward with getting my car back on the road. I'm just trying to get a good feel for what I might be getting ready to have done to my car.

turtle m3th

07-18-2013, 12:48 AM

Tank240sxT

07-18-2013, 06:32 AM

My buddy is all done with his, but he's pussy footing it around for awhile. My car is far from being up and running, but I've made some serious progress on the motor over the past few days. I'll post some pics in the next few days.

What was your initial impression of your buddies car even though he is driving lightly. Hey it will be cool to see some pictures. A friend of mine is buying his rb25 clip the first of august. I want a v8. The shop I'm working with is looking into the possibility of wiring up an 1997 or higher 1uzfe. I would be a little happier with the power of the later motor because I don't want to turbo the motor. I really wish I understood more about wiring but I don't.

You know not knowing or understanding wiring leaves me thinking that we need to be able to supply power to the ECU and make it so that when we turn the key the car starts. We run the 1uzfe wiring harness to the motor just like it would be in the original car it came from and you would be up and running. Now I know that this would leave us without a working tach and speedometer but in the case of the 1997 and up motor the vvti should work. Like I said I'm over simplifying it and I don't know anything about wiring so I hope no one gets too offended by my noob comments. If anyone can explain it to me it would be greatly appreciated.

Tank240sxT

07-18-2013, 07:34 AM

Do you have bretts number? Just bought a plate off him but have a question with the flywheel.

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turtle m3th

07-18-2013, 11:25 PM

Tank240sxT

07-19-2013, 07:04 AM

turtle m3th

07-20-2013, 01:45 PM

Tank240sxT

07-22-2013, 08:06 AM

Just need to get a few more things from the junkyard and autozone, then she'll be ready to fire up! I won't be using any covers on my motor because I'm running an electric ps pump and don't need any of it. I made a tensioner for the alt, and that's pretty much all I needed. I also machined off the additional brackets that I didn't need on the water pump to give it a cleaner look. I'm trying to make the mounts for my fc sometime next week, then start working on wiring right after that.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v197/kisssodivine/AdobePhotoshopExpress_2013_07_19_19_58_14-Edited.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/kisssodivine/media/AdobePhotoshopExpress_2013_07_19_19_58_14-Edited.jpg.html)

Looks sweet! I should be dropping my car off at the end of the month to get the work done. I will put together a little build thread and update it each week after stopping by to see the progress.

zenkiset

07-28-2013, 06:27 PM

so my original plan was to buy the brett collings ful kit, but then I decided I didn't want to spend so much money, pls I don't want such a heavy clutch since I will be daily driving. im still going to buy his adapter plate and mounts though. on his website the mounts say for an s13, but im guessing they will also work on an s14? and does anyone know someone that makes the other clutch and flywheel setup/sells it?

turtle m3th

07-29-2013, 02:04 AM

MiamiZ33

07-30-2013, 01:43 PM

I'd go with a flywheel from sitemap toyotav8 toyota lexus manual transmission adaptors toyotav8 (http://1uzfeswapkit.com/) dude is super cool and doesn't bullshit you like Brett Collins. You can run whatever sr or ka clutch disk you want, and whatever 3sgte pressure plate you want with their flywheel. Brett just wants to sell you as much crap as possible, but not give you info on how to replace it in the future. He acts like it's custom, but it's not... oh yeah, and mounts are the same between the 13 and 14 chassis. I can sell you legit mounts that aren't out of square if you're interested.

One thing I think it odd, is NOBODY sells headers with their kits. Granted, I understand it's a tight fit, etc etc, but after spending a bunch of money on a mount kit, you still have to fab your own headers? I mean, if the LS guys can get sexy headers to fit, why can't the 1UZ guys get a long-tube header to fit cleanly and elegantly? Is it a size/space thing? Is the LS engine that much narrower than a 1uz? Is it because 1UZ's are poorman's V8 swaps?

zenkiset

07-30-2013, 06:34 PM

I'd go with a flywheel from sitemap toyotav8 toyota lexus manual transmission adaptors toyotav8 (http://1uzfeswapkit.com/) dude is super cool and doesn't bullshit you like Brett Collins. You can run whatever sr or ka clutch disk you want, and whatever 3sgte pressure plate you want with their flywheel. Brett just wants to sell you as much crap as possible, but not give you info on how to replace it in the future. He acts like it's custom, but it's not... oh yeah, and mounts are the same between the 13 and 14 chassis. I can sell you legit mounts that aren't out of square if you're interested.

so is this the flywheel you are recommending? Modified 3SGTE Flywheel (http://1uzfeswapkit.com/Flywheel-For-the-xUZFE-Engines-0000-0008.htm)

and pm me with info on the mounts please. brand, etc., and your price shipped to 42501.

Fries

07-30-2013, 09:30 PM

One thing I think it odd, is NOBODY sells headers with their kits. Granted, I understand it's a tight fit, etc etc, but after spending a bunch of money on a mount kit, you still have to fab your own headers? I mean, if the LS guys can get sexy headers to fit, why can't the 1UZ guys get a long-tube header to fit cleanly and elegantly? Is it a size/space thing? Is the LS engine that much narrower than a 1uz? Is it because 1UZ's are poorman's V8 swaps?

Im going to utilize a modified steering shaft from the concept8 5.0sbf swap kit in order to use the stock or 2uz headers. Will report back. . In 3 months.

MiamiZ33

08-04-2013, 07:09 PM

Im going to utilize a modified steering shaft from the concept8 5.0sbf swap kit in order to use the stock or 2uz headers. Will report back. . In 3 months.

Tell me more... I can't seem to find any info online about Concept-8 steering shafts..

zenkiset

08-04-2013, 08:22 PM

^^ same here. any other supporting proof that this will work? any links to where one can be obtained?

Drifting Kalamari

08-04-2013, 11:10 PM

Just need to get a few more things from the junkyard and autozone, then she'll be ready to fire up! I won't be using any covers on my motor because I'm running an electric ps pump and don't need any of it. I made a tensioner for the alt, and that's pretty much all I needed. I also machined off the additional brackets that I didn't need on the water pump to give it a cleaner look. I'm trying to make the mounts for my fc sometime next week, then start working on wiring right after that.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v197/kisssodivine/AdobePhotoshopExpress_2013_07_19_19_58_14-Edited.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/kisssodivine/media/AdobePhotoshopExpress_2013_07_19_19_58_14-Edited.jpg.html)

Damn, that looks nice! I finally got mine into my '89 240sx! Still tons to do.
I have my build thread on 240atlanta:

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I'm having clearance issues with my sway bar, and when building headers, the fuel lines run really close, so they need to be bent and shielded or moved. The drivers side is tight and has the issues of building around the steering column.

turtle m3th

08-06-2013, 02:35 PM

^ Something that could make your swap relatively easier is routing your exhaust in a cross over configuration. I'm doing the same for my setup for easy of installation, and heat prevention for my fuel lines (which is an area you're dealing with.)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v197/kisssodivine/643887_4827502776191_1802558136_n.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/kisssodivine/media/643887_4827502776191_1802558136_n.jpg.html)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v197/kisssodivine/534739_4882254224943_362475469_n.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/kisssodivine/media/534739_4882254224943_362475469_n.jpg.html)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v197/kisssodivine/550713_4882251944886_1421581706_n1.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/kisssodivine/media/550713_4882251944886_1421581706_n1.jpg.html)

I don't have any pictures of how the header was modified to clear, but I'll try to get some pretty soon, but once you have point A and B it's fairly straight forward.
The same exact thing can be done with a front sump setup seeing as we've already done it on a buddy of mines s13. I'd look into it if I were you!

MiamiZ33

08-06-2013, 02:58 PM

I'm more interested in the header mod necessary to clear the steering shaft... after looking at the Sikky headers for LS guys which requires you have to take the steering shaft apart and it goes between the header runners (which seems like a pain in the ass, but it works), I can't believe that nobody makes a nice header for us 1UZ guys.

I purchased a turnkey swap, which in hindsight, was a mistake because the fabwork done by the previous owner was mediocre at best. I am a bit pickier when it comes to my fab, so now I am weighing my options of how much do I want to redo BEFORE I get it running.. but I'd be interested in this Concept-8 steering shaft mod.

Thanks for the crossover idea, the amount of ground clearance you have is awesome! Are you running a 3" collector?

turtle m3th

08-06-2013, 05:39 PM

That isn't actually my car, just something I found on the old interwebs, hahaha! The concept-8 steering shaft mod is relatively simple, and any half assed fabricator should be able to pull it off imho. You're simple moving the velocity joint downstream slighty to change the angle at which the shaft connects to the rack. The stock headers were very easy to make fit though. I'll post pics once I have them.

nismox4xlife

08-09-2013, 06:38 PM

Good luck dealing with that clown Brett Collins. He always has some bullshit excuse why he hasn't sent you your shit months after the projected date. It's always "i'm sorry, i'm really busy." Maybe don't try to run a fucking company then! Anyways, the 97 up security system is tide into the ecu. You need to have the key, ignition, and some other crap IIRC. There's a reason it isn't done often (yet).

I'd go with a flywheel from sitemap toyotav8 toyota lexus manual transmission adaptors toyotav8 (http://1uzfeswapkit.com/) dude is super cool and doesn't bullshit you like Brett Collins. You can run whatever sr or ka clutch disk you want, and whatever 3sgte pressure plate you want with their flywheel. Brett just wants to sell you as much crap as possible, but not give you info on how to replace it in the future. He acts like it's custom, but it's not... oh yeah, and mounts are the same between the 13 and 14 chassis. I can sell you legit mounts that aren't out of square if you're interested.

^ THIS.

Hey guys. If I may just post my 2 cents in this thread, I don't want to start any kind of e-battle, but since its on topic I'd like to share my experiences and offer any kind of 1UZ knowledge that I can.

My name is Rod, and I recently completed an S14 5spd swapped LS400 (UCF10). I used the Collins Adapter Technologies kit.

VWVortex.com - Project: AARP Casino Cruiser (http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?5918053-Project-AARP-Casino-Cruiser)

Said car.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y41/nismo4life/LS400/null_zps77053487.jpg (http://s2.photobucket.com/user/nismo4life/media/LS400/null_zps77053487.jpg.html)

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y41/nismo4life/LS400/null_zpsb1d76cf7.jpg (http://s2.photobucket.com/user/nismo4life/media/LS400/null_zpsb1d76cf7.jpg.html)

Let me start out by saying first and foremost that Brett is a really nice guy. There were 2 occurances where we chatted on the phone for some time just bullshitting and he is a cool nice guy, but he is as about a good business man as Obama is a president.

I ordered my swap kit in December '12 when I started this project. I ended up getting a new job and lost motivation and free time to work on the car. I left that job this past May and furiously began working on the car. It wasn't around until mid May that I got around to the stage where I was ready to mate the trans to motor and put it in the car. I encountered a few problems at this point;

The adapter plate hit the flanges of the exhaust manifolds -> Cats.

The adapter plate hit the starter bolts.

The throw out bearing did not fit.

Now I called him and after maybe 3 or 4 attempts I got through to him via text. He sent me the "swap notes".

Being that I don't have the luxury of using other manifolds like you guys with S chassis can, I had to cut my adapter plate. Not his fault, it wasn't intended to be used on any specific chassis, though the S13 was the car it was made to fit into. Maybe he just isn't using 1uz manifolds. Excusable.

His solution? Cut and reweld flanges.

Next, the starter bolts hit the adapter plate. Okay, can't really say that is his fault either, but his solution is retarded. I replaced my bolts with thinner ones and ran a nut on the inside of the head valley this way should my starter ever go, I could just pull the intake manifold off and replace them....

His solution? Shave the bolts down. <- = pull the trans, and adapter plate, AND THEN the manifold to replace the starter....this kid is an engineering major and my stupid ass figured out a better system? lol.

Finally, the crooked TOB. It was legit crooked. The way it's made is one release sleeve is cut in half and welded to the bottom of a complete TOB. When I contacted Brett afterwards he was extremely courteous about if there was any kind of issue with a manufactured part that it was no question it would be replaced. Okay, awesome. Glad to see that even though I bought this kit 6 months ago he has no problem covering that...though he never offered to pay the cost of shipping the defective product to him..whatever. Brett told me he makes them on a jig so I probably didn't install it right or something to that effect. Well, it scratched my TOB guide tube on 2 different KA transmissions.

I have all the text's screen capped in case I ever needed them. Long story short, I shipped out the tob around June 8th, I received a new one either the 24th or 25th. This guy straight up ignored my text messages. You'd call and it would just ring. Like m3th said, always had some bullshit excuse. My favorite "sorry man, been studying I have 2 major exam's tomorrow". I didn't ask, nor do I care. You run a business, and I exchanged my currency for your goods. EITHER RUN YOUR BUSINESS, OR DON'T HAVE ONE AT ALL. So thanks to him dragging his feat I missed my first drift event because Driveshaft Shop went on vacation for a week 4 days later on Friday and this motor is somewhat of a cunt to install with the trans through the engine bay.

So fast forward to 2 weeks ago. I put the car on the ground and go for a drive, between all the noise I couldn't really hear it, but once the exhaust was finished I could tell the TOB was making a very very slight noise. I didn't think anything of it. Today it sounds like chewbacca and it feels like its going to explode any second. Best part is my Mini is in about 1,000 pieces because It needed a major service as well as a clutch and was practically undriveable. My guess is this genius welded the release sleeves together with the bearing still on the one. Great, can't wait to pull the trans :fawk2:.

Moving on, I know some of you guys are a bit upset that the early 1UZ's don't make that much power. I can tell you that it makes enough to make my 3,400lb yacht feel pretty quick. I haven't had the chance to run any of my friends to get an idea of how quick it is, or to dyno it but I can tell you this. At WOT the car runs at the highest point 11.4-6 AFR's. Most of the time its in the high 10's, low 11's. Bare in mind that I have a 2.5" y pipe -> 3" single and a short ram intake. Stock the car has 2 cats, 5 mufflers, and all 1 3/4" piping and a massive intake system. That being said, I'm shocked it hasn't leaned out more. Now, this is all I have been able to find as a tuning solution with decent results on the UZ's.

http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/6215/dyno1pi9.jpg

Now this dyno is for a VVTi 1UZ. Yes, it will make more power, however since the valve timing was not touched the gains shouldn't be too far off what the non-VVTi engines can make. That was tuned with an SAFC and has nothing more than a catback. I will hopefully be getting one and having my buddy tune it soon. I will try and do a before/after and post results. Yes its archaic technology, yes its not the best option, and yes its not the most powerful engine in the world, but rest assured that if my car slides effortlessly on 205's, you guys with almost 1,000lbs less won't have an issue lol.

I'm sure there are people here with more UZ knowledge, but if I can help in anyway please feel free to ask. I've spent months and months researching these stupid motors and aside from the fact that you can't really make big power N/A without LOOOOOOTS of money, I've grown to really love them. Tempted to pay the g-note for an M112 custom manifold/water neck :D. Love them roots blowers.

turtle m3th

08-10-2013, 01:35 AM

^ Damn, that blows about the TOB situation. I kind of expected the quality of it would be sketchy at best, which is why I opted to do it myself. The thing that pissed me off is after I paid him a healthy chunk of cash for the parts I did buy off of him, he wouldn't give me the final dimension that the TOB should end up as so I could do it myself. His reply was, "if you buy if from me it'll be perfect. It'll just work." I could understand if it was an original design, or I wasn't actually a customer, but come on!!! It's just two sleeves welded together. No secret there...

turtle m3th

08-10-2013, 01:53 AM

Also, here is my simple sway bar solution for you guys! dug this up from my vh45 days.

here's a stock sway bar that was bent using heat and some muscle!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v197/kisssodivine/100_1824.jpg
Notice how it lays flat on the ground compared to an unmodified sway bar? This is what offers the additional clearance needed.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v197/kisssodivine/100_1825.jpg

stock for comparison
http://www.rogansan.com/forsale/08.jpg

I don't have any install pics, but my buddy has been rocking it for some time without fail. Give it a shot folks! I prefer to rock the stock front sway, so this was a great and cost effective solution for me. This also clears lsx swaps and possibly I6 swaps.

turtle m3th

08-18-2013, 08:10 AM

It's been quiet in this thread, so I guess I'll make some noise. Pretty small update, but I've got the drivetrain sorted out. I'm rocking an sr20 act 6 puck sprung HD disk and a 3sgte act HD pressure plate. Should do the trick nicely!

The flywheel is from toyotav8.com - Modified 3SGTE Flywheel (http://www.1uzfeswapkit.com/Flywheel-For-the-xUZFE-Engines-0000-0008.htm)
There is no need to use the stock flex plate spacer with this flywheel!

flywheel bolts are from jegs - ARP 203-2802 ARP Flywheel/Flexplate Bolts (http://www.jegs.com/i/ARP/070/203-2802/10002/-1?CAWELAID=1710593824&catargetid=1784156372&cadevice=c&&cagpspn=pla&gclid=CJe1kbCUh7kCFeV7QgodqlkAgA)

pressure plate bolts are also from jegs - ARP 150-2202 ARP Pressure Plate Bolts (http://www.jegs.com/i/ARP/070/150-2202/10002/-1)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v197/kisssodivine/1174609_552014688169473_473599285_n.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/kisssodivine/media/1174609_552014688169473_473599285_n.jpg.html)

Bmxer300zx

08-18-2013, 09:14 AM

^ THIS.

Hey guys. If I may just post my 2 cents in this thread, I don't want to start any kind of e-battle, but since its on topic I'd like to share my experiences and offer any kind of 1UZ knowledge that I can.

My name is Rod, and I recently completed an S14 5spd swapped LS400 (UCF10). I used the Collins Adapter Technologies kit.

VWVortex.com - Project: AARP Casino Cruiser (http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?5918053-Project-AARP-Casino-Cruiser)

Said car.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y41/nismo4life/LS400/null_zps77053487.jpg (http://s2.photobucket.com/user/nismo4life/media/LS400/null_zps77053487.jpg.html)

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y41/nismo4life/LS400/null_zpsb1d76cf7.jpg (http://s2.photobucket.com/user/nismo4life/media/LS400/null_zpsb1d76cf7.jpg.html)

Let me start out by saying first and foremost that Brett is a really nice guy. There were 2 occurances where we chatted on the phone for some time just bullshitting and he is a cool nice guy, but he is as about a good business man as Obama is a president.

I ordered my swap kit in December '12 when I started this project. I ended up getting a new job and lost motivation and free time to work on the car. I left that job this past May and furiously began working on the car. It wasn't around until mid May that I got around to the stage where I was ready to mate the trans to motor and put it in the car. I encountered a few problems at this point;

The adapter plate hit the flanges of the exhaust manifolds -> Cats.

The adapter plate hit the starter bolts.

The throw out bearing did not fit.

Now I called him and after maybe 3 or 4 attempts I got through to him via text. He sent me the "swap notes".

Being that I don't have the luxury of using other manifolds like you guys with S chassis can, I had to cut my adapter plate. Not his fault, it wasn't intended to be used on any specific chassis, though the S13 was the car it was made to fit into. Maybe he just isn't using 1uz manifolds. Excusable.

His solution? Cut and reweld flanges.

Next, the starter bolts hit the adapter plate. Okay, can't really say that is his fault either, but his solution is retarded. I replaced my bolts with thinner ones and ran a nut on the inside of the head valley this way should my starter ever go, I could just pull the intake manifold off and replace them....

His solution? Shave the bolts down. <- = pull the trans, and adapter plate, AND THEN the manifold to replace the starter....this kid is an engineering major and my stupid ass figured out a better system? lol.

Finally, the crooked TOB. It was legit crooked. The way it's made is one release sleeve is cut in half and welded to the bottom of a complete TOB. When I contacted Brett afterwards he was extremely courteous about if there was any kind of issue with a manufactured part that it was no question it would be replaced. Okay, awesome. Glad to see that even though I bought this kit 6 months ago he has no problem covering that...though he never offered to pay the cost of shipping the defective product to him..whatever. Brett told me he makes them on a jig so I probably didn't install it right or something to that effect. Well, it scratched my TOB guide tube on 2 different KA transmissions.

I have all the text's screen capped in case I ever needed them. Long story short, I shipped out the tob around June 8th, I received a new one either the 24th or 25th. This guy straight up ignored my text messages. You'd call and it would just ring. Like m3th said, always had some bullshit excuse. My favorite "sorry man, been studying I have 2 major exam's tomorrow". I didn't ask, nor do I care. You run a business, and I exchanged my currency for your goods. EITHER RUN YOUR BUSINESS, OR DON'T HAVE ONE AT ALL. So thanks to him dragging his feat I missed my first drift event because Driveshaft Shop went on vacation for a week 4 days later on Friday and this motor is somewhat of a cunt to install with the trans through the engine bay.

So fast forward to 2 weeks ago. I put the car on the ground and go for a drive, between all the noise I couldn't really hear it, but once the exhaust was finished I could tell the TOB was making a very very slight noise. I didn't think anything of it. Today it sounds like chewbacca and it feels like its going to explode any second. Best part is my Mini is in about 1,000 pieces because It needed a major service as well as a clutch and was practically undriveable. My guess is this genius welded the release sleeves together with the bearing still on the one. Great, can't wait to pull the trans :fawk2:.

Moving on, I know some of you guys are a bit upset that the early 1UZ's don't make that much power. I can tell you that it makes enough to make my 3,400lb yacht feel pretty quick. I haven't had the chance to run any of my friends to get an idea of how quick it is, or to dyno it but I can tell you this. At WOT the car runs at the highest point 11.4-6 AFR's. Most of the time its in the high 10's, low 11's. Bare in mind that I have a 2.5" y pipe -> 3" single and a short ram intake. Stock the car has 2 cats, 5 mufflers, and all 1 3/4" piping and a massive intake system. That being said, I'm shocked it hasn't leaned out more. Now, this is all I have been able to find as a tuning solution with decent results on the UZ's.

http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/6215/dyno1pi9.jpg

Now this dyno is for a VVTi 1UZ. Yes, it will make more power, however since the valve timing was not touched the gains shouldn't be too far off what the non-VVTi engines can make. That was tuned with an SAFC and has nothing more than a catback. I will hopefully be getting one and having my buddy tune it soon. I will try and do a before/after and post results. Yes its archaic technology, yes its not the best option, and yes its not the most powerful engine in the world, but rest assured that if my car slides effortlessly on 205's, you guys with almost 1,000lbs less won't have an issue lol.

I'm sure there are people here with more UZ knowledge, but if I can help in anyway please feel free to ask. I've spent months and months researching these stupid motors and aside from the fact that you can't really make big power N/A without LOOOOOOTS of money, I've grown to really love them. Tempted to pay the g-note for an M112 custom manifold/water neck :D. Love them roots blowers.

Not trying to be a dick but I've talked to you on 240one.
Did you ever do anything to compensate the space of the adapter? Space the flywheel or mill down the bellhousing? You're spacing the transmission away from everything and expecting it to be fine. Plenty of threads with guys ignoring this and having problems. Even a 1uzfe s13 on here with a z33 trans who snapped his input shaft. Does the modified tob and pilot adapter suppose to compensate the space the adapter is taking? There's different input on this on many threads.

Also I'll agree someone who has a buisness should have 100% commitment in the buisness and customers but considering the amount of adapters this company puts out and has options for and if going to school maybe a bit of a stuggle And hard to maintain all. I'll agree a crooked weld on the TOB is b.s and should've never been shipped to you.

Also that bellhousing is not designed around the ls400 or stock exhaust system I know your not saying its a major flaw and just maybe pointing it out? It was merely designed as a cheap way to get the trans adapted to a 1uz all of wich auto in U.S.
Regardless shaving the starter bolts was a very common talked about problem on many threads.

nismox4xlife

08-18-2013, 09:58 AM

Not trying to be a dick but I've talked to you on 240one.
Did you ever do anything to compensate the space of the adapter? Space the flywheel or mill down the bellhousing? You're spacing the transmission away from everything and expecting it to be fine. Plenty of threads with guys ignoring this and having problems. Even a 1uzfe s13 on here with a z33 trans who snapped his input shaft. Does the modified tob and pilot adapter suppose to compensate the space the adapter is taking? There's different input on this on many threads.

Also I'll agree someone who has a buisness should have 100% commitment in the buisness and customers but considering the amount of adapters this company puts out and has options for and if going to school maybe a bit of a stuggle And hard to maintain all. I'll agree a crooked weld on the TOB is b.s and should've never been shipped to you.

Also that bellhousing is not designed around the ls400 or stock exhaust system I know your not saying its a major flaw and just maybe pointing it out? It was merely designed as a cheap way to get the trans adapted to a 1uz all of wich auto in U.S.
Regardless shaving the starter bolts was a very common talked about problem on many threads.

No, I never checked anything. This is why I paid a grand for a bolt in swap kit that someone else did all the R&D and fab work on. The flywheel uses the flex plate spacer, and that's it. Other than that it all gets assembled like a typical clutch setup. I shouldn't have to check, modify, or change anything. The "custom" tob is what compensates for spacing out the transmission, and the input shaft is definitely making it all the way in because it makes it into the pilot bearing adapter included in the kit.

But I digress. I don't care what kind of business it is, if you don't 110% commit to your customer base regardless of whatever quantity of anything you sell you're running a shitty business. Nothing can excuse not sending a replacement item in 15 days after being clearly ignored or dodged.

Yes, I was just pointing out that it didn't fit. I find it completely excusable because its being used in a method that wasn't intended or thought of when it was designed.

And the shaving of the starter bolts wasn't a problem, it just shocked me that someone who claims to be an engineering student couldn't find a better solution as I'm sure everyone who install this kit at some point realized if the starter ever dies they would have to pull the trans, and the adapter plate to remove the starter bolts because the starter is threaded for them in that direction, its not nuts and bolts. I was merely also pointing out what I felt was a pretty lame solution.

But to get back on topic, Turtle the uz is looking good. Did you make those spark plug covers?!

turtle m3th

08-18-2013, 03:23 PM

Yeah, I made them to clean up the look a bit since I'm not running any covers on this motor. Just had them sheered at the metal supply and drilled some holes. Super simple!

turtle m3th

08-30-2013, 10:37 PM

Waking up the crickets once again... Got my motor mounts done today! My buddy welded them up while I did the fit and finish.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v197/kisssodivine/1377911964133.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/kisssodivine/media/1377911964133.jpg.html)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v197/kisssodivine/1236995_557564624281146_275758665_n.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/kisssodivine/media/1236995_557564624281146_275758665_n.jpg.html)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v197/kisssodivine/20130830_200952.jpeg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/kisssodivine/media/20130830_200952.jpeg.html)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v197/kisssodivine/20130830_200931.jpeg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/kisssodivine/media/20130830_200931.jpeg.html)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v197/kisssodivine/20130830_140626.jpeg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/kisssodivine/media/20130830_140626.jpeg.html)

More updates to come soon. And hopefully not just from me, hahaha! seriously though, i'm not the only one doing this swap on this forum.

turtle m3th

08-30-2013, 10:52 PM

Got a couple more pics

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v197/kisssodivine/20130829_150446.jpeg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/kisssodivine/media/20130829_150446.jpeg.html)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v197/kisssodivine/20130829_150512.jpeg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/kisssodivine/media/20130829_150512.jpeg.html)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v197/kisssodivine/20130829_150333.jpeg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/kisssodivine/media/20130829_150333.jpeg.html)

Fries

08-31-2013, 03:54 AM

Shit fits nice as hell Turtle. I can't wait to see what you do for headerwork.

s13hvv

09-10-2013, 11:10 AM

Anyone have a fsm for the 93 uz

turtle m3th

09-22-2013, 09:35 PM

Rattle canned the engine bay and made the rad support. bash-bar and headers sometime this week.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v197/kisssodivine/20130922_184044.jpeg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/kisssodivine/media/20130922_184044.jpeg.html)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v197/kisssodivine/20130922_185834.jpeg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/kisssodivine/media/20130922_185834.jpeg.html)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v197/kisssodivine/20130922_184121.jpeg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/kisssodivine/media/20130922_184121.jpeg.html)

zenkiset

09-23-2013, 01:56 PM

nicely done turtle!

turtle m3th

09-24-2013, 12:10 AM

Thanks zenkiset! Make any progress on your swap yet? I'm hoping to have mine fired up in 3 weeks if all goes well.

zenkiset

09-24-2013, 11:37 AM

im actually in the process of moving so I had to put it on hold til the end of next month. dad got a new job in south Carolina and they offered to let me live with them until I finished my swap so I didn't have to put my money into other bills and prolong it even more. so HOPEFULLY I will be updating this thread a lot here soon. ill add a picture tonight of my parts I have piled up in my bedroom lol.

edit: I also saw your car on a buddies instagram page lastnight. that engine looks sexy in that bay :thumbsup:

Jifter

09-26-2013, 10:13 PM

I got mine wired and running the other day in my 89 coupe. Here is a vid of the first test drive from yesterday with open headers. The P\S line popped off as I was exiting my driveway lol. Throttle cable was also a bit tight.

zWBxy-J2wrY

http://imageshack.us/a/img6/6248/gp8g.jpg

Heres my build thread btw
1UZ S13 Coupe Build - Nissan 240SX Forums (http://www.240sxforums.com/forums/hybrid-section/149706-1uz-s13-coupe-build.html)

zenkiset

09-30-2013, 03:06 PM

just took an hour to read through your complete build. I must say, you are right about others not really posting up the problems you ran into. im putting mine into an s14, and haven't seen some of these problems in the s14 build threads. who knows though. and it has been a month now waiting for my pilot and release bearing adaptors to come in. I contact brett abour every four days after he replies and hes very non-chalaunt about it. getting very annoying.

turtle m3th

09-30-2013, 08:18 PM

Glad to see you've got everything up and running Jitler!!! Do you happen to know what type of clearance the throwout bearing is supposed to have with the pressure plate? I can't get an answer out of anyone! Is they actually supposed to have slight contact, or a slight gap?

Jifter

10-01-2013, 07:03 AM

I dont think there should be a gap between the pressure plate and bearing. That way you dont have play in the clutch pedal. I can tell you that to extend your bearing slider, you need to cut your 2nd slider just bellow the two tabs. Then weld it on top of your other un-cut slider.

http://imageshack.us/a/img694/3723/img0551vx.jpg

Fries

10-02-2013, 03:07 AM

KA24DE transmission bros. What size 1pc driveshaft did you get? Gonna need to order a custom one and I only want to have to do it once.

Jifter

10-02-2013, 08:55 AM

I got a Shaftmasters alum shaft for the s13. Not sure of the length

newkid99

10-02-2013, 09:09 AM

Guys quick question, I'm looking to put a 1uz-fe into my s13 hatch. The seller says he was putting it into a mk3 supra, and he has the mounts. Would these mounts be a dirrect fit? Or will the motor be too far back to use my ka24 trans and drive shaft? Any info is appreciated I just didn't want to open a new thread to ask. Btw subbing to this thread, there is some awesome fab work here!

Fries

10-03-2013, 01:25 AM

I got a Shaftmasters alum shaft for the s13. Not sure of the length

Yeah but you also moved the motor to stock location.

Jifter

10-03-2013, 07:36 AM

Yeah but you also moved the motor to stock location.

Thats right. I redrilled the mounting holes on bretts mounts to move the engine forward 1" so that I could mount the trans in the original location and use an OEM driveshaft length

newkid99

10-03-2013, 08:05 AM

Thats right. I redrilled the mounting holes on bretts mounts to move the engine forward 1" so that I could mount the trans in the original location and use an OEM driveshaft length

You say oem drive shaft length, but if I did this swap and moved engine forward for the right length, would it be necessary to have an aftermarket drive shaft? or could I use the oem one?

zenkiset

10-03-2013, 01:12 PM

Fries

10-03-2013, 03:42 PM

Got my last parts from brett todayyyyy! :D:D

Also, does anyone have a write up on using power steering in this swap for an s14 or know where I can find one? There's a couple guys on here with this swap in their s14's but only state the parts they used which doesn't really help me that much. really need pics.

Zenki will you get an accurate measurement of the drive shaft? Actually if you could lay the 1 PC next to the OEM and get the difference in size, you'd be a god among men. Or at least me.

turtle m3th

10-06-2013, 12:01 PM

You can use the stock driveshaft if you choose to, but it puts your motor unfavorably forward. The motor/trans need to be pushed back 2 7/16" back with the method I use of bolting up the trans cross member like so
http://image.superstreetonline.com/f/techarticles/9270084+w799+h499+cr1+ar0/130_0703_36_z%2Bnissan_240sx_rb25det_rb26dett_engi ne_swap%2Bbolting_on_the_transmission_crossmember. jpg
Simply bolt up the front of the member to the back holes and make a bracket. This in turn will obviously move the shifter back that distance, but you'll end up with proper clearances for other things in your engine bay. Doing this will also put you within 1/8 from the brake booster on an s13, so this is as far back as you can go.

Small update on my pig. Time to fab up all the little things, so I threw in my mockup motor.
https://scontent-b-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/1381967_570947179609557_778694023_n.jpg

I'd be willing to make you guys motor mounts and the trans brackets for a very reasonable cost if anyone is interested. Just shoot me a pm

Fries

10-06-2013, 12:29 PM

God among men turtle.

zenkiset

10-07-2013, 11:55 AM

Fries, I didnt get the full kit from brett :/. but as you already saw, turtle clear everything up :D

turtle m3th

10-07-2013, 02:24 PM

I am currently working on getting a full kit together for you guys (minus the adapter plate.) I've done this swap a few times now, and have a good understanding of how things "should" be done, and what should be improved upon.

parts included:
Plug and play harness
motor/trans mounts (with, or without the use of an insulator)
power steering kit
driveshaft available for order through "thorough concepts" Ali is great!!!
template for shifter hole trimming
stock sway bar modification (i'll post pics of this soon.)
throw out bearing modification (you can send me your current unit to save money)
pilot bearing adapter
clutch line (if converting from auto trans)
A list of part #'s you need to finalize your swap
and lastly PDF files of articles I've found to be informative about the 1UZ!

If anyone of you is willing to a comprehensive build thread, I'll be glad to provide you with all items from the above list granted you provide the parts needed for modification (engine harness, throw out bearing, etc.) I can even go as far as doing header modifications, and making y pipes!!!

zenkiset

10-07-2013, 02:35 PM

have you done the wiring on this swap for an s14 before? id rather pay someone that knows what theyre doing, than screw it up trying to do it myself. a lot less stressful for me being that I will not have to worry about it while packing up everything and trying to sell the house. if so, PM me a quote.

Fries

10-09-2013, 09:05 PM

turtle m3th

10-11-2013, 11:31 AM

Sorry guys, I have yet to get my hands on an s14. But, on the upside, I have got a car to work with so I can start a well documented build thread. Pretty much everything I've listed above will be covered, so stay tuned!

Fries

10-13-2013, 11:44 PM

How many bolt holes lined up on the transmission adapter for the KA24DE?

turtle m3th

10-14-2013, 01:21 AM

I'm not 100 percent sure, but it's most of them if not all. I only use the larger sized bolts that are on the top and the sides.

finished mounting up the power steering pump, and mocked up the lines. The routing isn't final yet.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v197/kisssodivine/20131012_173124.jpeg

imoverherre

10-16-2013, 10:43 PM

Yup from reading this whole thread, I might not get the swap kit from Brett.

To think your paying 16?? (that's the price I saw on his page (could be wrong) and still have to modify some parts it's not such a good ideal.

Right know I just picked up my 1uz with harness and ecu with all accessories, for a good price I couldn't pass up. And looking to get this swap started.

Will be keeping up with this page.

Turtle I pm'ed you.

babowc

10-17-2013, 01:08 AM

If Brett Colin sucks that bad on business end of things, where can I get an adapter to z33 tranny? Or even a ka tranny?

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk 2

turtle m3th

10-17-2013, 01:40 AM

^ I'm working on that one too. Should have some details this weekend.

Jifter

10-17-2013, 02:13 PM

I finally got my 1uz 89 coupe finished and took it out to the drift event. Its a 91 1uz. Exhaust is 2.5 from the headers to single 3" to a vibrant muffler. KADE trans, straight one piece alum shaft, welded diff, 205 tires. The torque is awesome compared to my ka24det25 10psi hatch. Definitely has a bit more hp too.

Here is a vid from the event. Im in it a few times.

Shannonville Drift Event Oct 14 2013 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtkSoM0rDew&list=LL6yU6zwE0jLhaH4-Kj0rSXw&feature=mh_lolz)

http://imageshack.us/a/img401/5328/ch5p.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img812/8644/865m.jpg

MiamiZ33

10-17-2013, 04:09 PM

I don't want to burden this thread with an intro and my 1UZ woes, but I'll keep it short...

Who am I: My name is Mike. I'm a 29 year old graduated Mechanical Engineer from University of Miami, currently still living in Miami. I have tons of fab and machining experience (check out my previous job of chief engineer at scorpionmotorsports.com). I'm now in the medical device field working as a Biomedical Engineer. I've been drifting my Z for 3 years, and decided to build an S13 missile car since the Z is my daily and it's not worth busting up at the track.

My story: After getting the run around from Collins (including a huge variation in his pricing along the 6 months it took him to respond to all my detailed questions), I found a member on Zilvia selling his "turnkey swap". It was not cheap, but did come with all the right parts to stuff it into my S13 including a Z33 tranny and adapter, new ACT clutch and modified tundra headers. I don't have any malice towards the previous owner, he has been great at helping me out with questions I have, but the built quality is not up to my standards.. you know what they say, if you want it done right, do it yourself.

The wiring was hacked, the engine looks a thousand years old, and the other day, get this, I took the header wrap off to slap a coat of heat resistant paint on them only to my dismay to find a 3" section of galvanized fence post section welded in. To add insult to injury, the welds might be the worst welds I've ever seen and do not fully seal. Needless to say, I will be fabbing my own long tube 304SS headers (at least the driver side).

I can provide updates to anybody interested in my build, but I am grateful there are others out there that are knowledgeable and happy to post their builds for us to follow along.

Fries

10-18-2013, 12:52 PM

Sweet shit jitter!
Sucks about your header z33. I'm not excited about having to get mine fabbed.

I was able to get a 1uz outta a rear ended ls400. With 83k on it! Rear main leaks like a mofo, but other than that... Pretty stoked.

Did work.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a30/James118/IMG_20131017_151827814_zpscccaad14.jpg

MiamiZ33

10-18-2013, 01:02 PM

I have never seen 1UZ swap headers, even Collins was going to "need my car" to custom make me a header. WTF. I understand clearance is tight, but hell.. if someone sold legit headers with their mount kits, I think they'd have a strong advantage over their competitors.

I'll keep everyone posted when my mandrel bends come in.

turtle m3th

10-18-2013, 08:57 PM

Glad to see there's more activity in this thread! I'm heading to the machine shop tomorrow to get some of these parts going for you guys.

turtle m3th

10-19-2013, 04:03 PM

Very exciting news guys! Just left the machine shop and the prices are projected to be very similar to Brett Collins! These are actual cnc'd parts for around the same cost as some mickey mouse bullshit! First thing being addressed is the throw out bearing. So, for those of you that have only purchased your plate through Brett, I will have a solution for you guys so you don't have to deal with the lack of proper "customer care" or questionable quality control. This is a process, so i'll be updating everyone along the way before the build thread actually begins.

zenkiset

10-19-2013, 04:35 PM

great work turtle! im sure that once your name gets out there you will have his business. bc ive heard nothing but complaints when it comes to his customer service. looks like you got a new business on your hands! ha.

Fries

10-19-2013, 11:25 PM

turtle m3th

10-20-2013, 10:00 AM

Hey guys, check out what a customer of mine is dealing with when if comes to good ol Brett!

He opened up a paypal claim against him yesterday @3:57 pm (10/19). Here's the screen shot of what was said.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v197/kisssodivine/brett1.png (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/kisssodivine/media/brett1.png.html)

Then i'm assuming that once Brett caught wind of the claim he even more disrespectfully decided to send the package anyways @8:05 pm (10/19) after a refund was requested!!! So now my customer has gotta deal with that.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v197/kisssodivine/brett.png (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/kisssodivine/media/brett.png.html)

Fries: I've got you covered if you can wait about 2 weeks!

MiamiZ33

10-21-2013, 11:23 AM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v197/kisssodivine/brett.png (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/kisssodivine/media/brett.png.html)

Anybody else think it's funny that he's on SHADE avenue?

turtle m3th

10-21-2013, 08:21 PM

^LOL! honestly though, you guys can peep my trader rating and feel confident buying from me. I'm an engineer major myself, and i have no idea which school Brett is learning from, but he sure doesn't make it seem accredited, LOL!

babowc

10-22-2013, 12:15 AM

Also... Lmk if you can make a 1/2jz to z33.. or even a KA tranny!

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk 2

turtle m3th

10-22-2013, 02:01 AM

I can make whatever demand dictates. I wish I had the resources to explore all avenues, but unless the demand is there i'm much too small of an operation at the moment to accommodate everyones needs. A 1/2jz adapter is very likely in the future though! However, I will stray away from doing one for the ka transmission because it will inevitably fail on the jz series.

turtle m3th

10-26-2013, 06:58 PM

Updates: Okay, so the throw out bearing parts are taking a little longer than my machinist originally told me because he had to order up some tooling to get the job done. Shouldn't be more than another week. Pilot bushing adapters will be done next week too!

onto my turd! I got a lot of little things sorted out: power steering lines, radiator lines, y pipe, intake (armor all tub temporarily, LOL!) p/s cooler, along with some other small stuff. I'm almost ready to start wiring. Should be another couple of weeks since I don't get much time to wrench these days.

the lines are just for mock up
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v197/kisssodivine/20131024_130722.jpeg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/kisssodivine/media/20131024_130722.jpeg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v197/kisssodivine/20131024_130740.jpeg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/kisssodivine/media/20131024_130740.jpeg.html)

yes, I got the biggest filter I could find!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v197/kisssodivine/20131026_114251.jpeg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/kisssodivine/media/20131026_114251.jpeg.html)

MiamiZ33

10-27-2013, 06:39 PM

Does anybody have an FSM? Preferably from a early 90s LS400 which my particular setup was pulled from. I'm buttoning up the wiring but ran into a few items of concern maybe you guys can help me out with:

There's a ring terminal near the passenger cylinder head that has 4 wires in it (including two White/Blue) and I'm wondering if it's for a ground or what.

Do you have to pull the intake manifold to get at the +12V that goes to the starter?

Also, where are you guys mounting your igniters? I tubed the front end of my car, so I have no fender wells forward of the shock tower to mount to, so I may need to mount them further back and extend the AFM plug.

TurtleM3th, which power steering pump are you running? Mine is belt driven off the passenger side of the engine... is yours electric?

As an update, I started receiving the tubing to fab my headers/y-pipe. So I'm stoked about that.

turtle m3th

10-27-2013, 11:33 PM

It's an electric p/s pump from an sw20 mr2.

turtle m3th

10-28-2013, 11:30 AM

here's a model of the new throw out bearing assembly which is getting done this week! I will not be providing the actual throw out bearing itself so you have the ability to run whichever one you'd like. It is also internally identical to the stock unit, so the grease collector is also retained.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v197/kisssodivine/10-26-20134-01-28PM.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/kisssodivine/media/10-26-20134-01-28PM.jpg.html)

A "no guess" pilot bearing adapter is also going to be in the mix this week. hope you guys are as excited as I am to get these parts into testing!

wyteboiii

10-28-2013, 05:03 PM

Headers, Exhaust kits, and Flanges (http://www.xatracing.com/heexkiandfl.html)

He use to make the complete headers welded and ready to go but now its a u weld it kit for $500

turtle m3th

10-28-2013, 08:13 PM

1uzfe header flange (http://www.1uzfeswapkit.com/Flanges_c8.htm)
This guy is awesome to deal with! I'd grab some flanges from him, and spend the remaining $400+ on some kick ass collectors and tubing.

s13hvv

10-28-2013, 09:15 PM

Is wiring cut and dry for the ps pump

turtle m3th

10-28-2013, 10:11 PM

Pretty much. 100amp fuse and a relay hooked up to a switch and you're good to go. You can find the diagrams on Google if you search "rx7 electric power steering." The pump itself is kind of rare though. Don't see to many sw20 junkers.

s13hvv

10-28-2013, 10:26 PM

Thanks it really is pretty simple to the local junkyard I go. Write up if anyone else is interested in doing this. http://www.rx7club.com/fabrication-250/write-up-mr2-electrical-power-steering-conversion-847818/

Fries

11-01-2013, 05:22 PM

turtle m3th

11-01-2013, 07:10 PM

here's what I did for my fuel lines. Grab one of each and you'll be fine.

This one goes to the fpr
https://www.belmetric.com/bnjf1278-banjo-eye-fitting-p-4426.html?zenid=od45u37vel9ar95knujtiml355&cPath=13_853_855

this one goes to the other rail
https://www.belmetric.com/bnjf1078-banjo-eye-fitting-p-4424.html?cPath=13_853_855

Fries

11-05-2013, 02:26 PM

Turtle, where do you prefer to get your replacement/performance parts for the 1uz. Starter, intake gasket, Intake piping etc.

MiamiZ33

11-10-2013, 07:00 PM

I got a quote from my local waterjet guy for $55 per flange from 3/8" mild. I would largely prefer a waterjetted edge over a plasma cut edge, especially from a welding perspective. I'm going to get mine cut this week, but I've got everything I need to start fabbing my headers, including merge collectors and enough tubing to remake the Y-pipe. If anybody wants a set of waterjet flanges, let me know.

I'm still working out my wiring - I got the car cranking today, but my battery was dead after sitting for a year so I couldn't get much out of it. I'm crossing my fingers that once it's charged (or replaced) it will fire up. I still need to run my fuel lines, but I will just leave them hanging until I confirm it runs.

http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac357/Mike_Gellatly/photo2_zpsa3f79a6c.jpg

Fries

11-10-2013, 07:50 PM

Finally got the lighting and heat needed to work in the garage through this cold ass winter here in upstate NY.

She's looks messy, but its really not too bad.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a30/James118/IMG_20131110_192746319_zpsf7d2e017.jpg

Started to take the harness off the motor, but I'm not very excited about it. Gotta remove intake manifold and all kinds of stuff eh?

Trying to decide whether I care about a clean motor that much, but then again might as well do the intake gasket and valve cover gaskets before they need them. Then again... 85k motor.

Jifter

11-11-2013, 06:42 AM

You guys used the KA24DE clutch pressure plate bolts to the flywheel? I need to buy some ARP replacements because my clutch kit had no bolts. Should I go with bolts for the MR2 since I'm using that flywheel?

FUARRRRRK.

Also. What do you guys do with your fuel lines? Gimme gimme.

My kit from brett didnt come with them either. I used Camry pressure plate bolts. I ran my fuel lines through the tunnel to avoid the exhaust heat. Fuel line are 5/16

Jifter

11-11-2013, 07:02 AM

Not to steer ppl away from this swap or anything but I managed to seize my 1UZ after its 2nd drift day. It turns out that the rod bearing(s) died (black ones in the pic). The engine had 220xxxkm. Looking for another donor lol

http://imageshack.us/a/img826/6418/kf70.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img32/4277/2u4t.JPG

http://imageshack.us/a/img706/2633/cpjh.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img845/9241/p2h8.jpg

Here is a vid of me and my buddy tandeming before it seized

ojcLiS044e8

nismobenzo

11-11-2013, 08:43 AM

planning on using bits and pieces of this thread to use a ka trans in my ls...good stuff!

zenkiset

11-12-2013, 02:31 PM

that sucks jifter. but hey. atleast you can snag another engine for $3-400.

MrChow

11-14-2013, 03:42 AM

Woah.. I've been out long. I started about 6 monthes ago haven't been able to get any real work done but this is what I have so far.

1uz vvti out of GS400 found for $300 Came with everything but the keys but I found someone to bypass the immobilizer.
Got a Flywheel and tranny plate for $500.
In the middle of rebuilding the motor. My friend that's a master tech and toyota is helping me out with this so I can't wait to start to actually get it in the car.

I need to backtrack and read up all that I've missed i this thread.

Fries

11-14-2013, 06:31 AM

Not excited about doing this wiring. Trying to learn how to weld so I can modify the tundra headers to fit.

If anyone has wiring for dummies for the 1uz (91) to s14, I'd appreciate it. I don't really want to have to send it out to be modified.

zenkiset

11-14-2013, 06:34 PM

If anyone has wiring for dummies for the 1uz (91) to s14, I'd appreciate it. I don't really want to have to send it out to be modified.

sezio on here has a write up with pictures that shows step by step what to do supposedly for the s14. ive talked to him a few times about it but he wont give it away for free. he says to "paypal him what I think is reasonable." I really don't have a clue what to offer to him since hes helped me on my swap a lot so far. don't wanna low ball him yanno. ive been debating on just asking him what hed charge to send it to him but im tight on the "monnies" right now though and im scared he'll want a lot for it. maybe you can try talking to him about it Fries.

nismobenzo

11-15-2013, 06:40 AM

My friend that's a master tech and toyota is helping me out with this so I can't wait to start to actually get it in the car.

hopefully that works out since that motor has never been at a toyota dealership unless some guy got lost one day..ha

MrChow

11-15-2013, 12:39 PM

hopefully that works out since that motor has never been at a toyota dealership unless some guy got lost one day..ha

Lol yeah he's never had to pull a head from these motors. He's pulled IS-F heads but not 1uz.

MiamiZ33

11-16-2013, 05:19 PM

Got my engine cranking and possibly running for a few seconds when I noticed a massive puddle of oil on the ground.

Under closer inspection, the oil seemed to be coming from this hole:

http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac357/Mike_Gellatly/0C71196D-D242-403B-8AD0-0806EDD31C8F-19788-0000023D31DE5E74_zps2b891dbf.jpg

What is this? It looks like it's supposed to be plugged (notice old thread sealer there).

Any help would be appreciated.

Fries

11-17-2013, 07:20 AM

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a30/James118/IMG_20131117_091656115_zps1ad636bf.jpg

Oil pressure sender. Just like a KA.

imoverherre

11-17-2013, 03:01 PM

Anybody got a flywheel and and clutch set for sale???

chingon

11-19-2013, 09:56 PM

anyone figured out a way to make the oem (uncut) headers clear on either chassis? Seems like the only way to make this swap cost effective vs going ls-variant.

Fries

11-20-2013, 06:03 PM

anyone figured out a way to make the oem (uncut) headers clear on either chassis? Seems like the only way to make this swap cost effective vs going ls-variant.

Have you priced out a 5.3/t56 swap?

Even paying to have custom manifolds, y pipe, and wiring done you'll still be under a t56 LSx swap by about $4000.

This swap should not cost you more than $3500 said and done.
That's paying a premium for a motor and KA transmission.

chingon

11-21-2013, 01:45 PM

Have you priced out a 5.3/t56 swap?

Even paying to have custom manifolds, y pipe, and wiring done you'll still be under a t56 LSx swap by about $4000.

This swap should not cost you more than $3500 said and done.
That's paying a premium for a motor and KA transmission.

truck 5.3's are around 1k-1500 in my area w/loom and ecu. Nothing stopping you from using the stock tranny or non t-56 like in this swap (though maybe a flat plate may not cut it as it did here).

I mean I love what it's being done here, I just wonder if there's any way in hell to make oem manifolds fit (by moving further back and going w/smaller booster).

Fries

11-23-2013, 07:21 PM

Alright here's what I got for wiring into a s14.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y281/cation420/400sx%20project/400sxwiring_Page_1.jpg

Instructions for wiring a 1uz that I've found state that:

• +12V wired to pin (BATT)

• (M-REL) drives the Main EFI Relay: switches it on.

• (+B) and (+B1) both get 12volts when the Main EFI Relay is switched.

• Main EFI Relay appears to be working fine.

• (E11) is grounded.

• (E2) is grounded.

• (E02) is grounded.

• (E01) is grounded.

• (STA) gets a 12volt input from starter relay when the engine is cranking.

• (IGSW) gets a switched power 12volts from the ignition switch.

• You might want to find the check light (W) and use as an earth for a light
(switched power on the other side), tells you if the ecu is on or not.

2.1.2 In the wiring loom:

• Find the injector power wire, and connect that to relay / switched power. It’s
usually a striped wire. In the older motors it’s Black/Orange, newer engines it’s
Blue/Red.

• Find the power to the igniters, connect that to a relay / switched power, usually
the same colour as the injector power wire.

• Sometimes: the sensor power wire is loose in the loom, find it, give it switched
power.

Fries

11-24-2013, 03:51 PM

Run a relays, its a fail safe to protect the ecu.

MiamiZ33

11-25-2013, 07:21 AM

Update: My header fab is underway, but I decided to go the easy route and just cut out all the garbage the previous owner attempted at fabbing. I may wind up remaking the entire driver side header, but time will tell.

On the passenger side I will be sticking with the relatively unmodified passenger side pacesetter tundra longtube header but adding a new collector with a v-band attachment. For the drivers side, I am essentially remaking 3 of the 4 runners and reusing the flange.

I bought formed collectors from coneeng.com (which are the best designed collector for the money). I decided to go with a 2.5" collector into a 2.5 Y-Pipe which will merge with a single 3" exhaust. Most of these headers go into a 3" collector which I believe is too big for a 300 hp engine.

I will post pictures tonight if I can put in some work today.

Fries

11-25-2013, 07:58 AM

MiamiZ33

11-25-2013, 08:03 AM

That sounds like my plan too, once I get to it. Post teh pictures.
What are you doing to measure out/figure out your routing?

Measure, cut, repeat.

Fries

11-25-2013, 12:59 PM

EDIT.
Wiring is easy. My bad.

imoverherre

12-02-2013, 02:11 AM

Ok I'm lost in the whole wiring part, I suck at reading diagrams and can't figure this out for the life of me!!! Does anybody have like a detail pictures on how to wire this up and what wires can'. I delete and what are needed? Shit if there's someone that lives near los Angeles and don't Mind giving me a helping hand that would be great!!! I need new friends lol.

sarhd

12-02-2013, 06:54 AM

Have the motor have the car just need everything else lol..

Fries

12-04-2013, 10:26 AM

Its really not that complicated. Find ign power from the chassis and apply it to applicable areas (injectors/ ignitors / 02 sensors) make sure you use relays for the power.
Figure out how you'll get the starter to work (havent researched yet, but it seems easy), how to wire alternator (seems really easy, I have to make custom plug since I didnt get my alt plug with the harness). Your fuel pump should be run by your chassis harness.

I had no idea how wiring works until I studied up on it. Start labeling your harness with the wires you can find from the wiring diagrams and trace them to where they connect. You'll learn alot about the engine this way.

How Toyota ECUs supply power/ignition:
http://www.autoshop101.com/forms/h25.pdf

How to Wire a 1uz (long in detail write up)
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0WE7dVhvJd_UFRKeEptSTVqaTg/edit

1uzfe wiring diagrams:
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B0WE7dVhvJd_STE2UTdiQWpjWWs&usp=sharing&tid=0B0WE7dVhvJd_MGswNmc4Q0VxOUk

and just google 240sx FSM. Theyre all located on NICO.

satal95

12-04-2013, 10:32 PM

Very helpful sites fries

sarhd

12-10-2013, 01:49 PM

Just ordered some mounts from turtle lets see how they come out

MiamiZ33

12-16-2013, 01:08 PM

I haven't made any noise on this thread in a while, so here goes... I decided to salvage what I could from the pacesetter header instead of starting from complete scratch:

http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac357/Mike_Gellatly/E8E631FC-6607-497C-987D-2A64DA0E2547_zpsit1ziwvk.jpg

If I had started from scratch I would have routed the piping differently. The 3rd and 4th runner come out of the flange at a very aggressive downward angle to avoid the steering shaft, and I think if I were to do a full custom header I would have had them come over the steering shaft and had runners 1 and 2 go under. But I had what I had, and it looks infinitely better than it did before I started.

http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac357/Mike_Gellatly/B6D2E6DC-DF0A-46CF-A018-73D196DB8540_zpsmq2kt0di.jpg

http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac357/Mike_Gellatly/8984D4B2-AFFF-412D-A15B-B7B33291723F_zps3ymmnrpj.jpg

Fries

12-16-2013, 07:29 PM

Looks awesome man! The welder is down at my auto-skills shop so I can't weld my own and its the only thing keeping me from continuing the motor swap (since I cannot start it without headers).

In a couple months I'll probably bring it somewheres to have the headers made.

But seriously, it looks great!

sarhd

12-16-2013, 08:07 PM

I've been talking with turtle and he said he will be offering the service of modding the stock headers of the 1uz

turtle m3th

12-16-2013, 09:04 PM

Thanks sarhd! I'll have pics up sometime early next week of the modded headers. And as far as the other parts go, I've been getting shafted by the machine shop I usually go through, so I have to find another company to work with.

sarhd

12-16-2013, 09:33 PM

Damn that sucks so no ETA on the pilot bushing?

turtle m3th

12-16-2013, 09:50 PM

Still not getting back to me, but this seems to be a great option! It's supposed to come with one. Lexus 1UZ Toyota V8 Peformance Parts & Swap Kits - ALWAYS IN STOCK and READY TO GO!! (http://www.suprastore.com/biadplfor1uz.html) Best thing is it's not a Brett Collins part!!!

sarhd

12-16-2013, 09:58 PM

What do you think of the flywheel they offer Lexus 1UZ Toyota V8 Peformance Parts & Swap Kits - SHIPS WITH FREE ARP BOLTS!! (http://www.suprastore.com/1uzflformasw.html)

turtle m3th

12-16-2013, 10:04 PM

I don't much care for the swis cheese machined flywheels personally. I recently collaborated with toyotav8 to make a flywheel that would utilize an sr pressure plate and disk if people happen to already have them. if not, there is another one he offers that allows you to use a 3sgte pressure plate. Flywheels (http://www.1uzfeswapkit.com/Flywheels_c9.htm)

sarhd

12-16-2013, 10:08 PM

Hmm n finding a sr clutch combo would be easier to source

MrChow

12-17-2013, 03:56 AM

I've been talking with turtle and he said he will be offering the service of modding the stock headers of the 1uz

Thanks sarhd! I'll have pics up sometime early next week of the modded headers. And as far as the other parts go, I've been getting shafted by the machine shop I usually go through, so I have to find another company to work with.

Wait what did I miss in this thread??

Fries

12-17-2013, 02:18 PM

Turtle you should really look into fabbing a budget log style manifold that would fit around our steering shafts. I'd be super down. Headers aren't gonna make that much more power for 98% of the people doing the swap since we're not getting the motor dyno tuned.

Also dark day for me. I made a dumb mistake. Taking off the upper oil pan and I couldn't figure out why it wouldn't come undone. Figured the gasket was super stuck on there so I did the worse thing possible. Rubber mallet.

Broke off the piece that the "long" bolt connects to. Just used a dremel to grind out the area that it connects to and used some Devcon 2500PSI enamel to button it back up. Should be okay I think.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a30/James118/IMG_20131217_160744646_zps7f58e594.jpg

So anyway... the image makes it look super offset, but I promise it's flush and all the gaps are filled with the enamel. Here's to not buying a upper oil pan that costs as much as a motor from the JY.

Black R

12-17-2013, 03:38 PM

Flick, why not a 3ur-fe?

Builds>> The Ultimate Street Car: Chris Rado's 2500hp Supra | Speedhunters (http://www.speedhunters.com/2011/10/builds_gt_gt_team_need_for_speed_world_racing_supr a/)

;)

zenkiset

12-17-2013, 04:48 PM

I'll have pics up sometime early next week of the modded headers.

cant wait to see them! ill def be interested in a purchase of them if theyre for the right price!

Fries

12-18-2013, 06:28 PM

Tried to see if I could cheapo my LS400 PS pump to the 240's rack. Cut the return "cooler" line and put stock line and unbolted the hi pressure line in an attempt to run it under to the motor to the 1uz's powersteering pump.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a30/James118/IMG_20131207_144415473_HDR_zps76868b7d.jpg

Well the return line outta work fine, assuming it doesnt pop off the cut metal line. The high pressure line is too short, so looks like $100 in -6 AN fittings and lines.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a30/James118/IMG_20131218_151903361_zps2725dd78.jpg

Also, LOL at butterfinger wrapper that got caught in the LCA while being transported from Vegas to NY.

Frank_Jaeger

12-18-2013, 06:44 PM

Also dark day for me. I made a dumb mistake. Taking off the upper oil pan and I couldn't figure out why it wouldn't come undone. Figured the gasket was super stuck on there so I did the worse thing possible. Rubber mallet.
.
Razor blade + naptha (or gasoline) in a spray bottle. This is what I had to use to get my oil pan off my KA. Cut with blade, keep spraying all the way around. Cut again, etc.

turtle m3th

12-23-2013, 06:15 PM

Hit me up if you guys want your stock headers modified. I've got the solution! Jig is in the works right now.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v197/kisssodivine/20131222_141339.jpeg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v197/kisssodivine/20131222_141350.jpeg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v197/kisssodivine/20131222_142635.jpeg

sarhd

12-23-2013, 06:25 PM

I'll be sending you mine next week hopefully

Drifting Kalamari

12-23-2013, 09:52 PM

Looks awesome! My engine sits pretty far back in the S13 bay, what price are looking at for a set of headers? I have stock and tundra tubular.

turtle m3th

12-23-2013, 10:16 PM

This engine sits pretty far back as well. The oil pan is an 1/8" from hitting the cross-member. I'll be providing the modification service for $280 shipped. This includes the v-band clamps.

badass8

12-23-2013, 10:46 PM

I am looking to do this swap on my s13 once my KA blows up or my clutch fails, hopefully the clutch. I also plan to do this with a KA transmission since mine has zero grinds or any problems so far.
This will also be my first swap ever and I know I will need help as I go along.
I don't have much put together yet since all I am doing is researching and pricing. Mostly following Turtle's setup:

1uzfeswaptkit.com Modified Flywheel (http://www.1uzfeswapkit.com/Flywheel-For-the-xUZFE-Engines-0000-0008.htm)- $224

3sgte ACT Turbo MR2 Pressure Plate (http://actclutchmarket.com/products/toyota-mr-2-turbo-1991-1995-act-pressure-plate-heavy-duty-998)- $283

ARP Flywheel Bolts (http://www.jegs.com/i/ARP/070/203-2802/1002/-1?CAWELAID=1710593824&catargetid=1784156372&cadevi ce=c&&cagpspn=pla&gclid=CJe1kbCUh7kCFeV7QgodqlkAgA )- $29

ARP Pressure Plate Bolts (http://www.jegs.com/i/ARP/070/150-2202/1002/-1)- $15

Suprastore.com Adapter Plate for KA/SR and Z33 transmission (http://www.suprastore.com/biadplfor1uz.html) $400

SR20 ACT 6 Puck Sprung Clutch Disc S13 (http://www.frsport.com/ACT-6240306-6-Puck-Sprung-Clutch-Disc-S13-S14-SR20DET_p_15167.html)- $167

Not sure what I want to do with mounts but I really don't want to spend close to $400 like 1uzfeswapkit.com mounts (http://www.1uzfeswapkit.com/S13-14-15-UZ-Swap-Mounts-PAIR-0000-0027.htm?categoryId=-1)

Unsure If I will need a lengthened/shortened Drive Shaft though.

Total at the moment: $1518

Estimating for 1uzfe block with ECU and accessories: $400

Somewhat of an engine rebuild components:

Timing Belt Kit- water pump, timing belt, hydraulic timing belt actuator, camshaft belt tensioner, camshaft belt Idler (http://www.autozone.com/autozone/parts/Dayco-WPK-Timing-Belt-Component-Kit/1991-Lexus-LS400/_/N-itiflZ8zo4j?itemIdentifier=162691_658265_7453_)- $255

Starter (http://www.autozone.com/autozone/parts/Duralast-Import-Starter/1991-Lexus-LS400/_/N-itiflZ93xl9?itemIdentifier=25143_35761_0_)- $120 with core

Looking at an estimated total of: $2293

Excluding many things like fuel lines, power steering, headers, any fab or machine work, exhaust, sensors...etc

Any advice would be much appreciated. Subscribed.

turtle m3th

12-23-2013, 11:23 PM

I'm waiting on an adapter plate to come in so I can figure out a better solution to extending the throwout bearing and reducing the length of the driveshaft. I also make motor mounts for half that price! Send me a pm if you've got any questions badass8.

Drifting Kalamari

12-24-2013, 02:03 AM

As far as I know, the DS will always be shortened.
Don't forget to get a sway bar. My engine is set back in the bay and the pan touches the sway bar.
SIKKY sells one for $270+shipping. Whiteline sells one for about the same.

I got my BNIB Whiteline for a steal. Beefy as shit!

Turtle M3th:
I noticed the pass side is EXTREMELY close to the fuel lines going under the fire wall. Does your set up clear that better? $280 isn't a bad deal at all to get around the steering column. If I mailed you the Tundra tubular set, could you do the same with that? I like it much more than the restrictive log style stock headers.

Fries

12-24-2013, 02:44 PM

Prepare for business turtle. Could you PM me your info, I'd like to send them out next week.

turtle m3th

12-24-2013, 11:58 PM

Drifting Kalamari: I wish I could take on something like your tundra headers, but I honestly feel that it would be easier to go about making a set from scratch. If there is enough interest for something like that, i'd gladly make it happen, but until then my jig will only accommodate the stock headers. Sorry man...

Fries: Gonna try to make life a little easier on you guys and get some cores at the junkyard this weekend, so they'll be ready to ship out as soon I receive your core.

Drifting Kalamari

12-25-2013, 01:17 AM

Turtle M3th, a PM is coming your way!

MiamiZ33

12-28-2013, 10:12 AM

My UZ is running now. This question is for people who have wired the UZ to the stock 240sx tach: my tach seems pretty erratic, dafuq? FYI, I have the tach signal wire coming off the igniter going straight to the tach.

Drifting Kalamari

12-30-2013, 08:54 PM

I need to know this too. I am having my basic wiring done now and will be finished sometime in January, but was told the tach may read double what it really is... There has to be an easy solution for this without having to get a seperate tach to install...

Fries

12-31-2013, 09:13 AM

What year 1uz are you guys using? From my understanding it puts out a 4cyl tach signal so it should be fine. I haven't wired my engine up yet so I can't comment on my setup yet.

Drifting Kalamari

12-31-2013, 11:20 PM

I have a '91 UZ

MiamiZ33

01-02-2014, 11:05 AM

It would be great if Jifter could comment... It's hard to tell from his vid, but it looks like hes running a stock gauge cluster. Fries, you're right, everything I've read states it outputs a 4-cylinder signal, so in theory the Nissan cluster should work, but if it outputs a 5V square-wave instead of a 12V square-wave, then the Nissan cluster will freak out (this is my suspicion).

I borrowed a 5" Autometer tach from a buddy to see if that shows a clean tach signal. If this is the case, then we may need an MSD signal converter, at which point I'd probably ditch the stock cluster anyway since I'm only using Tach and Fuel level from it. I have an Autometer sport-comp Oil Pressure Gauge and Water Temp Gauge coming.

badass8

01-02-2014, 10:33 PM

Anyone doing the swap with the z33 transmission? Debating which one to do. I like how the z33 transmission handles a ton more power, but how much modding will need to be done is my worry.

turtle m3th

01-03-2014, 01:42 AM

badass8

01-03-2014, 02:19 AM

There isn't much work required to make it fit in the car (cut the shifter hole, whack the hell out of some key spots of the trans tunnel.) The transmission itself requires more work imho. You've gotta mill the bell housing down 5/8" then clearance the damn adapter plate because the clutch slave won't allow the bell housing to mount flush. Then you've gotta shorten the shifter assembly. It's all a bit of a process, but well worth it. I've done it a few times for customers.

Thank you. But that is a lot of work just to make shit fit haha. Might being going with the KA transmission then since I don't have tools at hand to do that. I really need to take welding/fabricating classes to customize my own stuff..

MiamiZ33

01-03-2014, 07:30 AM

I have a Z33 transmission in mine. Turtle is correct on all of his statements. I did not have to modify my trans tunnel, but the transmission does come mighty close to hitting.

The biggest problem for me is the fact that the transmission is now the lowest part of the frame by about 3/4". When I cage my car, I will be cutting out the bulk of the trans tunnel and making a new one so I can raise the tranny such that it is (at least) at the same height as the frame rails.... this is down the road though.

Check this out: http://zilvia.net/f/drivetrain/370705-z33-sr20-adapters-back-limited-quantities.html... I was unsure if the power of the 1UZ would be enough for me, so if I decided to add boost or upgrade later down the road, I wouldn't have to redo my mounts and driveshaft.

badass8

01-03-2014, 12:14 PM

Thank you for the link, I'll have to check it out and look at my funds. I still have a couple months until I even start purchasing parts for the swap. But That's exactly my dilemma just worried about the power gains over time. That link clearly showed how much stronger the z33 transmissions are compared to the SR trans.

I'll have to search around and get in contact with people in my area to see how much they charge for these modifications to the z33 transmission.

turtle m3th

01-03-2014, 02:51 PM

MiamiZ33, just remember that when you raise your trans you must also do so to your motor to maintain something close to a -3 degree slope so everything lines up properly to the diff. A good option for this would be to do subframe risers if you haven't already done so.

And for anyone interested in doing a z33 transmission in their s-chassis, NO AFTERMARKET TRANS ADAPTER IS NEEDED! you simply need to make an extension bracket with 4 holes in it.
Like so...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v197/kisssodivine/transbracket.jpeg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/kisssodivine/media/transbracket.jpeg.html)

MiamiZ33

01-03-2014, 02:59 PM

MiamiZ33, just remember that when you raise your trans you must also do so to your motor to maintain something close to a -3 degree slope so everything lines up properly to the diff. A good option for this would be to do subframe risers if you haven't already done so.

Is 3* a legit value? I'll measure mine this weekend out of curiosity. :l101:

Good suggestion turtle, I have a few things to keep in mind if I do this, including my headers. I suspect I will need to modify the collectors again since they are tucked pretty close up to the floor already, I doubt I'll have room if I move the trans up :duh:

...maybe it's not worth it, we'll see. Maybe I'll love the way it's set up now and won't want to change it.

turtle m3th

01-03-2014, 03:46 PM

My swaps end up around 3 degrees and have worked out just fine, so it's just a # I throw out from experience. But yeah, that is going to be a shitload of work if you do decide to go that route. Definitely something that is hard to approach as an after thought.

Fries

01-04-2014, 05:52 PM

Z33 put up some pics of your swap bromeo.

MiamiZ33

01-07-2014, 09:23 AM

Guys, I could really use some help:

My shitbox still isn't running right. After trying to diagnose a bunch of stuff, the car is still running really rough and has no power. It breaks up under load, and doesn't rev cleanly. I think it's down a few cylinders... all 8 are getting spark (I checked each one), but it smells super rich. If I spray starter fluid in the MAF while it's running, the revs pick up and smooth out and the engine sounds completely different.

One theory is my O2 sensors are 2" from the header outlet (still running open headers for now), and the reversion from the exhaust is pulling in ambient air which is freaking out the sensors. I started making my Y-pipe to test this theory, but I didn't get it done Sunday: http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac357/Mike_Gellatly/6478CFCD-F74D-4A3F-AA2F-3B078D0F79EE_zps7tlbz8tx.jpg

In hindsight, I could have started the car at this point and it would have told me what I needed to know, but I didn't. I want to make sure the exhaust isn't the issue before I start diagnosing sensors and wiring for a problem that may not exist.

So from what I can tell:
-all 8 cylinders are getting spark,
-all 8 plug wires are good and hooked up correctly
-TPS works (unplugged it and car died)

I hooked up the IACV, which was previously not plumbed. The EGR system is deleted entirely.

Any ideas?

Fries

01-07-2014, 09:35 AM

IACV wasn't set up prior?
I noticed that I had tons of vacuum lines broken all over, have you double checked those?

MiamiZ33

01-07-2014, 09:37 AM

Ive tried it with the IACV connected, and disconnected. I checked the vacuum at idle, and it's getting like 18 inHg.

Fries

01-07-2014, 09:40 AM

Do you have the check engine light wiredup?

MiamiZ33

01-07-2014, 09:41 AM

Do you have the check engine light wiredup?

Negatory... maybe I should spend the time to do so.

Fries

01-07-2014, 09:50 AM

Should only take 10 seconds to do man, might be worth it.

MiamiZ33

01-07-2014, 11:00 AM

Does anybody have a clean wiring writeup for the 1UZ swap? I've read through the others on Zilvia, and they are confusing and sometimes just plain wrong.

There's two connectors in my harness that are currently unaccounted for:

http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac357/Mike_Gellatly/350026E9-C07C-4E76-9897-61892C6F1336_zpstk54vrjf.jpg

^This single spade connector, near the water crossover in the front of the engine.

And a 4-wire ring terminal (with I believe two whites, and a white/stripe wire, with one other I can't remember the color of) at the back of the engine on the passenger side. I currently have this grounded to a bolt on the back of the passenger cylinder head.

Fries

01-07-2014, 12:16 PM

Is this the spade connector you were talking about?
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a30/James118/IMG_20140107_141036261_zps9ebf3a13.jpg It just goes on the back of the engine like you had it.

The other unidentified plug is the water temp sensor that connects to the water bridge, it's a needed plug. Without it the motor thinks it's always cold and will reduce power, run rich.

I think you found your problem brother.

MiamiZ33

01-07-2014, 12:21 PM

Yeah, thats the big mofo. I have it on the cylinder head, does it need to go on the block?

I thought there were two other water temp sensors that are connected with 2-pin connectors, just next to the thing you're talking about. I was just reading that it is a cold start sensor. Supposedly, the previous owner had an AEM temp sensor in this location, so I assume this single-pin dealy was not connected.

edit: I am now certain that is a cold start sensor, and there is a weird additional fitting on the fuel rail that goes to the underside of my intake manifold (which is apparently a 1000cc injector). I wonder if having this unhooked is causing the cold start injector to just fire constantly. That would explain the richness. Not sure if it explains why it doesn't like to run under load.

Fries

01-12-2014, 10:52 AM

Hey smart dudes. I need to know which plug near the fuse box deals with the alternator and where our starter signal wire comes from. I dont have the factory manual transmission harness so I'm buying replacement plugs from wiring specialties in order to wire it upmyself (Since I'm only needing, starter/alt and speed sensor plugs anyway)

A graphical representation would be very very helpful. Thanks dudes.

MiamiZ33

01-13-2014, 08:50 AM

shoguner

01-13-2014, 11:09 AM

Decided to remove my intake manifold to check for any weirdness and found this when I removed the TB:

http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac357/Mike_Gellatly/Mobile%20Uploads/C0D444DE-AAAB-45F3-BA5F-E3722A73AA4A_zps9y2wn0ue.jpg

Removed the original gasket, chunked it up with some RTV and now the car idles perfectly. BUT, it still does not drive under any load, and even when I flat rev it at WOT it breaks up.

Fries, I also wired the CEL and it is not throwing any codes.

Ideas?

Had a friend with almost the same symptom he had some water in his spark plug holes.
Check that.

I am also having an issue with my new engine. I have no voltage to my crank or cam sensors. Anyone had this issue? All wires are hooked up correctly (that i can see.) Injectors/ignitors have power, but the 5v to the crank/cam sensors are not there.

Fries

01-15-2014, 10:07 AM

Vongsayarath

01-17-2014, 10:49 AM

Just read through all pages. Decided im jumping in. Will update soon. Good work guys.

MiamiZ33

01-17-2014, 12:00 PM

Something wiring wise has gotta be wrong. They changed some little things between older/new motors.

Ordered a 1jz round alternator plug to see if it works on the older model 1uz alternators since mine did not come with the actual plug.

I got mine on ebay for $15... not as good as OEM (not waterproof), but still works for now -- because race car.

Update on my car is that its running decently, it still does not like anything past 40% throttle, it breaks up and misfires. I have new plug wires coming in today which is one of the few things I haven't replaced/swapped.

A buddy is going to lend me a known working ECU and a known working MAF as well this weekend.

PS - I had a small crack in my windshield which has now propagated into two 10" cracks because my engine is so loud and obnoxious. I love it.

Vongsayarath

01-18-2014, 09:10 PM

Fries

01-19-2014, 08:40 AM

Hey guys. Wondering if anyone would have a input here. But which year models didnt have the ecu immobilizer? Or. Did someone figure out a bypass?

Also to Turtle.....how much are you adapter plates for ka and mounts going for. Also curious on your processing times.

VVTI motors had the ecu immobilizer. So get a sub 1990-1996 motor and you'll be good

MrChow

01-19-2014, 03:38 PM

Hey guys. Wondering if anyone would have a input here. But which year models didnt have the ecu immobilizer? Or. Did someone figure out a bypass?

Also to Turtle.....how much are you adapter plates for ka and mounts going for. Also curious on your processing times.

Any 1uz motor from 98 and up are the vvti motor and all of them have immobilizer. I'm in the process of dealing with immobilizer I'll update once I get it finished.

Fries

01-23-2014, 02:54 PM

1jz alternator plug will fit on the early model 1uzs. I picked mine up from wiringspecialties.com

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Fries

01-26-2014, 11:07 AM

I guess you need to modify some shit with the starter to make it fit the flywheel right?
Also you need the stock spacer for the flywheel? I have like 2 spacers, is there a size difference?

imperium

01-29-2014, 01:00 AM

turtle m3th

01-30-2014, 09:22 AM

I wouldn't expect your order anytime soon. I had to open up a paypal claim to get my items in a decent time frame the last time I dealt with him.

MiamiZ33

01-30-2014, 09:34 AM

I haven't made any noise on here in a while, so I'll provide an update:

I got my car running two weeks ago! Runs like a champ now, I have been spending my time buttoning up the wiring/interior and beating the shit out of it whenever I get a chance. I haven't even taken any video or pics of it since it's been running correctly, but I will have something up this weekend I promise.

I won't go into the long-winded story of how I figured out what was wrong, but I will say that the igniters need to be grounded VERY well or else weird intermittent bad things happen :picardfp:

The car sounds nuts, it's crazy, it's loud, it's deafening (seriously, it's pretty deafening). Definitely slower than my Z, but since it's attacking all your senses, it seems faster.

88Coupe

01-30-2014, 04:35 PM

Getting ready to hopefully put one of these in my coupe. Cant wait!

JDMcheddar

01-30-2014, 06:42 PM

has anyone had any luck with Brett Collins lately? i ordered a swap kit on the 16th and on the 19th he emailed me to confirm some specifics about the order. i haven't heard anything else since but its only been a week, i want to give the guy the benefit of the doubt but it almost sounds like i shouldn't. I also don't want to get screwed over. not too sure what i should do at this point

Brett is a very standup guy. One of the nicest dudes in drifting. The adapter stuff is just something he does on the side and it kinda blew up faster then he was expecting. So don't worry about getting screwed over. It's just like anything sometimes you gotta just be a pain in the ass to get things quicker.