View Full Version : Larger capacity/size oil filter for SR20
halllon
06-05-2010, 02:03 PM
Hey guys,
Ay recommendations for larger capacity oil filters for the SR20 engine? Preferably OEM/cheap alternatives.
Thanks in advance!
sr24det
06-19-2010, 11:00 AM
I run the 300zxtt one its pretty large
jamanrr
06-19-2010, 04:20 PM
larger oil filters will tend to lower your oil pressure a bit. Not a good thing IMO.
codyace
06-21-2010, 01:16 PM
larger oil filters will tend to lower your oil pressure a bit. Not a good thing IMO.
Hahaha you're not serious are you?
I run a FL-1A Ford fitler with a remote kit, and lost no oil pressure, in fact it's impossible due to sensor location
jamanrr
06-21-2010, 03:22 PM
stick to things you know and not 240s --- Is there not a Honda forum that you can rape or did you stop going to them when you sold it and picked up your s13?
Now back to subject. Yes a bigger oil filter will lose a little bit of oil pressure as compared to smaller filters it is not much but if you do not relocate it then a nice Wix is great IMO. From experience the sandwich plates for oil filter relocation kits tend to rattle and can even give false knock to your sensor.
slider2828
06-21-2010, 04:30 PM
Can you even run a 300zx TT on a stock redtop or blacktop? Both have different threads...
codyace
06-21-2010, 11:36 PM
stick to things you know and not 240s --- Is there not a Honda forum that you can rape or did you stop going to them when you sold it and picked up your s13?
Now back to subject. Yes a bigger oil filter will lose a little bit of oil pressure as compared to smaller filters it is not much but if you do not relocate it then a nice Wix is great IMO. From experience the sandwich plates for oil filter relocation kits tend to rattle and can even give false knock to your sensor.
A larger filer shouldn't reduce pressure at all, being hat it's sourced on the inlet side of the filter itself.
Sandwich plates 'suck' IMO as well. I'd sooner a Tomie plate and remote setup if anything. But in reality, the stock filter is 'more than fine' for the O/P
!Zar!
06-22-2010, 01:47 PM
Why would an oil filter change drop pressure?
I could imagine it might take a little longer to build pressure if it was dry.
But once it is full and builds pressure, it would stay at that, no?
I see nothing wrong with the stock sized filter. Maybe if you were lazy, a larger filter would help change intervals. But they are so cheap, what's the point?
If you are trying to increase capacity, get a larger oil pan. An oil cooler will also increase your capacity somewhat, but that is pointless unless you are building more power than stock.
confuzed240
06-22-2010, 03:54 PM
stick to things you know and not 240s --- Is there not a Honda forum that you can rape or did you stop going to them when you sold it and picked up your s13?
Now back to subject. Yes a bigger oil filter will lose a little bit of oil pressure as compared to smaller filters it is not much but if you do not relocate it then a nice Wix is great IMO. From experience the sandwich plates for oil filter relocation kits tend to rattle and can even give false knock to your sensor.
Please stop posting here
You can use:
Toyota part number 90915-YZZF1--this is what I use, probably .25 quart extra and only 5 bucks!
Nissan sentra SE-R 15208-53J0A I think
Redtops = 91 SER ; Blacktop = 95 SER
codyace
06-22-2010, 09:38 PM
Please stop posting here
You can use:
Toyota part number 90915-YZZF1--this is what I use, probably .25 quart extra and only 5 bucks!
Nissan sentra SE-R 15208-53J0A I think
Redtops = 91 SER ; Blacktop = 95 SER
Redtop: 53J00
Blacktop: 65F00
:D
0wn3r
06-23-2010, 09:27 AM
stick to things you know and not 240s --- Is there not a Honda forum that you can rape or did you stop going to them when you sold it and picked up your s13?
Now back to subject. Yes a bigger oil filter will lose a little bit of oil pressure as compared to smaller filters it is not much but if you do not relocate it then a nice Wix is great IMO. From experience the sandwich plates for oil filter relocation kits tend to rattle and can even give false knock to your sensor.
So tell me how you KNOW Wix makes a better filter?
Which SR20 do you have OP?
codyace
06-23-2010, 10:54 AM
So tell me how you KNOW Wix makes a better filter?
Which SR20 do you have OP?
Save the energy, he's the new expert on the forum.
jamanrr
06-23-2010, 11:06 AM
So tell me how you KNOW Wix makes a better filter?
Which SR20 do you have OP?
I have an s14a motor from a 98 jdm Kouki. The WIX # 51365. I have ran the factory Nissan filter until it started being made in China. I also ran the NISMO JDM filter until I found the WIX filter. I looked inside both the Nismo and the WIX and the filter material is similar. Not only that the WIX filter has 8 oil holes like the factory Nissan and Nismo filter. The Bosch, Fram, Mobile 1 et. al. only have 4 to 6 holes if that. Plus NASCAR runs WIX filters and O'reillys sells them.
jamanrr
06-23-2010, 11:10 AM
Save the energy, he's the new expert on the forum.
Nope that role is saved for you and Doucheweks --
codyace
06-23-2010, 11:24 AM
I have an s14a motor from a 98 jdm Kouki. The WIX # 51365. I have ran the factory Nissan filter until it started being made in China. I also ran the NISMO JDM filter until I found the WIX filter. I looked inside both the Nismo and the WIX and the filter material is similar. Not only that the WIX filter has 8 oil holes like the factory Nissan and Nismo filter. The Bosch, Fram, Mobile 1 et. al. only have 4 to 6 holes if that. Plus NASCAR runs WIX filters and O'reillys sells them.
So you really believe that same WIX product you buy at Walmart is what they put on the side of a Hendrick motor? Get outa here. Ever considered the power of advertising in these sports? Think for a minute if Fram sponsered a Nascar...there would be a fram sticker on it.
Sometimes you need to take a few seconds and think outside the bun, sure it's scarey but it won't hurt.
I run a Ford FL1A on my car. I guess it'll blow.
Nope that role is saved for you and Doucheweks --
Sweet!
S14DB
06-23-2010, 11:27 AM
Now back to subject. Yes a bigger oil filter will lose a little bit of oil pressure as compared to smaller filters it is not much but if you do not relocate it then a nice Wix is great IMO. From experience the sandwich plates for oil filter relocation kits tend to rattle and can even give false knock to your sensor.
How do you loose oil pressure? Where does it go?
codyace
06-23-2010, 11:43 AM
How do you loose oil pressure? Where does it go?
Give him a second to google an answer for you :l101:
jamanrr
06-23-2010, 12:27 PM
How do you loose oil pressure? Where does it go?
it has to do with static pressure. It makes pressure drop a little to fill a larger filter than it does a smaller one. Lots of things affect oil pressure though as the engine wears. Why do you think most here including me probably will run a thicker oil during summer cause it will thin out with heat and break down. The ability to cool your car effectively and keeping a 10w 30 oil in viscosity go hand in hand. I have found out first hand that my car running into 200-210 degrees F has thinned my oil out pretty good resulting in low oil pressure. However, when I keep the temperatures low (through the use of mechanical fans) your oil pressure will be higher. I like for it to be around 15-20 psi and warm idle although the FSM states 11+ psi. I did not want to switch to a 20 w 50 or whatever oil to do the same thing.
Ghost240
06-23-2010, 12:32 PM
Jamanrr this is the second thread I've seen you start shit with codyace for no reason. Stop dick riding and being so salty. You won't last long in the community by harassing members especially ones with a great reputation on the board. So shut up and if you disagree take it to PMs. Geez.
jamanrr
06-23-2010, 12:36 PM
Jamanrr this is the second thread I've seen you start shit with codyace for no reason. Stop dick riding and being so salty. You won't last long in the community by harassing members especially ones with a great reputation on the board. So shut up and if you disagree take it to PMs. Geez.
Ok, Tell him to stop failing up my threads and all is good with me. Whatever, I learn from trail and error with comparisons not cause someone else said so and especially cause someone said I should use it from a forum.
S14DB
06-23-2010, 01:07 PM
it has to do with static pressure.
Isn't the static pressure regulated by the oil pump?
It makes pressure drop a little to fill a larger filter than it does a smaller one.
Most filters have a anti drain back valve in it. So, once it's filled after start up where's the difference?
Lots of things affect oil pressure though as the engine wears. Why do you think most here including me probably will run a thicker oil during summer cause it will thin out with heat and break down. The ability to cool your car effectively and keeping a 10w 30 oil in viscosity go hand in hand. I have found out first hand that my car running into 200-210 degrees F has thinned my oil out pretty good resulting in low oil pressure. However, when I keep the temperatures low (through the use of mechanical fans) your oil pressure will be higher. I like for it to be around 15-20 psi and warm idle although the FSM states 11+ psi. I did not want to switch to a 20 w 50 or whatever oil to do the same thing.
What does this have to do with the question at hand?
TheHustleHouse
06-23-2010, 03:18 PM
ka24de filter is a larger than the oem sr20det one. i used that on my redtop, screws right in.
0wn3r
06-23-2010, 11:06 PM
I have an s14a motor from a 98 jdm Kouki. The WIX # 51365. I have ran the factory Nissan filter until it started being made in China. I also ran the NISMO JDM filter until I found the WIX filter. I looked inside both the Nismo and the WIX and the filter material is similar. Not only that the WIX filter has 8 oil holes like the factory Nissan and Nismo filter. The Bosch, Fram, Mobile 1 et. al. only have 4 to 6 holes if that. Plus NASCAR runs WIX filters and O'reillys sells them.
Unfortunately looks don't count for ACTUAL filtering capabilities, flow, etc.
You mentioned trial and error, so if you've went and tested these and were able to repeat results that prove one is a superior filter then that's a different story. I'd actually like to see your results since I have the same motor as you.
How does location make a difference in regards to Nissan's decision to outsource production of that part #?
This isn't your thread btw, it's halllon's
jamanrr
06-24-2010, 06:34 AM
Unfortunately looks don't count for ACTUAL filtering capabilities, flow, etc.
You mentioned trial and error, so if you've went and tested these and were able to repeat results that prove one is a superior filter then that's a different story. I'd actually like to see your results since I have the same motor as you.
How does location make a difference in regards to Nissan's decision to outsource production of that part #?
This isn't your thread btw, it's halllon's
If you look at the construction of the filter. Some have more filter element than others such as the Wix and Nismo filter compared to the Fram or Chinese supplied Nissan OEM filter. Nissan Japan used to out source to a Japan company for production of their filter (Toyo Ryoki??) until they started adding a C to the part number and it went made in China. I would not want anything made in China on my car. Not bashing the country or their production methods but their metals tend to bend like easy putty.
I have nothing to say about relocation of the oil filter since Nissan did not really put it in a great location to begin with and that was not the purpose of my comments. If you took those filters the WIX is the only aftermarket production filter I have found to have the same number of filter holes as the OEM and Nismo filter. It was not super scientific cause I did not pull micro numbers from it but my Mobile 1 oil is out for analysis and I do not mind posting those numbers once I get them.
A larger filter will filter oil no better or worse than a smaller filter.
lazysk8er2
06-26-2010, 08:33 PM
parts master filters is made by wix. are they the same as well?
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