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driftsilvias13
05-10-2010, 03:00 PM
I have a track only s13 coupe that only gets driven at track events. I would love to drive my car on the street but would get pulled over and definitely get reffed.

I have another car which is another 2 seater and impractical which got me thinking about replacing my s13 with something more practical with 4 doors that I could still slide around at events.

The only Japanese RWD 4 door manual cars that come to mind that are 00' + are:

-Lexus IS300
-Infiniti G35 Sedan

Anyone slide around a g35 sedan or is300 before? I only know of RiskyDevil's is300 and I heard that the is300s are hard to slide without aftermarket suspension arms which are not readily available. I am also interested in the g35 sedan since I had a 350z before.

Any opinions, options, feedback?


http://ll.speedhunters.com/u/f/eagames/NFS/speedhunters.com/Images/Jacco%20Willemsen/Car%20Features/IS300%20ILL/dd24_058.jpg
http://fatlace.com/hellaflush/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/IMG_0434-copy.jpg

!Zar!
05-10-2010, 03:04 PM
IS300's don't need arms as bad as 240's do. You can slap coilovers on them, a diff, and have fun.

A friends IS3.
http://hphotos-sjc1.fbcdn.net/hs037.snc3/12432_192708135893_500840893_3562207_7970027_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-sjc1/hs037.snc3/12432_192708150893_500840893_3562210_1047625_n.jpg

fightinchunk
05-10-2010, 03:40 PM
aristo/gs300 are pretty bad ass too

driftsilvias13
05-10-2010, 03:43 PM
aristo/gs300 are pretty bad ass too

Yeah but they never came in manual here in the states. I dont want to have to do any transmission swaps, etc.

fightinchunk
05-10-2010, 04:13 PM
u don't want to stick with the w55 that came in the manual is300... r154 or v160. ur going to have to do some swapping one way or another

icedsole
05-10-2010, 04:17 PM
q45s could be used, s13 suspension is compatable on y33 chassis.

R_G
05-10-2010, 04:18 PM
Not Japanese but still saloon cars
Cadillac cts-v.
charger
300c srt-8

vvtisupra
05-10-2010, 04:23 PM
is300 has electric speed sensative steering. Might take a little to get use to.

!Zar!
05-10-2010, 04:23 PM
is300 has electric speed sensative steering. Might take a little to get use to.
Yeah, I dislike the steering/throttle by wire. But it is possible to remove the throttle by wire by using a sc300/supra throttle body and cable. But realistically, you'll get use to it after a while.

u don't want to stick with the w55 that came in the manual is300... r154 or v160. ur going to have to do some swapping one way or another
The w55 holds up fine for about 300hp. So I wouldn't count it out yet. I abuse my w55, as are other people I know who have 300 or less hp.

Once you build more power than that, you would want to look into the r154 option, but only after you have Marlin upgrade the thrust washer cover (r154 weak point). V160 would be cool, but pricy.

WISH ONE
05-10-2010, 04:54 PM
http://www.good-guys.com/images/news/1413_Lexas_AGT.JPG

singlecamslam
05-10-2010, 05:08 PM
There arent a lot of Options like there is in Japan. I would LOVE to own a jzx100, they come turbo and manual stock. I'm kinda in the same boat as you, i want a 4 door daily that i can also slide, and i do not want to start swapping shit since my coupe has plenty to swap out. I would drive a cressida, but those are pretty old and 7m motors are poopy. Had one cressida in my life, headgasket blew, haha.

DreamN
05-10-2010, 05:25 PM
Crown vic with 5 speed swap and supercharger. Done.

YouTube - 650 RWHP Police Car (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAWuHvVCI6g)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAWuHvVCI6g

BlueKpS13
05-10-2010, 05:30 PM
cefiro. duh

fcdrifter20
05-10-2010, 06:03 PM
Crown vic with 5 speed swap and supercharger. Done.


YUP!!! i played around in one of those police interceptors before. Even at stock those things are pretty fun to beat on.

DreamN
05-10-2010, 06:12 PM
I <3 my Town Car. It's a comfy ride with enough power to have some in. Plus the fact that there is a decent aftermarket support makes it even better.

spoolandslide
05-10-2010, 06:19 PM
Toyota Cressida to keep your dollars down.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3044/2636187686_ff6b8944ed_b.jpg

!Zar!
05-10-2010, 06:49 PM
Why the fuck are you all talking about shitty cressidas and jdm cars when he specified that he wants something close to a year 2000 car and something that is LEGAL.

silviaguy240
05-10-2010, 06:59 PM
BMW 540i, V8, 280hp (more like 300), 320 tq, 6spd. same engine in my 740 and it hauls pretty good. plus the 540 is ~600 lbs less. theres cheap coils for em, only bad/hard thing is to get a good differential.

PRADOgy
05-10-2010, 07:17 PM
Why the fuck are you all talking about shitty cressidas and jdm cars when he specified that he wants something close to a year 2000 car and something that is LEGAL.

He said
"The only Japanese RWD 4 door manual cars that come to mind that are 00' + are"

Which means not limited to type of make and only thing that he can think of. NOT ANYTHING CLOSE TO OR SPECIFIED YEAR HE WANTS TO PURCHASE.

andmattsayd
05-10-2010, 07:24 PM
http://carher0.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/p1sdfgt443.jpg?w=800&h=600
http://carher0.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/p3-12.jpg?w=800&h=532

RiversideS13
05-10-2010, 07:46 PM
cefiro. duh

eh? you wanna drift in a maxima?

DataXUnknown
05-10-2010, 08:28 PM
I had a Cressida, they are really fun cars. Very comfy too. Just know if you drift it, the stock 5MGE's and 7MGE's are headgasket-blow happy. Plus you'd probably want to do a 1jz swap anyway. They don't come manual in the states, so you'd have to do the r154 swap on them anyway. So you can probably rule out Cressida's.

I really love the is300 and wanted to get one for awhile now. I say go with the is300. It's perfect for daily, and looks like just fun enough to have a great time at the track with some minor mods!

I don't think I've ever seen a g35 sedan drifting, I know I've seen plenty of coupes though

drftwerks
05-10-2010, 08:38 PM
this is to replace the track car?
sounds like recipe for financial disaster.
esp since those cars are out of warrantee

if i was ballin like j.bieber

id rock this non peasant ass shit.

http://crazymax999.web.infoseek.co.jp/public_html/ori-IMG_9773.jpg

flip3d
05-10-2010, 08:46 PM
J30. Do it.

soreballz
05-10-2010, 08:56 PM
I had a Cressida, they are really fun cars. Very comfy too. Just know if you drift it, the stock 5MGE's and 7MGE's are headgasket-blow happy. Plus you'd probably want to do a 1jz swap anyway. They don't come manual in the states, so you'd have to do the r154 swap on them anyway. So you can probably rule out Cressida's.

MX73s DID come with 5speeds in the states. And the headgasket thing is an easy ass thing to prevent.


Anywho. I say go with the G35 sedan if you have the coin to do so.

driftsilvias13
05-10-2010, 10:40 PM
Why the fuck are you all talking about shitty cressidas and jdm cars when he specified that he wants something close to a year 2000 car and something that is LEGAL.

Zar is right, most of the cars mentioned are either cars that were never sold here, cressidas which are old as hell or gs300s with some sort of motor/tranny swap.

Specifically asked for Japanese Sedans that are the year 2000 and newer that are street legal that came manual. Of course I would love to build a 600+hp GS with a 2jz-gte but I definitely dont need another money pit. I tried the whole buy a daily and have a track car but it just doesnt work for me because I get bored so easily.

I understand the financial part but of drifting a luxury sedan but to me it really wouldn't be any different from drifting the 350zs that I used to have. Maybe I will just have to get a 350z again.

Matador
05-10-2010, 10:54 PM
And why arent you looking to swap out the impractical 2 seater daily instead of the track car?

SmokeCircle
05-10-2010, 11:14 PM
http://ll.speedhunters.com/u/f/eagames/NFS/speedhunters.com/Images/Mike%20Garrett/1Nissan/driftsedan/drift12.jpg

driftsilvias13
05-11-2010, 01:05 AM
And why arent you looking to swap out the impractical 2 seater daily instead of the track car?

Selling that car is not an option as it is one of my dream cars.


Is the g35 sedan basically a 350z but heavier? Does anyone know if they share the same suspension/arms as the coupe?

!Zar!
05-11-2010, 01:15 AM
He said
"The only Japanese RWD 4 door manual cars that come to mind that are 00' + are"

Which means not limited to type of make and only thing that he can think of. NOT ANYTHING CLOSE TO OR SPECIFIED YEAR HE WANTS TO PURCHASE.
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Readingcomprehension.com
Grammaronline.com
JUSSAYIN
Zar is right, most of the cars mentioned are either cars that were never sold here, cressidas which are old as hell or gs300s with some sort of motor/tranny swap.

Specifically asked for Japanese Sedans that are the year 2000 and newer that are street legal that came manual. ...

OP: I think your best bet is an is3. Can be had in manual for under 10k, and as long as you stick to only buying coilovers and a better diff, that is about 2k in mods.

ILoveMyRHS13
05-11-2010, 01:19 AM
The sedan to end all sedans... Too bad they're not sold in the States.
http://media.driftworks.com/Phil/JX100Chaser1.jpg

PS- I'm aware this is about what can be bought in the US. Chasers are just so good.

RiversideS13
05-11-2010, 01:33 AM
alternative of IS300 and G35 sedan, IS250 comes with 6 speed manual but underpowered.

andmattsayd
05-11-2010, 01:54 AM
ugh.
http://carher0.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/19t7a.jpg?w=750&h=451

R_G
05-11-2010, 04:12 AM
I had a Cressida, they are really fun cars. Very comfy too. Just know if you drift it, the stock 5MGE's and 7MGE's are headgasket-blow happy. Plus you'd probably want to do a 1jz swap anyway.


7mgte is best , bro. :kiss: LULZ

R_G
05-11-2010, 04:15 AM
The sedan to end all sedans... Too bad they're not sold in the States.
http://media.driftworks.com/Phil/JX100Chaser1.jpg

PS- I'm aware this is about what can be bought in the US. Chasers are just so good.


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murda-c
05-11-2010, 06:46 AM
http://cache.jalopnik.com/assets/resources/2007/02/pontiac_g8_gt_show_car.jpg

haha

thefro526
05-11-2010, 07:07 AM
Just out of curiosity, is there a reason you're just looking at Japanese cars?

If not, I'd look at either a BMW 325i or 330i. You can pick them up for nearly nothing, and there is extensive aftermarket for them if you know where to look. Some stuff is on the pricey side, but it's that way with anything newer. I know my 325ci is plenty fun sideways and I'd be building that to slide if I didn't owe money on it.

WanganRunner
05-11-2010, 07:26 AM
IS300 manual seems to be the only decent option.

hailandkill
05-11-2010, 08:55 AM
for the 10k an is3 would cost you could look on clublexus for an already swapped first gen gs300.

and somewhat off topic, does anyone have a link to information about a manual swap for a first gen gs3?

i can't find crap.

and i don't mean gte swaps, just manual swaps.

!Zar!
05-11-2010, 10:32 AM
I've seen Is3's that were manual stock sell for 7k on occasion.

gs3 manual swaps are a pain in the ass. So you're pretty much on your own for that.

TwelveAM
05-11-2010, 10:37 AM
http://www.good-guys.com/images/news/1413_Lexas_AGT.JPG

Normally don't like these cars, but this one looks sick. :cool:

C*bass
05-11-2010, 10:38 AM
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a143/dreadseb/PA023390.jpg

? Needs new coilovers and tuning before action shots are even plausible...

deolio
05-11-2010, 10:55 AM
i went through this same shit between is300 and g35 sedan. the is seems to cost a bit more to get it looking right, but it will perform better for less money. the g can look good with just coils, a lip, and wheels, but it'll take a ton more to make it handle like a much lighter car, at which point you might as well have a coupe anyway... if i were you i'd keep the s13 for track and replace your "impractical two seater" with a sedan.

Highway Riding
05-11-2010, 11:01 AM
GS's (300/400) FTMFW

VIPDRFT
05-11-2010, 12:20 PM
The IS300 is perfect for what you're looking for. DOIT!

driftsilvias13
05-11-2010, 12:20 PM
I dont know, the is3 and the g35 sedan just dont do it for me. After seeing this:
http://ll.speedhunters.com/u/f/eagames/NFS/speedhunters.com/Images/Mike%20Garrett/1August/D1%20Ebisu/ebisu4.jpg

I'll probably keep my s13 for now..

DALAZ_68
05-11-2010, 12:32 PM
The sedan to end all sedans... Too bad they're not sold in the States.
http://media.driftworks.com/Phil/JX100Chaser1.jpg

PS- I'm aware this is about what can be bought in the US. Chasers are just so good.


soo fucking hot...:naughty:

driftsilvias13
06-24-2010, 01:25 PM
I still have to know if anyone knows if the g35 sedan 6spd is pretty much identical to drifting a 350z/g35 coupe?

5pecialist
06-24-2010, 02:00 PM
G35, M35, J30

/thread

OLDSCHOOLRICER
06-24-2010, 02:46 PM
Q45 with vh45de and mazworx vg 5 speed trans swap

91300zxttkid
06-24-2010, 02:49 PM
This Thread is sick lol

deolio
06-24-2010, 03:02 PM
I still have to know if anyone knows if the g35 sedan 6spd is pretty much identical to drifting a 350z/g35 coupe?

well it's got the same wheels base as the coupe and weighs about the same... so yeah, pretty much identical to the coupe. 200lbs more and 8 inches longer than the z though.

thenooblet
06-24-2010, 04:18 PM
get an is300, less weight=better

s14_rebirth
06-24-2010, 07:19 PM
id go is fersure. g35 sounds way too heavy

DenkiMan!
06-24-2010, 07:26 PM
dammit havnt u seen tokyo drift?!?! GET THE EVO!!!! :rawk: lol

keeeban
06-24-2010, 10:50 PM
dammit havnt u seen tokyo drift?!?! GET THE EVO!!!! :rawk: lol

Sorry, Evos aren't RWD. :D

I wish Chasers were available here in the states.. sigh. One of my favoritesss.

My buddy just got an IS300 with 70k miles for 8k from the original owner. Has a few mods here and there, but no problems at all.

I'd say go for the IS300, good deals pop up once in a while. Just a matter of patience!

arsenics14
06-24-2010, 11:19 PM
I would say is300... My friend has a turbo one, with just coilovers, here is a vid.
YouTube - Eric's Turbo is300 drifting (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFuO5xeYl9s)

Jeezy240
06-24-2010, 11:37 PM
all i know is that my friends is300 is making 470 on stock 2jzge vvt bottom end, headgasket/arp studs with a SRT kit. its pretty bad ass.

http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh297/islidesidewayz/brandondrifting.jpg

Finchie
06-25-2010, 01:28 AM
4 doors fits more whores!

Haha. I'd think drifting a 4 door car is pretty expensive given your options.

dtfdanyo
06-25-2010, 07:58 AM
http://www.good-guys.com/images/news/1413_Lexas_AGT.JPG

gawd damn this gs is sex. It has an ls swap *droolz*

and I agree with everyone, why can't chases be available in the US :(

5pecialist
06-25-2010, 08:26 AM
get an is300, less weight=better
G35 & IS300 are about the same weight :duh: G35 has more horses, too, so the extra few pounds are cancelled out.

id go is fersure. g35 sounds way too heavy
See above comment...

DenkiMan!
06-25-2010, 03:17 PM
Sorry, Evos aren't RWD. :D


(mr.t voice) i kno they arent rwd fool! i was trying to pull a funny. i do hope that u kno they did convert it and it is possible although expensive to use them for drifting.

theres currently a wrx and an evo x in japan's D1 competition driven by Naoto Suenaga and Nobushige Kumakubo respectively

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3111/3187422351_8f38358f05.jpg

http://www.autospecsltd.com/Team_Orange_Subaru_JUC_EDC.jpg

djcobra
06-25-2010, 04:22 PM
Love that GS (Aristo) going sideways!

Also a proud owner of a GS 430 :)

raz0rbladez909
06-25-2010, 06:45 PM
(mr.t voice) i kno they arent rwd fool! i was trying to pull a funny. i do hope that u kno they did convert it and it is possible although expensive to use them for drifting.

theres currently a wrx and an evo x in japan's D1 competition driven by Naoto Suenaga and Nobushige Kumakubo respectively

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3111/3187422351_8f38358f05.jpg

http://www.autospecsltd.com/Team_Orange_Subaru_JUC_EDC.jpg

why would you want to ruin an EVO/ STI by converting it to rwd? yes I get the whole drift thing in japan, where it is done by shops that have the money to do so, but it seems like a pointless way to spend more money to fuck up an awesome handling car. But to get back on topic, I normally wouldn't say this but why not try an American car, the G8 is pretty damn fast, and can take whatever you throw at it, not to mention can probably be had without the "JDM" markup on parts and actual purchase price, and the gas mileage is surprisingly good for a v8.

Mi Beardo es Loco
06-25-2010, 07:15 PM
someone at q45.org did a rb25 tranny swap with the vh45 so it's legal. It's an older car and a tranny swap would be necessary, two of which you said you didn't want, but I thought it was pretty cool.

YouTube - 1994 Q45 5 speed around town (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ERUkEqTdm8&feature=PlayList&p=10A624B2223272B8&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=3)

LoneStarSilvia
06-26-2010, 12:38 PM
IS3's aren't bad at all for drifting. I completely enjoyed mine and I was super surprised at how easy it was to get loose and keep control. It was nearly as easy as my S14 that had a 2 way, but ofcourse the IS3 is quite underpowered. Mine had full exhaust, headers, sway bars and coilovers. Ebrake, clutch kick, ebrake, clutch kick, ebrake, clutch kick. Shit was nuts! I miss the comfy DD lifestyle it gave me too. The torsen LSD was surprisingly pretty kick ass.

http://i46.tinypic.com/j748ao.jpg
2nd day I owned it haha.

http://i34.tinypic.com/35d28oo.jpg
http://i48.tinypic.com/x3ioh1.jpg
http://i50.tinypic.com/1z6s9as.jpg

Plus they look pretty damn good when done up right.

http://i50.tinypic.com/iolna8.jpg

There's a ton of better examples of what you can do with those.

DenkiMan!
06-26-2010, 02:11 PM
why would you want to ruin an EVO/ STI by converting it to rwd? yes I get the whole drift thing in japan, where it is done by shops that have the money to do so, but it seems like a pointless way to spend more money to fuck up an awesome handling car. But to get back on topic, I normally wouldn't say this but why not try an American car, the G8 is pretty damn fast, and can take whatever you throw at it, not to mention can probably be had without the "JDM" markup on parts and actual purchase price, and the gas mileage is surprisingly good for a v8.

lol ok i wasnt quite being serious about having an evo or a sti as a realistic option as a 4 door drift car haha but if you want to buy a brand new $40,000 car to start drifting in then be my guest. lol you might have more fun doing a ridiculous swap with more aftermarket support

and the g8 gets horrible gas mileage...theres no other reasonably priced american 4 door rwd 5/6 speed that i can think of. which is why i wud never go american in that regard

Slidin' Sam
06-26-2010, 06:43 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

the other big thing to consider is aftermarket support/availability of parts too! Many people would love to get out of s-chassis, but for some, it's just not economical to do so. I know I have somehow invested/acquired too much to just step away from my s-chassis and build something new that I have NO parts for.

To the OP: Your best bet may just be to wait a few more years until c33's are easy to import and then just swap everything from your s-chassis into one of those and have a kick-ass 4dr!

93superHICAS
06-27-2010, 11:13 AM
el es fo hundrud

http://ll.speedhunters.com/u/f/eagames/NFS/speedhunters.com/Images/Linhbergh2010/June2010/Car%20Spotlight/beatls/IMG_2794.jpg

CAR SPOTLIGHT>> THE LS MISSILE - Speedhunters (http://speedhunters.com/archive/2010/06/18/car-spotlight-gt-gt-the-ls-missle.aspx)

keeeban
06-27-2010, 02:43 PM
el es fo hundrud

http://ll.speedhunters.com/u/f/eagames/NFS/speedhunters.com/Images/Linhbergh2010/June2010/Car%20Spotlight/beatls/IMG_2794.jpg

CAR SPOTLIGHT>> THE LS MISSILE - Speedhunters (http://speedhunters.com/archive/2010/06/18/car-spotlight-gt-gt-the-ls-missle.aspx)

Looks like the rear got raped.

tryangle
06-27-2010, 03:11 PM
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c26/turbomigo/LS147.jpg
Just an option, Lincoln LS, they do come in 5speed and have a decent aftermarket and come with V8s too.
EDIT: the hood and front fenders are aluminum also.

liv2drift045
06-28-2010, 03:30 AM
THat shit would be HARD

maplejesse
06-28-2010, 04:06 AM
sup yall

????????? - D1 Driver Inose Drifitng his 1200PS (Max Output) JZX110 - ???-??? ??? (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x46h9m_d1-driver-inose-drifitng-his-1200ps_auto)

sedans

silviaguy240
06-28-2010, 11:18 AM
and the g8 gets horrible gas mileage...theres no other reasonably priced american 4 door rwd 5/6 speed that i can think of. which is why i wud never go american in that regard

what? the G8 GXP's 6 speed have the same gear ratios as corvette's/gto's which have a t56 and get like 26-30mpg's on the highway.

raz0rbladez909
06-28-2010, 12:34 PM
what? the G8 GXP's 6 speed have the same gear ratios as corvette's/gto's which have a t56 and get like 26-30mpg's on the highway.

Thats what I thought too, besides who's worried about gas mileage in their "drift daily driver"?:cool:

cantdrift11
06-28-2010, 12:46 PM
does this change your mind about the SXE10.....
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k188/cantdrift/nyzlm9.jpg

DenkiMan!
06-28-2010, 03:50 PM
what? The g8 gxp's 6 speed have the same gear ratios as corvette's/gto's which have a t56 and get like 26-30mpg's on the highway.

im not sure how thats supposed to give the car the same gas mileage since the motor is different. here ill give u some links that tell the g8's mpg...its not pretty

Pontiac prices G8 GXP just under $40,000 (http://www.autoweek.com/article/20081216/FREE/812169984)

Review: 2009 Pontiac G8 GXP | The Truth About Cars (http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/review-200-pontiac-g8-gxp/)

Review: 2009 Pontiac G8 GXP &mdash; Autoblog (http://www.autoblog.com/2008/11/21/in-the-autoblog-garage-2008-pontiac-g8-gxp/)

http://www.edmunds.com/pontiac/g8/2009/testdrive.html

its a huge gas guzzler, in fact its worse than the LS3 Corvette lol

raz0rbladez909
06-29-2010, 06:38 PM
im not sure how thats supposed to give the car the same gas mileage since the motor is different. here ill give u some links that tell the g8's mpg...its not pretty

Pontiac prices G8 GXP just under $40,000 (http://www.autoweek.com/article/20081216/FREE/812169984)

Review: 2009 Pontiac G8 GXP | The Truth About Cars (http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/review-200-pontiac-g8-gxp/)

Review: 2009 Pontiac G8 GXP &mdash; Autoblog (http://www.autoblog.com/2008/11/21/in-the-autoblog-garage-2008-pontiac-g8-gxp/)

2009 Pontiac G8 GXP Test Drive on Edmunds.com (http://www.edmunds.com/pontiac/g8/2009/testdrive.html)

its a huge gas guzzler, in fact its worse than the LS3 Corvette lol

the car is almost 1000 lbs heavier than a corvette as well what's your point?
Side-by-Side Comparison (http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/sbs.htm)
that should be the only website you really need to check the fuel economy, and if you compare it to the gs/ls you're getting wayyyyyy more performance for only slightly worse city mpg highway mpg is rated at 24 mpg where as those lexus's are 21 at best? i still don't get the whole worrying about gas mileage if you're comparing it to just as heavy lexus's with way less power/performance for the buck

DenkiMan!
06-29-2010, 08:16 PM
the car is almost 1000 lbs heavier than a corvette as well what's your point?
Side-by-Side Comparison (http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/sbs.htm)
that should be the only website you really need to check the fuel economy, and if you compare it to the gs/ls you're getting wayyyyyy more performance for only slightly worse city mpg highway mpg is rated at 24 mpg where as those lexus's are 21 at best? i still don't get the whole worrying about gas mileage if you're comparing it to just as heavy lexus's with way less power/performance for the buck

well played sir, i will use that site from now on.

but i never said i was comparing it to any lexus at all. i was just zeroing in on the fact that you suggested a G8 for drifting. i mean also thats different viewpoints. if you think 13mpg is only slightly worse then i wont argue that, thats what you think and i respect that...but personally i think thats a notable difference. i just dont think a G8 is a car to start drifting in. and of course your getting way more performance, its a 6.0L lol compared to like a 3.0L. a IS300 with a 1JZ or 2JZ swap even will run you less than dumping $40k into a brand new car if you REALLY want a 4 door drift car and it would fair pretty well. i think at least, correct me if im wrong.

raz0rbladez909
06-29-2010, 09:41 PM
well played sir, i will use that site from now on.

but i never said i was comparing it to any lexus at all. i was just zeroing in on the fact that you suggested a G8 for drifting. i mean also thats different viewpoints. if you think 13mpg is only slightly worse then i wont argue that, thats what you think and i respect that...but personally i think thats a notable difference. i just dont think a G8 is a car to start drifting in. and of course your getting way more performance, its a 6.0L lol compared to like a 3.0L. a IS300 with a 1JZ or 2JZ swap even will run you less than dumping $40k into a brand new car if you REALLY want a 4 door drift car and it would fair pretty well. i think at least, correct me if im wrong.

well it wasn't intended to compare the g8 to the IS300, i actually think the IS300 is one of the better cars suggested so far, it was more along the lines of the hefty GS's and LS's that everyone keeps suggesting as drift cars, and used g8's can be had for quite a bit less than 40k i was thinking more along the lines of what the thread starter said he wanted something that didn't have to have a swap to be worthwhile

TougeLove
06-29-2010, 10:02 PM
Anyone consider doing the toyota mark II conversion? i was looking at maybe an older camry or ls400. they seem to be slightly similar.

DenkiMan!
06-29-2010, 10:05 PM
well it wasn't intended to compare the g8 to the IS300, i actually think the IS300 is one of the better cars suggested so far, it was more along the lines of the hefty GS's and LS's that everyone keeps suggesting as drift cars, and used g8's can be had for quite a bit less than 40k i was thinking more along the lines of what the thread starter said he wanted something that didn't have to have a swap to be worthwhile

yea i understand that. and its proving to be a difficult task. so far ppl have only come up with the IS/GS/LS...each will be pricey to fortify as drift cars

G8's a possibility, cressida, lol RX-8 is technically a 4 door, all the others are in Japan really

raz0rbladez909
06-29-2010, 11:52 PM
i guess to throw in some others in the mix that we do have over here, the infiniti Q45, J30, M35, Bmw 3 series sedans, 5 series, i guess the rx8 is a mix but i'd classify it as more of a coupe, if you're a baller the is-f but only comes auto, ugh i guess we need more performance sedans

turtl631
06-30-2010, 07:56 PM
E36 and E46 sedans are plentiful, pretty cheap, and the parts that matter are reliable. E36 M3 sedans are under 10k with higher miles, and I'm not sure about the E46s off hand but I'd imagine you can find some sedans for pretty cheap, although no E46 M3 sedan exists. Can't argue with a nice NA straight 6, they're smooth and make okay power. Electronics will break, but if this is gonna be a drift car too I doubt you care.

silviaguy240
06-30-2010, 11:10 PM
plus the rears chassis are weak. some substantial bracing is needed if you dont want to tear the rear half of the car in two.

soreballz
07-01-2010, 07:19 AM
RX-8 is technically a 4 door, all the others are in Japan really
Regardless of it's number of doors; the RX-8 is still a coupe, so that's out.

driftsilvias13
09-09-2010, 01:02 PM
Okay so for sure I am getting another car and am considering the is300 5spd.
I'd figure I slap on a 2way and some suspension. Does anyone make a knuckle kit for this car yet?
My biggest fear is that coming from an S-chassis, I wont get used to the steering of the is300.

http://a.imageshack.us/img411/5040/altezza.jpg
I really like the way this one looks

VIPDRFT
09-09-2010, 01:16 PM
Yes, there are a couple companies that do.

GP Sports Super Knuckle Angle Kit Toyota (http://www.rhdjapan.com/gp-sports-super-knuckle-angle-kit-toyota-62539)
http://www.rhdjapan.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/5e06319eda06f020e43594a9c230972d/i/m/image5_19_19.jpg

C-ONE Quick Steering Knuckle (http://www.rhdjapan.com/c-one-quick-steering-knuckle-52332)
http://www.rhdjapan.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/5e06319eda06f020e43594a9c230972d/52332/Image/Normal/Image1.jpg

These ones below are for the JZX chassis, but I'm sure they could/would make some for the IS.

Hey Man! Products
http://www.rhdjapan.com/hey-man-products-saito-daigo-sp-knuckles-62025

Billspeer
http://csgarage.wordpress.com/2010/08/23/billspeer-jzx90jzx100-ultimate-knuckles/
http://teamblink.wordpress.com/2010/09/06/jzx90100-billspeer/

franklin93zx
09-09-2010, 02:19 PM
G35, M35, J30

/thread
j30? J Fucking 30?! that looks like it was shitted out by man bear pig then introduced to infiniti and for some dumb reason put out for the public to purchase.

travisty_
09-10-2010, 08:15 PM
I support the idea of an is300, the steering shouldn't be much of an issue at all to get used to.

Eye candy:
http://www.canibeat.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/second_time_around9.jpg
http://www.canibeat.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/second_time_around4.jpg
http://www.canibeat.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/IMG_0544.jpg

http://www.canibeat.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/JPG_0425.jpg

One of my favorite sedans.

articdragon192
09-11-2010, 09:41 PM
Eww, BBS RS on a car made after 1990.

!Zar!
09-11-2010, 10:10 PM
is300 is a shitty car to try and make vip.

FACT

driftsilvias13
09-13-2010, 02:34 PM
is300 is a shitty car to try and make vip.

FACT

I agree 100%

aznbo187
09-14-2010, 05:50 AM
I think the RS' on the IS would look goof if the car was a different color. Maybe pearl white.

VIPDRFT
09-14-2010, 05:41 PM
This one ain't half bad.
Sexy One, Oh! (SXE10) | FR SEDAN (http://frsedan.com/2010/09/09/sexy-one-oh-sxe10/)

articdragon192
09-15-2010, 01:32 AM
I wish we would have gotten this car instead :/
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_fyC_l6VYL98/Sw4h9OjDDwI/AAAAAAAAAL8/SrLd2ajS2FA/s1600/noriyaro_haruyama_wonder_c35_laurel_nikko_16by9.jp g
http://www.iputinwork.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/c35laurel_meisters1_01.jpg

VIPDRFT
09-15-2010, 08:35 AM
You could slide a Q45. They look kinda similar. LOL

http://ll.speedhunters.com/u/f/eagames/NFS/speedhunters.com/Images/Mike%20Garrett/FLUKE%20NIKKO%206-11/fluke26.jpg