Natural Disaster Conspiracy

[kingkilburn]

This is a place to let it all hang out. If you have a disaster some one has a perp.

Lets here 'em. Bonus points for theories that directly oppose\conflict each other.

[Mikey213]

Apparently... the Scientologists' are on top of this HARRRRPPP SHIT. Had to go on a field trip while I was in med school about 2 years ago in sunset here in LA. It's one of their museums called the museum of death. It's mainly on the truth about psych meds which is pretty crazy, I think everyone should go here just to check it out. At the end it randomly has an exhibition on all the crazy newer gov. shit and haarp was one of them ahahaha

oh btw it's free. Plus it's not Directly a Scientology recruitment place. Got scared for a min didn't want to go in and end up like Tom ahahahaha it has nothing to do with it but i think it's owned by them.

[kingkilburn]

I love one group says that Russia has had weather control and is fucking us up with it, the only reason we are ok is because Israel has it to and they stand up for us.

The other group says WE have weather control and the government is using on every one.

Now they say this weather control technology is causing the earth quakes.

I have to ask, which one is it? You can't keep both theories.

[zspeedrft]

2012.........

[murda-c]

Weather dominator!

Also HAARP causes mackerel clouds. They are not natural weather phenomena. HAARP is doing it from the other side of the planet.

[Agamemnon]

Weather dominator!

Also HAARP causes mackerel clouds. They are not natural weather phenomena. HAARP is doing it from the other side of the planet.

And you are basing this off of what exactly?

[SUPERSTAR]

I blame the chilli cheese fries. They fuck shit up.

[murda-c]

And you are basing this off of what exactly?

A video on youtube and articles in a south american tabloid!

[ONYX S-13]

Check out the documentary "holes is heaven H.A.A.R.P". It'll explain everything.. I hate govt.

They themselves say they can manipulate the weather and even the minds of people (to a degree).. Scarey/annoying at the same time.. They are willing to develop this technology at the expense of lives and the planet.

Again, they themselves say they don't know how far they can push the envelope this before they cause irreversible damage to the earth.

[kingkilburn]

Refer to post #3.

[nek nek s14]

ya i read about HAARP shit fucks with our weather... i think it cause most big disaster in our world... fuck the govt

[ONYX S-13]

"We shoot 30 watts into the ground to find pockets of natural resources...... H.A.A.R.P shoots BILLIONS of watts.......... The result can easily be an earthquake..."

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[hellion240sx]

My friend, today, told me that he spent six years in Alaska. I asked him if he knew about nome (sp?) He said no, but I kno w about HARP. I was like what's that. then he told me the jist of it and how Katrina might have been a result of them F$%^king with the weather... hmmm i must look into this :)

[supervenom]

You guys remember the hottest day in LA ever a few months ago...? 113 degress in Downtown Los Angeles.

I think the General in charge of the weather machine was f**king up. He/she failed to properly adjust the flow of warm air from the gulf to counter the cold mass sent east from Asia. Radar shots of that day show a warm current coming from the south and curving westward in Baja California then hangs a right around Washington state. That warm current from the gulf never runs west of the Rockies. This time it went waaaaay west of the Rockies. It was used to counter a cold front sent our way. If the cold front would have crossed over the Rockies and collided with the warm front over "Tornado Ally", it would have been a disaster!

Weather control was established as possible in the 1950's!

[fckillerbee]

fuck yeah...haarp. I watched those videos too....

if it's possible....we put military in haiti....when they didn't want military. one of south america's presidents was talking shit....we sent them a message. Mexico started talking shit...hit them with an earthquake too...

who wants some? lol. but no really....major disasters bring people together...get ready for 2012. lol

[TheWolf]

I remember HAARP... cept it was called the broadcast energy transmitter..

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[SochBAT]

You guys are a bunch of idiots.

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[supervenom]

From the 1950's I think.

http://graphicsworkshop.net/blog/Images/weather_control.jpg

Imagine what may be possible today...

[Michael Nolan]

Paleomagnitism.... nuff said.

[hellion240sx]

From the 1950's I think.

http://graphicsworkshop.net/blog/Images/weather_control.jpg

Imagine what may be possible today...

gotta bigger pic?

[supervenom]

No. Its the only version of the pics that iwas able to find. There may be bigger versions of it out there though.

[somanyparts310]

The greatest challenge to a Nations ability to conduct war is opposition from the its citizens.
Vietnam ended because of protest in America. Nuclear weapons were not used in Korea becuse the American people would not have stood by and let it happen.
World War 3 started in early 2001. War has been conducted in a fashion that the world has not learned to recognise as war. This has allowed war to be conducted with minimal protest from "The People"

These are inserts from the book written by two Chinese Col. in regards to defeating America.

Notice how it will not speak of dropping bombs from the sky but rather using International law to defeat an enemy.

I hope this sparks a positive and spirited debate!

UNRESTRICTED WARFARE

The English translation of the book was made available by the Foreign Broadcast Information Service on the internet in 1999. Reportedly, the United States Naval Academy wrote to the authors to ask for permission in using this book as their ...official textbook.[citation needed] The book was then published in English by a previously unknown Panamanian publisher, with the subtitle "China's Master Plan to Destroy America" and a picture of the burning World Trade Center on the cover. These additions were thought to be misinterpretations of the text, not intended by the original authors. A French translation was published in 2003.

The text has been cited by the U.S. government, e.g. on a military website by James Perry who states:

In February 1999, the PLA Literature and Arts Publishing House issued Unrestricted Warfare, a book written by two PLA air force political officers, Senior Col Qiao Liang and Senior Col Wang Xiangsui. The venue for publication and the laudatory reviews of the book in official publications suggested that Unrestricted Warfare enjoyed the support of some elements of the PLA leadership. The Western press quoted various sensational passages from the book and described it in terms that verged on hyperbole. The book was not a blueprint for a “dirty war” against the West but a call for innovative thinking on future warfare.

[edit] Weaknesses of the United States
The book argues that the primary weakness of the United States in military matters is that the US views revolution in military thought solely in terms of technology. The book further argues that to the US, military doctrine evolves because new technology allows new capabilities. As such, the book argues that the United States does not consider the wider picture of military strategy, which includes legal and economic factors. The book proceeds to argue that the United States is vulnerable to attack along these lines.

[edit] Alternative methods of attack
Reducing one's opponent, the book notes, can be accomplished in a number of ways other than direct military confrontation. The book notes that these alternative methods "have the same and even greater destructive force than military warfare, and they have already produced serious threats different from the past and in many directions for...national security."

[edit] Lawfare
Lawfare, or political action through transnational or non-governmental organisations can effect a policy change that would be impossible otherwise. Because of the international nature of the modern world and activism, it is much easier for nation-states to affect policy in other nation-states through a proxy.

[edit] Economic warfare
Owing to the interconnected nature of global economics, nations can inflict grievous harm on the economies of other nations without taking any offensive action.

[edit] Network warfare
see iWar
One of the better-known alternatives in this book is the idea of attacking networks. Networks are increasingly important in not only data exchange but also transportation, financial institutions, and communication. Attacks that disable networks can easily hamstring large areas of life that are dependent on them for coordination. One example of network warfare would be shutting down a network that supplies power. If there is a significant failure in the power grid caused by the attack, massive power outages could result, crippling industry, defence, medicine, and all other areas of life.

[edit] Terrorism
Another famous instance of Unrestricted Warfare policy is terrorism. Terrorism is used by a group to gain satisfaction for certain demands. Even if these demands are not satisfied, a terrorist attack can have vastly disproportionate effects on national welfare. One only has to look at the economic crisis that followed the terrorist attacks against the United States, or the extensive security measures put in place after those same attacks. Terrorism erodes a nation's sense of security and well being, even if the direct effects of the attacks only concern a minute percentage of the population.

[edit] Defence against unrestricted warfare
The authors note that an old-fashioned mentality that considers military action the only offensive action is inadequate given the new range of threats. Instead, the authors advocate forming a "composite force in all aspects related to national interest. Moreover, given this type of composite force, it is also necessary to have this type of composite force to become the means which can be utilized for actual operations. This should be a "grand warfare method" which combines all of the dimensions and methods in the two major areas of military and non-military affairs so as to carry out warfare. This is opposite of the formula for warfare methods brought forth in past wars."

[edit] Implications
As the authors state, the new range of options combined with the rising cost (both political and financial) of waging traditional warfare results in the rising dominance of the new alternatives to traditional military action. A state that does not heed these warnings is in dire shape.

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[Walperstyle]

^you the wacko from the RX7 forum?

[somanyparts310]

^you the wacko from the RX7 forum?

Are you the ostrich with his head in the sand...?

[Walperstyle]

Are you the ostrich with his head in the sand...?

So if you are right about everything you say.... and I've 'seen the light'. Now what? go over the internet and talk to a whole bunch more people, take arms, what? Show me the way o master.

[Csomme]

Luke 21: 10-12


umad?

[hessianben]

I love one group says that Russia has had weather control and is fucking us up with it, the only reason we are ok is because Israel has it to and they stand up for us.

The other group says WE have weather control and the government is using on every one.

Now they say this weather control technology is causing the earth quakes.

I have to ask, which one is it? You can't keep both theories.



both are going on as we speak. we have dozens of haarp facilities all over the globe that we can use to create/ affect weather as well as create tectonic disturbances.

The russians have a more advanced SCALAR weapons system, which Israel also has- and who, at the moment, are standing between Russia and we fine folks.

[kingkilburn]

No. Just no.


You Can Not have it both ways.

Scalars are an entire different subject. Is it radio waves from haarp or scalars from who the fuck knows where.

That one man has pulled the wool over America's eyes for decades by using a real thing(scalar) and completely twisting it into something else. It's the scientology of physics.
Go read up on REAL physics having to do with scalars. No one is trying to hide anything. If that much potential energy was really there the world would already be using it.

[somanyparts310]

So if you are right about everything you say.... and I've 'seen the light'. Now what? go over the internet and talk to a whole bunch more people, take arms, what? Show me the way o master.

Its not the duty of the one who sounds the alarm to save you. Be thanksfull for the warning and do for yourself what you can. Dont expect help from anyone.

both are going on as we speak. we have dozens of haarp facilities all over the globe that we can use to create/ affect weather as well as create tectonic disturbances.

The russians have a more advanced SCALAR weapons system, which Israel also has- and who, at the moment, are standing between Russia and we fine folks.

HAARP has the ability to control weather, conduct mind control, it can be used as a method of communications, and can cause earthqaukes. And thats just the abilities we know about...

[kingkilburn]

Until you can absolutely prove all of those it does none of them. When I say prove I mean scientific proof. Don't post a pic of a hurricane and point your finger at haarp.

[Walperstyle]

Its not the duty of the one who sounds the alarm to save you. Be thanksfull for the warning and do for yourself what you can. Dont expect help from anyone.


so, what do you get out of all this? (because I know you spent hundreds of hours reading and watching various internet findings)

99% of what you fear never happens. The 1 percent that does happen, you have no control over. Why bother worrying, or 'save the world' via the internet.

The sooner you realize you are wasting your life, the sooner you can start truly living.

[hessianben]

It always entertains me to see just how much effort some people will expend to convince others that something DOES NOT EXIST.

It seems that merely the thought of having to accept something that is potentially frightening, or worse,something that calls for a change of lifestyle, is so traumatic to some, that they will expend their dying breath to proclaim convince others that they are wrong to ask questions.

continue.

[slower than you]

How do high frequency radio waves cause an eathquake? Or controll someone mind? And how are the even used on a specefic target?

Sounds like bullshit to me, and until I see a reasonable explanation of how it would even be possible, I'll go on living without fear.

[BOROSUN]

Well telsa developed high frequency machine, it cause a NYC earthquake when the switch accidentally broke and couldn't turn it off. Telsa endup smashing it with a sledge hammer that was the actual police report.

Now , military the have prototypes on hf weapons that can knockout ppl or even make their head explode .

You never seen demo of glass break with hf sound?

Btw Tesla made the radio and pretty much everything you see today.

[kingkilburn]

High frequency sound and radio waves aren't even the same form of energy. Not remotely comparable.


Btw Tesla made the radio and pretty much everything you see today.

Overstated statement was overstated.

[BOROSUN]

thanks?





ahh there we go...wiki mechanical resonace

Nikola Tesla established a laboratory at 46 E Houston Street in New York. There, at one point while experimenting with mechanical oscillators, he allegedly generated a resonance of several buildings causing complaints to the police. As the speed grew he hit the resonance frequency of his own building and belatedly realizing the danger he was forced to apply a sledge hammer to terminate the experiment, just as the astonished police arrived.[5] The Discovery Channel's popular MythBusters show examined Tesla's claim that he had created an "Earthquake Machine" in their 60th episode. They tested the physical phenomenon known as mechanical resonance on a traffic bridge, reportedly feeling the bridge vibrating many yards away.

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radio waves is a type of electromagnetic radiation which has been present in earthquakes and volcanoes


this one is is using electromagnetic radiation
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pretty cool stuff

[somanyparts310]

How do high frequency radio waves cause an eathquake? Or controll someone mind? And how are the even used on a specefic target?

Sounds like bullshit to me, and until I see a reasonable explanation of how it would even be possible, I'll go on living without fear.

"slower than you". your name seems to be a very good description of the way your brain is working. Catch up with the rest of the world my friend. Just because you are ignorant to the developments in the world does not mean that their existence will not affect you.

Here, watch this: YouTube - jesse ventura haarp full episode (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=jesse+ventura+haarp+full+epis ode&aq=2&oq=jesse+ventura+haarp)

[RB180sxChris]

I blame the chilli cheese fries. They fuck shit up.

lmao hahaha

[gearhead55]

ahh there we go...wiki mechanical resonace

Nikola Tesla established a laboratory at 46 E Houston Street in New York. There, at one point while experimenting with mechanical oscillators, he allegedly generated a resonance of several buildings causing complaints to the police. As the speed grew he hit the resonance frequency of his own building and belatedly realizing the danger he was forced to apply a sledge hammer to terminate the experiment, just as the astonished police arrived.[5] The Discovery Channel's popular MythBusters show examined Tesla's claim that he had created an "Earthquake Machine" in their 60th episode. They tested the physical phenomenon known as mechanical resonance on a traffic bridge, reportedly feeling the bridge vibrating many yards away.

radio waves is a type of electromagnetic radiation which has been present in earthquakes and volcanoes

this one is is using electromagnetic radiation

pretty cool stuff

Yea that resonance mythbusters thing is cool, but the bridge is almost completely one material. Finding resonance for buildings that are comprised of multiple materials at the level needed for 'an earthquake' seems FAR less likely. I'm not a engineer or anything but thats the impression i get.

Now, that being said, here is an awesome example of natural resonance created by wind. Galloping Gertie:

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pretty cool.

The heat gun thing is pretty cool too.

I dunno about all that HAARP bullshit though. i haven't done ANY real esearch, but from what i've read so far its close to chemtrails in my book as far as legitimacy. If anyone has any sort of scientific evidence, please post it.

[BOROSUN]

tesla earthquake was actually felt miles around nyc.
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the key is frequency. i believe they can generate massive vibration with radio waves/emr with the right frequencies.

check at this sound waves holding a objects on midair
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[slower than you]

"slower than you". your name seems to be a very good description of the way your brain is working. Catch up with the rest of the world my friend. Just because you are ignorant to the developments in the world does not mean that their existence will not affect you.

Here, watch this: YouTube - jesse ventura haarp full episode (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=jesse+ventura+haarp+full+epis ode&aq=2&oq=jesse+ventura+haarp)

Uhhh, what? Are you implying that "the rest if the world" believes that HARRP can cause earthquakes? I would wager that most people have never even heard of it.

[gearhead55]

tesla earthquake was actually felt miles around nyc.

the key is frequency. i believe they can generate massive vibration with radio waves/emr with the right frequencies.

check at this sound waves holding a objects on midair

man thats pretty cool.

[kingkilburn]

You are comparing completely unrelated aspects of physics as if they are all one and the same.

What does a mechanical oscillation have to do with something like haarp?

The fact that electromagnetic radiation is produced as a byproduct of earthquakes does not imply that quakes can be caused by it.

[gearhead55]

You are comparing completely unrelated aspects of physics as if they are all one and the same.

What does a mechanical oscillation have to do with something like haarp?

The fact that electromagnetic radiation is produced as a byproduct of earthquakes does not imply that quakes can be caused by it.

who are you directing this to?

[BOROSUN]

You are comparing completely unrelated aspects of physics as if they are all one and the same.

What does a mechanical oscillation have to do with something like haarp?

The fact that electromagnetic radiation is produced as a byproduct of earthquakes does not imply that quakes can be caused by it.

it's just a big what if...
a cause and effect. if you can figure out how those byproduct energy which travels thru air and other substance are created and then recreated or even manipulate. you can recreate the cause?

but, then ei japan is on the ring of fire on a heavy convergient zone.

i rather be open about then totally denying it saying its a fantasy.



also i tied the mechanical oscillation and haarp is with frequency. haarp can do a lot include elf waves & super heat similar to that v-mads. but really i dont know anything about it beside what i hear or read.

[BOROSUN]

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military secretly even test lsd as a weapon to bombard enemies with lsd.

[Walperstyle]

Borosun, about half of everything you are posting is bogus. Most of your history on Tesla is false too.

You make up for it by posting some actual science projects that are going on today. Take your advice from the sources though, not someone that says they got it from the source.

:)

[FRpilot]

i believe all these recent natural disaster have been caused by this man...

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in his goal to attempt to shift and return the world into perfect environmental balance.

[BOROSUN]

how is the telsa history false? i saw it on history channel.

history channel, man!!!

[kingkilburn]

The History Channel sold it's soul to the ratings devil.

[inopsey]

the history channel tries to make scientific arguments using authors that write fiction novels on the subject as credible sources

[kingkilburn]

They see the $$$ in selling people conspiracy crap ,doomsday scares, and "reality".

[BOROSUN]

yeah, but HC on actual history subjects are not. i dont mind those conspiracy or doomday & science fiction what if (Michio Kaku) shows. they make you think.

but, im tired those reality garbage and those auto auctions shows.