energy suspension

[road bandit sx]

Is there a real difference between the red kit and black kit? Do you have to grease them if you use them for daily driving? Is squeaking a big problem and binding? Is it better to go with nismo rubber ones for more money.Does anyone have first hand experience with any of this stuff? Any input would be great thanks.

[Marc240]

The difference is the color, never recal seeing a differnent price for either or.

[stinky_180]

i run full energy suspension with stance gr coilovers. the entire car feels like it has been fully restored. suspension feels great and i dont feel any type of 'binding', whatever that is. going over speedbumps, or driving slow on rough streets, you can definitely hear the difference, but i think it sounds cool. mind you, i rarely drive this car...

[90hatchie]

i redid every bushing in car with this kit except the 6 in the rear spindles
i used spherical bearings in their
i cant wait to fucking drive this car lol

[road bandit sx]

i used spherical bearings in their

what is that? where do you get them. how much $

[Flicktitty]

i don't have MUCH experience with energy suspension components, but i run the prothane master bushing kit, and it is like a brand new car. Well worth the price to replace all the bushings.

and from my understanding color is just that, a color.

[projectRDM]

Is there a real difference between the red kit and black kit? Do you have to grease them if you use them for daily driving? Is squeaking a big problem and binding? Is it better to go with nismo rubber ones for more money.Does anyone have first hand experience with any of this stuff? Any input would be great thanks.

Difference is color.

Urethane needs to be lubricated and often, one of the drawbacks of using it. Without proper maintenance you will get plenty of squeaks and noises, and the issue here is 99% of people who use urethane bushings fail to realize this or do anything about it.

Nismo rubber bushings are therefore a better choice for those typical people who never maintain their car properly. Rubber bushings need no service once installed. The drawback here is affording them.

[kyuusei]

The black set has graphite embedded into them, adding a self lubricating property and help reduce squeeks. Red is just red. I'd go with the black unless you really want the red for how it stands out.

[road bandit sx]

i read that the balck ones even with the graphite in them ended up squeeking. how often are we talking that they need to be greesed? im going to be dd it and track use? would anyone have a guess? i dont really want to be under my car every weekend greesing. bit of a hassle.

[stinky_180]

spherical bearings = solid, unlike the polyurethane that energy suspension bushings are made out of. spl parts sells the spherical bearings for the rear multi-link.

[AWDJosh]

since you made this thread i just went and bought a full kit for my kouki =] thanks i forgot about these kits lol and my shit has been feeling sluggish

[DreamN]

i read that the balck ones even with the graphite in them ended up squeeking. how often are we talking that they need to be greesed? im going to be dd it and track use? would anyone have a guess? i dont really want to be under my car every weekend greesing. bit of a hassle.

Still have to grease the black ones, just not as often. I've read anywhere from 8-12 months, so once a year shouldn't be to much of a headache.

[90hatchie]

what is that? where do you get them. how much $

Ikeya Formula Rear Knuckle Pillow Bush Nissan (http://www.rhdjapan.com/ikeya-formula-rear-knuckle-pillow-ball-bushing-non-hicas-s13-s14-s15-r32-r33-19255)

[road bandit sx]

are the pillow bushings water prof? a sealed unit.I guess they don't need service. looks like a better way to go. any one using them?

[90hatchie]

i use them but have yet to drive my car
you will expect a harsher ride cuz its solid
if its gonna be a daily drive stick with bushings

[road bandit sx]

so before I install the bushings I should drill and tap for grease fittings on the knuckle and put groves on the bushings for the grease to flow?

[miklos]

Still have to grease the black ones, just not as often. I've read anywhere from 8-12 months, so once a year shouldn't be to much of a headache.

What grease do you use? Lithium? Energy Suspension told me to use "Anti Seize"--they squeak like mad a month later.

[az_240]

so before I install the bushings I should drill and tap for grease fittings on the knuckle and put groves on the bushings for the grease to flow?

Polyurethane bushing grease fitting install - Nissan Road Racing Forums (http://nissanroadracing.com/showthread.php?t=554&highlight=grease+upright)

I'll be doing this on the uprights soon.

He says he uses Lubrimatic water resistant marine bearing and bushing grease. Can be purchased at HD.

I used the ES grease when I first got my bushings. It kept things quiet for about 10k.

Or you can get the expensive stuff.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a229/livinglegendlll/1006.jpg

I've noticed if the bush sticks out past the inner metal sleeve it will bind against the brackets after being torqued. It's a good idea to trim the bush down a little so this does not happen.

I'm sure they last a while but those pillowballs will wear out and begin to be loose over time... especially if the car is daily driven.

The Nismo ones need to be tightened with wheels on the ground which can be a bitch.