Vertical hood mod

[Matej]

Is there a write-up anywhere on how to do this? I tried googling 'vertical hood,' but only inappropriate pictures came up.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v640/Blimit/180gleb2.jpg
http://noriyaro.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/keiichi_hirono_180sx_001.jpg


Lately I have been seeing this on quite a few S-chassis. Apparently people mod the stock hinges, however when done that way, it seems that the hood leans back and rests against the windshield, which I do not really want.

On the silver Koguchi car above it looks as if some kind of aftermarket hinges might be used, since the hood is sitting straight up, even leaning forward slightly. I was told it is possible to buy such hinges, however I have not been able to find any.

Any input would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you.

[g6civcx]

That's an interesting idea.

Hondas have them stock.

Good luck with your search. Post up what you find.

[BoostSlideWayz]

honda hood hindges!! lol i d k if that would work tho -__- .. my hindges (idk how to spell that for some reason) didnt line up with my hood.. so 4 hood pins i went.. but i would like that alot better than any other ones.

[SoCal-s130]

Dont OEM hinges open up that much? Just the corners of the hood wont allow it to go that far?

[awesomenick]

Shit. My phone just broke and I have pictures of how to do it on there.

My car has this done. Basically you need to grind one tiny part off of the hinges.

Fuck it. I'll go borrow a camera and go out and take pics right now.

Just for you. :love:

[g6civcx]

OEM hood opens about 55 degrees and then stop.

[awesomenick]

Dont OEM hinges open up that much? Just the corners of the hood wont allow it to go that far?

No.

Well they would, but there are little tab things that stop it.

My daily's stock hood hinge.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b133/nick3889/240sx/hood1.jpg

Modified hinge. Takes like 3 minutes.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b133/nick3889/240sx/DSCF3809.jpg

Done.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b133/nick3889/240sx/DSCF3810.jpg

[AZ89two4Tsx]

Our volvo 850 has that. Opens like a regular hood, but when you pull a lever on the latches, it does ^^^. Yep.

[ILoveMyRHS13]

I've been wanting to do this as well... I'll take a Dremel to my hinge tomorrow night and see what happens. :D

[ms!3]

what is it leaning on?

[awesomenick]

The only reason I did this is so I don't have to take my hood off to pull the engine.

KA-T's seem like they always need to come back out. HAHAHA.

[awesomenick]

what is it leaning on?

The windshield.

Haha.

Yes, I expect problems in the future. I need to figure out a cool honda style hood prop, and something to make it eventually stop. But that won't be too hard.

[Slip&Sliden 240]

I did the same thing just ground out the stops. You can grind out as much as you want so it will stop when you want it to. Instead of cutting that tab off if you stick a cut off wheel between the hinge and just grind out the stop on each side till its where you want it.


http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/7195/dscf3329w.jpg

[om3ga]

wicked sweet

[Matej]

Thank you for the info awesomnick and Slip&Sliden, and thanks for taking the pictures awesomenick!
I'll be going to the junkyard tomorrow and get some spare hinges to do this on.

[BustedS13]

well i'll be goddamned.

so what's actually stopping the hood? it looks like the edge of the hood hits the glass? a couple pieces of that trim guard stuff people put on their doors would prevent chipping. i'm going to do this f'sho.

edit: [email protected] "vertical hood" google results.

[REALLY FASTback]

well i'll be goddamned.

so what's actually stopping the hood? it looks like the edge of the hood hits the glass? a couple pieces of that trim guard stuff people put on their doors would prevent chipping. i'm going to do this f'sho.

edit: [email protected] "vertical hood" google results.


hahah i just had to see what the fuss was about..and sure enough..it was very unexpected! hahah

[stealthsr20]

done, just need to put my hood on to see whats what

[Teddy]

Bro yeah bro. You don't even need a hood prop, mine stays up by itself even when there's heavy wind.


http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg263/S13Teddy/My%20car/DSCN5736.jpg

[nieko]

wow look at my fail ass fucking hood next to yours... gah

[Teddy]

Hella sick-ass Honda style BRO.

[Souljahzs13]

This is just too sick!! its late but i'm pulling out my dremel to do it right now muahaha i always felt like the hood does not open up high enough... :/

[ShereKhan]

this is amazing! im always hitting my head on my damn hood

[wow-thats-a-cool-car]

Google search "vertical hood"

Pretty funny..,

im gonna do this tomorrow

[zenki.life]

oh man i had to search for vertical hood. well i did. and......."vertical hood piecing" came up. i knew i went to far at that point lol.

[Zero-Offset]

Wow, this beats the hell out of taking the hood off.
Snapped the bolts off twice that mount the hood to the chassis, and damn do 20 year old bolts not want to move!

[bardabe]

Z32's have it stock, gotta love not having to take off hood to pull motor

[s13silvia123]

i must do this mod cause it'll save me some headaches doing stuff on my motor.

[murda-c]

If I had a fibreglass hood maybe...but I'm not leaning the steel on my windshield, lol.

[clark]

this thread reminds me of hte scene in the movie tommy boy. where they're just driving and all of a sudden the hood pops open lol.

if anyone screws up their hinges, they can PM me, i have a spare set.

[bejota180sx]

i've been wanting to do this for so long, never really looked at the hinges to see those stops... at last not having to remove my hood to work on some parts of the engine...

[Mikaelhinojosa]

Nice trick, I might try this. Off topic question, who makes these rear overfenders? I like em.

http://noriyaro.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/keiichi_hirono_180sx_001.jpg

[Neejay]

Cool...I'll probably be doing this soon. Will also allow for more sunlight while working in the engine bay.

[Slip&Sliden 240]

Nice trick, I might try this. Off topic question, who makes these rear overfenders? I like em.

http://noriyaro.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/keiichi_hirono_180sx_001.jpg


Did you even read the first post?

On the silver Koguchi car above it looks as if some kind of aftermarket hinges might be used, since the hood is sitting straight up, even leaning forward slightly. I was told it is possible to buy such hinges, however I have not been able to find any.

So then they would be Koguchi Power fenders.

[ILoveMyRHS13]

God damnit, now everyone is doing it. Such is the 240 world, I suppose. I'm still doing it! :D

[awesomenick]

Luckily I was ahead of the crowd this time.

Haha.

[Matej]

Not sure if I even want to do it anymore now, haha.


Just kidding, still doing it. :)

[awesomenick]

It doesn't really matter if everybody does it IMO.

Haha you can't even tell unless you open it all the way. I still use mine normally. The only time it needs to be opened up that far is when I'm pulling the engine out.

[90hatchie]

i just pushed my hood up till it was verticle lol
i was too lazy to take hood off when pulling motor

[Neejay]

It doesn't really matter if everybody does it IMO.

Haha you can't even tell unless you open it all the way. I still use mine normally. The only time it needs to be opened up that far is when I'm pulling the engine out.
Yeah. This shouldn't be done as a "cool" or "hip" thing to do. It's functional and makes it easier for a swap or to get more sunlight at the back of the engine bay.

[Mikaelhinojosa]

Did you even read the first post?



So then they would be Koguchi Power fenders.

Sorry wasnt familiar with his products. Thanks for enlightening me but damn those are expensive.

[Teddy]

Yup, I had it before the functional bandwagon trotted along.

[!Zar!]

God damnit, now everyone is doing it. Such is the 240 world, I suppose. I'm still doing it! :D

Honda guys have been doing this forever.


Not to mention all Mercedes do that shit stock.

Except when you do it on a benz, it locks so it won't flop over and hit you on the head.

[FaLKoN240]

I should do that on my Cressida, since the stupid ass hood shocks don't even work.

[bejota180sx]

Honda guys have been doing this forever.


Not to mention all Mercedes do that shit stock.

Except when you do it on a benz, it locks so it won't flop over and hit you on the head.

i think honda's have it stock also, at least some... most of my friends integras do that...

[projectRDM]

I cannot believe I just read through all these replies of surprise. People have discussed this on car forums forever, like back when the internet was first conceived, and long before that in books and shit. I thought everyone knew about this. This 'mod' was the first thing I did to my Altima when I bought it in 1993, and since on every car I own.

You guys are nearly two decades late to the party.

[FaLKoN240]

I cannot believe I just read through all these replies of surprise. People have discussed this on car forums forever, like back when the internet was first conceived, and long before that in books and shit. I thought everyone knew about this. This 'mod' was the first thing I did to my Altima when I bought it in 1993, and since on every car I own.

You guys are nearly two decades late to the party.

Wheresthewriteup?lol

[lazysk8er2]

yea so i googled it and at the prime moment when the results loaded i had my mom and gf walk in...

...lemme just say i think a lie would have sufficed cuz i told them the truth and showed them this post they still thought it was b.s.

[om3ga]

thats the effing SKIZZLES DAWG

[SilviaSR20DET]

haha wish i coulda known this earlier, i had to literally pull the hood by myself and you all know s14 hoods are heavy as hell...

[Kaifd3s]

like back when the internet was first conceived, and long before that in books and shit.


Original OG!

[Z_Spool]

wow look at my fail ass fucking car next to yours... gah

Don't worry Nieko, I'm sure you'll be just as cool soon enough, am I right? No probably not. ;) I'm def. gonna be doing this though, thanks.

[Matej]

My apologies for bumping this thread from the dead, but I presumed this may be relevant to some.
I wanted my hood to stay up without ever leaning it on the windshield. This is the way I ended up doing it.

http://www.matejblahut.com/gallery/d/2667-1/verticalhinge.jpg
http://www.matejblahut.com/gallery/d/2670-1/verticalhinge2.jpg


When it opens just a bit past vertical, the angle aluminum stops it by coming in contact with the back of the bottom part of the hinge.
I thought of a few other ways, but I liked this one best because it involves modding the hinge only and having it stop against itself, as opposed to involving the hood or any other part of the car.
Someone can make it more neat or come up with a better way I am sure, as I am terrible at working on cars.

It will all be painted, I just wanted to mock it up for now. After doing so I will put a piece of double sided tape or some stick-on rubber on the bottom of the aluminum, to act as cushioning when it is resting against the hinge.

[bejota180sx]

i forgot to update i actually did this mod, makes everything close to the firewall easier to work with in the engine bay without having to remove the hood, including installing a new engine...

that's a good idea matej! i hated the hood resting on my windshield also but i modified one of the holes close to the strut tower to hold the hood prop rod whatever you call it and the other part holds up to one of the oval shaped slots close to the side of the hood... you idea looks much cleaner though...

[T chop]

It would be easier if you just used some sort of really light metal chain or something similar and have it just stop it before it goes back to far.

[junn]

My apologies for bumping this thread from the dead, but I presumed this may be relevant to some.
I wanted my hood to stay up without ever leaning it on the windshield. This is the way I ended up doing it.

http://www.matejblahut.com/gallery/d/2667-1/verticalhinge.jpg
http://www.matejblahut.com/gallery/d/2670-1/verticalhinge2.jpg


When it opens just a bit past vertical, the angle aluminum stops it by coming in contact with the back of the bottom part of the hinge.
I thought of a few other ways, but I liked this one best because it involves modding the hinge only and having it stop against itself, as opposed to involving the hood or any other part of the car.
Someone can make it more neat or come up with a better way I am sure, as I am terrible at working on cars.

It will all be painted, I just wanted to mock it up for now. After doing so I will put a piece of double sided tape or some stick-on rubber on the bottom of the aluminum, to act as cushioning when it is resting against the hinge.



how about some pics with the hood on

[Matej]

A few people have contacted me in regards to this, so I just put together this brief guide. :)
http://ironycc.blogspot.com/2011/02/few-people-have-asked-if-i-could.html


It would be easier if you just used some sort of really light metal chain or something similar and have it just stop it before it goes back to far.
Considered that as well actually, and thought of a few ways how it could be done. However, in the end I decided against it because it would be too 'visible,' while I wanted it to be as hidden as possible. I also did not want the chains/lines flopping around when the hood is closed, so it would take more thinking to figure out how they would sit when they have slack.

I still think it would be neat if someone made aftermarket S13/S14 hinges. It is not that difficult of a part to engineer. Perhaps even ones that can open into different degrees, with a mechanism that 'clicks' locked into place (similar to when an ebrake is pulled up).


how about some pics with the hood on
This is all I have at the moment. The brackets/bolts have no trouble keeping even the stock hood sitting up vertically, since in that position almost all of the pressure created by the weight of the hood is absorbed by the hinges and frame, not the brackets.
http://www.matejblahut.com/gallery/d/2768-1/slow.jpg

[HyperTek]

my benz could do that, had like a 2 stage strut on it. Opens regularly, than you pull the tab and it allows the strut to take it all the way back like that. Perhaps you could incorporate one of those struts from it and be good to go.

I think Im gonna look at this on my 7.
Matej your wire tucked engine bay is killer btw

[towlie]

I still think it would be neat if someone made aftermarket S13/S14 hinges. It is not that difficult of a part to engineer. Perhaps even ones that can open into different degrees, with a mechanism that 'clicks' locked into place (similar to when an ebrake is pulled up).

Hmm, I like this idea. Nice write up, btw.

[TerrySilysacks]

im so late on this shit. trying it tommorow =D

[aNskY]

be careful guys... i had a hood come down on my head while i was mounting an intercooler. center of the latch got me square in the top of my head. 240 hoods are not light. shit knocked me out cold and left a sweet pool of head blood in my driveway. emergency room visits are not fun.

[surge s14]

holly shit man glade your ok ^

[MidwestMyriad]

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/1/3276/4181/8189590005_large.jpg
LeSabre styles on all 240's

[S-Nation S13]

be careful guys... i had a hood come down on my head while i was mounting an intercooler. center of the latch got me square in the top of my head. 240 hoods are not light. shit knocked me out cold and left a sweet pool of head blood in my driveway. emergency room visits are not fun.

wow..i laugh at how you said that..but damn i thought this was a good idea now..im skeptical hm.....

[ryandriftingfat]

One of the best free mods I ever did.

http://givemeshred.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/givemeshred-ka24e-engine-pull-2.jpg

http://givemeshred.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/givemeshred-240sx-vertical-hood-mod-04.jpg

More here:
How to do the vertical hood mod on 240SX. (http://givemeshred.com/how-to-do-the-vertical-hood-mod-on-240sx/)

[s14unimog]

Ya know what would really do this thread some good. Is someone who's actually completed the modification. I've long since cut my stops off but yet to spend the extra effort on a support mechanism.

Here are some idea's I've thought of.

a rendition on the Datsun 510 hood prop. There is a bracket with a slot that resembles a skewed candy cane on the hood. The torsion spring is only there to force the catch into the hook end of the slot. It effectively forces you to pull back on the prop rod to disengage the catch, preventing it from doing it on its own.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/s14unimog/14dc25cf.jpg

Then I've considered this idea. These are Q45 struts that I equipped on my Jeep Cherokee. The geometry allows you to use of a pretty stout strut rate but localize the force on the hinge. I question if this isn't an alternative to gas struts on a carbon hood; which is what I have to work around. The final length of the strut could also act as a "stop". I can't remove the factory stops on this as I would have to radically change the hinge.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/s14unimog/Jeep%20Cherokee/Q45HoodStruts-05-24-11002.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/s14unimog/Jeep%20Cherokee/Q45HoodStruts-05-24-11004.jpg

[Landberg]

Wanting to be one of the cool guys I did this
http://landberk.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/img439.jpg

[C. Anderson]

Expensive but do the job.
NISSAN 240SX [NS249598] - $389.99 : 310 Tuner!, #1 Source for custom hinges! (http://www.310tuner.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=7&products_id=31)

[s14unimog]

^ Problem is, they don't send the hood vertical...

[C. Anderson]

You're right. I didnt notice that.