battle of the ebay catbacks

[Xise]

Well after doing much searching i have decided to do some serious ebay shopping as I need a complete exhaust system. I have narrowed it down to 2 catbacks, one is a knock off of the apexi/ssac dual muffler

89-94 S13 240SX CAT BACK DUAL TIP EXHAUST SYSTEM 90 91 :eBay Motors (item 230353970419 end time Sep-01-09 17:24:22 PDT) (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/89-94-S13-240SX-CAT-BACK-DUAL-TIP-EXHAUST-SYSTEM-90-91_W0QQitemZ230353970419QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_ Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item35a22aa4f3&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245)

and the other is the more traditional can type.
89-94 Nissan 240SX S13 Cat-Back catback Exhaust System:eBay Motors (item 270356570202 end time Aug-07-09 18:05:17 PDT) (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/89-94-Nissan-240SX-S13-Cat-Back-catback-Exhaust-System_W0QQitemZ270356570202QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMot ors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item3ef281e05 a&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245)


I am leaning more towards the dual muffler right now.

just wondering if anyone either of these exhausts and what they think. Any video clips of sound would be very helpful. BTW I still have my KA24E and i am surprised how nice some exhausts sound with this motor

[Almedarj]

go ahead and get the dual exhaust it looks so much better and closer to stock than any can type and the ka24e/de both have a really nice sound to them i have a ka24de with dc headers a megan test pipe and megan 3in. exhaust and its sounds really good

[JEDIs13]

i used to have a ebay exhaust similar to that can one and the fitment was shit.. you had to choose between having it like 2 inches off the ground or if you tucked it up so it wasnt low it would leak

[kevmeistah21]

i used to have a ebay exhaust similar to that can one and the fitment was shit.. you had to choose between having it like 2 inches off the ground or if you tucked it up so it wasnt low it would leak


this guy just stole the words from GOD HIMSELF. Oh btw it's like 1 inch off the gruond not 2

[ryguy]

^ I agree. I used to subscribe to the "it's just a pipe" mentality, but the ebay exhaust I have rattled against the bottom of the car until one of the mounts broke off.

[JEDIs13]

this guy just stole the words from GOD HIMSELF. Oh btw it's like 1 inch off the gruond not 2

haha thanks i had that shit on a car with stock suspension and i had to drive it like it was slammed to try not to scrape... and it usually still scrapped

[Xise]

I have tokico blues on there right now so it's not too low, which exhaust were you talking about scrapiung? the big single can or the dual?

[landins13]

i have an apexi n1 noir and with a car thats dropped 3 inches my exhaust is still even with the frame rail, ebay isnt worth it, wait for a special on here for something legit, i got my n1 off of a special on here for 500 shipped about a year ago if you wait and take your time you can find good deals

[Tantwoforty]

^ I agree. I used to subscribe to the "it's just a pipe" mentality, but the ebay exhaust I have rattled against the bottom of the car until one of the mounts broke off.
My meagan is doing that :/

[jamg]

err....an ebay exhaust will be fine.

i use to have the one can one, it fit perfect. i had no problems with it.

i was looking at an apexi n1 exhaust though. i wanted to actually see the badge on it, and i picked it up by the hanger.

the hanger cracked, and almost broke off.

[jamg]

but it seems a bit pricey for just an exhaust....or is that how much they really are? i'd take the dual one.

how much more would it be if i made my own exhaust? i'd need 3 inch piping, a flow master muffler, and then maybe use another muffler at the cat.

[Matej]

Do not get the dual one. They are terrible. Even the 'real' dual Apexi is terrible.

I had this one, which is pretty much the cheapest Ebay catback you can get, and it was pretty awesome.
89 90 91 92 93 94 NISSAN 240 SX SE N1 CATBACK EXHAUST:eBay Motors (item 360165534123 end time Aug-24-09 16:37:14 PDT) (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/89-90-91-92-93-94-NISSAN-240-SX-SE-N1-CATBACK-EXHAUST_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14 QQhashZitem53db89e9abQQitemZ360165534123QQptZRaceQ 5fCarQ5fParts)

[w0nderbr3ad]

Get a real cat-back. Usually with ebay products the fitment is off and you end up having a headache just to try to make it fit. There was a blitz nur spec for the s13 in the forsale forums not too long ago. I'd go with that.

[Xise]

The whole point of ebay is so you don't pay 500 for an exhaust, when the time comes for my swap I will get some name brand stuff, the only thing i am going to keep will be whatever cat I end up getting.

thanks for all your help guys, anything will be an improvement from my current setup, the guy i bought my car from even welded the bolts on the header so I can't even seperate my headers, the rest of the exhaust is a straight pipe to a rusted muffler...can someone say ghetto rig?

so even an ebay header will be better than my current loud raspy noise comming from a rusted muffler lol

[Xise]

Get a real cat-back. Usually with ebay products the fitment is off and you end up having a headache just to try to make it fit. There was a blitz nur spec for the s13 in the forsale forums not too long ago. I'd go with that.

if I saw that for under $300 it would be mine lol

[jamg]

i wouldn't even pay under $300 for one.

i mean cmon, it's an exhaust. it does not get any more generic than that.

[waynehead05]

I would get the cheapest one you can find, then pick out a muffler you like, and chop and weld. It's cheaper than getting a full custom, which won't look as good either.

[silcoupeguy987]

my dad has that dual tiped ebay one on his 14 and it sounds soo bitchen with a kade... buuutttt the fitment IS soo off.. even after 60+ dollars of custom hanger work from my local muffler shop... the mid muffler in the system is just WAY to low.... and also to add we took the system off and pounded the living CRAP out of the top of that mid muffler where it was hitting the drive shaft after we tucked the system up as high as it would go and it still rubs under compression braking.......his car is barley droped on 18s and it still scraps on steep drives... but it was on the car when he got it and hes saving up for a better system in the future....


so my imput on the ebay is dont buy it unless your ready to fork over extra cash to get the fitment down and also be ready to beat on your new shiny exaust system with a hammer so it don't rub



on the other hand i just pulled my full turbo cat back system off my 13 and replaced it with a full stock cat back (used system picked up off zilvia for 50$)and a supper turbo muffler by cherry bomb (VERY cheap price like 32 a muff or so) i cut the stock muller off and had it welded in place of the stock by my local muff dealer and just added a straight black tip and its sounds very quite very deep tone i can hear the AEM intake open up on my ka24de very nice very sleeper and still great performance and best of all i did it supper cheap..... oh and my cars SUPPER slammed on 15s and i drag frame rails on the daily and my exaust RARELY touches the ground

[FaLKoN240]

Don't get the stupid ass dual muffler, shit is super ricey and the exhaust scrapes EVERYWHERE.

Real Apex'i N1 dual or not, the design of that exhaust SUCKS unless you're still in 1998 and rocking an S13 with shocks and springs and cool race stickers with no real mods.

I would rather buy a USED real exhaust than an ebay one, but whatever.

If you're poor do what you gotta do.

[hOngsterr]

u wanna buy my 65mm HKS catback?
still newish.
broken in for sure for that sexy sound


minor scratches!
lol

[kablam]

Have you looked at SS Auto Chrome? I bought an exhaust from there for my first 240 and it was actually a good system. Good fitment and everything.

[fueled by hate]

look in the for sale section and find a good used brand name exhaust

[OBEEWON]

Open down pipe.

[Xise]

Yeah I definitely don't want a ricey sound, I looked at the ssac ones and they look exactly like the ebay ones, looks like the chinese manufacturers copied them, or more likely they make the ssac ones and they just slap a badge on it or whatever.

Like jamg said, mufflers are all basically the same if they are 3" piping, you can't really fuck it up, if the muffler sounds like shit ill just cut and weld one. But what I am looking for is something that will just work, not be sliding all over the asphalt and sound decent.

Frankly I don't need name brand notoriety, not right now, not in the budget. If I had stacks of $1000 lying around then sure i would....but I am shopping on ebay so that should tell you where my budget is.......my main concern is fittiment and I have heard things good and bad about the exhaust fitting properly so I don't know what to believe, keep in mind i have an s13 and supposedly these exhausts are made to fit that chassis. Anyone know of something that is SURE to fit without smashing anything with a hammer to make it fit lol. Last thing I need with this car is another headache or something that should be simple and becomes a project.

[allntrlundrgrnd]

why hasnt anyone told him to just go to a muffler shop and have custom exhaust made?

k well i did

[ZX88]

they all sound the same especially na

[ranger240]

yeah muffler shop + flowmaster

check out this.. no ricer-rasp here
7TLwQ95kPY4

isnt 2.5'' pipe best for a N/A 240 anyway?

why loose torque, its what the KA is good at

[S-Nation S13]

why spend that when you can save a lil more and get greddt ti-c like i did sounds beasty it hangs low (lol sort of like my....ya) in the end its up to you egay has a reputation with horrid fitment,custom is cheap you can tuck it as high as possible as for the sound .. your never to sure since its a custom,or go big and be happy like me got reffed with my greddy slapped on my silencer passed well below the max 95 db lol mine was at 90.4 db yup yup !!!

[Xise]

why spend that when you can save a lil more and get greddt ti-c like i did sounds beasty it hangs low (lol sort of like my....ya) in the end its up to you egay has a reputation with horrid fitment,custom is cheap you can tuck it as high as possible as for the sound .. your never to sure since its a custom,or go big and be happy like me got reffed with my greddy slapped on my silencer passed well below the max 95 db lol mine was at 90.4 db yup yup !!!

I have a Greddy TI C for my impreza so I don't want to have the same exhaust on both cars lol even though I am sre they sound completely different on the 2, I am not building on the KA motor just want something now while I save $$ so I am going cheap right now and just want something decent I can sell here later on that someone will actually buy lol

[ericcastro]

you knwo what alot of us here is SoCal do now.............

We run pure stock exhaust with bone stock mufflers.

shit is cheap.
cant get tickets.
One less thing they can pull you over for.
saves your hearing (really, look up truckers ear, 20% plus hearing loss from wind and mufflers.)
fits nice.
saves money.
and if you do happen to slide corners, step on the throttle or anything like that.........Its much more quite.
Only the wheel squeel can give you away at 3am.
Plus, you dont wake the nieghborhood everytime you go somewhere at night.




So go bone stock now, or 3 years from now when whats new, hits your town.

[ZenkiKid]

Don't get the stupid ass dual muffler, shit is super ricey and the exhaust scrapes EVERYWHERE.

Real Apex'i N1 dual or not, the design of that exhaust SUCKS unless you're still in 1998 and rocking an S13 with shocks and springs and cool race stickers with no real mods.

I would rather buy a USED real exhaust than an ebay one, but whatever.

If you're poor do what you gotta do.

I can vouch on the design crappiness. I have one and I have plenty of different vibrations when I drive. I believe it hits the, Driveshaft, swaybar and diff output shaft. I have also broken 2 of those foam brackets that are right after the bottom half of the exhaust manifold where it sandwiches between that and the cat.

[Xise]

well thankfully I am not in CA and don't have to worry about smog, honestly at this point the only thing I need to pass emissions is a cat of any kind, i could just cut one in but I want something I can take off and put a test pipe in when I go to the track.

my stock muffler has a huge hole rusted in it and sounds like a raspy piece of crap, so I need a new muffler I just wanted to know which ones sound like rice and which ones are worth it, i need something that fits and i won't have to fuck with...thats all. does anyone know of one where the hangers fit and don't have shitty welds and dont cost too much, there has to be something.

from what I have seen the ssac catback looks EXACTLY like the ebay ones, hangers, piping and all and you have said the ss ones fit good

[FaLKoN240]

SSAC is a eBay famous brand, that's where they got their start, so as far as anyone is concerned SSAC is eBay.

You can search that companies name and probably find some info on here.

It sounds like you answered your own question so just go order one.

[ericcastro]

If its cheaper, then go with ebay.
But it would seem you could just go to a mom and pop muffler shop and get the cheapest muffler, and a cat, and a custom line for a little over 100.

Otherwise, i would think the dual is to much airflow for a KA, and just extra wieght that can swing, and vibrate, and break hangers. (imo, i havent used either).


Shit, go too the JY and get a cat and have it welded in. Then after smog, take the line off and cram a broom stick up there if its that important to you to not have a CAT. (old school, lol)

[TrustS13]

240SX S13 CatBack Exhaust + Test Pipe 89 90 91 92 93 94:eBay Motors (item 270437028478 end time Aug-07-09 00:01:08 PDT) (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/240SX-S13-CatBack-Exhaust-Test-Pipe-89-90-91-92-93-94_W0QQitemZ270437028478QQcmdZViewItemQQptZRace_Ca r_Parts?hash=item3ef74d927e&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245)

This is mine. Fits great, looks great, and sounds awesome.
http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/2/6/6/4/1/0/webimg/282415406_tp.jpg
http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/2/6/6/4/1/0/webimg/282415398_tp.jpg


I don't see anyone rocking it yet.. but I love mine and get compliments all the time on it.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3388/3567841539_3544aec29a_o.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2444/3567841785_5ec8f9473f_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3622/3574206623_e0f884d015_o.jpg

[Xise]

Wow i actually really like that one, and itcomes with a test pipe which I can use until i find a nice cat for emissions......so far this one looks nice but also it doesn't look like it is stainless steel...I live in RI so rust is really a big issue over here...also I could never loweer my car that much, RI has the worst roads in the entire country...i'll take some pics so you can see why...lol you won't believe it. Exactly why I got shocks/springs instead of coilovers...

Trusts13 do you know what it is made out of, is it stainless or just polished?

[Driftastic]

why not buy you your muffler of choice and then go to Mineke, or however its spelt, and have them bend you a 2.5" pipe from the header or cat-back. thats what i did and the piping only cost me $150 or so and another $70 for a magnaflow muffler....

[Matej]

you knwo what alot of us here is SoCal do now.............

We run pure stock exhaust with bone stock mufflers.

and if you do happen to slide corners, step on the throttle or anything like that.........Its much more quite.
Only the wheel squeel can give you away at 3am.
That is why I put my stock exhaust on.
But the stock exhaust is really ugly. :(


u wanna buy my 65mm HKS catback?
still newish.
broken in for sure for that sexy sound


minor scratches!
lol
Hey, I'm interested, haha.

[jaja]

same here - in socal, got the HKS one that looks exactly like stock, but has the breathing room of a thick pipe. no problem with los angeles' finest.... when pulled over, get treated like a respectable adult :)

[93nismo]

ive got one like the can, sounds fine, fitments is ok, not great, but ok. and it only rattles because the hanger that mounts to the frame rail by the gastank rusted and broke off... so the can hangs low and bounces. but the exhaust itself is fine, just fine:)

[neoninja]

Buddy Club SpecII

There's no can, so not much to scrape. Super cheap. You can find many used ones forsale here. Very light.

The most legit exhaust note for the ka hands down.
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c107/1487justin/exhaust6.jpg
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c107/1487justin/exhaust7safe.jpg

[ayuaddict]

or you can buy a shitty gas less MIG.

and make a cat back.

[swayray]

you knwo what alot of us here is SoCal do now.............

We run pure stock exhaust with bone stock mufflers.

shit is cheap.
cant get tickets.
One less thing they can pull you over for.
saves your hearing (really, look up truckers ear, 20% plus hearing loss from wind and mufflers.)
fits nice.
saves money.
and if you do happen to slide corners, step on the throttle or anything like that.........Its much more quite.
Only the wheel squeel can give you away at 3am.
Plus, you dont wake the nieghborhood everytime you go somewhere at night.

So go bone stock now, or 3 years from now when whats new, hits your town.


+1

stock KA = stock exhaust. With only 2-3 HP gain from the ebay type of stuff you might as well just keep it stock. Unless you are looking to get more sounds out of your engine and attract unwanted attention, i'd just keep it stock. Otherwise, get an exhaust system that has been proved to show considerable gains.

[jamg]

yeah muffler shop + flowmaster

check out this.. no ricer-rasp here
7TLwQ95kPY4

isnt 2.5'' pipe best for a N/A 240 anyway?

why loose torque, its what the KA is good at

which flowmaster?

i wonder how it would sound on a SR20det..

2.25 inch exhaust?

[Touge Noob S13]

If its cheaper, then go with ebay.
But it would seem you could just go to a mom and pop muffler shop and get the cheapest muffler, and a cat, and a custom line for a little over 100.




What he said, I got 2.5 inch piping and a barely used, stock looking magnaflow muffler for $110. The car isnt even that much louder than stock until you floor it.

[pete240]

I've got the ebay dual and just recently did I remedy the fitment problem for good.... After about 6 months of dragging and ripping the center muffler open I took it to a muffler shop and had them remove the muffler and weld in a pipe in place of the muffler and I no longer scrap. :D I'll post a pic when I get home.

[mattro]

i HAVE that dual, it fits like SHIT
first you have to bend the hangars on the end because they dont fit
second this hanger comes NO WHERE close to the mount spot.
http://i460.photobucket.com/albums/qq322/97ser/100_0795.jpg
and it rubs on the sub frame/ sway bar.

id try my luck with the traditional one.

[ericcastro]

+1

stock KA = stock exhaust. With only 2-3 HP gain from the ebay type of stuff you might as well just keep it stock. Unless you are looking to get more sounds out of your engine and attract unwanted attention, i'd just keep it stock. Otherwise, get an exhaust system that has been proved to show considerable gains.

Plus i got all my emmisions out too. (never worked right, was wired wrong, several hundreds spent trying to pass smog legitamitly)
So Its just less of a chance to get pulled over.
And even less of a chance for the engine to sound "modified"

And this coming from the sparkle pink/purple 240 in LA, lol

and i prefer the little back pressure and low end power rather than that couple hp on the top end

[Xise]

thanks for posting pics of the hangers mattro, i would actually like to get something closer to the black catback that meagan makes, or the BRM one, I just don't want to pay that much for it and no one makes a cheap "stealth" catback ill keep searching though

[mattro]

np man here to help. and lmk when u find somthing good. im lookin to upgrade too lol

[Xise]

np man here to help. and lmk when u find somthing good. im lookin to upgrade too lol

most def man, shopping on a budget takes some presicion. i am sure I will find something good somwhere. I like the look of the meagan dual tip muffler but I have heard nothing but bad things about them.

From what I have seen they sound pretty good and I am sure they fit fine, looks like the same piping as the stock setup

http://www.wesellcarparts.com/store/ProdImages/megan/mrbss13black.jpg

this is the exact look I would like but in my opinion it costs too much, If I could find a cheap version of this same style I woild buy it right now lol. Anyone have any comments about this megan catback?

[KrazyS13]

Well, I'll add my 2 cents in just to give you another option if it isnt out of your price range.. I just bought a brand new Skunk2 MegaPower 3" exhaust on a liquidation sale for 315 shipped off ebay. I will also be receiving 22 dollars from Microsoft live Cashback. So I will be paying 293 total for a brand new 3" stainless steel exhaust(after I get the $22 cashback).

I know, your probably thinking... Skunk2:tweak:!?! But after some research I found out they are made by Invidia and just rebadged under Skunk2.I happen to be a big fan of Invidia, I had their N1 system on my STi, and also on my STi swapped 2.5RS and they make a great exhaust. Very high quality, sounds awesome, with perfect fitment as well.

Well, I got the exhaust in over this past weekend and I must say it looks JUST like my Invidia exhaust, even looks like the same parts used(resonator, muffler, flanges). The only difference is the piping isnt polished like the Invidia and it has a Skunk2 badge on it instead. I could care less about what name is on it, it's a great deal on a great exhaust! Hope this helps, I can post pics if you want. Its not installed yet though.

[Xise]

Well, I'll add my 2 cents in just to give you another option if it isnt out of your price range.. I just bought a brand new Skunk2 MegaPower 3" exhaust on a liquidation sale for 315 shipped off ebay. I will also be receiving 22 dollars from Microsoft live Cashback. So I will be paying 293 total for a brand new 3" stainless steel exhaust(after I get the $22 cashback).

I know, your probably thinking... Skunk2:tweak:!?! But after some research I found out they are made by Invidia and just rebadged under Skunk2.I happen to be a big fan of Invidia, I had their N1 system on my STi, and also on my STi swapped 2.5RS and they make a great exhaust. Very high quality, sounds awesome, with perfect fitment as well.

Well, I got the exhaust in over this past weekend and I must say it looks JUST like my Invidia exhaust, even looks like the same parts used(resonator, muffler, flanges). The only difference is the piping isnt polished like the Invidia and it has a Skunk2 badge on it instead. I could care less about what name is on it, it's a great deal on a great exhaust! Hope this helps, I can post pics if you want. Its not installed yet though.

hmm I looked on skun2s website and it didn't seem like they made one for the s13. Do you have a link on ebay where I can the one you bought?

[KrazyS13]

Skunk2 MegaPower RR Exhaust 88-94 Nissan 240 S13:eBay Motors (item 110415801492 end time Jul-25-09 10:56:37 PDT) (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110415801492&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT#ht_546wt_941)

That was the auction I won. They have more for sale but it looks like they raised the price up a little bit. The pic they show is just a generic pic, let me know if you wanna see some actual pics.

[BustedS13]

yeah muffler shop + flowmaster

check out this.. no ricer-rasp here
7TLwQ95kPY4

isnt 2.5'' pipe best for a N/A 240 anyway?

why loose torque, its what the KA is good at

that does sound good, but i'd beat the fuck out of some douchebag doing that down my street. fucking retard.

maybe i'll do a super 40/WS2 combo on the new exhaust, that really did sound nice...

240SX S13 CatBack Exhaust + Test Pipe 89 90 91 92 93 94:eBay Motors (item 270437028478 end time Aug-07-09 00:01:08 PDT) (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/240SX-S13-CatBack-Exhaust-Test-Pipe-89-90-91-92-93-94_W0QQitemZ270437028478QQcmdZViewItemQQptZRace_Ca r_Parts?hash=item3ef74d927e&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245)

This is mine. Fits great, looks great, and sounds awesome.
http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/2/6/6/4/1/0/webimg/282415406_tp.jpg
http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/2/6/6/4/1/0/webimg/282415398_tp.jpg


I don't see anyone rocking it yet.. but I love mine and get compliments all the time on it.

yeah, i've never seen an s13 with a can exhaust before.

[Xise]

does anyone know anything about the pacesetter catback?? i found this for about $250

http://cpwstore.carpartswholesale.com/catalog/images/prodimage/thumbs200/pacesetter/P40881357.jpg

not the best pic but you get the idea, just wondering abot this one

[BustedS13]

does anyone know anything about the pacesetter catback?? i found this for about $250

http://cpwstore.carpartswholesale.com/catalog/images/prodimage/thumbs200/pacesetter/P40881357.jpg

not the best pic but you get the idea, just wondering abot this one

pacesetter is a notoriously shitty "performance" brand. they've been around forever selling their "monza" exhaust for every car ever made.

[Tantwoforty]

you knwo what alot of us here is SoCal do now.............

We run pure stock exhaust with bone stock mufflers.

shit is cheap.
cant get tickets.
One less thing they can pull you over for.
saves your hearing (really, look up truckers ear, 20% plus hearing loss from wind and mufflers.)
fits nice.
saves money.
and if you do happen to slide corners, step on the throttle or anything like that.........Its much more quite.
Only the wheel squeel can give you away at 3am.
Plus, you dont wake the nieghborhood everytime you go somewhere at night.




So go bone stock now, or 3 years from now when whats new, hits your town.
i got my Meagan 3 inch off here for $200 and it sounds amazing... its deep and there is no poping on the revs down. and its very large and chrome and i wake up small kids at night while they sleep in my area... if your gunna go, go big lol

[ZX88]

n1 is so gay just steal a fence pipe and make an exhaust.

[GunmetalSR]

i say go order some blast pipes and hav a full custom exhaust made
itll sound mean as hell and u can hav the guy making the exhaust tuck it pretty high so u wont scrape

[GunmetalSR]

which flowmaster?

i wonder how it would sound on a SR20det..

2.25 inch exhaust?
3.25
2.25 would kinda choke an sr

[josephin510]

yeah muffler shop + flowmaster

check out this.. no ricer-rasp here
7TLwQ95kPY4

isnt 2.5'' pipe best for a N/A 240 anyway?

why loose torque, its what the KA is good at

Nice sound but I hate this guy is dogging the hell out of this bone stock slow azz 240. U should look on craigslist for somebody thats selling a stock one stock is better.

[s14canyoncity]

I just bought a HKS Hi-Power 2.5 for my stock KA love the way it sound not to loud it's below the CA-ref decibel. I didnt believe it when the forum member i bought it from said that when i bought it from him. but sure enough it was tested it and shit passed.

[Shadowhunter]

Not only is the fitment terrible but the baffling starts to go and fucks up the shitty glasspacks after about a year on those 'ebay' mufflers and they sound shittier and shittier until it sounds like pure ricer goodness. Not worth it, don't cheap out on anything.

[Xise]

Not only is the fitment terrible but the baffling starts to go and fucks up the shitty glasspacks after about a year on those 'ebay' mufflers and they sound shittier and shittier until it sounds like pure ricer goodness. Not worth it, don't cheap out on anything.

What do you know? you live in a whale's vagina....actually scholars maintain the true translation of "san Diego" was lost ages ago......lol j/k I think I want this megan dual tip catback, it sounds nice, looks closer to stock than the can types and I am sure it fits fine...I am just too cheap to pay that much for it, the cheapest one I found was $301...I was looking to spend about 1/2 that. I have looked and couldn't find anyone that makes a knock off of that one.

[Cr8zyDrifter]

Have you seen these?

http://zilvia.net/f/advertiser-specials-sales/266229-isis-exhaust-pre-order-sales.html

[Xise]

Have you seen these?

http://zilvia.net/f/advertiser-specials-sales/266229-isis-exhaust-pre-order-sales.html

yeah ranger240 showed me that site where they have the isis ones, they look just like the ones on ssac. Pretty nice from what I can tell. they are like the step in between ebay and ssac it seems. Is that promo code still active?

[BustedS13]

pretty confident "ISIS" is the same goddamn thing.

go to a muffler shop and have something slapped together. hurka durka.

[josephin510]

[quote=Xise;2957574]What do you know? you live in a whale's vagina....actually scholars maintain the true translation of "san Diego" was lost ages ago......lol j/k

you seen Anchorman way to many times lol

[Xise]

[quote=Xise;2957574]What do you know? you live in a whale's vagina....actually scholars maintain the true translation of "san Diego" was lost ages ago......lol j/k

you seen Anchorman way to many times lol

Of course none of the Californians get it, but at least someone did, lol, and yes.... yes I have seen that movie too many times. I mena c'mon Jack Black got hit with a burrito and then kicked a dog off a bridge, you know something for the whole family.

Oh yea and I have bought an exhaust, I'll post pics soon, thanks for everyone for helping me out and all the advice was much apreciated!! I am not slammed to the ground on coilovers so I think I will be alright with the scrape-age.

[1stock240]

why not buy you your muffler of choice and then go to Mineke, or however its spelt, and have them bend you a 2.5" pipe from the header or cat-back. thats what i did and the piping only cost me $150 or so and another $70 for a magnaflow muffler....

I did this on my Accord a long time ago. Magnaflow muffler was $110 and shop went cat back to it 2.25" all the way back. At first without resonator and it was pretty loud in cabin at highway speeds so I went back and had them ad a resonator. I couldn't believe the sound though. Nice and deep for a four banger. I used to get asked all the time what type of catback system I had. All in all it cost a total of $220. As far as performance I am sure it added no more than 5-10 horsepower but where I felt the difference is in the low RPM range where the accord used to suck, it got a little better. It did not sound ricey at all and just a tad louder and much deeper than stock. Inside the car you couldn't really tell much difference in sound but when I took it to say discount tire or somewhere where someone else drove it I was like "was that my car" I looked around to see if it was something more expensive but it was my car. Sorry for the long explaination but if custom shops do exhaust work for all these 60's muscle cars why do we need to pay 600 dollars for something prefabbed. Why pay 200 for something prefabbed with shitty fit when you can get it custom made for same price. Performance between custom and these high dollar systems might be about 1-2 horsepower and maybe bragging rights. Which I would rather brag that my 200 dollar exhausts fits and sounds better then the next guys 600plus name brand.

[Xise]

yeah I bought a nice looking ebay catback that I can always cut the can off and weld in a nice muffler when I find one I really like. i just wanted to get this particular one because it comes with a resonator and a test pipe, ended up costing about 150 after shipping.

Hey how many exhaust hanger do i need on an S13? i think it is 4 2 for the muffler section and 2 for the "mid pipe" section, are they all the same hangers or does the midpipe use a different hanger?

[Drift1285]

depending on the one you bought its 3 to 4 hangers, just get the 4" outlet, I have the 4.5" outlet and its fing loud as hell, have to use the silencer. At least its a complete bolt catback w/the test pipe; tired of seeing people place those $20 welded on mufflers.

[Xise]

finally got everything in the mail and installed, honestly aside from having to cut the downpipe to get the old exhaust off, the hangers were the tougest part lol.

Anyway it looks great and sounds even better to my surprise, who thought a $78 catback would sound as good as it does, headers might have somethingt o do with that though. My only complaint is that when I start it up or turn it off I can hear the piping clang around, that might just be because my egr stuff is not hooked up yet or maybe i just need to put some high heat padding so it doesn't bang around...as for the egr i am too lazy to take of the intake manifold so I am going to make my own piping and use a brass fitting or something to re connect it.

I am still not done as i do have a small exhaust leak right before the cat, lol I was ouside for too long i think I got heatstroke and put a gasket on backwards or something...we shall see but mostly it is done....just some loose ends to tie up, i'll post some pics tomorrow too

[nurvcom]

Sorry if this is off topic

I have 91 240sx HB With Rb20det can i buy any catback on ebay or where ever for 240sx hatch or does it need to be Custom since it swapped?

[Xise]

yeah you need to get a catback according to the make of your car so the piping clears all the moving parts so you can get any s13 exhaust, you might need to make a custom downpipe or cat section though.

Sorry if this is off topic

I have 91 240sx HB With Rb20det can i buy any catback on ebay or where ever for 240sx hatch or does it need to be Custom since it swapped?

[ZX88]

my ebay exhaust was great. fit great, never leak no matter how many times it hit pavement, no rust, or broken hangers. lasted about 3 years then sold it when i got my fence post exhaust.

if you have a s13 buy an s13 exhaust if you have a s14 buy an s14 the engine doesnt matter. downpipe set up is what really matters .

[zenki.life]

why do you all still decide to buy shit like this. stupid

[!Zar!]

I didn't read any of this mess.

But when it comes to duals all the n1 looking ones suck.

Funny thing is the SSautochrome n1 dual fits better than the Apexi dual n1.

Both are fucking ugly though.

3.25
2.25 would kinda choke an sr

Ehh, it kills some power.

But it isn't as bad as most make it sound.

I mean they come from the factory with small exhaust so it's whatever.

Everyone talks like they car will blow up with a small exhaust.

[Taniguchi_Is_#1]

why do you all still decide to buy shit like this. stupid


says the guy selling an ebay "bride" steering wheel. HE SHOOTS HE SCORES! lol.


but really, who buys ebay parts to make power? just get the one with the biggest muffler and set off all the alarms in a 2 mile radius that you can. real talk.

[!Zar!]

says the guy selling an ebay "bride" steering wheel. HE SHOOTS HE SCORES! lol.


but really, who buys ebay parts to make power? just get the one with the biggest muffler and set off all the alarms in a 2 mile radius that you can. real talk.

At least he's selling it...

[Xise]

Hey my headers and catback are both from ebay and they are great!! a header back system for under $200!! Why pay for name brands when they are all made in china anyway It's not like having ebay engine internals, exhaust is hardly a perfomance mod anyway mostly for sound/tone. Iactually searched everywhere for an ebay badge to put on my muffler lol, but I couldn't find one...i just wanted to piss off all the name brand people

i'll post some pics tomorrow, I washed the car then go too lazy to wait for my camera to charge

[chibo]

I ran a ssac single exit on my old sr like 4 years ago, it was actually very good quality, fit well, and looked good. I was incredibly surprised.

[zenki.life]

says the guy selling an ebay "bride" steering wheel. HE SHOOTS HE SCORES! lol.


but really, who buys ebay parts to make power? just get the one with the biggest muffler and set off all the alarms in a 2 mile radius that you can. real talk.

hey ricer fucktard. do you notice how my current steering wheel is a vertex 10th anniversary? do you also notice how the only offbrand shit on my car is a pair of megan lowering springs? what do you have in yours? proabally shit i would assume..

the wheel was my very first wheel that was given to me. found it in storage and decided to sell it.

so. Shut the fuck up if your to ignorant to speak.

[jimmytango00]

^ what about your cxracing turbo kit, tell everyone about that shit....


;)

[FaLKoN240]

hey ricer fucktard. do you notice how my current steering wheel is a vertex 10th anniversary? do you also notice how the only offbrand shit on my car is a pair of megan lowering springs? what do you have in yours? proabally shit i would assume..

the wheel was my very first wheel that was given to me. found it in storage and decided to sell it.

so. Shut the fuck up if your to ignorant to speak.

...lowering springs... MADE by Megan is the same if not WORSE than the Bride steering wheel.

If you're broke, don't get mad when people point out having cheap/knockoff shitty parts.

[zenki.life]

...lowering springs... MADE by Megan is the same if not WORSE than the Bride steering wheel.

If you're broke, don't get mad when people point out having cheap/knockoff shitty parts.

springs are springs. i dont track my car. and it wont kill my engine.springs are hard to fuck up unlike other offbrand components


and jimmytang you know very well i dont own a cxracing turbokit lol. i am against their products.

stop spreading rumors lol

[Taniguchi_Is_#1]

hey ricer fucktard. do you notice how my current steering wheel is a vertex 10th anniversary? do you also notice how the only offbrand shit on my car is a pair of megan lowering springs? what do you have in yours? proabally shit i would assume..

the wheel was my very first wheel that was given to me. found it in storage and decided to sell it.

so. Shut the fuck up if your to ignorant to speak.


is everyone on the internet this serious? or was my burn that sick, brah? in any case, i lol'ed. at this and your PM. chill out dude.

[Taniguchi_Is_#1]

oh yeah, i'm 22, like it says right under my name. how does it feel to know that i was buying my own stuff for my own 240 when you were in middle school?

[murda-c]

springs are springs. i dont track my car. and it wont kill my engine.springs are hard to fuck up unlike other offbrand components


and jimmytang you know very well i dont own a cxracing turbokit lol. i am against their products.

stop spreading rumors lol

here's a rumor...you're a brand whore

[ranger240]

hey ricer fucktard. do you notice how my current steering wheel is a vertex 10th anniversary? ...bitch bitch bitch.. itchy vagina itchy vagina...
so. Shut the fuck up if you're to ignorant to speak.

dude you need to cool it down and shut up.. i was going to quote your crap comment about why everyone buys this crap.. but here you go


heres the answer to your ignorant question
a:
they buy cheap exhausts to keep more money in their wallet.

like it or not, the 240sx is a $1500 car.

unlike you, who has overpriced CRAP (vertex wheel? a $150 momo prototipo was good enough for a porsche 917 and yet your car is cooler than that right... LOSER)

back to what i was saying, its a cheap old budget car... i know youre one of the real deal o.g. enthusiasts whos gonna slop all your money on the car, but face it.. they sold hundreds of thousands of 240s, its worth 1500 bucks, lots of people are going to buy the car to tide them over while they 'get their money right' and buy something COOL like a lotus or something....

if you cannot face this fact, or youre too dumb to realize it

you have no business whining about how everyone should spend 500+ on crap


but way to go bro, youre doin a great job braggin about how you have shit that porsche guys would laugh at.. keep it up duddeee

p.s. i hope you have the requisite quick release on that shit, that way its easy to steal

[!Zar!]

Oh how I love how poor people argue over their poor people parts with their poor excuses.

[zenki.life]

i believe in name brand parts. simple as that.

im glad im considered an OG enthusiast now. im prolly younger than 95 percent of the people on here.

people will just never understand what it means to just go the extra mile and get that better part. this has been discussed the difference between knockoff and a genuine tested part.

but at the end of the day everyone will have their cars, and i can say i at least tried to do my best to mine.

[murda-c]

i believe in name brand parts. simple as that.

im glad im considered an OG enthusiast now. im prolly younger than 95 percent of the people on here.

people will just never understand what it means to just go the extra mile and get that better part. this has been discussed the difference between knockoff and a genuine tested part.

but at the end of the day everyone will have their cars, and i can say i at least tried to do my best to mine.


Yet you still have megan springs?

Not that there's necessarily anything wrong with the megans...

[ArKiFiCiAl!]

Idk how the other ebay replica exhaust is,but I did buy my catback exhaust on ebay!It was a apexi gt spec btw.:naughty:

[zenki.life]

if you guys are going to be so nitpicky over 1 component of a car you need to get a life. we are not talking about some vital engine component. its a spring. however to anyone who is to judge they better have the actions to back up their words. otherwise its just wasted internet space. i was just expressing my distaste over something that we know to be inferior in quality to some company that took the time to design the part in the first place.

that is all.

[ranger240]

"real deal o.g. enthusiasts whos gonna slop all your money on the car" i was making fun of idiots who do that

glad to see youre dumb, just stop posting here.. this is about exhausts you dont like

but exhausts, that youtube of the nasty green hatch sounds better than at least half of the cars on here

[Xise]

no need to argue lol I already bought my exhaust anyway, besides this was a thread about what was the best knockoff ebay exhaust, not going to waste $500 for an exhaust for my stock KA24E lol I only got an exhaust now b/c some asshole that sold me my car welded a straight pipe right to the exhaust mani thus no flanges so i needed to get something new....you get what you pay for it was a $80 exhaust lol I am not trying to be a rockstar.

I wasn't expecting to get an awesome marvel of technology from a parts dealer in china, frankly I am suprised on how good it was, I was expecting it not to even fit right!

[Xise]

Moving along, when i got my egr fitting was comming off it cracked my egr tube so I was forced to cut it, the other lower egr fitting was welded to the header so i need to get some fittings to mend the tube I was thinking of using these http://img.alibaba.com/photo/226723661/BITE_TYPE_FITTING.jpg http://img.alibaba.com/photo/226724321/STAINLESS_STEEL_HOSE_FITTING.jpg

after that I was going to use some hoseclamps and put it right on the egr tube where I cut it. I just need to know where I can get a hose that can take the heat, any suggestions??

[aNskY]

^ who needs an egr?

[Xise]

someone who needs to pass emissions, plus it does give you a bit of gas mileage to boot, plus I also need the same fitting for AIV system. doesn't it also help against rough idles?

[Akiros]

lmfao, I saw this thread and thought, "Wow, 4 pages, I bet there is an argument about this"

[DreamN]

im glad im considered an OG enthusiast now.
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Entertaining thread to say the least lol.

[aNskY]

someone who needs to pass emissions, plus it does give you a bit of gas mileage to boot, plus I also need the same fitting for AIV system. doesn't it also help against rough idles?


What state in new england requires emissions tests on obd1 vehicles?

i love NY emissions.. lol

[Xise]

RI, and every state surrounding us does not need emissions dones for older cars....stupid I know, I knaow a guy that is a state inspector so I might just nix it after all. Anyway here are pics of it installed, behold my exhaust and all it's $80 glory...it actually sounds really good, no ricer rasp
http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/vv269/XiseTK/DSC01040.jpg
http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/vv269/XiseTK/DSC01041.jpg
just igonore the shitty tint job that someone did and then tried to scrape off...I bet i need new windsheild b/c he was scraping over the defroster part

[TrustS13]

My old exhaust! I've since had the can cut off and 2 blast pipes welded on..

http://i50.tinypic.com/sndoxt.jpg

[S13 curtis]

ebay exhaust are fine alot of people run them.

[scuba_steve91]

89-94 NISSAN 240SX EXHAUST - BOLT ON - (ALUMINIZED-2.5 IN) SYSTEM C (http://www.mandrelexhaustsystems.com/servlet/the-124/89-dsh-94-NISSAN-240SX-EXHAUST/Detail)

magnaflow seems cool. anyone have any experience with these?

[Xise]

all I know is i bought mine on ebay for $78 and it sounds awesome If i were you I wouldn't spend that much on an exhaust there are other far more important parts to buy with that$$ :)

240SX S13 CatBack Exhaust + Test Pipe 89 90 91 92 93 94:eBay Motors (item 280429434993 end time Nov-30-09 19:51:35 PST) (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/240SX-S13-CatBack-Exhaust-Test-Pipe-89-90-91-92-93-94_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem414ae59871QQitemZ280 429434993QQptZRaceQ5fCarQ5fParts)

check that out, all you need are the gaskets that come with your cat to mate it to the 2.25" cat, the cat gasket firs right inside the catback gasket so it is a perfect seal :)

[kognition]

"Too ignorant to speak". Not "to ignorant to speak". :keke:


hey ricer fucktard. do you notice how my current steering wheel is a vertex 10th anniversary? do you also notice how the only offbrand shit on my car is a pair of megan lowering springs? what do you have in yours? proabally shit i would assume..

the wheel was my very first wheel that was given to me. found it in storage and decided to sell it.

so. Shut the fuck up if your to ignorant to speak.

[Ceepo]

i beleive in buying name brand parts i myself run a buddy club spec 2 exhaust, but imho i didnt need to buy the bcs2, i just got a killer deal on it so i bought it, if its a exhaust all well if its ebay or home made, its a pipe for hell sake, now a ebay turbo is another story, as long as it doesnt hurt my safety or have moving parts i feel it can be a "knockoff", at the end of the day its a matter of opinion....

[kikcaffine]

springs are springs. i dont track my car. and it wont kill my engine.springs are hard to fuck up unlike other offbrand components


and jimmytang you know very well i dont own a cxracing turbokit lol. i am against their products.

stop spreading rumors lol

This comment just invalidated everything else you may ever post on this website.

[Xise]

lol i don't know if it is me or what but every thread i have ever started on zilvia has a fight in it....frankly i think it is hilarious.

but yea, springs are springs? seriously, suspension is probably the most important component you can buy so don't scrimp on the suspension parts....i would have gotten coilovers but if you live in the fine state of RI you would know why i got a set of tokico struts and springs...low ground clearance + RI roads = SCRAAAAAAAAPE!!!

as far as exhaust, i went cheap because i have spent $600 on a titanium catback and frankly the ebay ehaust sounds better IMO sooo, exhaust wise you don't always get what you pay for...judge for yourself though....
http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/vv269/XiseTK/th_MOV01109.jpg (http://s690.photobucket.com/albums/vv269/XiseTK/?action=view&current=MOV01109.flv)
ignore the rattle I haven't figured out what it is yet but it is unrelated to the exhaust, I do get a little backpressure after the rev, but it smooths out after a second or 2 you can hear it fairly clearly....not bad for a single cam KA24E with cat and 3" catback

either way I am happy with my piece of crap $80 ebay exhaust :wiggle:, lol the urethane hangers I bought were nearly 1/2 the price oif the exhaust itself

[carcrzy920]

haha i love when thread become arguements. gives me something to laugh at when im bored. man i just got my 240 with a ka24de running and on the road a couple days ago and i bought my a $115 shipped ebay N1 style catback. fit great, hangers all lined up, even came with a 14" resonator that wasnt even in the description. the only little problem i have with it is, in low rmps the canister rattlles against the rear tow hook. but my hammers is going to teach that tow hook a lesson soon when i can see my car again through the snow. VA got slammed yesterday with snow, about 24-28 inches in fredericksburg.

[s-cargo]

springs are springs. i dont track my car. and it wont kill my engine.springs are hard to fuck up unlike other offbrand components


and jimmytang you know very well i dont own a cxracing turbokit lol. i am against their products.

stop spreading rumors lol

i would rather have an ebay exhaust scrape and fall off my car than have some ebay springs snap/ shoot into my tire, and ruin my car.... just sayin

[Xise]

yeah man, cheap ass exhaust is fine but when it comes to the running gear, you wan to keep that shit legit...I get a mean rattle near my engine bay after installing the header back...can't tell exactly what it is but it sure is annoying as fuck! One of my exhaust hanger mounts rusted at the weld also so this car is a work in progress....next up on the chopping block for me is replacing rotted frame rails and complete brake system all around then I will be mobile :D