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krissynbeau
06-28-2009, 11:57 PM
anyone pass smog with a 5-speed conversion?
I want to get one done on my car but I want still pass smog.

5t341tH
06-29-2009, 12:12 AM
why the hell wouldnt it? are you assuming from the CEL light?

krissynbeau
06-29-2009, 12:15 AM
yes, that would be one of my concerns

Ceepo
06-29-2009, 12:19 AM
pull the bulb out lol... well never mind that wouldnt work dont they check for that when you turn the key to accessories?

usdm180sx
06-29-2009, 12:32 AM
Make sure the tranny matches your motor. OBD 1 motor to OBD 1 tranny or OBD 2 motor to OBD 2 tranny and you should be fine

nep
06-29-2009, 12:32 AM
1. manual ecu
2. follow this: S14 Tranny Swap - Electrical Connections (http://www.ka24development.com/cwilfert/S14_tranny_swap_electrical.html)
3. if you have an obdII s14 you need the CAS sensor that goes into the bellhousing of the trans

DreamN
06-29-2009, 12:53 AM
if it's an s13 there is no issue. s14 use 5 spd ecu and follow all wiring.

search. you'll find more info.

krissynbeau
06-29-2009, 04:14 AM
I have a 1993, does that mean I cant use a 94 tranny

bo2o
06-29-2009, 04:35 AM
it should be fine. its a visual,
just go to a smog guy you know and tell him y its throwing a code.
smog guys that are dicks wont want to pass it. but if your cool with the tech it should be fine.

codunc
06-29-2009, 04:36 AM
94 trannies are all auto, as all 94s are verts here.
so that wouldn't be a good candidate for a 5spd conversion

DALAZ_68
06-29-2009, 08:22 AM
pull the bulb out lol... well never mind that wouldnt work dont they check for that when you turn the key to accessories?

or she can cut the wires and splice into the one of the other bulbs that isnt on, like window fluid or w/e other crap in on the cluster...others done it, works...

ixfxi
06-29-2009, 10:35 AM
how about just doing right and not fucking around with jerry rigging your gauge cluster or disabling the fucking CEL

its a transmission swap, its easy as cake. do it fuckin right... i cant imagine anyone not passing smog due to a transmission swap.. youde have to be the biggest fuckin noob to fuck that up

driftage240
06-29-2009, 12:17 PM
If u do the swap correctly you wont have a prob..my 93 vert doesn't throw a cel..my reverse lights work and my top(do it wrong your top wont worky)....well then again i did the swap..and im super cool and sexy.. :)

The Gray Ghost
06-29-2009, 12:39 PM
anyone pass smog with a 5-speed conversion?
I want to get one done on my car but I want still pass smog.

I converted my 240sx from an automatic to a 5 speed and had no problem passing smog.

projectRDM
06-29-2009, 02:59 PM
I have a 1993, does that mean I cant use a 94 tranny

The transmission has nothing to with emissions unless the chassis is a 1996+, and that's only due to the CEL.

89-95 chassis, use any 89-98 transmission. Passes smog the same as an auto. We've been over this for over a dozen years.

lflkajfj12123
06-29-2009, 03:15 PM
man this thread sucks

DALAZ_68
06-29-2009, 03:45 PM
how about just doing right and not fucking around with jerry rigging your gauge cluster or disabling the fucking CEL

its a transmission swap, its easy as cake. do it fuckin right... i cant imagine anyone not passing smog due to a transmission swap.. youde have to be the biggest fuckin noob to fuck that up
lol

im just offering the lazy fuck option, i wouldnt do it...i currently have my CEL on due to bad EGR...gotta get that change out soon... :tardrim:

DreamN
06-29-2009, 03:47 PM
^Just clean it. Sometimes that's all that shit needs.

heavenboundkevin
06-29-2009, 04:10 PM
The transmission has nothing to with emissions unless the chassis is a 1996+, and that's only due to the CEL.

89-95 chassis, use any 89-98 transmission. Passes smog the same as an auto. We've been over this for over a dozen years.


good info. thanks.

don_bagz
07-25-2009, 10:25 AM
already stated above, make sure motor obd1 has obd1 tranny.. get a 5 speed ecu and that will get rid of the cel.. unless you got other problems that will keep the light on. My kouki was auto, got it swapped. got my 5 speed ecu in. got rid of the light no prob. just got my smog test last month.

ILoveMyRHS13
07-25-2009, 12:15 PM
already stated above, make sure motor obd1 has obd1 tranny.. get a 5 speed ecu and that will get rid of the cel.. unless you got other problems that will keep the light on. My kouki was auto, got it swapped. got my 5 speed ecu in. got rid of the light no prob. just got my smog test last month.
You bumped a month old thread just to say you agree? What the fuck.

DreamN
07-25-2009, 12:57 PM
And his information was still half assed.

bnr32_coupe
07-25-2009, 07:05 PM
pull the bulb out lol... well never mind that wouldnt work dont they check for that when you turn the key to accessories?

You can wire it up to another bulb that lights up temporarily when you put the key into ingnition/acc

don_bagz
07-26-2009, 01:41 AM
You bumped a month old thread just to say you agree? What the fuck.

that was my bad. i was doing a search and stumbled upon the thread.. didnt realize how old it was..

And his information was still half assed.
that was a break down of stuff.. you want me to explain in detail for you? get a life. get off me.

projectRDM
07-26-2009, 06:44 AM
that was a break down of stuff.. you want me to explain in detail for you? get a life. get off me.

His point was you said "OBD-I transmission", there is no such thing. The transmission has nothing to do with emissions.

S14 units add the crank position sensor for diagnosis of misfire, though it is NOT an OBD-I/OBD-II thing as all 1995 models are OBD-I.

What you meant to say, is that if you're doing a 5speed swap on an S14 chassis, it's better to use an S14 transmission since it has the CPS hole already. That's the appropriate answer.

S14 DOES NOT EQUAL OBD-II. EVER.

So for the last time, ALL 89-98 MANUAL TRANSMISSION ARE THE SAME. Period, save for a few switch changes throughout production. None of them are OBD-I specific or OBD-II specific.

don_bagz
07-26-2009, 10:59 AM
His point was you said "OBD-I transmission", there is no such thing. The transmission has nothing to do with emissions.

S14 units add the crank position sensor for diagnosis of misfire, though it is NOT an OBD-I/OBD-II thing as all 1995 models are OBD-I.

What you meant to say, is that if you're doing a 5speed swap on an S14 chassis, it's better to use an S14 transmission since it has the CPS hole already. That's the appropriate answer.

S14 DOES NOT EQUAL OBD-II. EVER.

So for the last time, ALL 89-98 MANUAL TRANSMISSION ARE THE SAME. Period, save for a few switch changes throughout production. None of them are OBD-I specific or OBD-II specific.

thats what i meant to say.. was, if you had a obdII car, you will need a tranny that has a CPS hole(which only came in obdII cars).. guess, it was written wrong.. but thats what i meant to say.

Ares240SX
07-26-2009, 11:04 AM
I passed smog, in CA, with a manual swap. The guy didn't even ask any questions even though when he put the VIN into the computer it told him it was an automatic car originally. Shouldn't be a problem.

drift freaq
07-26-2009, 03:44 PM
I passed smog, in CA, with a manual swap. The guy didn't even ask any questions even though when he put the VIN into the computer it told him it was an automatic car originally. Shouldn't be a problem.

Of course he didn't. There is no smog equipment on your trans.

LOL

Seriously this thread is so stupid and full of shit. It should have ended with what Project RDM said.

Mods please come and lock this lame excuse of a thread.

projectRDM
07-26-2009, 04:00 PM
thats what i meant to say.. was, if you had a obdII car, you will need a tranny that has a CPS hole(which only came in obdII cars).. guess, it was written wrong.. but thats what i meant to say.

You are still incorrect. The CPS is found on ALL S14 models, '95-'98. Only '96-'98 models are OBD-II though. The changeover is NOT OBD-I vs. II, it's S13 vs. S14.

1995 models are ALL OBD-I.

I don't know how to word it any clearer.

DreamN
07-26-2009, 04:07 PM
Russ, actually some late model California '95s are OBD-II.

drift freaq
07-26-2009, 04:16 PM
Russ, actually some late model California '95s are OBD-II.

Though its still a moot point Jimmy. This thread needs to stop. Here and now. LOL

The point is,you can pass smog with any trans
because the trans has nothing to do with smog equipment, beside a flywheel sensor being mounted on later model model trans. I.E. most S14's, and the need for wiring up the trans completely on a OBDII S14. So you do not trigger a check engine light.

Other than that any year trans can be used for the swap. Now please people read the information in the archive and faq section because its all there!

OK! now lets end this damn thread!

importdude
07-26-2009, 04:31 PM
Russ, actually some late model California '95s are OBD-II.

Exactly

Im one of them

zenki.life
07-26-2009, 05:07 PM
how about just doing right and not fucking around with jerry rigging your gauge cluster or disabling the fucking CEL

its a transmission swap, its easy as cake. do it fuckin right... i cant imagine anyone not passing smog due to a transmission swap.. youde have to be the biggest fuckin noob to fuck that up

hahaha. yep yep yep

FaLKoN240
07-26-2009, 05:28 PM
This thread are dumb. Lockplz.

mistaJDM
07-31-2009, 12:57 PM
i just got a 93' vert
would i have any problems passing smog?

I LUV MY S13
07-31-2009, 01:08 PM
i just got a 93' vert
would i have any problems passing smog?


hahaha wtf:stupid:

usdm180sx
07-31-2009, 01:36 PM
i just got a 93' vert
would i have any problems passing smog?

Stupidest question evar

projectRDM
07-31-2009, 06:41 PM
i just got a 93' vert
would i have any problems passing smog?

I hope you wreck. Badly.

zenki.life
08-01-2009, 03:26 AM
why isnt this locked already?

phlip?
thatguy?
crimson?

what the hell?