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krissynbeau · 06-28-2009, 11:57 PM

anyone pass smog with a 5-speed conversion?
I want to get one done on my car but I want still pass smog.

5t341tH · 06-29-2009, 12:12 AM

why the hell wouldnt it? are you assuming from the CEL light?

krissynbeau · 06-29-2009, 12:15 AM

yes, that would be one of my concerns

Ceepo · 06-29-2009, 12:19 AM

pull the bulb out lol... well never mind that wouldnt work dont they check for that when you turn the key to accessories?

usdm180sx · 06-29-2009, 12:32 AM

Make sure the tranny matches your motor. OBD 1 motor to OBD 1 tranny or OBD 2 motor to OBD 2 tranny and you should be fine

nep · 06-29-2009, 12:32 AM

1. manual ecu
2. follow this: S14 Tranny Swap - Electrical Connections
3. if you have an obdII s14 you need the CAS sensor that goes into the bellhousing of the trans

DreamN · 06-29-2009, 12:53 AM

if it's an s13 there is no issue. s14 use 5 spd ecu and follow all wiring.

search. you'll find more info.

krissynbeau · 06-29-2009, 04:14 AM

I have a 1993, does that mean I cant use a 94 tranny

bo2o · 06-29-2009, 04:35 AM

it should be fine. its a visual,
just go to a smog guy you know and tell him y its throwing a code.
smog guys that are dicks wont want to pass it. but if your cool with the tech it should be fine.

codunc · 06-29-2009, 04:36 AM

94 trannies are all auto, as all 94s are verts here.
so that wouldn't be a good candidate for a 5spd conversion

*DALAZ_68* · 06-29-2009, 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ceepo

pull the bulb out lol... well never mind that wouldnt work dont they check for that when you turn the key to accessories?

or she can cut the wires and splice into the one of the other bulbs that isnt on, like window fluid or w/e other crap in on the cluster...others done it, works...

ixfxi · 06-29-2009, 10:35 AM

how about just doing right and not fucking around with jerry rigging your gauge cluster or disabling the fucking CEL

its a transmission swap, its easy as cake. do it fuckin right... i cant imagine anyone not passing smog due to a transmission swap.. youde have to be the biggest fuckin noob to fuck that up

driftage240 · 06-29-2009, 12:17 PM

If u do the swap correctly you wont have a prob..my 93 vert doesn't throw a cel..my reverse lights work and my top(do it wrong your top wont worky)....well then again i did the swap..and im super cool and sexy..

The Gray Ghost · 06-29-2009, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krissynbeau

anyone pass smog with a 5-speed conversion?
I want to get one done on my car but I want still pass smog.

I converted my 240sx from an automatic to a 5 speed and had no problem passing smog.

projectRDM · 06-29-2009, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krissynbeau

I have a 1993, does that mean I cant use a 94 tranny

The transmission has nothing to with emissions unless the chassis is a 1996+, and that's only due to the CEL.

89-95 chassis, use any 89-98 transmission. Passes smog the same as an auto. We've been over this for over a dozen years.

lflkajfj12123 · 06-29-2009, 03:15 PM

man this thread sucks

*DALAZ_68* · 06-29-2009, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ixfxi

how about just doing right and not fucking around with jerry rigging your gauge cluster or disabling the fucking CEL

its a transmission swap, its easy as cake. do it fuckin right... i cant imagine anyone not passing smog due to a transmission swap.. youde have to be the biggest fuckin noob to fuck that up

lol

im just offering the lazy fuck option, i wouldnt do it...i currently have my CEL on due to bad EGR...gotta get that change out soon...

DreamN · 06-29-2009, 03:47 PM

^Just clean it. Sometimes that's all that shit needs.

heavenboundkevin · 06-29-2009, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by projectRDM

The transmission has nothing to with emissions unless the chassis is a 1996+, and that's only due to the CEL.

89-95 chassis, use any 89-98 transmission. Passes smog the same as an auto. We've been over this for over a dozen years.

good info. thanks.

don_bagz · 07-25-2009, 10:25 AM

already stated above, make sure motor obd1 has obd1 tranny.. get a 5 speed ecu and that will get rid of the cel.. unless you got other problems that will keep the light on. My kouki was auto, got it swapped. got my 5 speed ecu in. got rid of the light no prob. just got my smog test last month.

ILoveMyRHS13 · 07-25-2009, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by don_bagz

already stated above, make sure motor obd1 has obd1 tranny.. get a 5 speed ecu and that will get rid of the cel.. unless you got other problems that will keep the light on. My kouki was auto, got it swapped. got my 5 speed ecu in. got rid of the light no prob. just got my smog test last month.

You bumped a month old thread just to say you agree? What the fuck.

DreamN · 07-25-2009, 12:57 PM

And his information was still half assed.

bnr32_coupe · 07-25-2009, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ceepo

pull the bulb out lol... well never mind that wouldnt work dont they check for that when you turn the key to accessories?

You can wire it up to another bulb that lights up temporarily when you put the key into ingnition/acc

don_bagz · 07-26-2009, 01:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILoveMyRHS13

You bumped a month old thread just to say you agree? What the fuck.

that was my bad. i was doing a search and stumbled upon the thread.. didnt realize how old it was..

Quote:

Originally Posted by DreamN

And his information was still half assed.

that was a break down of stuff.. you want me to explain in detail for you? get a life. get off me.

projectRDM · 07-26-2009, 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by don_bagz

that was a break down of stuff.. you want me to explain in detail for you? get a life. get off me.

His point was you said "OBD-I transmission", there is no such thing. The transmission has nothing to do with emissions.

S14 units add the crank position sensor for diagnosis of misfire, though it is NOT an OBD-I/OBD-II thing as all 1995 models are OBD-I.

What you meant to say, is that if you're doing a 5speed swap on an S14 chassis, it's better to use an S14 transmission since it has the CPS hole already. That's the appropriate answer.

S14 DOES NOT EQUAL OBD-II. EVER.

So for the last time, ALL 89-98 MANUAL TRANSMISSION ARE THE SAME. Period, save for a few switch changes throughout production. None of them are OBD-I specific or OBD-II specific.

don_bagz · 07-26-2009, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by projectRDM

His point was you said "OBD-I transmission", there is no such thing. The transmission has nothing to do with emissions.

S14 units add the crank position sensor for diagnosis of misfire, though it is NOT an OBD-I/OBD-II thing as all 1995 models are OBD-I.

What you meant to say, is that if you're doing a 5speed swap on an S14 chassis, it's better to use an S14 transmission since it has the CPS hole already. That's the appropriate answer.

S14 DOES NOT EQUAL OBD-II. EVER.

So for the last time, ALL 89-98 MANUAL TRANSMISSION ARE THE SAME. Period, save for a few switch changes throughout production. None of them are OBD-I specific or OBD-II specific.

thats what i meant to say.. was, if you had a obdII car, you will need a tranny that has a CPS hole(which only came in obdII cars).. guess, it was written wrong.. but thats what i meant to say.

Ares240SX · 07-26-2009, 11:04 AM

I passed smog, in CA, with a manual swap. The guy didn't even ask any questions even though when he put the VIN into the computer it told him it was an automatic car originally. Shouldn't be a problem.

drift freaq · 07-26-2009, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ares240SX

I passed smog, in CA, with a manual swap. The guy didn't even ask any questions even though when he put the VIN into the computer it told him it was an automatic car originally. Shouldn't be a problem.

Of course he didn't. There is no smog equipment on your trans.

LOL

Seriously this thread is so stupid and full of shit. It should have ended with what Project RDM said.

Mods please come and lock this lame excuse of a thread.

projectRDM · 07-26-2009, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by don_bagz

thats what i meant to say.. was, if you had a obdII car, you will need a tranny that has a CPS hole(which only came in obdII cars).. guess, it was written wrong.. but thats what i meant to say.

You are still incorrect. The CPS is found on ALL S14 models, '95-'98. Only '96-'98 models are OBD-II though. The changeover is NOT OBD-I vs. II, it's S13 vs. S14.

1995 models are ALL OBD-I.

I don't know how to word it any clearer.

DreamN · 07-26-2009, 04:07 PM

Russ, actually some late model California '95s are OBD-II.

06-28-2009, 11:57 PM	#1
krissynbeau Leaky Injector Join Date: May 2009 Location: so cal Age: 35 Posts: 105 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	anyone pass smog with a 5-speed conversion? anyone pass smog with a 5-speed conversion? I want to get one done on my car but I want still pass smog.

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Ceepo Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Cedar City, Utah Posts: 2,007 Trader Rating: (9) Rides Gallery: Ceepo Feedback Score: 9 reviews	pull the bulb out lol... well never mind that wouldnt work dont they check for that when you turn the key to accessories? __________________ TW: http://zilvia.net/f/cars-sale/390459...d9s-coils.html

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usdm180sx Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: 562 Posts: 4,807 Trader Rating: (5) Rides Gallery: usdm180sx Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Make sure the tranny matches your motor. OBD 1 motor to OBD 1 tranny or OBD 2 motor to OBD 2 tranny and you should be fine __________________ -Norm!

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DreamN Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: SoCal - 818 Age: 36 Posts: 10,691 Trader Rating: (54) Rides Gallery: DreamN Feedback Score: 54 reviews	if it's an s13 there is no issue. s14 use 5 spd ecu and follow all wiring. search. you'll find more info. __________________ - Jimmy Wanted: TBD For Sale: TBD

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krissynbeau Leaky Injector Join Date: May 2009 Location: so cal Age: 35 Posts: 105 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	yes, that would be one of my concerns

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nep Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Oceanside, CA Posts: 370 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	1. manual ecu 2. follow this: S14 Tranny Swap - Electrical Connections 3. if you have an obdII s14 you need the CAS sensor that goes into the bellhousing of the trans

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krissynbeau Leaky Injector Join Date: May 2009 Location: so cal Age: 35 Posts: 105 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I have a 1993, does that mean I cant use a 94 tranny

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codunc Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Denver, CO Age: 31 Posts: 316 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	94 trannies are all auto, as all 94s are verts here. so that wouldn't be a good candidate for a 5spd conversion

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ixfxi Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: bangin on my chest Account: BANNED #fucksupreme Age: 79 Posts: 5,923 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	how about just doing right and not fucking around with jerry rigging your gauge cluster or disabling the fucking CEL its a transmission swap, its easy as cake. do it fuckin right... i cant imagine anyone not passing smog due to a transmission swap.. youde have to be the biggest fuckin noob to fuck that up

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driftage240 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TUJUNGA Age: 37 Posts: 2,869 Trader Rating: (23) Feedback Score: 23 reviews	If u do the swap correctly you wont have a prob..my 93 vert doesn't throw a cel..my reverse lights work and my top(do it wrong your top wont worky)....well then again i did the swap..and im super cool and sexy.. __________________ Misty blu is coming 4 you!

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lflkajfj12123 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: 　　　　　　　　 Posts: 8,480 Trader Rating: (20) Feedback Score: 20 reviews	man this thread sucks

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DreamN Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: SoCal - 818 Age: 36 Posts: 10,691 Trader Rating: (54) Rides Gallery: DreamN Feedback Score: 54 reviews	^Just clean it. Sometimes that's all that shit needs. __________________ - Jimmy Wanted: TBD For Sale: TBD

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don_bagz Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Colton in SanBernardoo (socal) Age: 35 Posts: 1,532 Trader Rating: (17) Feedback Score: 17 reviews	already stated above, make sure motor obd1 has obd1 tranny.. get a 5 speed ecu and that will get rid of the cel.. unless you got other problems that will keep the light on. My kouki was auto, got it swapped. got my 5 speed ecu in. got rid of the light no prob. just got my smog test last month.

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DreamN Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: SoCal - 818 Age: 36 Posts: 10,691 Trader Rating: (54) Rides Gallery: DreamN Feedback Score: 54 reviews	And his information was still half assed. __________________ - Jimmy Wanted: TBD For Sale: TBD

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Ares240SX Leaky Injector Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Nor Cal Age: 37 Posts: 141 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I passed smog, in CA, with a manual swap. The guy didn't even ask any questions even though when he put the VIN into the computer it told him it was an automatic car originally. Shouldn't be a problem.

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DreamN Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: SoCal - 818 Age: 36 Posts: 10,691 Trader Rating: (54) Rides Gallery: DreamN Feedback Score: 54 reviews	Russ, actually some late model California '95s are OBD-II. __________________ - Jimmy Wanted: TBD For Sale: TBD

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