Opinions on motor build

[mr_eh]

so, long story short picked up this motor for 3000$, I haven't had time to research (yeah I know, I suck) if there are better performing parts for each area, so was just looking for some general common sr20 sense if something should be swapped out for a diff brand, specifically the cams, I haven't seen many people running the bc stg3's from what I did get a chance to look at...

car's going to get a fr gt35r kit fwiw.

SR20DET
Bored .20 Over
JE 2618 T6 Forged Pistons
- Bore: 86.0mm STD
- Stroke: 3.386
- Rod: 5.366
- C/D: 1.253
- Head CC’s: 46.5
- Compression Ratio: 8.5:1
- Dome CC’s: -11.3
- Gram Each: 330
Manley H-Beam Rods
Tomei Wrist Pins
Nismo Billet Crank
Nismo high Tencil Bearing Cap Bolts
Timken main and thrust bearings
ARP Head Studs
Cometic3 layer MLS head gasket
3 Angle Valve Job by JGY Customs
Brian Crower Stage 3 Cams
- Adv. Dur.: 272°/272°
- Dur @ .050: 224°/224°
- Lift (in): .494″/.494″
- Lift (mm): 12.55/12.55.
Greddy Rocker Arm Stoppers
specs/brand pending cam gears
Head Specs (Retainers)
- Seat: 1.550″ @ 90lbs
- Open: 1.025″ @220lbs
- Coil Bind: 0.910″
- Exhaust: Brian Crower BC3208 - 30.65mm - +0.5mm
- Intake: Brian Crower BC202 - 34.65mm - +0.5mm
- Brian Crower Springs & Guides
Greddy Intake Manifold
Greddy Oil Pan
68mm Billet Throttle Body (unsure of brand)
Nismo Coil Packs
Nismo Oil Pump & Timing Chain

[godsmack]

I know that the bc are harder to get the timing right. you will need cam gears to get it right. IMO with the gt35 i'd up the pistons to the 9:1 compression for alittle better spool but as far as the rest goes... it looks like you're going to be having some fun with a nice setup.

[waynehead05]

Why not go with a larger throttle body?

[mr_eh]

yeah im not sure what cam gears came with the motor, i will most likely go with hks cam gears, i was also considering switching to hks 272 cams and ditching the bc's....

the pistons arent coming out they are already seated in the block, and i havent really looked into a larger throttle body...

[nissan240]

i think you should get tomei camshafts! way better than bc and hks in my opinion! wont have to mess with timing at all, and they have been proven to produce more power than any other camshafts out there for sr!

[deukalionS14]

I have BC's 264/264 cams and dont mind them really. I want to have a 256/264 cam set up and get cam gears to eliminate the VCT though. have fun with your built motor!!!

[Zerolift Autolab]

I've seen two different motors with broken BC cams in the past week.
Both assembled by different people, so its not the same person who had an assembly error.
We have seen the HKS cams produce better gains than the Tomei in very similar engine builds.
If you want something bigger/badder than either of these, Talk to me about the Kelford 280's :D

PS your bore should be 86.5 if it is 20 over

[mr_eh]

hmm im gonna have to look into if the bore is off, would suck if it was :)

it's looking more and more likely that i'll stick with the bc stg3 cams and just get hks cam gears... gonna go over some with the engine builder ~april10th to make sure everything looks good

[deukalionS14]

yeah i need a rebuild now due to piston rings going bad but after the rebuild tomei's are going in!

[mr_eh]

hmm any opinions on twin scroll vs single scroll for a gt35r ? .63 for single 1.06 for the ts =|

[mr_eh]

wound up going with a ts 354, hks 264/272 step 2s, and a q45 tb =V greddy cam gears...

now im wondering if the h beams will hold up past 600 if i get there

[SleepR 240sx]

now im wondering if the h beams will hold up past 600 if i get there

Getting a good tune will help a lot in that regard.

[jspaeth]

All of this money on a high hp build with quality parts and.......

you are going with a COMETIC headgasket?


Shouldn't you go with something a little bit better than that?

:wtf:

[garagelu]

All of this money on a high hp build with quality parts and.......

you are going with a COMETIC headgasket?


Shouldn't you go with something a little bit better than that?

:wtf:

well if you would read, it says he bought the engine will all these parts on it already. He is asking if there are better options for each part.

But yes, definately go with a gasket that is proven. Apexi, cosworth, power enterprise, hks, greddy are all good brands. And get rid of those BC cams. They suck. I know from experience.

[jspaeth]

well if you would read, it says he bought the engine will all these parts on it already. He is asking if there are better options for each part.

But yes, definately go with a gasket that is proven. Apexi, cosworth, power enterprise, hks, greddy are all good brands. And get rid of those BC cams. They suck. I know from experience.


My bad on this one, I didn't quite understand the wording when I first read it.

Yeah go with something better...Apexi, Cosworth, etc.

[fliprayzin240sx]

Stock rods have been pushed to 600hp, Manley H-beams are better than Eagle rods if I remember right. Think thats the last thing you'd have to worry about. What size injectors are you planning on slapping on this engine and what size turbo again?

[ericb382]

Do JE pistons come with tomei wrist pins? I've never used JE but that seems weird that they don't have JE wrist pins...

Sounds like you're going to have to pull the pistons back out any way if you're bored .020 over and have stock bore pistons... might as well get some 9:1's if that's the case.

[steve shadows]

Make sure you use Cosworth, PE, HKS or EVEN BETTER THAN ALL OF THESE
Apexi HG.

If you have your car tuned properly on a brake eddy dyno like a dyno dynamics you should be able to have a reliable 500-600 WHP setup with stock rods. No problemo.

[mr_eh]

thnx for replies, i did wind up switching the head gasket, went with cosworth, i guess i can throw up the whole updated build as of today here....

:braking
Hawk HPS Pads
Brembo Blank Rotors
Fairlady Z 30MM Aluminum 4 Piston Front and 2 Piston Rear Calipers
Z32 E-Brake Assembly
R32 E-Brake Lines
Z32 Brake master Cylinder
Meiji Performance 5 Lug Hub & Spindles
Stainless Steel Brake Lines w/ Teflon Coating
: drivetrain
Mazworx SRVG Adapter Kit
Mazworx Z32 Transmission - Cleaned/Inspected/Machined For Adapter Plate
Exedy Triple Disc Clutch
S14 Brake Pedal Assembly
S14 Clutch Pedal Assembly
Agency Power Clutch Line
Slave Cylinder

: electronics
APEXi Power Fuel Commander
S13 SR Harness
AutoMeter Ultra-Lite 40psi Boost Gauge
AutoMeter Ultra-Lite Oil Pressure Gauge
AutoMeter Ultra-Lite Oil Temperature Gauge
AEM Wideband Gauge
: suspension
Tein Flex Coilovers
Tein Tie Rods
Tein Front Strut Bar
Tein Top Hats
Cusco Front Sway Bar
: cosmetic/exterior/interior crocodile alligator
Zenki JDM OEM Rear Valances
Zenki JDM OEM Sideskirts
S14 JDM Zenki Aero Grille
Zenki OEM S14 Lip
50mm Rear Over Fenders
30mm Front Fenders
Carbon Fiber Hood
Carbon Fiber Trunk
JIC Magic Reclining Seat
Takata 4 Point Harness

5zigen FN01R-C
- Rear 17×10 5×114.3 +12 w/ Kumho ASX 275/40/17
- Front 17×9 5×114.3 + 15 w/ Kumho ASX 245/40/17
: performance
Full Race Turbo Kit
- Gen 2 SR RWD Prostreet Twinscroll T3 Manifold
- Gen 2 SR RWD 3.0in. Downpipe
- Tial 44mm Wastegate x 2
- Garrett GT3582R 1.06 a/r
- Optional FR S13 240SX/Silvia FMIC
Built By Pride Performance Engine Components:
SR20DET
Bored .20 Over
JE 2618 T6 Forged Pistons
Manley H-Beam Rods
Tomei Wrist Pins
Nismo High Tencil Bearing Cap Bolts
Nismo Coil Packs
Timken Main & Thrust Bearings
ARP Head Studs
3 Angle Valve Job by JGY Customs
HKS Step 2 264/272 Cams
Brian Crower Retainers / Springs / Guides
Brian Crower Billet Crank
Greddy Rocker Arm Stoppers
Greddy Intake Manifold
Greddy Oil Pan
Greddy Cam Gears
Greddy Fuel Rail
Q45 Throttle Body 90mm (82.5mm plate)
Aeromotive A1000 Fuel Pressure Regulator
Cosworth Head Gasket
RC Engineering 1000cc Injectors
Greddy Ti-C Catback Exhaust
Setrab Oil Cooler
Mishimoto Radiator
Mishimoto Fan Shroud
Mishimoto Fans
Nissan Test Pipe
Nismo or Peak Performance Engine Mounts
Heater Core Hoses

[Sileighty_85]

Stock rods have been pushed to 600hp, Manley H-beams are better than Eagle rods if I remember right.


I dont think many ppl know this but Eagle upgraded the rod bolts a little while ago increasing its strenght to 900hp
http://www.eaglerod.com/index2.php?option=com_flippingbook&Itemid=38&book_id=2

Im not saying they are better than Manley rods, just saying.

[fliprayzin240sx]

I dont think many ppl know this but Eagle upgraded the rod bolts a little while ago increasing its strenght to 900hp
Eagle Specialty Products, Inc. - 2008 Catalog (http://www.eaglerod.com/index2.php?option=com_flippingbook&Itemid=38&book_id=2)

Im not saying they are better than Manley rods, just saying.

How far back ago because I bought Eagle Rods last year...

[let5l1de]

How far back ago because I bought Eagle Rods last year...

This also depends on where you bought them and what their stock was. Manufactures always blow out older stock @ discount pricing and stores typically buy'em all up quickly. This gives them greater stock at less expense cost all while retailing at a slightly discounted price.

Check your build or control number and call eagle.

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build this thing already...

~m


----edit:
Eagle rods are great sportsman type rods that can handle power. As with any build, when an engine reaches a certain level of RPM, the harmonics, resonance/vibrations etc. must be addressed along with a well tuned ecu for your build.

[ericb382]

How far back ago because I bought Eagle Rods last year...

According to that link ARP 2000 is the new hardware. I was surprised to see my Eagles come with ARP 2000's and that was about 3 yrs ago...

[gospdracer90]

is that a list of what your doing to the car or what you have finished already because i would love to see some pics

[mr_eh]

is that a list of what your doing to the car or what you have finished already because i would love to see some pics

the stuff in red i havent purchased, which is preventing me from assembling the motor, i don't want it to sit for a few more months while i save $... small income with big dreams = lots of waiting lol...

but i do have a bunch of pictures of parts laying around, working on getting a more fleshed out archive of pictures

http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/3/l_441391bb46b740439dcceffef326c7f2.jpg

old turbo/manifold that i sold that came with the motor

http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/30/l_1b8b77749fcb4013b3b7f7e9ad62b4f2.jpg

http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/75/l_96bf0f2290dd40b2b88b05efdfecdfb3.jpg

greddy fuel rail / cam gears

http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs266.snc1/9335_180437427391_672107391_3782204_715733_n.jpg

http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs111.snc1/5109_110637297391_672107391_2805925_7588748_n.jpg

when i get more pictures i'll update... should be up and running over winter hopefully... the exedy clutch is holding me up at this point =/ once that and the power fc is ordered i'll probably start putting things together