BREAKING! Infiniti Essence!

[exitspeed]

:eek2: THAT IS DROP DEAD GORGEOUS!

"Powered by a twin-turbo, direct-injection 3.7-liter V6 and a new electric drive design dubbed "3D Motor", the Essence yields a combined 592 brake horsepower (434 via internal-combustion, 158 brake horsepower via the lithium-ion backed disc-shaped electric motor).

The very unjapanese scale of the Essence yields a more Nippon-influenced interior for two, including an attractive driver-oriented "cocoon" that features a flat-bottomed steering wheel, hand-painted wood designed to look like Japanese laquerware and eccentricities like asymmetrical seat seams that mimic the way 'Japanese men and women tie their kimonos." Presumably, said kimonos fit nicely in the bespoke Louis Vuitton luggage (made more accessible via a powered trunk shelf)."

-Autoblog

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/03/01-infiniti-essence-press.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/03/02-infiniti-essence-press.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/03/03-infiniti-essence-press.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/03/04-infiniti-essence-press.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/03/39-infiniti-essence-press.jpg

There's even a vid.
Geneva 2009: Consider The Show Stopped - Infiniti rolls out its Essence on a grand scale (http://www.autoblog.com/2009/03/03/geneva-2009-consider-the-show-stopped-infiniti-rolls-out-its-e/)

[Howard92884]

Wow. That thing looks amazing/crazy. Some crazy body lines going on. 592Bhp, I'm guessing this is a prototype?

[exitspeed]

Wow. That thing looks amazing/crazy. Some crazy body lines going on. 592Bhp, I'm guessing this is a prototype?

It's a concept, yes.

But what is under all the show stopping sexiness is Infinti's new design language. The front fascia is just intoxicating. The rear is just as beautiful.

[enkei2k]

i would totally buy it...if the price is right of course.

[Kn1ves]

So is this the oft-rumored Infiniti's GT-R? or a 1-Series fighter (aka Nissan's 240sx replacement) or just purely a design exercise?

[Phlip]

Is masturbation a proper response to these images?

[exitspeed]

i would totally buy it...if the price is right of course.

So is this the oft-rumored Infiniti's GT-R? or a 1-Series fighter (aka Nissan's 240sx replacement) or just purely a design exercise?

Judging by the specs this is their new flagship coupe. Not thSX version of the Infinti and I don't think this is based off the GTR as the proportions are drastically different. This looks like a $100k + luxo coupe to compete with say an Aston Martin or Ferrari.

Is masturbation a proper response to these images?

Yes, I have....twice already.

[aznpoopy]

This looks like a $100k + luxo coupe to compete with say an Aston Martin or Ferrari.


agree. my first impression was someone took a db9 and made it really wavy.

[MrFixIt]

Wow. I'm speachless. That looks absolutely amazing. Screw the motor, put a KA in it, I'll buy it.

On a side note...
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/03/39-infiniti-essence-press.jpg
Road head is going to require some creativity.

[SimpleS14]

The powertrain does remind me of GT-R (twin turbo V6) and it's an interesting design language. I wonder if they will be able to pull it off on a production car. I can see a few elements making it into the next iteration of the M (i.e. headlights).

[Andrew @ 240sxMotoring]

I'm gonna have to agree with exitspeed on this one. The proportions to make it look more like a GT supercar.

[CrimsonRockett]

The interior is too much for me.

Overall, great, but the interior needs to be changed.(If it's ever even produced)

[Otto347]

I dont like where vehicle design is going. Call me old fashioned but I like old body style cars....

[Oilcover]

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_R1JLtqAJkEI/SaqOqyhYLqI/AAAAAAAAB9g/0UNRZ4aRC_g/s800/2010-mazda-rx7-7.jpg


+


http://concept-supercars.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/ferrari_concept_2008_2.jpg


= this car.

[Otto347]

^^^:rofl: agreed!

[Future240]

I am damn near speechless, I have been sitting here for three mins just starting at it

[Daniel.]

this car looks sexy as hell.

[LeftNutOfGowd]

I WOULD GET SOOOO MUCH POOOONANNIII in this car

[stiizy]

When does it drop how much and where do i sign???

I'll take one in Black thanks...

[BustedS13]

Is masturbation a proper response to these images?

don't do it dude, it's a trap. it's a (auto) tranny.

[Future240]

^I'm sure it will come as an manual as well.....right? maybe? hopefully?

[MrFixIt]

I WOULD GET SOOOO MUCH POOOONANNIII in this car

Shit. Even this guy could sling mad bitches with this thing.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_W5q2RoInqoU/SY9KFF0uyzI/AAAAAAAAAK4/nrdB-l7f5K0/s400/ugly_guy.jpg

[Flicktitty]

man that looks AWESOME! i like it.

[BustedS13]

^I'm sure it will come as an manual as well.....right? maybe? hopefully?

just like the GTR, right? :D

[Future240]

just like the GTR, right? :D

Ah shit............fucking semi automatic

[rms13]

that thing is straight up sexy and the numbers look bad ass. I'd ruin my financial situation to get that.

[DCP94]

i'd drive it even though its auto..it's still beautiful

[BustedS13]

i'd far rather have a real car. would you date the world's hottest retard?

[DCP94]

lol i didn't say that i would choose an auto over manual but since my options seem to be somewhat limited...Im just saying that its either auto or nothing..and i'd choose auto

[adrians_s13]

interior looks like a futuristic version of a mk4 supra...
exterior looks like a futuristic rx8

[BustedS13]

lol i didn't say that i would choose an auto over manual but since my options seem to be somewhat limited...Im just saying that its either auto or nothing..and i'd choose auto

there's like a million other cars in the world, you have your options. you don't have to drive the retard

[DCP94]

there's like a million other cars in the world, you have your options. you don't have to drive the retard

yea but i don't think this car will be in the "retard" section...and if it is im sure there will be many people that choose to drive that "retard" i just like the car, if you don't then you don't.. but im sure that if I could afford this car I would have another that would be a manual that i can drive whenever I want

[dorkidori_s13]

hey kids look...its a g37 with turbos lol ;)

nice to see that plastic mold actually made it to reality though

interior reminds me of a supra (especially the middle console)

deffinatly a bit different than what the current offerings from nissan are...thats for damn sure

[DCP94]

we are not fighting just discussing cars like grown men do lol

[drift freaq]

Ah shit............fucking CVT

Dude, if you don't know your transmission don't make dumb statements like the one you made above. The GTR Transmission is not a CVT. CVT stands for continuously variable transmission! The GTR Transmission is a double clutch paddle shift semi auto straight out of Formula one. Two completely different technology wise transmissions.


Now with that said, Hello Aston Martin,Ferrari,Bentley,McLaren etc.... Nissan/Infiniti called they want to own you with one of the of sexiest cars to ever come out of Japan. Man I am just going to put this on my desktop and have fun all day. LOL

Wow and last night I was saying one of the few cars I really wanted was a Ferrari F430 Scuderia and this thing comes along. Shit! LOL

[BustedS13]

yeah yeah, the gtr has a super FANCY automatic for super fancy girlie men.

i know it's the trend and the h pattern shifter and three pedals is going the way of the dinosaur. but it's bullshit.

[Gnnr]

This thing looks AWESOME! :D I can totally see this competing with the Maserati GranTurismo or Aston Martin DB9.

And for the last fucking time people need to stop comparing the paddle shifters in these high end cars to some lame tiptronic they tried in some sub-$100K car they drove once! WTF!

The paddle shifting in high end and exotic vehicles is nothing like you imagine and closer to what is used F1.

[BustedS13]

paddle shifters = left foot does nothing, right hand flips a paddle half the time = GIRLIE MAN RIDE

[Dutchmalmiss]

Wow this is very Aston Marton-esque as Dave mentioned. That's not a bad thing either. I'm in love so hard with this thing.

[Gnnr]

paddle shifters = left foot does nothing, right hand flips a paddle half the time = GIRLIE MAN RIDE

So I guess you wouldn't drive an F1 car if the opportunity where given to you. Question: How many high end vehicles (with an MSRP over $100K) have you driven that have paddle shifters?

If you're speaking from experience, then maybe you have a solid foundation on which to base your argument on.

If you're driving one of these cars on a track at their limit, having no clutch pedal is the last thought on your mind. For those lucky enough to blast one of these types of cars through The Nürburgring or something you know that its still a rush.

[BustedS13]

So I guess you wouldn't drive an F1 car if the opportunity where given to you. Question: How many high end vehicles (with an MSRP over $100K) have you driven that have paddle shifters?

If you're speaking from experience, then maybe you have a solid foundation on which to base your argument on.

If you're driving one of these cars on a track at their limit, having no clutch pedal is the last thought on your mind. For those lucky enough to blast one of these types of cars through The Nürburgring or something you know that its still a rush.

i have never driven any car with paddle shifters in my entire life. i have driven three cars over one hundred thousand dollars in value that had real transmissions. i have not driven an f1 car, but would if given the opportunity. none of this is relevant to the fact that the GTR comes with a glovebox stuffed with men's thongs.

[lflkajfj12123]

the whole point

is that some people actually enjoy using a clutch and shifting

its part of the driving experience

now in order to get a thrill with paddle shifters you have to be driving at highspeeds to keep your mind off how bad your man thong is riding up

[worangejuice]

never gonna happen................
will end up looking like this
http://www.edmunds.com/media/reviews/lists/ten_least_expensive_vehicles/01.daewoo.nubira.500.jpg

[Future240]

Dude, if you don't know your transmission don't make dumb statements like the one you made above. The GTR Transmission is not a CVT. CVT stands for continuously variable transmission! The GTR Transmission is a double clutch paddle shift semi auto straight out of Formula one. Two completely different technology wise transmissions.


I stand corrected:bow:

[exitspeed]

Guys, this car has made Zilvia history.

This is the first time that i think nearly EVERY SINGLE person that has commented has loved a new car!

[Headsick]

That thing is fuckin HOT! Slightly toned down, and a turbo 4 would make it one HELL of a successor to the sx.

[Antihero983]

i'd far rather have a real car. would you date the world's hottest retard?

yes. pics?

but yeah, THIS CAR IS OT LIKE FIIIIIIIIIIYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

however....it is not a 1987 Grand National, nor a 1969 Oldsmobile Hurst Olds with the white and gold color combo, nor is it a car from the pre 1960s era......so it's not the hottest car ever.

[Matej]

"Downsize the wheel wells brah. I don't want to have to buy 24" tires to drift on brah." -$$$

[JeremyR]

hmmmm

g37 motor with a TT setup, and an electric motor for in town cruising. car looks/sounds heavy. but it is a beauty.

too bad not many people will pay 100k+ for an infiniti.
this car seems to be more inline with the supercar that nissan should of made. something luxury AND exotic. like an aston martin, or a maserati.

[Daniel.]

That thing is fuckin HOT! Slightly toned down, and a turbo 4 would make it one HELL of a successor to the sx.

Too bad the car looks huge as fuck

[kingkilburn]

I love it! It's like a modern Shelby coupe.

[lflkajfj12123]

"Downsize the wheel wells brah. I don't want to have to buy 24" tires to drift on brah." -$$$

haha wow stock 22" wheels.....

[VROOOM]

yeah yeah, the gtr has a super FANCY automatic for super fancy girlie men.

i know it's the trend and the h pattern shifter and three pedals is going the way of the dinosaur. but it's bullshit.

DAMN, your only 24. you sound like one of those old men who complains about those "new fangled" computers and such.

the auto trans shift faster thats why more companies are using them. i could picture you at the track. well he used an auto girlie man trans so who cares if he won, i used my left leg, im cooler.

[exitspeed]

No no no, it is definitely NOT a SX successor. Unless the SX is being replaced with a 6 figure Luxury GT.

And, yes people, this thing is gonna be heavy, BUT so are a lot of exotic cars. A DBS V12 weighs over 3700 lbs but it's still hot as fuck.

Also, Nissan has, more than anyone else in the industry IMO, been able to overcome weight with engineering. The GTR SHOULD NOT be as fast or perform anywhere as well as it does...but IT DOES. Period. Who cares about weight if it outperforms cars weighing hundreds of pounds less. This is also a hybrid. So it'll more then likely outperform cars in it's class AND get gas mileage unheard of in it's class.

THIS IS the car Honda wants the NSX to be and Toyota wants the FT-HS to be...but they obviously haven't figured it out yet.

[deolio]

i would loan my first born son to michael jackson...

[Gnnr]

none of this is relevant to the fact that the GTR comes with a glovebox stuffed with men's thongs.

But does it matter, really? In the grand scheme of things I don't think anyone cares. The GTR is a limited production car, and every single one built will be sold. Just like the DB9 and every other high end exotic using paddle shifters. There will still be manual sports cars for the common folk to buy, so people need to stop freaking out. If Nissan started offering the GTR with a clutch pedal, demand will stay practically the same. The change in demand will be insignificant. All that would happen is more people would add it to their imaginary shopping list because they can't actually afford it anyways.

But I'm getting way off topic here.

The Essence will do well against the market its slotted for. Its a bold step for Infiniti and that's the most important part. They grew some cojones and threw some crazy mad supercar out there. Finally some escitement!

[ESmorz]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y36/AvrilH8er13/ballin.jpg

BALLLLLLLLIN

:keke:

[ryguy]

And for the last fucking time people need to stop comparing the paddle shifters in these high end cars to some lame tiptronic they tried in some sub-$100K car they drove once! WTF!

The paddle shifting in high end and exotic vehicles is nothing like you imagine and closer to what is used F1.

Jeremy Clarkson likes a traditional gearbox better than flappy paddles, and I'm pretty sure he's driven enough cars to know. Who gives a fuck if it can shift in a billionth of a second? I enjoy having to use the clutch and shifter.

Guys, this car has made Zilvia history.

This is the first time that i think nearly EVERY SINGLE person that has commented has loved a new car!

I think it's ugly as fuck. It's way too busy. I love the DB9 because its sleek and simple, yet is still damn sexy. This looks like a mess, and a Mazda mess at that.

[Bubbles]

would you date the world's hottest retard?


Why.....did she say something?

[Gnnr]

Jeremy Clarkson likes a traditional gearbox better than flappy paddles, and I'm pretty sure he's driven enough cars to know. Who gives a fuck if it can shift in a billionth of a second? I enjoy having to use the clutch and shifter.

I'm not arguing that its better or arguing people's prefrences for one or the other. What I'm saying is don't compare it to an auto or some low end paddle shifter or tiptronic, its apples to oranges. Two, its stupid to whine about some high end exotic you probably can't afford....especially since the cars within your reach are still being offered in manual. :rolleyes:

[SexPanda]

i'd far rather have a real car. would you date the world's hottest retard?

yes? wait...

yes. As long as she isnt full retard.

anyhow, that cars amazing. I doubt it will ever be a production model, but if that hints at infiniti's new styling, im all down for it.

[ALTRNTV]

yes. As long as she isnt full retard.
"No one goes full retard, thought you knew that?"

[Koopa Troopa]

I think it looks like the Ace and Gary mobile..
http://www.automoblog.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/ambig_gay_penis_mobile.jpg

But yeah, not interested. No proper B pillar, roof made of glass.... Heavy as fuck and chassis flex like a mother fucker. Sorry, not for me.

[drift freaq]

Jeremy Clarkson likes a traditional gearbox better than flappy paddles, and I'm pretty sure he's driven enough cars to know.
.

LOL ya that's why on Top Gear he professed extreme love for the Ferrari F430 last night. With its paddle shifters and launch control! In fact he said it was one of the nicest cars he had driven. Extreme praise. So I guess he is a hypocrite too.

Like someone else said until you fucks who complain about paddle shifters actually have driven a Supercar equipped with one of these transmissions? You speak out of pure ignorance and should shut the fuck up in the criticism.

Its just like criticizing the President. If you did not vote then you should not open your mouth.

Oh and busteds13 you would shit in your pants driving one of these cars. So shut the fuck up,with your girlie man comments.

Getting tired of you singing the same old song and dance. Especially when you talk out your ass because you really don't now.

[BustedS13]

LOL ya that's why on Top Gear he professed extreme love for the Ferrari F430 last night. With its paddle shifters and launch control! In fact he said it was one of the nicest cars he had driven. Extreme praise. So I guess he is a hypocrite too.

Like someone else said until you fucks who complain about paddle shifters actually have driven a Supercar equipped with one of these transmissions? You speak out of pure ignorance and should shut the fuck up in the criticism.

Its just like criticizing the President. If you did not vote then you should not open your mouth.

Oh and busteds13 you would shit in your pants driving one of these cars. So shut the fuck up,with your ignorant redneck bigoted girlie man comments.

Getting tired of you singing the same old song and dance. Especially when you talk out your ass because you really don't now.

speaking of song and dance, did you catch America's Best Dance Crew the other night?

[ESmorz]

Oh and busteds13 you would shit in your pants driving one of these cars. So shut the fuck up,with your ignorant redneck bigoted girlie man comments.

Woah, Woah.

Mess with the tiger and you get teeth.

Mess with the raptor and you get the claws.

Here is something to ponder. Since I would dare to say not even you could "afford" this and still live like you do. Do you have any more say in praising it and it's super awesome gearbox than someone talking it down?

[BustedS13]

http://i42.tinypic.com/30ug0ib.jpg

[Koopa Troopa]

LOL ya that's why on Top Gear he professed extreme love for the Ferrari F430 last night. With its paddle shifters and launch control! In fact he said it was one of the nicest cars he had driven. Extreme praise. So I guess he is a hypocrite too.

Like someone else said until you fucks who complain about paddle shifters actually have driven a Supercar equipped with one of these transmissions? You speak out of pure ignorance and should shut the fuck up in the criticism.



Only people who can't drive worth a shit defend cars like the new GTR.

[Phlip]

I'm here for the Zilvia Debate Club meeting.

[Koopa Troopa]

You're in the wrong thread. We're the Zilvia Mathletes.

[VROOOM]

You're in the wrong thread. We're the Zilvia Mathletes.

fellow Mathlete did you know yesterday was square root day.

[Future240]

Like someone else said until you fucks who complain about paddle shifters actually have driven a Supercar equipped with one of these transmissions? You speak out of pure ignorance and should shut the fuck up in the criticism.

My question to that is, how can he be talking out of his ass, if he is speaking an opinion? I doubt you have ever driven a car sitting on 30" rims. Yet I bet you would make jokes about it, and say how you don't like it, and defend your stance with how it is stupid and blah blah.

What busted is doing with the GTR is no different. All he is saying is that he wants a traditional manual tranny, not an auto one. Regardless of whether it cvt, what the hell ever the GTR's is, or chinese babies that come out of the glove box and shift it for you.

It is obvious you like the GTR and other cars like it, but damn, flying down someone's throat and insulting them for voiced their opinion is just uncalled for.

Oh and complaining about the president when you didnt vote is much different, seeing as in that situation you could have made a difference, saying what you don't like about a certain car, well that is just a matter of opinion.

[Koopa Troopa]

GTR is fucking whack. If I want to take it top speed down I-10, flip off a cop, drop it into second and then drift the fuck out of it. That's my business as I paid $80,000 for the POS. Not Nissan's black box to tell me I can't. Fuck you Nissan.

[reaxion]

holy shit that thing is amazing...body is looking insane!

[Koopa Troopa]

This car will take the path of the BMW 7 series that had that supercharged V12 in it and sucked monkey balls.

[exitspeed]

THIS IS NOT A GTR DEBATE THREAD.

This car is the shit.

[Koopa Troopa]

THIS IS NOT A GTR DEBATE THREAD.

This car is the shit.


Till you have to turn and the lack of a b pillar and solid roof come into play.

[Headsick]

Till you have to turn and the lack of a b pillar and solid roof come into play.
So what you're saying is that because there's no (visible) b-pillar, the car can't turn? Wow, I guess all these companies are selling verts to be parked in the garage for people to show off to their friends? Last time I checked the 350z roadster outhandles plenty of cars that do have roofs. Not to mention other roofless, well handling cars such as the s2000, miata, etc.

That being said, most of us realize that this is a CONCEPT, which IF it makes it to production, would have a roof and b-pillar, because as stupid as they seem sometimes, Nissan wouldn't release a car of this magnitude that wasn't at least driveable.

Oh, btw, if you actually look at the pics, you can see the b-pillar, as well as the roof support.

[Gnnr]

Yes, this is a concept. Notice the lack of side mirrors and door handle.

[ronmcdon]

I think it's ugly as fuck. It's way too busy. I love the DB9 because its sleek and simple, yet is still damn sexy. This looks like a mess, and a Mazda mess at that.

Yeah I was thinking the same thing. It was too busy looking inside out in a awkward sort of way. Reminded me of the RX-8 in a way. Great analysis.

With the DSG like tranny, you have to figure this was probably built to be a luxury tourer, marketed towards a certain demographic. It's not entirely inappropriate, and it might not be cost effective to give this car a 6-spd manual.

The only transmission I've ever driven with something close to this is the Audi A3's dual clutch DSG, and works surprisingly well. shifts are super smooth, and with the sport mode (higher shift points maybe?), the computer is well enough tuned that even paddle downshifts aren't necessary. I could live with it. While I still prefer a conventional manual today, some of the dual clutch type automatics are a huge leap ahead of auto trannies just a few yrs back.

[BustedS13]

i don't like paddle shifters

[drift freaq]

http://i42.tinypic.com/30ug0ib.jpg

lol Mr bold has to resort to physical threats wow real mature.

Only people who can't drive worth a shit defend cars like the new GTR.

Says the ass living in Okinawa. Who thinks he is JDM tyte and quite often speaks without true knowledge of people, or checking all his facts.

In other words Koopa, once again you have no idea and once again, you talk like the ass you are.


Yes I insulted your dumb ass and yes I posted it, because yes you made another completely clueless statement.

For supposedly calling yourself a mathlete, you sure didn't crunch your numbers, before making the whack statement you did.

As far as others go, fact is Busteds13 quite often does talk out his ass. Maybe he was speaking his opinion, but when you speak opinion with out knowledge, that's ignorance and talking with ignorance is equal to talking out your ass.

Something, Koopa does all the time.

Now, if you fucks, can get off your, I hate the GTR bullshit. This is about the Essence, not the GTR.

[BustedS13]

lol Mr bold has to resort to physical threats wow real mature.

http://www.funnycatsite.com/pictures/Friskie_Business.jpg

now can you please stop ruining this thread? please pm me if you can't accept that i disagree with you about something

[Phlip]

Hey everyone, let's keep arguing!
Nobody deserves the last word!

[kingkilburn]

Till you have to turn and the lack of a b pillar and solid roof come into play.

What about the Zonda F roadster?

http://www.diseno-art.com/images/Pagani-Zonda-F-Roadster-side.jpg

It is said to have a stiffer chassis than the hard top while also being lighter.

(It lapped TopGear's track faster than the Veyron)

[BustedS13]

Hey everyone, let's keep arguing!
Nobody deserves the last word!

can we at least shift the topic then >.<

http://blogs.edmunds.com/roadtests/assets_c/2008/10/separated-thumb-555x717.jpg

[VROOOM]

and just like the GTR, that cobalt would murder most cars on this site at the track.

[drift freaq]

http://www.funnycatsite.com/pictures/Friskie_Business.jpg

now can you please stop ruining this thread? please pm me if you can't accept that i disagree with you about something

Dude you and Koopa are the shitheads ruining this thread. Not I. You guys made your typical asshat comments and the thread went south! Stop trying to play Mr Honorable when phlip calls you on the carpet.


Oh and by the way, to further clarify your comments Busted. When you speak an opinion, without firsthand knowledge, its ignorance. Ignorance spoken, is talking out ones ass.

You can say, I dislike the idea or the concept. Then, you are speaking correctly and not talking out your ass.

When you say I dislike, hate, etc ....... insert whatever here, without actually having experience its bullshit i.e. talking out your ass.

Especially, when you don't clarify, its the idea or conceot you don't like.

If you do not have actual working first hand knowledge of something, you cannot possibly hate it because you have no experience with it. So if you say you hate it? Well, your talking out your ass. Something, you and koopa do on a regular basis.

This is where both of you, get yourselves into trouble in these debates. Its a matter of simple clarification, which would make your statements more correct.

Oh, and I see you went back and clarified your comment a bit, but at the same time disregarded the differences in transmissions.

[ronmcdon]

i don't like paddle shifters

I don't like paddle shifters too.

paddle-shifters and dual clutch automatics are totally different things.

think of paddle-shifters as an alternative to the automatic shift knob, as thats all it is.
you can throw paddle shifters on a conventional auto, a tiptronic-like auto, a cvt, and whatever else type of auto tranny there is.
In most (if not all) cases, you don't need to use the paddle-shifters at all.

Dual clutch automatic is an alternative to a conventional manual.
You don't need paddle shifters to operate it, even if the car coincidentally comes with both devices.
On the DSG-equipped A3 I drove, I just used the auto-shifter to up/down shift as needed.
It's almost like driving with one of those Ikeya Formula shifters, but without the clutch.

[SochBAT]

I don't like the body styling, even if it is a concept.

It reminds me of Megatron from the TF movie.

[ryguy]

I don't like the body styling, even if it is a concept.

It reminds me of Megatron from the TF movie.

Speaking of Transformers, it reminds me of this.
http://www.cars.com/features/autoshows/2009/chicago/coverage/images/chevrolet_stingray/chevrolet_stingray_0_430.jpg

It's the Stingray concept and it will be Sideswipe in Transformers 2

[mrmephistopheles]

knock off the bickering